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Blizzard developing new, next-gen MMO?! Ideas?

 Guys if you check out Blizzard's Employment Opportunities page at http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/ you will see many high-end positions they are seeking to fill with icons saying TOP SECRET and the description saying things like "for our next-gen MMO". Since I highly doubt this is a joke, and since they aren't just speculating about --possible-- future projects, this would lead us to assume they are actually in the process of planning a brand new MMO!!

Now Warcraft is only 4 years old with a new expansion coming out soon. However, once the WOTLK runs it's course.. Blizzard will effectively tie up all the loose ends from the series we played. At that point, they will have to make stuff up which I doubt they will do. Also, they wouldn't develop a whole new WoW MMO, since they could just upgrade the current one graphically in an expansion. So we may have a BRAND NEW MMO on our hands! My guess is, Diablo. I wouldn't bet they are making anything new and a Starcraft MMO seems farfetched considering SC2 hasn't hit beta yet.

What do you guys think? Would a Diablo MMO be any good and different compared to WoW (aside from the OBVIOUS). Tell me your thoughts 

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  • PrinnySquadPrinnySquad Member Posts: 90

    I'd place cash on WoW re-skinned as Starcraft.

    You may be correct that it's Diablo, but that'd have to be my second choice. I think they are more likely to do Starcraft first, and since their current product is netting them a hefty profit, I doubt they'll change formula. If they did Diablo, they'd have to choose between classic Diablo format and Warcraft format for gameplay. If they went with World of Warcraft gameplay (and I think they would), they risk irritating hardcore Diablo fans. With Starcraft, they don't have to worry about that.

    Besides, with Starcraft, you have a classic fantasy and sci-fi locked game for the people. Win-win for them all over.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775

    Originally posted by PrinnySquad


    I'd place cash on WoW re-skinned as Starcraft.
    You may be correct that it's Diablo, but that'd have to be my second choice. I think they are more likely to do Starcraft first, and since their current product is netting them a hefty profit, I doubt they'll change formula. If they did Diablo, they'd have to choose between classic Diablo format and Warcraft format for gameplay. If they went with World of Warcraft gameplay (and I think they would), they risk irritating hardcore Diablo fans. With Starcraft, they don't have to worry about that.
    Besides, with Starcraft, you have a classic fantasy and sci-fi locked game for the people. Win-win for them all over.

    That is exactly what I think.

    Diablo, while different, is still a fantasy RPG and it will split their fan base. There is no win for that.

    There is a lack of mainstream sci-fi MMORPG out there. Tabula Rasa flopped. Eve Online, which good, is niche because of hardcore PvP. Jumpgate Revolution is not out yet and it is a action MMORPG with PvP.

    So there is a market need for a casual oriented sci-fi based MMORPG. Starcraft has a huge following so it would be more natural to use that as the backdrop.

    If they reskin WOW as starcraft, I will play. I just hope they add a spacecraft element to it.

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    If it is fun in PvE-solo/grouping for someone with poor reflex/coordination, I will consider it.

     

    If it is like WoW and requires you to raid...or if it is PvP centric...or if it is action centric...I have no choice but to ignore a game which would displease me.

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • Pappy13Pappy13 Member Posts: 2,138

    You're a little late with the news as this has been rumored since around April of last year and Blizzard has all but confirmed it since then.  Also Blizzard has hinted that it won't be based on any of their previous games, so you can rule out World of Diablo, World of Warcraft II and World of Starcraft I think.

    My own opinion is that it will be a science fiction MMO.  There's a big opportunity for someone to come in with a Sci-Fi and take the whole market and don't you know that Blizzard would just love to own both the best selling Fantasy and Sci-Fi MMO's on the market.  Remember that they have recently teamed with Activision as well so I'm sure there's been a lot of ideas bounced around.  I really think Blizzard would like to show everyone they can do something without Diablo, Warcraft or Starcraft in the title.

    http://powet.tv/2007/12/14/blizzard-announces-new-mmo-not-with-wow/

     

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  • jayheld90jayheld90 Member UncommonPosts: 1,726
    Originally posted by pineapples


     Guys if you check out Blizzard's Employment Opportunities page at http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/ you will see many high-end positions they are seeking to fill with icons saying TOP SECRET and the description saying things like "for our next-gen MMO". Since I highly doubt this is a joke, and since they aren't just speculating about --possible-- future projects, this would lead us to assume they are actually in the process of planning a brand new MMO!!
    Now Warcraft is only 4 years old with a new expansion coming out soon. However, once the WOTLK runs it's course.. Blizzard will effectively tie up all the loose ends from the series we played. At that point, they will have to make stuff up which I doubt they will do. Also, they wouldn't develop a whole new WoW MMO, since they could just upgrade the current one graphically in an expansion. So we may have a BRAND NEW MMO on our hands! My guess is, Diablo. I wouldn't bet they are making anything new and a Starcraft MMO seems farfetched considering SC2 hasn't hit beta yet.
    What do you guys think? Would a Diablo MMO be any good and different compared to WoW (aside from the OBVIOUS). Tell me your thoughts 

    i am willing to bet it is starcraft.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775

    Originally posted by Anofalye


    If it is fun in PvE-solo/grouping for someone with poor reflex/coordination, I will consider it.
     
    If it is like WoW and requires you to raid...or if it is PvP centric...or if it is action centric...I have no choice but to ignore a game which would displease me.

    Hmm .. WOW does NOT require you to raid. You can just enjoy questing leveling up and stop playing at L70. Even at 70, you can do heroic instances for a while to get all the epics. Raiding is just ONE aspect of the end-game. I don't plan on doing it but that does not mean I cannot enjoy the other content.

    Back to the original thread. I am willing to bet it is starcraft too. It fits so many things so well.

  • pineapplespineapples Member Posts: 84
    Originally posted by Pappy13


    You're a little late with the news as this has been rumored since around April of last year and Blizzard has all but confirmed it since then.  Also Blizzard has hinted that it won't be based on any of their previous games, so you can rule out World of Diablo, World of Warcraft II and World of Starcraft I think.
    My own opinion is that it will be a science fiction MMO.  There's a big opportunity for someone to come in with a Sci-Fi and take the whole market and don't you know that Blizzard would just love to own both the best selling Fantasy and Sci-Fi MMO's on the market.  Remember that they have recently teamed with Activision as well so I'm sure there's been a lot of ideas bounced around.  I really think Blizzard would like to show everyone they can do something without Diablo, Warcraft or Starcraft in the title.
    http://powet.tv/2007/12/14/blizzard-announces-new-mmo-not-with-wow/
     

    Apparently the VP of design has been in contact with George Lucas, someone commented on the article but I don't believe it's a Star Wars or any lucas franchise MMO. I do hope it is Sci-Fi, they would need to make something much different then WoW and really Sci-fi or modern-fantasy is the only way to go. I am a bit nervous though, Blizzard has changed since the days it brilliantly came up with Starcraft, Warcraft and Diablo.. I would wonder if they could create a whole new franchise with the same caliber. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

  • galad2003galad2003 Member Posts: 167

    It really could be anything. It takes 3-5 years to make one of these games and Blizzard never rushes anything. So by that time WoW will be hitting the end of its life cycle and they won't be competeing with their own title. Perfect timing for them to strike with a new game. So they could do fantasy or sci-fi or any other genre they could think of.  This all assumes that WoW isn't the number one game in 5 years, which I may be wrong considering the trend of lousy MMo's coming out  the past few years.  But I pray for all our sakes we still aren't playing WoW by then.

  • miscsmiscs Member Posts: 9

    Awesome it's about time blizzard made another MMO their is only so much expansion WOW can have before all the veterans just quit.

     

  • SonofSethSonofSeth Member UncommonPosts: 1,884

    When I first heard this I was all for Starcraft and wanted it very badly... but after having some time to think about it, I think making a new Sci-Fi IP would be alot better, for me anyway.

    What I would like it to be the most is a Blizzardisation of StarTrek IP with a universe of that size and freedom to be part of almost any of those factions... "Starfleet" "Klingons"(so called space orcs) "Romulans" those syndicate guys... basicly, it would be as much RVR  as it would also be faction oriented and much much more       I want it, want it bad.

    But ok, whatever it is, as long it's sci-fi, please please please 

     

    I short, I want something TOTALY AWESOME!!

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  • Pappy13Pappy13 Member Posts: 2,138
    Originally posted by galad2003


    It takes 3-5 years to make one of these games and Blizzard never rushes anything.



    This is true, but remember 2 things.  First, we are not sure how long Blizz has been working on the project already.  This rumor started appearing almost 1 year ago and they may have been working on it even longer than that.  Secondly, this is Blizzards's second MMO and there should be a lot of infrastructure in place already from WoW.  So realistically I think you could be looking at around 2 to 3 years development time from now, so not really as far off as it may seem.  My guess is that  WotLK will happen later this year,  Starcraft II will be released sometime in 2009 and this new MMO maybe 2010.  Will we still be plaing WoW then?  Well I'm sure there will be still be people playing, but you're right that there will be plenty of room for another Blizzard MMO by then.

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  • pineapplespineapples Member Posts: 84
    Originally posted by SonofSeth


    When I first heard this I was all for Starcraft and wanted it very badly... but after having some time to think about it, I think making a new Sci-Fi IP would be alot better, for me anyway.
    What I would like it to be the most is a Blizzardisation of StarTrek IP with a universe of that size and freedom to be part of almost any of those factions... "Starfleet" "Klingons"(so called space orcs) "Romulans" those syndicate guys... basicly, it would be as much RVR  as it would also be faction oriented and much much more       I want it, want it bad.
    But ok, whatever it is, as long it's sci-fi, please please please 
     
    I short, I want something TOTALY AWESOME!!

    I think dumbing the immersive, complex, philisophical and 40+ year unique sci-fi genius that is Star Trek to a simple game of space orcs, space elves and space humans in a WoW-like system would make the world explode in anger. I would torch Blizzard before they ever touch something like Star Trek.. so no, please god no. 

  • JarredStoneJarredStone Member Posts: 29

    Another MMO set in the Warcraft universe? Unlikely, Blizzard's new mmo would need a different universe to work with, Fantasy's getting boring. Starcraft? After thinking a little, I just don't see how that would work out successfully, they got a rather limited assortment of units/classes/whatever to work with to develop an entire full fledged mmo.

    Diablo universe? Probably, giving the fact that there's plenty of lore and crap to work with, but I don't know how you could "spice it up" to make a big hit mmo.

    I'd much rather see an entirely new universe, but Blizzard ain't known for originality in the mmo industry if you ask me.

  • SonofSethSonofSeth Member UncommonPosts: 1,884

     

    Originally posted by pineapples


    I think dumbing the immersive, complex, philisophical and 40+ year unique sci-fi genius that is Star Trek to a simple game of space orcs, space elves and space humans in a WoW-like system would make the world explode in anger. I would torch Blizzard before they ever touch something like Star Trek.. so no, please god no. 

     

    Aren't you a litle late with that coment? There is already so many seriously crappy StarTrek games that you should be up to your neck in ashes!

    Blizzardisation could only mean good things.

    And NO, I'm not talking about WoW in space, I'm just using comparisment as means of expressing an opinion, you know, opinions, things that so regulary get taken out of context.

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  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    WoW 2 is my guess.

    Fantasy sells, and they want to capitalise on their existing fanbase.

  • HousamHousam Member Posts: 1,460

    blizzaed said there next mmo wont be set WoW2.....or any other book, movie, game...its going to be completly made up

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

     

    Originally posted by nariusseldon


     
    Originally posted by Anofalye


    If it is fun in PvE-solo/grouping for someone with poor reflex/coordination, I will consider it.
     
    If it is like WoW and requires you to raid...or if it is PvP centric...or if it is action centric...I have no choice but to ignore a game which would displease me.

     

    Hmm .. WOW does NOT require you to raid. You can just enjoy questing leveling up and stop playing at L70. Even at 70, you can do heroic instances for a while to get all the epics. Raiding is just ONE aspect of the end-game. I don't plan on doing it but that does not mean I cannot enjoy the other content.

    Back to the original thread. I am willing to bet it is starcraft too. It fits so many things so well.



    This is like saying life doesn't require you to work.  Maybe in your childhood.  But eventually, it require you to.

     

     

    See, making it at the END of the path doesn't make it anyless of a requirement.

     

    If my progression is better in raiding at ANY point, then it require me to raid in other to progress.  My journey is determined by the path of progression (I am that simple).  In WoW, if you want to progress and get ALL the best stuff, then you have to raid.  On day 1, I dream of been the BEST grouper.  Break that dream and lose my interest, totally.

     

    Unacceptable.  The: You don't have, you can stop playing and/or be lame argument is getting me infuriated.  Just stop using such poor arguments, I have the choice to be weaker, to quit or to do it.  This is NOT a choice.

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411

    I do not think a Diablo game is the next on the block.  Due to one fact that many people protest the demonic aspects of the game.  I remember back when Diablo came out and some christian groups protested and said their kids would not play it.  Safe money for a big hit with no flack would be starcraft.

  • betatester2betatester2 Member Posts: 3

    Blizzard team always knows how to surprise the players, i think it will be Diablo, but i can not be so sure.......

    Hopefully it will be another great mmo!

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775



    Unacceptable.  The: You don't have, you can stop playing and/or be lame argument is getting me infuriated.  Just stop using such poor arguments, I have the choice to be weaker, to quit or to do it.  This is NOT a choice.

    LOL .. you just named THREE choices and said "that is not a choice". Either you don't understand the simple English word "choice" or you are too weak-minded to really choose.

    There is no one forcing to see all the content of the game.

    In fact, a LARGE percentage of WOW players never raid. It seems to be they were exercising that CHOICE.

    And what you are going to do about this "unacceptable" situation? Quit MMORPG? That is a choice too.

     

  • BlackWatchBlackWatch Member UncommonPosts: 972

    I think Blizzard would want to lead us through the lore of a WoW 2 prior to launch.  The way (in my opinion) to do that would be to launch Warcraft 4 (and expansion).  But really, that would  need to be a fairly large game and would need to provide enough storyline to really warrant a WoW 2. 

    I'm not saying Blizzard couldn't launch WoW 2 without the lead-in from Warcraft... but I think it would help them out a lot.

    On that note... now having Starcraft 2 to consider, the amount of lore and the size of the fanbase... it seems like a great idea. 

    With Starcraft's popularity in the Asian countries, I think the potential for large sales figures really becomes too attractive to deny. 

    I'm not discounting the popularity of Diablo or other IP's... but I'd like to see how it measures up from a player base standpoint with Starcraft (world-wide). 

    I do love WoW, honestly.   I don't, however, see a lot to do 'end-game' other than RAID's.   The most attractive thing to me is 'play another class' or 'play on the other faction'.  I could just as easily go 'play as Zerg, Protoss, or Terran'? 

    I would like to see a lot of WoW pulled into Starcraft, but I'd also like to see Blizzard advance the MMO and the technologies involved. 

    Someone needs to take that next step and really launch a 'next gen MMO'.  Since the Star Trek game may or may not happen, I don't look to them to actually take that step and boldly go where no MMO has gone before.

     

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  • jinxitjinxit Member UncommonPosts: 854

    I still think there making a Starcraft mmo with Starcraft ghost as the backdrop of it, yup starcraft ghost was shelved a while back but blizzard did a little interview not long ago detailing the titles that have been canceled and ghost wasnt one of them, the interviewer asked why starcraft ghost wasnt in that list..because he expected it to be and the blizzard rep said they havent given up on that old girl yet......

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775

    Originally posted by BlackWatch


    I think Blizzard would want to lead us through the lore of a WoW 2 prior to launch.  The way (in my opinion) to do that would be to launch Warcraft 4 (and expansion).  But really, that would  need to be a fairly large game and would need to provide enough storyline to really warrant a WoW 2. 
    I'm not saying Blizzard couldn't launch WoW 2 without the lead-in from Warcraft... but I think it would help them out a lot.
    On that note... now having Starcraft 2 to consider, the amount of lore and the size of the fanbase... it seems like a great idea. 
    With Starcraft's popularity in the Asian countries, I think the potential for large sales figures really becomes too attractive to deny. 
    I'm not discounting the popularity of Diablo or other IP's... but I'd like to see how it measures up from a player base standpoint with Starcraft (world-wide). 
    I do love WoW, honestly.   I don't, however, see a lot to do 'end-game' other than RAID's.   The most attractive thing to me is 'play another class' or 'play on the other faction'.  I could just as easily go 'play as Zerg, Protoss, or Terran'? 
    I would like to see a lot of WoW pulled into Starcraft, but I'd also like to see Blizzard advance the MMO and the technologies involved. 
    Someone needs to take that next step and really launch a 'next gen MMO'.  Since the Star Trek game may or may not happen, I don't look to them to actually take that step and boldly go where no MMO has gone before.
     

    I agreed completely. I think one area that  can be innovate and added on top of the already great wow system is space ship-to-space ship combat. It will be nice to add a layer of tactical space ship combat (like Eve) on top of a char based ground game.

  • ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096

    Shatner did a WoW commercial... next stop isCaptain Kirk reporting to Blizzard HQ for the official announcement of ST:O.   I believe CBS got burned badly by P.E. and the only way they can save face now is give the IP to Blizzard and let Blizzard make a real MMOG out of it.  CBS has executives have stated they want and are dedicated to seeing  ST:O become a reality.   Blizzard has the time, resources, and attitude to make ST:O a success. 

    Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

    "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  • GuintuGuintu Member UncommonPosts: 320
    Originally posted by nariusseldon


     
    Originally posted by BlackWatch


    I think Blizzard would want to lead us through the lore of a WoW 2 prior to launch.  The way (in my opinion) to do that would be to launch Warcraft 4 (and expansion).  But really, that would  need to be a fairly large game and would need to provide enough storyline to really warrant a WoW 2. 
    I'm not saying Blizzard couldn't launch WoW 2 without the lead-in from Warcraft... but I think it would help them out a lot.
    On that note... now having Starcraft 2 to consider, the amount of lore and the size of the fanbase... it seems like a great idea. 
    With Starcraft's popularity in the Asian countries, I think the potential for large sales figures really becomes too attractive to deny. 
    I'm not discounting the popularity of Diablo or other IP's... but I'd like to see how it measures up from a player base standpoint with Starcraft (world-wide). 
    I do love WoW, honestly.   I don't, however, see a lot to do 'end-game' other than RAID's.   The most attractive thing to me is 'play another class' or 'play on the other faction'.  I could just as easily go 'play as Zerg, Protoss, or Terran'? 
    I would like to see a lot of WoW pulled into Starcraft, but I'd also like to see Blizzard advance the MMO and the technologies involved. 
    Someone needs to take that next step and really launch a 'next gen MMO'.  Since the Star Trek game may or may not happen, I don't look to them to actually take that step and boldly go where no MMO has gone before.
     

     

    I agreed completely. I think one area that  can be innovate and added on top of the already great wow system is space ship-to-space ship combat. It will be nice to add a layer of tactical space ship combat (like Eve) on top of a char based ground game.

    Look at it this way.  Warcraft 3 come out in 2002 and then WoW came out in 2004.  They were working on WoW while they were working on Warcraft 3 and no one knew that Wow was coming out at that time.  After Warcraft 3 came out, about 10-12 months later is when they started talking about WoW.  I think thats a trend.  They're going to bring out Starcraft 2 and 6-10 months later they'll say their next MMO is Starcraft online and it'll come out late 2009-early to mid 2010.

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