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xbox 360, doesn't it make more sence
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I know most readers on here are hardcore pc only ppl but logically, doesn't it make pretty good sence to have this on console(360). Shouldn't more ppl want this on a console; and want to play it on one?
My biggest reason for this is because of the money spent building a new system and having to pay for it all. Thousands compared to 300$ for a 360. I understand that the xbox graphics aren't as good as brand new high-end computers, however i would say that it's better then 80% of the average persons pc. In addition comparing prices completely compensates for the better graphics in pc's out there.
I have a 360 and would never buy it for just one game, however ppl spend 4 x that for a pc and this one game, age of conan.
I feel that when made for the 360 they would be able to design it better knowing that every single console runs the exact same way and has the same components, only slight variation being connections.
If you really wanted age of conan doesn't buying a 360 seem to be the cheapest way to get amazing graphics.
The only reason it seems they may steer towards the pc is one: MMO traditionaly are on them (however i think they could transition into the 360 well now because so many ppl that own one have xbox live, and lets face it, everyone loves Oblivion). It would do well on a console, plus the numerous ppl buying new pc's could just get a 360 (why wouldn't they it's cheaper like i said).
the second reason however is that i'm sure Age of Conan and Funcom get massive amounts of money from pc corporations (like Nvidia) because they know that ppl will being buying new components. However i would imagine that microsoft (bill gates) could pump out plently of money to support the game. Plus like i stated earlier, lots of ppl would by a new 360; helping microsoft.
I know the game eventually will release on console i just wonder why more hasn't been put into it earlier on. Seems easier for a company to build a game meant for a gaming only system, but i could be wrong on that.
Any thoughts as to why one wouldn't rather just buy a 360 and play on that, knowing they wouldn't have to spend as much and play with great graphcis?
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Correct me if im wrong, but if u were a devout PC gamer and u wanted the best of the best to play AoC, would you not already have a PC so that you could be a devout PC gamer? So in order to have to buy a new PC just to play a game on PC because u were a PC gamer you would already need a PC to begin with?
Which means the same if u were an Xbox gamer. you would already need an Xbox in order to prefer using it.
but i guess that also means if u have neither and ur not a gamer because u dont have a PC or an Xbox you wouldnt care about AoC and possibly not even know about it? Because i dunno about you but ive only read about it on my PC.
but you do have a point IF for some strange reason a person who doesnt own an Xbox or a PC decides that AoC is the best thing since sliced bread then buying the Xbox would be cheaper.
but im not convinced anyone would buy a PC for one game. an Xbox however is a different matter i know plenty people who bought an Xbox for Halo 3.
Ill summarize AoC will have to be on a par with Halo 3 for people to specifically buy an Xbox for it. And very few people will buy a PC just to play AoC due to the Xbox being much cheaper.
Bah but what do i know about anything?
/Psilo
Developing on both PC and 360 at the same time will probably only dumben down the PC version (unless there are separate servers).
360? No thnx!
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I agree with you completely. Not to mention it would be one of the only true MMO's on a console. Meaning even people that have never even played an MMO would probably buy it . I wasn't even thinking about buying AoC, but it looks good and I am now slightly interested in it. I probably won't buy it for PC because it just looks like it wouldn't run on my computer and if it can I know I'm going to have huge lag outs in big battles. But if it were to say come out on the xbox....I would probably get it.
Ofc i forget to add my own opinion.
yeh having it on 360 will suck. hopefully we will be isolated from them with their dumbed down game and their lack of commitment to their gaming system.
I mean ive spent probably 1500-2000 pounds ($3000-4000) on my PC over the years. not to mention many many hours of tweaking and researching the best parts... All 360 owner has is 20mins worth of waiting in line at a shop and 200quids worth of equipment. The commitment to gaming just isnt there.
/Psilo
mmo`s on console you got to be kidding right...
thats like welcome to the suck.
Some things are just better or on PC live with it and if you cant the upgrade
Here is my opinion mmos or any game in my opinion would be better off on consoles for this simple reason they would be easier to develop for and would be less bugs on release. When a game is made for pc they have to test it with multiple drivers,video cards all the different configurations of PC's. With a console they would only have to worry with 2 versions ps3 and 360. My only need would to be able to connect to my pc monitor and use my mouse and keyboard .
This game is coming out on the 360, just at a later date.
Most hardcore pc players update their rigs on a regular basis, not just for a single game. These past six months have seen a leap in technological requirements in games, which is actually pretty normal. One thing you must realize is that a PC running todays games on the highest settings is comaparable to gaming on the next generation of consoles after the 360 and ps3.
Whats the biggest thing in consoles right now? HDTV. PC gamers have been playing at resolutions greater than 1080p years before these consoles came out.
Despite being designed for gaming, gamepads make a very poor interface device for mmo games. It's much, much easier to aim with a mouse, and you can map an entire keyboard worth of keys.
Also, pc gamers generally have a larger bankroll than console gamers. The cost of upgrading a box when the time comes is a necessity to people like me, fun, and not a chore in any way. I enjoy tearing into my machine and running benchmarks after dropping in a new cpu or gfx card. I'm not saying console gamers are poor, rather that hardcore pc gamers need to have the extra money simply to fuel their hardware habits.
This also leads to the fact that the pc gaming community is normally much older than the console community, and most pc gamers prefer to game with mature people. (WoW notwithstanding. If you can play the game on grandmas computer, all the other kiddies can too.)
Besides that, your logic is flawed. Most pc's could be upgraded to run AoC with the same graphical clarity as the 360 for less cost. You do not need to build a completely new pc, case, monitor and all. All most pc's need is a new mobo, cpu, video card and maybe a stick of ram. My old PC for example, which I gave to my little brother, cost me over 4k when I built it. Yet, to upgrade it enough so that it could play crysis at medium settings it only cost $200. That was a mobo, cpu, and video card. This stuff isn't as expensive as most people think. Sure, my brother doesn't have all settings maxed in Crysis, but with all settings at half mast, that game still displays graphics beyond what the 360 is capable of. When the time comes, he will most likely be able to max out AoC.
If planning to upgrade your computer, don't pretend to be hardcore and then whine about the cost. Instead, buy components in your price range and enjoy gaming on the superior gaming platform.
I refuse to play an MMO on a console specifically because of control. On the XBox 360 controller there are, what? 15 buttons? With those buttons you have to be able to move, attack, call upon all your skills, and open all your windows. You could handle the windows easily with a button to bring up a "viewer" and then traverse screens with the triggers. The same system could be implemented for the skills (i.e. elder scrolls). I just don't see it being very effective in fast paced combat, or PvP. It's too much to have to spasmodically press a trigger to get to your finisher when you could press a single button on the keyboard.
Note: I know almost nothing about AoC. This is just my personal opinion on porting any MMO to a console.
games do have whats called low graphics settings...
you dont need a $5000 machine to play the game...you need a $5000 machine to play it on the best graphics. you need a $500 machine to play the game.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
ok i definitly agree with it being difficult to port the contoller scheme, however that is do-able and with time that is not that big of an obstacle, Oblivion is extremely easy when you get the hand of it, adding many more components would be tought but plenty do-able.
Who ever said 500$ to play it, I don't think so.
I know comp graphics are better, but my point is on average a 360 is better then a regular pc. Numerous ppl are making related threads about having to buy and inprove news pc's. my only statement was that it would be eaiser to get a 360 instead. I don't believe that 90% of the ppl find it as awesome as that one guy, to spend buttloads of money to update that system (i.e i don't believe all ppl waiting for this game have a high power pc and are ready to play with no graphic problems).
Please dont comment if you are a gung-ho person who believes MMO's on pc only, thats just stupid. Consoles are fine if it works. The company makes more money and we get better game. It's that simple. The only thing i agree on is that i wouldn't want the game dumbed down at all cause ppl get pissed about that. Just make a similar but a little different game for the 360 and have console ppl play together until they can have it not dumbed down. Simple
When AoC comes out for the 360 I really hope that they don't merge the pc gamers with the console gamers. That would just be stupid, its obvious that there is no way a console gamer will compete with a pc gamer when it comes to fps style controls. I don't see any problem with a game being on a console though, it would be easier to develop and cheaper to get your hands on. Whoever said that its cheap to play a new MMO, you were simply talking about the upgrading cost of your already 4K computer. I've never spent anywhere near that amount on my computer and I'm pretty sure the average PC gamer doesn't either. Maybe I'm not "hardcore" enough, but I really don't have that kind of money. College is kinda expensive...
AoC is tailor made for a console MMO, by all accounts it's a light MMO in terms of gameplay, a controller will be the more natural way to play. The so far simplistic system being placed in the game will ensure the game will be a major success on the 360. Personally I am going to wait for the 360 version. That way I don't have to worry about hardware issues with my PC, know that the game will run 100%, and the controls will feel natural for the combat they intend.
AoC = X360 Goodenss!
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Then you're going to be waiting a VERY long time. The 360 version is not only unconfirmed, but the date they have for release is just there for show. If you read what the developers are saying, then you would know that the 360 version is not only totally undeveloped, but that they're not even sure it's feasible.
Since the game is still in closed beta, there's no way you could know that the game is tailor made for a console, much less that it's "simplistic". If anything all the evidence is to the contrary.
From what I can tell, you're just pulling information out of nowhere. But seriously, have fun waiting a year plus for the console version while the rest of us are enjoying the game in the mean time.
PC's fuel innovation.
Consoles breed stagnation.
A new console is released every three to five years, so at best a console player will be playing games that have graphics and capabilities that are 3 years out of date by the time he thinks of digging into his wallet for the next machine to hit the shelves.
The PC is constantly evolving and improving with the software houses having to push the envelope in graphics and game design to keep ahead of the game.
Quite simply if you are the type of person that doesn't mind development grinding to a standstill for 3-5 years at a time then sure, buy a console. If on the other hand you want to play with up to the minute graphics and design buy a PC. Consoles are the worst thing to ever hit the gaming industry for exactly the reasons you put forward as positives. Software houses don't need to program and design for multiple configurations, it's cheaper and easier to design for consoles so what the hell, chuck out the tired old engine every few months, put the feet up and count the cash. I don't know about you but IMO if every developer took this easy approach the game industry would quickly die out from boredom. I'm no Nostradamus but to be honest over the years gaming has followed a curve with sometimes consoles being very popular as they are now and at other times the PC being on top of the pile. I predict that the console market will soon start to falter a little and the PC will once again be in the ascendancy, after all, the PC already is easily able to outstrip the latest next gen consoles in performance and graphics, by how much will the PC be ahead when Sony are ready to release the PS4 or MS the next version of the X-Box?
Then you're going to be waiting a VERY long time. The 360 version is not only unconfirmed, but the date they have for release is just there for show. If you read what the developers are saying, then you would know that the 360 version is not only totally undeveloped, but that they're not even sure it's feasible.
Since the game is still in closed beta, there's no way you could know that the game is tailor made for a console, much less that it's "simplistic". If anything all the evidence is to the contrary.
From what I can tell, you're just pulling information out of nowhere. But seriously, have fun waiting a year plus for the console version while the rest of us are enjoying the game in the mean time.
Whatever.Arcade style combat. "Aimed attacks and dodging!"
Smaller world, instanced world zones...
They don't want to talk about the 360 version so as to not hurt their PC sales on the front end. Mostly because it's easier to put it out on the PC.
You play this on your PC, while you are beta testing the game for us 360 players, and paying for it, we'll thank you greatly. AoC is going to be a nominal PC hit, and a massive 360 success.
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Then you're going to be waiting a VERY long time. The 360 version is not only unconfirmed, but the date they have for release is just there for show. If you read what the developers are saying, then you would know that the 360 version is not only totally undeveloped, but that they're not even sure it's feasible.
Since the game is still in closed beta, there's no way you could know that the game is tailor made for a console, much less that it's "simplistic". If anything all the evidence is to the contrary.
From what I can tell, you're just pulling information out of nowhere. But seriously, have fun waiting a year plus for the console version while the rest of us are enjoying the game in the mean time.
Whatever.Arcade style combat. "Aimed attacks and dodging!"
Smaller world, instanced world zones...
They don't want to talk about the 360 version so as to not hurt their PC sales on the front end. Mostly because it's easier to put it out on the PC.
You play this on your PC, while you are beta testing the game for us 360 players, and paying for it, we'll thank you greatly. AoC is going to be a nominal PC hit, and a massive 360 success.
If that is true AoC will be dead within 6 months since PC players simply outnumber 360 players by far.
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Then you're going to be waiting a VERY long time. The 360 version is not only unconfirmed, but the date they have for release is just there for show. If you read what the developers are saying, then you would know that the 360 version is not only totally undeveloped, but that they're not even sure it's feasible.
Since the game is still in closed beta, there's no way you could know that the game is tailor made for a console, much less that it's "simplistic". If anything all the evidence is to the contrary.
From what I can tell, you're just pulling information out of nowhere. But seriously, have fun waiting a year plus for the console version while the rest of us are enjoying the game in the mean time.
Whatever.Arcade style combat. "Aimed attacks and dodging!"
Smaller world, instanced world zones...
They don't want to talk about the 360 version so as to not hurt their PC sales on the front end. Mostly because it's easier to put it out on the PC.
You play this on your PC, while you are beta testing the game for us 360 players, and paying for it, we'll thank you greatly. AoC is going to be a nominal PC hit, and a massive 360 success.
No they need about 250k PC players and they are set.If that is true AoC will be dead within 6 months since PC players simply outnumber 360 players by far.
But here's the kicker, how many PC users have rigs powerful enough to run this game?
How many Xbox360 players do..
I'm think the Xbox won that right there... don't you?
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Then you're going to be waiting a VERY long time. The 360 version is not only unconfirmed, but the date they have for release is just there for show. If you read what the developers are saying, then you would know that the 360 version is not only totally undeveloped, but that they're not even sure it's feasible.
Since the game is still in closed beta, there's no way you could know that the game is tailor made for a console, much less that it's "simplistic". If anything all the evidence is to the contrary.
From what I can tell, you're just pulling information out of nowhere. But seriously, have fun waiting a year plus for the console version while the rest of us are enjoying the game in the mean time.
Whatever.Arcade style combat. "Aimed attacks and dodging!"
Smaller world, instanced world zones...
They don't want to talk about the 360 version so as to not hurt their PC sales on the front end. Mostly because it's easier to put it out on the PC.
You play this on your PC, while you are beta testing the game for us 360 players, and paying for it, we'll thank you greatly. AoC is going to be a nominal PC hit, and a massive 360 success.
No they need about 250k PC players and they are set.If that is true AoC will be dead within 6 months since PC players simply outnumber 360 players by far.
But here's the kicker, how many PC users have rigs powerful enough to run this game?
How many Xbox360 players do..
I'm think the Xbox won that right there... don't you?
Eh, nope. No argument needed really since we all know about the Obilvion comparison.
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Then you're going to be waiting a VERY long time. The 360 version is not only unconfirmed, but the date they have for release is just there for show. If you read what the developers are saying, then you would know that the 360 version is not only totally undeveloped, but that they're not even sure it's feasible.
Since the game is still in closed beta, there's no way you could know that the game is tailor made for a console, much less that it's "simplistic". If anything all the evidence is to the contrary.
From what I can tell, you're just pulling information out of nowhere. But seriously, have fun waiting a year plus for the console version while the rest of us are enjoying the game in the mean time.
Whatever.Arcade style combat. "Aimed attacks and dodging!"
Smaller world, instanced world zones...
They don't want to talk about the 360 version so as to not hurt their PC sales on the front end. Mostly because it's easier to put it out on the PC.
You play this on your PC, while you are beta testing the game for us 360 players, and paying for it, we'll thank you greatly. AoC is going to be a nominal PC hit, and a massive 360 success.
No they need about 250k PC players and they are set.If that is true AoC will be dead within 6 months since PC players simply outnumber 360 players by far.
But here's the kicker, how many PC users have rigs powerful enough to run this game?
How many Xbox360 players do..
I'm think the Xbox won that right there... don't you?
Eh, nope. No argument needed really since we all know about the Obilvion comparison.
Oblivion was much better on the 360
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And yes, you can build a pc stronger than an xbox 360 for nearly the same cost. From scratch.
Agreed
Then you're going to be waiting a VERY long time. The 360 version is not only unconfirmed, but the date they have for release is just there for show. If you read what the developers are saying, then you would know that the 360 version is not only totally undeveloped, but that they're not even sure it's feasible.
Since the game is still in closed beta, there's no way you could know that the game is tailor made for a console, much less that it's "simplistic". If anything all the evidence is to the contrary.
From what I can tell, you're just pulling information out of nowhere. But seriously, have fun waiting a year plus for the console version while the rest of us are enjoying the game in the mean time.
Your just a tard. Are you serious about what you said? where did you get your info from.
a) it is confirmed, and for like 3 years now
b)it does have a rough date, it's been (for the last 3 years) roughly one year after the pc version is released, there working on this first and formost
c) and yes it is "tailer-made", they have said that in interviews, many. They say it is more consol fighting based, and that it is more emmersive this way, not point and click like tradition mmo's.
d) yes it is simplisic, it is generally 5 direction, and you combo how you see fit. sure there extra thing but overall it's use of five directions
e) how do you cock someone off for waiting a year just cause they can't afford a 4k pc to run the game. He's right for wanting to run it 100% on something, and college is expensive.
Lastly their are xbox controllers at there office; since the beginning in almost all interviews they've said they build the game in a way with consoles aways in the back of their mind.
You will be able to play this game on 3-4 yr old PC's with a shader model 2 GPU and it will be fine. Promise you.
You've clearly not been keeping up with the game's progress. Attacks are aimed in Melee only in so far as you have to be close enough to hit someone. Otherwise, you're going to hit. This does not apply to spell casters nor ranged weapons. Kinda hard to "dodge" those.
If you want to wait who knows how long for a 360 version that may never actually see the light of day, that's your business. While you're fighting your way through Tortage, I'll be sieging Battle Keeps with my guild.
Predict whatever you want. While your predicting the death of the personal computer, I'll be playing games and having fun.
If you want someone to answer you seriously, it might be better to not come off sounding like a 13 year old. I guess we we're wrong in predicting that the "M" rating would bring a more mature player base, huh
A) It's not confirmed, just announced. If you read what the devs are saying, they've put almost no work into the 360 version, being far too busy trying to get the game ready for the May launch. It will probably be released, but not for much, much longer after the PC version.
C) You don't know what you're talking about, but some of us DO, but I can't say why. Just think about it for a minute. You're right though, it's not point and click. But that's not to say that there's not a hotbar with icons that you have to click. Look at some of the videos a bit closer.
D) Refer to point "C" above
E) You don't need a 4k PC to run this game. Stop with the hyperbole. And for the record, there are plenty of 360 games that have bugs and need patching. You're not "guaranteed" a perfect gaming experience free from lag and bugs just because it's on a console.
If college is so expensive, why would you have an X-Box 360? At least you can justify a computer to yourself on the grounds that you can use it for more than playing games. But I digress.
If you want someone to answer you seriously, it might be better to not come off sounding like a 13 year old. I guess we we're wrong in predicting that the "M" rating would bring a more mature player base, huh
A) It's not confirmed, just announced. If you read what the devs are saying, they've put almost no work into the 360 version, being far too busy trying to get the game ready for the May launch. It will probably be released, but not for much, much longer after the PC version.
C) You don't know what you're talking about, but some of us DO, but I can't say why. Just think about it for a minute. You're right though, it's not point and click. But that's not to say that there's not a hotbar with icons that you have to click. Look at some of the videos a bit closer.
D) Refer to point "C" above
E) You don't need a 4k PC to run this game. Stop with the hyperbole. And for the record, there are plenty of 360 games that have bugs and need patching. You're not "guaranteed" a perfect gaming experience free from lag and bugs just because it's on a console.
If college is so expensive, why would you have an X-Box 360? At least you can justify a computer to yourself on the grounds that you can use it for more than playing games. But I digress.
Even though your a douchebag for cocking me off w/ a smiley face i still agree with, and for the most part you didn't contradict anything i said.
a) your right it's not confirmed but announced, reason being that a random unforseen problem could arise and then...no 360 version, but there still confirmed on trying to make one
b) are you serious? speculation date, rought date. it's the same thing. It might be 10 month, a year, 14 months. There speculating that if it is release it will be in this time frame, same thing.
c) obviously your in the beta, so ya i agree there extra hotkeys and such, but programmers could find a way to transfer that to a gamepad, i'm sure they could.
e) no one garantees a 100% free lag anything. Just saying it's much more likely to have fewer on consoles because all are the same. Idk what "hyberbole" means anyway. (I meant close to max setting because 360 will be close to the max settings, not just run it). Thats why i said 4k.
Lastly i do agree with you cause we generally said the same thing, you just had to say it in your own words.
360 are only 300$, of course someone in collage could get one. xmas, bday, pay for it. pc's are much more. I'd assume one couldn't get a pc to run Aoc close to max, for 300$.