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How bliz could improve the Druid.

Wolfs.RainWolfs.Rain Member Posts: 45


Well i have a sugestion about the druid that could make it cooler than it already is.

My idea is that since druids are the ones who are suppose to protect nature and preserve it , why not use nature against they're foes to damage them?::::40::::::40::::::40::

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  • LoStCaUz3LoStCaUz3 Member Posts: 1,154
    Like what? Elaborate...

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  • Wolfs.RainWolfs.Rain Member Posts: 45

    Give the druid nature powers.....thats what i mean


  • Wolfs.RainWolfs.Rain Member Posts: 45

    Besides having the power to shapeshift they could have powers like lightning strike or blizzard that use mana, so "nature powers".::::15::::::18::::::15::

  • Wolfs.RainWolfs.Rain Member Posts: 45

    I dont know how much more clear i could get so ..........


  • LoStCaUz3LoStCaUz3 Member Posts: 1,154

    Ok, I think other classes already have those spells. I was thinking more along the lines of having a summon that made a tree come to life and start pummeling any enemies. Or like dirt and rocks could fly from the ground and trap people like in prison cages or something. That would be pretty awesome.

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  • SheepGoBahSheepGoBah Member Posts: 63

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  • heinrichoheinricho Member Posts: 252

    they use nature and arcane magic.  I would like to see the crow form instead of the cheetah form.  I'd rather fly!!!  I'd also like to see more of the spells the WC3 druids used.  but mark of the wild should be good enough I guess.

    http://www.sniderz.com/html/modules.php?name=Spells

    here's a list of spells  (hit search!)


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  • gaeria84gaeria84 Member Posts: 105

    Nature magic (lightning, ice)? The shaman and mage already has it. The druid is seem fine to me so far. Blizzard havent fully fine-tune the druid class yet to perfection. So dont worry there's plenty of time before the final release. Btw, I think all the skills suit the druid perfectly. :)

    For more info, visit

    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid.shtml

    *anticipating WoW*

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  • bethel9bethel9 Member Posts: 262

    I think druids need to be able to turn their opponent into stone!!! Kind of like madusa's eye, or something of that nature. I know what your thinking, how did he come up with this? I watch too much tv, its as simple as that.

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  • Axel_karefAxel_karef Member Posts: 279

    Have they fixed the shapeshifted dmg for druids? Last I heard it was something like while shapeshifted, druid's dps has NOTHING to do with the weapon he has equipped. Is this a problem? Alot of druids in beta say that they do far better in combat when they just stay in normal form. I've heard some say that they only go into other forms when they want to show off to their friends. I think Blizzard should try and make the shapeshifting more useful to the druids. Because from what i've heard about the bear and cat forms, it just hinders their combat effectiveness.

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  • bethel9bethel9 Member Posts: 262



    Originally posted by Axel_karef

    Have they fixed the shapeshifted dmg for druids? Last I heard it was something like while shapeshifted, druid's dps has NOTHING to do with the weapon he has equipped. Is this a problem? Alot of druids in beta say that they do far better in combat when they just stay in normal form. I've heard some say that they only go into other forms when they want to show off to their friends. I think Blizzard should try and make the shapeshifting more useful to the druids. Because from what i've heard about the bear and cat forms, it just hinders their combat effectiveness.
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    Yes I get what your saying, but what about the druids being able to turn their opponents into stone? That not cool enouph for youimageimage.
     

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  • Axel_karefAxel_karef Member Posts: 279

    lol, ok, all that I said. AND....the ability to turn people into stone yea that would be cool.

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  • darkredd27darkredd27 Member Posts: 7

    Nature powers wouldn't be like Blizzard or Lightning... they'd be more like stones, leaves, trees, etc... But yeah, I wish the Druids had more spells and a greater supply of mana. And, yeah, would it be awesome for a druid to turn someone to stone. It could be a new root spell!

    As for the forms... I've heard that their power is already enough, it's just hard to use them seeing as the mana cost to shapeshift is so great. If they were less mana, everyone would be using them a whole lot more. You can tell that Blizzard is paying attention to people's desire that druids be more unique b/c in the recent patch, they made it so that the Druid is the only one with man tracking. That is a very useful skill and I really appreciate them doing that.

  • ZafarZafar Member Posts: 94

    Bah, more power to the Druid? Nah, I myself plan on a tauren druid main and would wish no such thing.  Firstoff, the druids are fine how they are, anything more and I belive they would become to powerful and therofore to popular and then I would no longer persist with my choice as one for a main.  They already have powers of nature, kinda.  They have arcanish type spells and buffs from nature.  You must realize that they are not supposed to be a big caster class, therefore they don't need or deserve the ability to cast big spells like the mage and shaman. 

     As for the bit on the shapeshifting I heard a rumor about the weapon dmg not transfering but I also heard that I was, ONLY A RUMOR.  Im sure if it actually does exist blizzard with have it fixed in no time because they have stated that it actually with transfer.  And anyone who does not use thier form wisely, aka just transing for friends is sad.  I belive that those chars do so only because they have chosen not to take the effor nessisary to follow out on the ability branch of their chars to make that transformation as valueable as possible.

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  • darkredd27darkredd27 Member Posts: 7

    I guess yur right, though I didn't mean I want a bunch of awesome spells like the mage, I just mean that it'd be nice to have maybe one AoE spell or sumthing. But I mean, how can you not want a lower mana cost to shapeshift? Currently, even Bliz thinks that the Druid needs some more work. I really think that it's close to being where it should be though. But like you, there is no way I want it to be overpowered b/c I like playing classes in the minority.

    About the forms' stats being based on your weapon, I feel that without this, the forms don't have the capability to advance with you. Once you reach the cap, sure enough you'll continue to find better weapons but without yur forms gaining their attack power, they just stay where they are and in turn become useless. 

  • heinrichoheinricho Member Posts: 252

    read the forums on WoW and you'll see three main complaints about the druid, I will excerpt

    1. Let us regen mana while in animal form.
    Perhaps not at full capacity, but something signficant. In this way we could switch out of bear/cat form to heal our group members and ourselves.

    2. Lower the mana cost of shapeshifting.
    The best way to implement this change is to remove or reduce the scaling mana cost for animal forms. For example, I think at level 10 bear costs 100 mana and takes about 50% of the mana bar to cast. But at level 14 bear form costs 144 mana, so it still takes about about 49% of the mana bar. My suggestion is to have bear form cost 100 mana for all levels or for the mana cost to scale less painfully.


    I think that perhaps implementing both changes would be redundent.
    I can see how the first solution alone might be enough to fix the underlying druid problem.
    Nonetheless, at least one of these solutions MUST be implemented in order for druid to become a unique and viable class.

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    While the above suggestions are NECESSARY fixes. I also suggested in an earlier post a change which would greatly improve the uniqueness of the druid. My suggestion was to:

    3. Replace the stamina and rage bars with a mana bar (or as one person called it a "nature bar").
    Have our cat and bear abilities based on mana. Implement refresh counters on our cat abilities to simulate rogue stamina regen. This will set druid apart as its own unique class and remove the sampler-esque quality of the class. Although this last suggestion is not necessary, I hope blizzard will consider it seriously.


    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-druid&T=1261&P=1&ReplyCount=115#post1261

    then look at the dozen pages of people agreeing.

     


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  • darkredd27darkredd27 Member Posts: 7

    I have seen those and kept up with that thread ever since it began. I definitely do not approve of the whole nature bar idea though. I do agree that shapshifting needs a much smaller mana cost and there should be mana regen while in animal form (even if slowed to a fraction of the regular regen speed). Also, bear form needs some unique skill that no other class has (like the cat form has "track humanoid"). But yeah, I basically love the Druid almost the way it is. It needs a few bugs fixed and some problems addressed but it's almost there.

    Bliz has confirmed they'll be addressing the Druid in the near future so I'm not worried a bit.

  • ZafarZafar Member Posts: 94

    In WC3 and TFT when the druids shapeshift into bear form they regain mana slower.  I don't understand why they would allow for an increased mana regan.  Im sure that by the time I ever get to play *sobs quitely* that the druid will be okay.

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  • jubbincakejubbincake Member Posts: 134
    I think iut would be cool if the druids wanted their mana increase or anything while they are in a form. They would have to hunt down an NPC that can train you to specailize in the way of that form. You would go through a series of tests/quests and each quest would have a reward that buffs your druid for that form. It should be like this for everyclass, this way it isnt just based on your level. But in order to get better at PvP ect. you would actually have to quest. If i havn't said this before you should also be able to unlock specail ablilities through these quests, liek new attacks and such.

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