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15 Million credits in the free month :: The story
Loona35
Member Posts: 55
This story is about how i made 15 million credits and mastered a lotta professions in just 1 month, the free one..
Ok, i kicked off with 1 million credits starting money. You'll need that for a good kick of your start, but every experienced player knows that 1 million isnt much. So please, don't come up with arguments like "oooh but you were already a extreme zillionair rich person.
The 1 million i invested in the following things:
- a composite armor @ 80%/79% and 70% for the minor stats he armored
- medium harversters and a fusion plant
- best weapons you can get for whatever skill you want
.. you better join a huge guild since when you are in one youll get extreme large discounts. (.. and you don't have to do anything, maybe join their city but you can leave that 1 day after . they wont notice anyway 
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Now we make a lotta money every week with the harversters and we've the right equipment to grind our skill. I prefer to go for commando first, since you can grind that one in just 12 hours. How? ill explain later.. 
First i tell you how the big money is to be made.. its called Farming, but ofcourse you must not do it yourself. Just go to Mos Eisly, were al newbies start, and look around for any player with cheap clothes. Their are always plenty of them, but watch you dont ask the ones with a green droid near them coz they are not yet familiar with the keys etc. and theyll just start asking how do i shoot and how do i walk etc.
Ok, so you must find the ones with names like: novice brawler etc.
Go to them, and ask them if they want to earn 15k in just 1 hour! Believe me, they all want that! Now you've them in your power, you can let them do anything. Really anything, when i got bored of playing i started Deathblowing them for 10k ... Ok here is a list of things i've let them to do for me. I've had about 25 to 30 farmers and have most of them collect all these things:
- collect a full backpack of lightsabers (the ancient ones) .. buy 100k sell 80k PER SABER
- collect the krayt dragon skull.. buy 25k sell 250k
- collect the valarian stuff.. buy 30k and kept them all for my museum
- collect the Sean painting... buy @ 5k and sold 18 @ 650k!!
etc. etc. you can let them do any mission actually 
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This will take about 1-2 hours recruiting in the Mos Eisly and 1 hour collecting... Then ofcourse selling, that will take about 10 minutes per painting etc.
When i sold that much paintings i thought, hey! Why dont i open a huge museum with a shop inside. So i did, and now even more players came to me and bought stuff i ripped off from newbies.
and here are the pictures of the museum which i've built in just 3,5 weeks
[img]http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum4.jpg[/img]
.. as you see it has everything inside. Its fully blue lighted with glowing orbs and lytus artifacts. It has 14 krayt skulls inside and ofcourse any rare thing you can think off. ANd the vendors stocked with over 500 items, all rare quest stuff!
ok enough about the money making stuff, i think you all get the point now. Its to easy.
i also had some skills, i masterd commando in just 12 hours. How? Just buy the best possible armor and weapons, get buffed and start killing tortons. They give extreme much xp while you can flame them in 1 shot. They have huge resistance to almost everything, but not to fire. Try it yourself, 12 hours is actually pretty much youll notice.
To end this story ill post you some + and - about swg
First the +
- great graphics both technical as scenery stuff
- nice community, very mature
- good idea about skill tree
- extreme many professions to do
now the -
- ZERO roleplaying
- Over crowded cities with everyone shouting to sell or get trained something.
- Even more death cities with huge buildings but no one around
- mounts which wear off in riding just 10km
- No space!?!? (yet...)
- Grinding is extreme easy
- Money making is like i explained extreme easy
- no teamplay, you're just on your own
- couple useless professions and couple overpowered ones
My final conclusion to this game:
Its a fun game to play but when you get rich or powerfull.. it ends. Its up to you how fast youll get rich and powerfull. I did in 1 month, stole my own playing pleasure.
![http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum1.jpg[/img]](http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum1.jpg[/img]){kind=link}
![http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum2.jpg[/img]](http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum2.jpg[/img]){kind=link}
![http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum3.jpg[/img]](http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum3.jpg[/img]){kind=link}
![http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum4.jpg[/img]](http://members.chello.nl/~r.dijstelbloem/museum4.jpg[/img]){kind=link}
Comments
While I admire your entrepanuermanship, I loathe your type of player who takes advantage of new players. There are people like you in any game it seems, only looking out for themselves at the expense of others. While I can understand a reasonable "commission" on items since the newer folks have no idea what they are worth, your example clearly shows you exploited them to no end...and it is actions like yours that causes many new players to quit mmorpg's once they realize they've been ripped off for millions of credits (light sabre example among others).
Yes, you could argue you were roleplaying a trader, but your greed shines through in your post, and in RL, you would be hunted down after commiting fraud like that
... hmmm...you didn't give your in-game name...perhaps hiding fromt he bounty hunters?
While I agree with the majority of your + and -, we'll just have to agree to disagree on whether it is right or wrong to take advantage of others....
I agree its actually wrong to rip off new players. But as you said yourself, it comes with being a trader... besides that, how many times you hear people get ripped off in real life by car-traders etc.? ... not to talk about prices of modern clothing for example.
.. and above all, would that player have known how to get those items if i wasn't there to give him the directions? Probally he would have, like all others, just been hacking and slashing womprats around Bestine. But now he owns quite a lotta money and he finished some missions which were way more fun then the normal ones.
So i think its a bit of a win win situation. But my post wasnt meant to start a discussion about if its wrong or not to rip off. I opened it to show everyone how easy and boring it is to gain much power in both money and fighting skill, in SWG.
Being a jedi is useless, being extreme rich is pretty useless, being overpowered with masterfull skills is useles..
its all just useless...
"Probably the saddest thing that you will ever see is a mosquito sucking on a mummy, forget it little friend."
--Jack Handey
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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You react like all those other rich guys in the game... but you miss the real point i wanted to make clear about SWG.
What i wanted to make clear? I want to tell you all that SWG is pretty pointless when you've reached a certain lvl of skills and money. Ofcourse you can invest your time in PA's etc., as you give as a example. But, since the community has zero roleplaying and everyone is busy with getting richer and grinding skills that is very hard. (Read: almost impossible) ... and you must agree, really almost everyone is busy with it. No one is roleplaying, not even the entertainers, they're all just AFK grinding.
.. ofcourse i don't play anymore, one of the main reasons i wanted to make such amount of money is coz i sold it all on Ebay later. ʹve had a free game, 2 months of free playing and 15 Euro extra money. But i don't want a discussion about this.
Anyways, i think you're pretty blind if you don't agree with me that SWG has nothing to offer to rich and skilled players. That doesnt matter ofcourse, but since you get rich and skilled in just 1 month or less i think its a awefully bad game. (@ that point ofcourse, since it has also a lotta +'s!)
Ok so this in story in short:
I want a MMORPG to offer me the following things:
- Roleplaying
- Always something to do with my skills and money
ok, as you see i think it misses point 1 big time. But you say not. If you have fun with AFK grinders, if you wanna group up in Coronet and then see how no one says anything except from Do the matriachs first!..... i dont see that as roleplaying. Anyways, you think its not missing, thats fine.
Point 2 is missing, and you really must agree with that. If you dont, lolz, then youre pretty blind. Since i want both points to be good, and i miss this major point, the game in my opion lacks a lotta fun.
PS: The argument i had the money is stupid. I could also just do some quests like Sean's en the endor painting and then sell those. That would have taken me only 1 hour and i would then have the same amount of starting money. .. and don't take it personally but you really sound like those other veteran players. All very jalous that they didnt had such a nice museum and made such amount of money in their first month. One veteran player even said this museum was his hahahaha and some mates of him supported him in that. Very sad ...
If i could change the topic title is should be: How to make 15 million bugs outta 1 million and at the same time get top skilled and set up a fully blue lighted museum with vendors stocked with over 500 items and almost every rare item double from 2 up to 100 times.
Oh! And before you start saying its all up to me to make roleplaying fun..
partialy it is, but for the biggest part its up to Sony to create a game which is roleplaying friendly. What i mean is, they must create a game that way it forces everyone to roleplay and forces everyone not to grind etc.
They failed on that in my opion. I am not trying to roleplay in death cities or the very lively city of coronet where everyone is AFK shouting about their shops. Yeehah!
What can Sony do to help roleplaying? Force people to roleplay? You can't force people to do anything in a game like this. To do so means you lose customers.
A roleplaying server? Then you have to deal with elitist roleplayers who report you if you don't roleplay as hardcore as they do. And all the other servers would be like regular servers on every other game, people grinding away to get L33T L00T and be the best.
You say there is zero roleplay, then you've never tried out Chimaera, Valcyn, Starstider, or one of the other servers where the players acctually have roleplaying communities. These communities thrive and grow, both thanks to and inspite of some of the things Sony has done.
And as for your skills and money...
This game was not made for the power gamer. You want a game made for them, try Lineage 2.
This game was made for the casual gamer. People who have a few hours a day to play. These people don't amass a huge amount of wealth or master every profession, but they still have fun. Power gamers usually burn out pretty quick because they master everything and beat every dungeon and have everything very fast. They don't enjoy the game, they grind it trying to be the best. Look how much money I have, look how many badges I have, look how many noobs I took advantage of, Look how many people I beat in PvP.
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Star Wars: Galaxies - Ibra Olasi (Valcyn Server)
Games Tried:
Everquest (not a power gamer)
Earth and Beyond (kinda fun, kinda boring)
Planetside (rather play Counter-Strike)
Lineage 2 (see Everquest above, plus too many PKers and Bots)
Guild Wars [E3 trial] (Not too bad from what I saw, nothing very new though)
Eve Online (somewhat fun, somewhat repetetive)
Waiting For: something good
Games Tried: SWTOR, Star Trek Online, EQ, EQ2, Earth and Beyond, Planetside, Lineage 2, Eve Online, WoW, City of Heroes, City of Villians, Auto Assault, Fallen Earth
Star Wars: Galaxies - Ibra Olasi (Valcyn Server) [Dead, screw you SOE]
In SWG i experienced no roleplaying, but yes everyone was very friendly, helpfull and mature. Therefor i had a lotta fun with everyone and i acted the same as them to other players. I helped them out etc. its fun... but serious roleplaying? Characters who act as the should? Nah.. never found them on any MMORPG yet, only on Live RPG's. Therefor SWG isnt worse then any other, but it isnt better either. The discussion about the roleplaying part has ended here for me, since roleplaying has such a large meaning and its meaning can also differ extreme much from player to player. I think we better agree on this part that its to personal to argue about.
Ok then to the other point i mentioned. I want a game to be cool for both casual as hardcore gamer. It should to provide fun for any player. I played about 3-4 hours a day, and if i have seen everything in a month.
What you say is: SWG indeed doesnt provide fun to players who have reached the max, except from roleplaying.
You get my point? The only thing to do when you reach certain level is to roleplay (Which i still think isnt much fun in SWG, but dont talk about LA2.. its far worse)
I think that is very sad and it would have been a better game if it had more to do for veteran or hardcore player who has reaced the top. i could have played slower but at some point i would have reached the status of veteran and i would have maxed everything out... then i still would have the same problem as i have now as a hardcore gamer. I only did it quicker then you guys.
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how a company should solve this problem? No idea! haha
I thikn SWG is doing a much better job then Lineage 2. But they still fail big time if you ask me. I don't get it why you fight on me with the argument how to solve it.
ROFL SWG is mean't for the casual gamer.....
Yet they introduced the hologrind, afk play and the macro...
Yea right
Pan
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*sigh*
POST in the offical forums at the official site for the specific server you are on. AFK people do not post in forums LOL! You can also try the server forums at stratics.com
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1) Stop comparing it with other games. I never did that! The only thing you're doing now is using false arguments (read some books if you don't know what false arguments really are, coz i am not gonna explain/discuss it. It are just technicaly wrong arguments. Sorry)
2) You look pretty frustrated, if you really are, calm down coz its seriously not worth it
for the rest of your arguments, i think we've a yes vs a no. I've nothing to add to my comments anymore, it would just be a repeat of my earlier words...
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Since i am waiting for WoW i picked City of Heroes as my new adventure. Its actually the most pointless game ever, but atleast the devs dont try to tell you it has any depth or storyline
.. and above all, it has a great fighting engine.
You asked me about a tip how we could improve today's mmorpg's? Lets start with real fighting like in CoH and not the click-auto-fight button as in most other games.
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btw your watch is silver
Heh.
I wish i knew how you meet and make new friends in SWG when the only thing that brings together a "SOLO GRP" People don't even stay on the same planet in a group anymore....let alone chat!
In other games i could walk into any guild i liked. Did i have to check out forums, apply to join on the forum, wait for a tell from a officer, attend one of there guild hunts to see if i was an appropriate candidate???
Did i heck It's a game for pete's sake not a job!
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Theres a couple of massive errors in the points made
If you need to be 'forced' to RP then you arent the kind of player that will be good at/benefit from RP - SWG is the most RP conductive game I've ever played, there are people who will RP (and they are not that hard to find if you know what (not where) to look for) and there are people who wont (in which respect its not that different from other MMORPGs except the environment is easier to RP in IMO)
But by the same token you arent 'forced' to do anything - the holo grind was optional (but people 'felt' they had to do it) and is to be/has been removed from the game
I've played since launch, I'm a merchant and I dont grind and I now have 2.5Mil (in over 12 months play) I mainly resell other players products (usually grinders selling too low) my sales are constant with an average price of about 5k - by contrast a friend who is master TKA made 1.5Mil in about a week (casual play) just doing enranged rancor missions (solo) with master doc buffs - you can make money or you can earn money, your choice, but due to the relative absence of uber loot I dont feel the economy is inflated because of this (uber items cost uber credits and thats how it should be) and certainly after the combat rebalance (read=armour nerf) some prices will come down (composite) and other items will become more desirable (RIS/Mando armour) and these will command the higher prices (and be suitably rare)
You want to meet people? Try a player city for starters.........
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MMORPG -- Where's the RP?
MMORPG -- Where's the RP?
Exploror..
Daoc guilds i could walk into
Dragons of Ancient, Ice Dragons, Lords of Lancelot, Red Cell, Alea Lacta Est, Holy Order Knights, Brits on Tour, and god knows how many more...
All without an interview :P
Pan
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Pan
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MMORPG -- Where's the RP?
You know what is so stupid about MMORPG? Its you and your friends.. 11 year olds who can only whine about others who give their opinion about a game. If you think my opinion sux you either come up with some arguments against mine or you just keep you mouth shut. The last thing we need is a discussion if i may post my feelings about SWG or not. (..or in your words that should be naysaying and whining.) If you really feel so bad about this forum why don't you open a topic about it or just leave it, as i did to SWG.
In short: Go post your frustrated flame somewhere else and keep it ontopic