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New Starting Combat Vid

fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

www.tcos.com/downloads/xfer/The_Chronicles_of_Spellborn__Azrael_&_Raznilof_Part1.wmv

Shows some UI and combat at the starting levels. Good quality vid too.

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www.tcos.com/sbforum/viewtopic.php

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1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    Action... a true mix between MMORPG and FPS... now lets finally talk about PvP...

     

    And when you are behind the keys, it even feels better.

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  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    I wonder why TCoS is not as hyped as AoC or WAR? For me TCoS is a total winner.  The other MMOs have nothing except famous backstorys and even more famous characters.

  • HexxeityHexxeity Member Posts: 848
    Originally posted by daarco


    I wonder why TCoS is not as hyped as AoC or WAR? For me TCoS is a total winner.  The other MMOs have nothing except famous backstorys and even more famous characters.

    Because hype is meaningless, and a good game will survive on its own merits?

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Originally posted by Hexxeity

    Originally posted by daarco


    I wonder why TCoS is not as hyped as AoC or WAR? For me TCoS is a total winner.  The other MMOs have nothing except famous backstorys and even more famous characters.

    Because hype is meaningless, and a good game will survive on its own merits?

    Agreed.

    Hype almost always leads to major let downs. Once a game comes out, all it needs is a little advertising and word of mouth.

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    Yeah, i know. But why is always "bad" MMOs hyped? Cant we for once see a good game beeing hyped?

  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Originally posted by daarco


    Yeah, i know. But why is always "bad" MMOs hyped? Cant we for once see a good game beeing hyped?
    Because the bad MMOs hype everyone into believing that thier MMO will be the best ever, spending all thier money on hype/promotion and not on the game itself.

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • LiagoLiago Member UncommonPosts: 64

    Yea some games need hype good games more often speak for themselves. Also I think as development continues there will be a bit more buz behind TCoS. With every diary and vid released more interest seems to be gathered.

  • darkruedarkrue Member Posts: 11

    It's not necessarily that good or bad games are over or under hyped. I really think the company just goes "oh. . our game sucks. start the over-hyping drive!" or if they have a good game, they just sit there and laugh at everyone else.

  • GarfunkelGarfunkel Member UncommonPosts: 224

    Originally posted by fyerwall


     
    Originally posted by Hexxeity

    Originally posted by daarco


    I wonder why TCoS is not as hyped as AoC or WAR? For me TCoS is a total winner.  The other MMOs have nothing except famous backstorys and even more famous characters.

    Because hype is meaningless, and a good game will survive on its own merits?

    Agreed.

     

    Hype almost always leads to major let downs. Once a game comes out, all it needs is a little advertising and word of mouth.


    Hype = customer expectation & loyalty = word of mouth = viral marketing = free PR.

    I would think there's something wrong if the devs think TCOS doesn't need any of that.

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  • DelanorDelanor Member Posts: 659
    Originally posted by Garfunkel

    Hype = customer expectation & loyalty = word of mouth = viral marketing = free PR.
     
    I would think there's something wrong if the devs think TCOS doesn't need any of that.



    Last time I checked to hype still meant: to promote or publicize extravagantly. And the hype is causes is bases on unrealistic expectations. The Devs of Spellborn dont seem to like unrealistic expectations. Maybe that is why they always show real in game videos, unlike some other games I know.

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  • GarfunkelGarfunkel Member UncommonPosts: 224

     

    Originally posted by Delanor

    Originally posted by Garfunkel

    Hype = customer expectation & loyalty = word of mouth = viral marketing = free PR.
     
    I would think there's something wrong if the devs think TCOS doesn't need any of that.



    Last time I checked to hype still meant: to promote or publicize extravagantly. And the hype is causes is bases on unrealistic expectations. The Devs of Spellborn dont seem to like unrealistic expectations. Maybe that is why they always show real in game videos, unlike some other games I know.



    Hype menas to promote or publicize extravagantly? Quite possibly. It depends how far they go and it's open to interpretation.

     

    Lets say they keep the hype level at it's current seeitng - hibernation.

    Do you think the game will make much impact? It's the best kept secret in the MMO world right now and if they're launching up against AoC and Warhammer then they they had better figure out who is doing the marketing and wake them up.

    A few game play vids don't generate mass interest unless it's on the back of a wider campaign. But I'm sure they have a strategy figured out, it just most companies would have started the ball rolling by now.  They are under the radar and that's not a good place to be if they are launching in 6-9 months.

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  • DelanorDelanor Member Posts: 659
    Originally posted by Garfunkel


    Hype menas to promote or publicize extravagantly? Quite possibly. It depends how far they go and it's open to interpretation.
     
    Lets say they keep the hype level at it's current seeitng - hibernation.
    Do you think the game will make much impact? It's the best kept secret in the MMO world right now and if they're launching up against AoC and Warhammer then they they had better figure out who is doing the marketing and wake them up.
    A few game play vids don't generate mass interest unless it's on the back of a wider campaign. But I'm sure they have a strategy figured out, it just most companies would have started the ball rolling by now.  They are under the radar and that's not a good place to be if they are launching in 6-9 months.



    You said it.

    However, from the looks of it It is unlikely that they want to peak interest in the game now, because who is to say they will really launch this year? They hope so, but cannot name a date yet.

    But if they want to launch in 6-9 months they really need to start advertising the game, which is not the same thing as hyping it, but that's maybe just semantics.

    But are they up against AoC and WAR? If AoC releases on May 20th, I don't think they are up against AoC at all. The games are vastly different and the curious crowd is already willing to try something new again by the time TCoS releases.

    That leaves WAR and maybe WoW's new expansion. That is hefty competition, agreed. But for some reason I don't worry so much about those two games negatively impacting interest in Spellborn. We will see.

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  • GarfunkelGarfunkel Member UncommonPosts: 224

     

    Originally posted by Delanor

    Originally posted by Garfunkel


    Hype menas to promote or publicize extravagantly? Quite possibly. It depends how far they go and it's open to interpretation.
     
    Lets say they keep the hype level at it's current seeitng - hibernation.
    Do you think the game will make much impact? It's the best kept secret in the MMO world right now and if they're launching up against AoC and Warhammer then they they had better figure out who is doing the marketing and wake them up.
    A few game play vids don't generate mass interest unless it's on the back of a wider campaign. But I'm sure they have a strategy figured out, it just most companies would have started the ball rolling by now.  They are under the radar and that's not a good place to be if they are launching in 6-9 months.



    You said it.

    However, from the looks of it It is unlikely that they want to peak interest in the game now, because who is to say they will really launch this year? They hope so, but cannot name a date yet.

    But if they want to launch in 6-9 months they really need to start advertising the game, which is not the same thing as hyping it, but that's maybe just semantics.

    But are they up against AoC and WAR? If AoC releases on May 20th, I don't think they are up against AoC at all. The games are vastly different and the curious crowd is already willing to try something new again by the time TCoS releases.

    That leaves WAR and maybe WoW's new expansion. That is hefty competition, agreed. But for some reason I don't worry so much about those two games negatively impacting interest in Spellborn. We will see.



    maybe I'm confusing hype with advertising, there's posiibley some cross-over there as it can be a grey area,

    AoC's only going to impact on it if the pvp turns out to be stellar. Like many I'm still searching for the perfect pvp MMO - but I'm thinking it would be easier to find the holy grail.

    WAR and Litch King will have an affect but I think there's a hard core following Spellborn who wont be swayed. and that is money in the bank. It could always be a sleeper hit like Eve which is going from strength to strength based of a solid core game and good fan reactions.

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  • DelanorDelanor Member Posts: 659

    Originally posted by Garfunkel


     

    maybe I'm confusing hype with advertising, there's posiibley some cross-over there as it can be a grey area,
    AoC's only going to impact on it if the pvp turns out to be stellar. Like many I'm still searching for the perfect pvp MMO - but I'm thinking it would be easier to find the holy grail.
    Well, if PvP is what you are looking for AoC might be your best bet. From what devs have been stating about TCoS it will probably not be marketed as a PvP game, while AoC seems to be all about PvP. The only thing that contradicts this is the combat system of TCoS that seems to be ideal for PvP purposes.

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  • ThatimThatim Member Posts: 240

    Originally posted by Delanor


     
    Originally posted by Garfunkel


     

    maybe I'm confusing hype with advertising, there's posiibley some cross-over there as it can be a grey area,
    AoC's only going to impact on it if the pvp turns out to be stellar. Like many I'm still searching for the perfect pvp MMO - but I'm thinking it would be easier to find the holy grail.
    Well, if PvP is what you are looking for AoC might be your best bet. From what devs have been stating about TCoS it will probably not be marketed as a PvP game, while AoC seems to be all about PvP. The only thing that contradicts this is the combat system of TCoS that seems to be ideal for PvP purposes.

     

     

    AoC endgame is mostly about Raiding. In this aspect you can look at WoW. Almost the same balance in raiding / pvp ratio and gear. WAR is almost 90% PvP, but it got the oldskool combat system.

     

    TCoS might turn in a good pvp game, when shard conquest is added. But thats post release.

  • DX-1DX-1 Member Posts: 3

    Originally posted by Delanor


     
    Originally posted by Garfunkel


     

    maybe I'm confusing hype with advertising, there's posiibley some cross-over there as it can be a grey area,
    AoC's only going to impact on it if the pvp turns out to be stellar. Like many I'm still searching for the perfect pvp MMO - but I'm thinking it would be easier to find the holy grail.
    Well, if PvP is what you are looking for AoC might be your best bet.

     

    AoC's PvP is overrated. All you have to do is to smash the 1,2 and 3 keys. Their real-time combat isn't real-time at all, and as previously mentioned; high lvl PvP is dominated by raid gear. And let's not forget those silly minigames.

  • ladyattisladyattis Member Posts: 1,273

    What I'm guessing by the fact that everyone gets to choose a house (faction) to side with during level progression that PVP is inherent to this title from the get go. That may be a turn off for some, but it seems that it doesn't steal focus from the questing/PVE elements. *shrugs*

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  • ProfRedProfRed Member UncommonPosts: 3,495

    I really liked this video.  I love stuff that isn't very doctored and just shows people playing.  I know it doesn't impress random people or anything, but to me that video was amazing.  I am really excited about this game.

  • HawkbitHawkbit Member Posts: 31

    I liked the video.  I hope the game gets a real shot because this genre needs some new blood.  Hopefully they won't launch too close to either WoW xpac or WAR, I honestly think that would be disasterous. 

     

    As far as all the hype mongering above, remember... In mid-2004 EQ2 was going to be the game to end all games.  WoW wasn't really even being talked about.  It wasn't until WoW did their open beta that everyone made the shift.  WoW *is* the exception to almost everything, sure.  But it really didn't have the hype. 

     

    As mentioned above - if you launch a solid, fun game that is content complete and functional, you will almost surely generate hype.

  • AgtSmithAgtSmith Member Posts: 1,498
    Originally posted by fyerwall


     
    Originally posted by daarco


    Yeah, i know. But why is always "bad" MMOs hyped? Cant we for once see a good game beeing hyped?
    Because the bad MMOs hype everyone into believing that thier MMO will be the best ever, spending all thier money on hype/promotion and not on the game itself.

     

     

    Sorta, but not exactly.  Games with issues, much like movies, know they have to make an early grab for cash because they will have little sustainability - so they focus allot of resources on 'hype' and marketting to get that intial cash.  Just like bad movies go all out for the first weekend knowing they will be on DVD in weeks.  Additionally, known IPs are allways gonna get a bit more attention than unknown ones.

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  • gFizgFiz Member Posts: 153
    Originally posted by Hawkbit


     
    As far as all the hype mongering above, remember... In mid-2004 EQ2 was going to be the game to end all games.  WoW wasn't really even being talked about.  It wasn't until WoW did their open beta that everyone made the shift.  WoW *is* the exception to almost everything, sure.  But it really didn't have the hype. 
     

     

    WoW wasn't talked about?  I don't know if there's every been a more hyped MMO to date, one made off of one of the most successful video game franchises of all time??  Shoot, that IS the reason for WoW's initial success, the branding of the Warcraft universe.  From there they marketed smartly and built up the franchise to ridiculous proportions.  Eq2 did zero of the same, and the results speak for themselves.

     

    Anyway, I agree otherwise, the video is cool, definitely a bit different from the norm from the combat to the graphics, and I'm looking forward to seeing when the game launches.

  • EasycureEasycure Member Posts: 14

    This video really surpriced me, it looks much more interesting then all major game releases this year!

    Gameplay videos are really the best way to make us players take notice.

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