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Any mmorpg actually require skill?
Used to play enchanter in EQ1 -- do any mmorpg nowadays have a class with challenging play style that is powerful / rare ?
I was thinking of trying out guildwars because of all the options but it seems a bit poor that anyone can rock up and have a max level character in PVP (i.e. didn't earn their levels etc)
i've played so far also Eve (good but slow paced and takes about a year to do anything) and Vanguard SoH just after release, and Wow (but please don't mention Wow which should have been renamed "super easy for kids")...
so... any worthwhile challenges out there?
van..
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let me pull up a few
http://gunz.ijji.com/
http://sfront.ijji.com/
now those are really online FPS. if you want a mmorpg that requires skills you best choice would be http://mabinogi.nexon.net/
unlike most mmorpg's you dont click once and watch you guy kill something. also you you want it to be a challenge play as the yongest age the yonger you are the harder it is
IMO try lineage II, just watch out for the scammers;) could also try LOTRO, not terribly easy but interesting enough ( i like the bards, very versatile) or just wait until AoC opens:)
I like the title of this post........a valid question. Is skill the correct word to identify someones ability to play a game. It's not like you could put it down on a job application. Any mmorpg actually require skill? Hmm......
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On-line Medical Dictionary, © 1997-98 Academic Medical Publishing & CancerWEBOK, I suppose it applies. In regards to your question.....no......there arn't any worthwhile challenges out there. It's all bubble gum for the brain.
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I think Lineage II may be what you need. I know it is full of botters/cheaters/hackers whatever, but the game is actually fun. The castle sieges, well, look for yourself on youtube, they look awsome. The community is good on most servers mainly because the game doesn't appeal to kids, which is excellent.
I'd also recommend EQ2. I've never actually raided properly myself but from what i've read and what friends who do raid have told me, it sounds as if a certain amount of "skill" is needed to be effective. However, this is all second hand information, so i can't say this is completely true.
first off i love gaming, i currently play 3 mmo's. now, with that being said heres the strraightdope, some games take skills, some peeps havem some dont. also, no game is really worth while. you really only get fun out of it and sometimes not even that. it's all virtual unless your a farmer and make money that way, but then that cant be to fun now could it. point is if you want to challenge yourself try an outdoor sport or something. video games are for the fun of it
Vendetta Online is quite the challenge PVP wise. Its a twitch combat system and allows multiple ways to fight joysticks, mouse, and many other options. Big missions allow major combat between large fighter class ships, other players, and large frigates etc. Quite an intense combat system.
You up for the challenge?
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I think Lineage II may be what you need. I know it is full of botters/cheaters/hackers whatever, but the game is actually fun. The castle sieges, well, look for yourself on youtube, they look awsome. The community is good on most servers mainly because the game doesn't appeal to kids, which is excellent.
I'd also recommend EQ2. I've never actually raided properly myself but from what i've read and what friends who do raid have told me, it sounds as if a certain amount of "skill" is needed to be effective. However, this is all second hand information, so i can't say this is completely true.
well, from 1st hand knowledge of 4 + yrs playing EQ2 and 2 yrs playing L2 on and off i'd say you are correct sir:) raiding in EQ2 does require good leadership and skill to be effective. you can tell the skilled from the unskilled very quick if your raiding with em. and L2 is just awsome, hardcore but awsome and yes , geared more toward adults which lends to the real world hardness of itI will just mention this about Guild wars.... It does require quite a bit of skill. Leveling is nothing. Plus the ability to make a pvp character that is 20 is very limited. You start out with only the basic skills and have to pvp a lot to get elite and better skills in order to come up with more builds.
Guild wars has a dual-class system which makes things very interesting. I'm just making these numbers up as an estimate but each class has about 200 or so skills so with two classes you can mix and match over 400 skills on a bar of 8. Choosing good combos that work and such can be challenging.
Guild Wars pvp is probably in my opinion the best of the bunch. Guild Wars PvE is lacking sadly. It's not horrible but it could be better. I would definitly see about a trial key or heck even just buy prophecies, the first campaing which I think is 20 bucks now and see if you enjoy it, then get the other ones for more classes and fun.
Nightfall is actually probably the best one to buy first since you get more bang for your buck but it's up to you if you even want to try it.
You clearly like the fantasy-style games, which is great - but if you're willing to try something new, I'd recommend EVE Online (www.eve-online.com). It's a sci-fi MMO. There are some RPG aspects to it, but it's very PVP-oriented. Nearly everything about the game is player-driven. CCP (EVE's developers) has great forums full of knowledge if you want to check out more about the game, but they regularly take player input and incorporate what they can into the game. The learning curve when first starting the game is like hitting a brick-wall, but there's good corporations (same as 'guilds') that will happily help you out. PVP and PVE can range from 1v1 all the way up to enormous fleet engagements with 100's of pilots involved.
As you were previously an Enchanter, there's not too much of an equivelent role within EVE, but there are ships and skills that would allow you to perform logistics and command roles (giving buffs, etc.), and electronic warfare (crowd control).
The Chronicles of Spellborn when it comes out and Darkfall if it ever comes out.
^What he said. EvE is the only mmorpg out there that requires the player to have skill.
Clearly you haven't even read this thread and just trying to sell EVE to anyone looking for a MMO to play.
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