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Trying SWG Again -- on Bloodfin -- Need Rebel Guild.
DrSaw
Member Posts: 81
So I never thought I would go back to SWG after being gone so long, but after reading the posts on here by other disgruntled vets, I decided to try it again. I'm playing the two weeks trial and so far it is very playable. The only problem is that the server seems to be a ghost town for the most part.
I was just curious if any of you are in active Rebel guilds that might be interested in adding another vet?
My in-game name is "Trellen"
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I played a toon on Bloodfin for a month 3 - 4 months ago and the server was nearly completely dead...
Bloodfin is perhaps the most populated server, which tells you the state SWG is currently in. Go to Rustess or Mos Eisley. You MAY find 100 or so people playing on the server, but the population will be NOTHING like what you remember from Pre-CU.
A Pre-CU on "Very Light" had a lot more people than an NGE "Heavy" server. The numbers have been proportionalized.
Tecmo Bowl.
I am not playing on Bloodfin at the moment, but I bet VOD is still going strong. If I were you, I would send someone like Ars a tell in game.
Sorry, wish I could be more help, but I starting leveling a new character on bria recently so I dot have too much helpful info, some guilds I remember doing pretty well from a few months ago were VOD FOAD and FIGHT.
Also, I believe several rebel guilds transferred from other servers.
I personally doubt bloodfin is the most populated server - Bria would fill that position i believe. Bloodfin cant be doing terribly well, at least not back then as in the run up to christmas back then was when my galaxy chilastra felt considerably more populated than it had. Anyway, sorry OP, i cannot help you with guilds on Bloodfin, but i suggest, unless you already have, posting on the bloodfin forums on the SWG official forums - you may get a better response there
Best Rebel guild on Bloodfin is FOAD/-FOAD. I was part of them for the better part of 2 years. Good group of guys and gals. I can't understand why any of them still play, but they are the best the server has to offer.
And yes, Bloodfin is the most populous server. And it's barren compared to a year ago, despite the vet trials, and despite transfers.
I agree, bloodfin isn't the most populated server, bria probably holds that position - Although the refugees would have you believe it is, to fuel their vendette that every server is a ghost town
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
I believe that Bria holds the top spot population wise, but Bloodfin is right up threre. It seems that any apppreciable population only occurs at specific times day, such as evening hours. Some servers see more players only at weekly events. Many players from the 20 or so ghost servers are transferring a toon or rerolling a toon on a more populated server, or just flat out cancelling. This is being further fueled by group intensive heroic content and declining PvP, which is getting increasingly harder to do with less players.
As others have agreed, bloodfin is not the most populous server, and if its anything like chilastra, it would have been a lot less populated a year ago than it is now.
Ya know you can talk to people in the game thru station launcher without even being subscribed if it's friends you miss. You can even see who in your friend list is on.
Last time I had a vet trial I asked an old friend where everyone was at. She told me there were alot in Restuss ...there were 20 of them playing king of the hill...?...lol... Pretty bad when 20 people is considered alot. This was during a vet trial 2 months ago and from what I saw it's pretty damned empty now. The emptiest I've ever seen it TBH. You can't find people to help you with all the new content they just added either, and it's supposed to be group adventures. I gave up ever trying to find love for SWG. For me the game I used to play has gone the way of E&B.
Just to illustrate how far the populations have fallen, even on a server like Bloodfin...
Back in the Pre-CU I led a guild that at it's height had about 150 members. About 50 were very active, on every night. When we'd do guild mission night (to pay for the city maintenance, back in the Pre-CU maintaining a city was EXPENSIVE) we'd run MULTIPLE 20 man groups, and that was more or less standard. When we'd do things like make a `Vette run, we'd have to TURN PEOPLE AWAY because the 20 man group was full. We even had to turn people away for space missions, such as helping someone ace (because again, the 20 man group was full).
(remember that back in the Pre-CU groups could have 20 people in them)
My guild was considered to be small-medium size. Other guilds (like FOAD, VOD, V, NDC, etc) could put twice (or more) than our numbers into groups during prime time.
These days you are lucky to get even a "full" 8 man group out of a single guild. 20 people in one place is "huge" (and causes massive lag). We'd take 20 people or more as a single group into the DWB pre NGE...
As a footnote, at the time I quit SWG, I think I was the LAST person left from my old Pre-CU guild who was still around. Lots of other guilds vanished with the CU and NGE. If my old guild existed today with the numbers it had Pre-CU it'd be the overwealmingly LARGEST guild on Bloodfin and probably could dominate PVP without any help from the other Rebel guild who probably couldn't match our typical active number.
That's how far it's fallen.
My original SWG guild of around 200 or so ALL left for WoW when it was first released in 2004, leaving me behind in SWG at the time. That guild has since returned back to SWG again.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=625711
And still 99% of the population complains about dead servers daily now. These complaints like never happened pre-cu. Even though guilds came and went, you could always find another active guild. Sure people went to play WoW pre-cu, the kicker here is once people got sick of it and wanted to return to SWG they saw it wasn't the game they left and decided it wasn't worth staying to play. If SOE had never changed a thing the ending to this story may have been a bit different. I even hear people from my old SWG guild who swore the NGE was great and stayed thru it all now complain about how dead the game is, they've even left themselves. This was one of Bloodfin's oldest guilds, who has ran the oldest player city still surviving (barely) What's up with that?
My original SWG guild of around 200 or so ALL left for WoW when it was first released in 2004, leaving me behind in SWG at the time. That guild has since returned back to SWG again.
Fail.
The biggest guilds remaining on Bloodfin are actually very old. Such as FOAD, which still exists.
Yes, there is such thing as "churn" in guilds and subscribers, in the case of SWG, no one ever came in to replace them. No new large guilds exist to replace the old ones that died.
From everything I've read, Bloodfin is rather healthy at the moment. Being that it's been crashing due to population issues over the past few weeks, I'm inclined to believe what I read.
Nothing but sunshine and roses huh?
How can Bloodfin be crashing due to population when the population is only "heavy". By your own words there are still 3 more tiers above heavy - very heavy, extremely heavy, and full. I remember Bloodfin being on "very high" several times in the past (pre-CU of course) and it seemed quite stable. Hell, I even remember it reaching "extremely heavy" too and that didn't seem to affect the stability.
Regardless, I guess you have that extra special close-knit guild that does everything together cause it sure does seem like everyone else has lost virtually everyone in their old guilds. Besides, if they left en masse once before it'll happen again (actually twice if you consider their exodus from WoW as well).
From everything I've read, Bloodfin is rather healthy at the moment. Being that it's been crashing due to population issues over the past few weeks, I'm inclined to believe what I read.
So what you’re saying is your fellow SWG players are lying then? That’s nice of you to call them liars. You know Obraik even if you were the last person playing the game you would defend it, so I don’t even bother taking what you say as gospel. And neither should anyone else here.
I saw how empty Bloodfin is compared to what it used to be, I played on it for years myself. I still talk to people who like the game for some reason, and play, but tell me it’s empty, and they just can’t get anything going. I believe them since I saw it too.
If the servers are crashing than it's because it has the same unknown issues it allways has had.
I’m actually really shocked you would turn on your own people and say they are lying about low server populations.
I'm pretty sure someone makes a new thread about this daily You crack me up. everyone can see right thru you, even your fellow players. 
The reason for the crashing is likely tied to the fundamental flaw in the NGE combat system (mostly it's speed).
Add to this they keep adding more "Foozle" instances each publish, and I doubt they added more server capacity for them.
The irony is that the NGE is so poorly designed that even IF the fanbois somehow convinced everyone to return, all 25 servers would melt if we did because they are incapable of supporting even half the former populations.
Yeah, as crappy as I think the combat system is I would strongly consider going back if the server didn't feel so empty. Besides that though, if I go back I am essentially validating was SOE did to SWG, and that feels wrong too.
I started over on Bria when I had my trial and I did see people, but the population seemed very sparse. It's more fun when you see a good number of people. What defines 'a good number of people' is different for everyone though I guess.
Funny that the cry babies who no longer play the game are experts on server populations. They cite cry babies on SWG's own forums as "proof" that servers are ghosts towns and what not, as if those people are authorities too. Nevermind the fact that people who hate the game exaggerate how poorly its doing.
Here's an interesting idea, I'll comment on what I've seen for myself, instead of trying to spin the state of the game to suit my own purposes. (I mean seriously, consider salvaje, he's taken the time to create a whole "blog" about a game he hates. He's DEFFINATELY a reliable source with no bias.)
Anyways, Bria is still quite packed and healthy. Bria is a west coast US server. Eclipse is doing well too, as an east coast US server. As for server crashes, I haven't seen any of those since I've returned to the game.
You can always transfer to a new server. You'll still have all your stuff and can pack up your houses into your datapad. When you place your house again, all your stuff will be where it was previously in your house.
Anways, hope that helps. Take my opinion or don't
**Returned SWG Player**
Yeah, I used to hate the game because of NGE as much as anyone, but I've been playing the game since Feb. 2008 and have honestly had a good time. If you hate the game, fantastic, move along. Its all been said before and your continuous griefing just makes you look like a sad individual with nothing better to do.
Most of the vets who post here have been in the game recently because SOE gives out vet trials like they are candy. We *do* know what the populations look like and we do know what the current state of the game is. But like salvaje says...don't trust us go download the trial and see for yourself.
Sigh,
This guy posted asking about rebel guilds on Bloodfin... So far almost every disgruntled player has felt the need to chime in about how population is down.
Why don't you post that on one of the many topics addressing the population, instead of hijacking his topic so you can vent?
It is probably too late now anyway, but again I think FOAD, VOD , and FIGHT are your best chances.
Populations are dreadful. So dreadful, it makes me sad to see it happening. I'm glad you came back and are some how enjoying the debacle but lying won't bring back populations.
Tecmo Bowl.
Populations are dreadful. So dreadful, it makes me sad to see it happening. I'm glad you came back and are some how enjoying the debacle but lying won't bring back populations.
I've only been back to the game (on Bria) for 2 days now and the game isn't really that bad although I haven't done anything really but try to get from level 80-90 (currently 84), and I've pvp'd a little.
As far as server populations go, they are dwindled from what they used to be but last night they were decent. I wouldn't call them packed like it used to be but they are good enough I guess?
I would say in Theed in front of the spaceport area around 9pm EST there were roughly about 100 there either dueling, trading or whatever. This wasn't counting the cantina. I was extremely surprised that the cantina had people in it. There were about 5 entertainers there with about 20-30 people or so getting buffs or just watching.
It definately raised an eyebrow as it was cool. The game still has issues, and the UI is pretty horrible but I'm willing to look past it for now until something else comes out.
I didn't go to Mos Eisley last night but I went the night before and the spaceport there had a good amount of people. Considering about a year ago when I "tried" the NGE for the first time, the servers were much more of a ghost town than now, and this was on Bria.
It seems some folks are going back to play just because everything else is just a plain bore. Not saying SWG isn't, but I guess I'm there for the fact that I have nothing else to do lol.
I guess the real question I have is...once I hit level 90 what is there to do besides just pvp or duel. Are there any raids or anything now to get better gear? etc etc
Heh this whole population issue makes me laugh. Anyone who says SWG is not dead is really fooling themself.
In EVE i've been in fleets larger then the whole population playing on the SWG servers. Some alliances have THOUSANDS of people in them. Many others have hundreds.
SWG is dead. I miss my pre cu jedi, but move along. I wouldn't pay SOE one penny now even if they went for a rollback. You can never trust SOE will not screw you again.
All you new SWG players who down vets for being discruntled are suckers. SOE many times lied and screwed paying customers. For ANYONE to defend this buisness practice is just plain wrong.
Just imagine putting years of your time into your character to find one day without warning that everything you worked for in game has been broken and destroyed. SOE was caught in MANY lies not only with NGE, but over the years before hand.
You new SWG players really need to research the company you're giving your $ before you insult vet players who have been ripped off and lied to.
SWG vets really need to move on. For me I am enjoying EVE (my pvp game) and LOTRO (for my pve rpg)
SHOHADAKU
To me it sounds more like you're still holding that grudge from where you took months or over a year to build your jedi only to have it squashed by SOE. This is understandable.
I'm not by any means defending the game at all. I just thought I'd try it again and see how it was and how the populations currently are.
Are even the most populated servers packed? No.
Are they completely dead? No.
Do they have enough people playing to make the game possibly enjoyable? Yes.
I tried EVE and played it for about a month and it just wasn't for me. I played LOTRO since beta and have a level 50 guardian and a level 40 burglar. I just lost interest even after the raid content. I led a guild called Mithril Guard on the Arkenstone server and we were a hardcore raiding guild where our min req was level 50, etc etc and we had alot of members. Alot of people just lost interest and the guild disbanded.
Right now there really isn't anything out there that interests me so I thought I'd give SWG one more try, and while it's horrid in some aspects, it's not bad in others.
Just my 2 cents.