Originally posted by Heartland Originally posted by tck_tokyo... the vast majority of the players prefer the whole fantasy thing. It's definitely not to my liking but what can one do. What I'm most surprised about is the fact that there isn't a "Eve of Fantasy games" so to speak. That is, a complex involved game that doesn't treat its users as some sort of testosterone-poisoned thirteen-year old (swords twice the size of people, all female creatures have large breasts and wear bikinis, etc, etc). Something that actually manages to weave a semi-reasonable and -believable universe. Of the new games coming out, I'd say Dark & Light looks like the only option for us that would like a proper fantasy. Too bad Warhammer Online folded, looked like it had some potential in this direction as well.
Agreed about the sword twice the size of the guy thing, and I also think it sucks that most of them are so focused around level grinding.. but I'm sorry I just love the thong on nightelf chicks in lineage 2, hehe. I'm not 18 though, not 13 so it might be for other reasons. I didn't know warhammer online folded, not too surprised though, I heard some interesting history about starcraft (that lovely rts from blizzard) and games workshop. What's dark and light?
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Originally posted by Wrukk I've played EVE for over a year. There is no doubt the the game has great graphics and overall gameplay. However, I am a fairly big PvP fan and I have to admit that I do not care for the PvP in EVE. There are many truths in the things that have already been said, good and bad. There are numerous ways to make money, though overall, mining is the best, and most would say the least enjoyable. I think that the chat interface could be jazzed up a bit, but then again, lots of people/corps use voice chat like Teamspeak, etc. especially for PvP ops.
I am a big PvP fan and PvP is the reason I play MMORGPs. The PvP in EVE is by far the best I have ever tried. At first sight it looks like you just lock target, activate your guns and then wait but it's so much deeper then that. It all comes down to skill. Not your skill points but your personal skill. I have been playing since release and my main character is pretty well skilled with 16 million skill points and all important skills at level 5 but that doesn't say jack sh** when in combat. I can't be owned by a 2 million skill point noob character if he knows what he's doing and I don't. I also have an account I started with the free 14 trial I got at this site. When my trial expired I had killed 4 cruisers solo all in my little Rifter frigate and they avaraged about 6 months. Also killed a battleship with a few trial account friends. (ok I admit I've probably died around 15 times myself but that is almost as fun as getting your pray) It was a blast and I am now paying for the account giving my main a needed break.
I saw some comments about how boring mining is and that you can't get anywhere without it. That is just plain WRONG. I have been playing since early beta and not once have I fitted a mining laser on my ship. I don't even think I have the Mining skill although I might have it at level 1 after character creation. I own almost every single ship type in the game. Just need 3 more battleships and the new special ops frigates (I'm a collector and the ships in EVE are so beautiful). My main ships fitting are all the best named modules and I have a head full of implants. Never have I touched a mining laser and never will I. Most of my ISK I made from watching the market and the trade channels. Buying what I know I can sell with a decent profit. The market is fully player driven so with a little skill and thought you can buy stuff cheap and sell it with a large profit without having to leave your station. For example when megacyte prices were going up like crazy I bought battleships for all my ISK from players that didn't notice the mega price rise and straight away sold them for almost 1.5x what I paid for them to players that knew that manufacturing cost had gone up.
I have been playing the game since I first got into the beta and I still spend so much time on it that it's almost sick. My girlfriend actually broke up with me cause she was second to EVE I still play the game for hours each day (not a power player though, I don't do what is most profitable, I do what I think is fun) and I find that it gets more and more fun the more I play.
Also for those who state that they left cause of balancing issues then, yes there were balace problems in the start but right now every is as close to fully balanced as I can imagine. You should give it another try. Starting a new account is no problem as a frigate pilot can be just as valuable in combat as a battleship pilot.
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The fact of the matter is, everything has problems so why is EVE going to be different? THere are bugs, problems with gameplay etc etc but that is going to happen after all it cannot be good for everyone. In EVE when you lose things you CAN lose big, but not if you have half a brain in your head. I have lost 5 battleships in the space of a week however they were all platinum insured and I have been able to recover fairly easily. If you don't want to lose a BS then insure it for 33M or dont take it out of safe space. I am the Vice CEO of a corporation based in 0.0 space. We know the locations of the best ores in the game and saying that new players to the game can have cruisers within weeks is false. We have several (5-10) of our first members were noobs, 3-4 days on they all now have a fighting cruiser, mining cruiser several haulers, a healthy bank balance and a high rank within our corp. Hiven corp is a huge success, we rocketed up to almost 30 members within 2 weeks then sadly some ****er with director abilities who has been playing the game a while booted lots of members out and stole close to 50M ISK worth of stuff. Do I stop the game, NO I just boot him out get the members to rejoin and do a bit more mining. In regard to making money mining IS undoubtedly the best way. In my ship mining Bistot I can make about 500 000 ISK a minute, mining Arkonor I can make closer to 1 million ISK a minute. So it is simple, mine for 20 minutes a day, haul for a further 20 and u got urself a BS/week. Our corporation, which is only a few weeks old already has well over 100M sitting in the bank with a further 70M in ore form, it will only get bigger. Who is to say you cannot bridge the gap? Of course you can. Strength in numbers I say. The thing with the big alliances monopolising the good ore, well that is why we set up Hiven, because we are sick of them. We intend to breed a master corporation which will one day fight against them in a guerilla type of war, yes it is already planned. I hate SA and CA and any other big alliance that holds onto territory for their members only, it sucks. It is however a game and it is a much funner game when you can focus your anger on someone and blame them for something and ultimately go to war with them. It would not be a game without pirates, assholes, bully corps, evil corps, greedy corps and any other baddy you can find, hell we need someone to kill! With Shiva tons of your problems stated will disappear, we will be building our own space stations with refineries, sentry guns, missile launchers, ECM devices, mines, forcefields etc etc. You can create research slots and factories at your own stations so there will no longer be a saturated research slot. People be patient with EVE, do not join SA or CA just because fighting them is harder, that is exactly what they want you to do, it is not a fair universe but neither is the real world, we must stand for what we know is right even if we are outgunned, outnumbered and trapped. I for one will certainly fight them and fight them and fight them to the ultimate bitter end. Hiven will be releaseing a web site in a few months along with forums etc, contact me in game (NE Weevil) for more information on our corp etc and what we stand for and give EVE the benefit it is due, the graphics are stunning, gameplay is slow but sophisticated, community is unbelievably good, corporations add a magnificant dimension to the game and over all it is a 10/10 game as simple as that.
Since I came back about 3 mnoths ago, I've done very little mining (all I did was mine before I left). I think I mined for about a week, then went off to seek my fortune with the agent missions. Now I have a battleship, a couple of cruisers and a couple if indys. And I'm hooked all over again.
As a complete newbie in mmorpg's i have noticed there is a lot of disussion about eve-online. When you c the site and read the previews ity sounds like heaven on earth. But some player-reactions made me shiver. I think a lot of mmorpg players only can afford 1 mmorpg, just like me. But after about six months i'm still in doubt about Eve-online. Is it possible 4 a newbie to get some power in the first month? If catching up in eve-online is so hard will there be any new players???? Eve-online looks almost perfect but why play an expensive form of doing the same thing over and over??
When there's questions about a game and a Trial on offer, take advantage of it.
With Eve-Online, it's not about owning the character with the most skills etc. Eve online is not for Power-gamers. It is for Casual Gamers. It is almost impossible to catch up to someone who has started prior to you when learning new skills. Uness they do not begin learning a new skill after the previous one for some time.
As a "noobie" for the 1st month you want to either focus on "industry skills" or "combat skiils". Attempt to do both and you wont be able to progress as rapidly as someone who focused on one. This is what sets the game apart. Although your character can learn every skill in the game, how you start out determines your progress later on. So it's all up to your style of play.
Most impotrantly find a well establish Player Run Corporation to get you started. There are thousands (litterly) that are always looking for new players to the game, willing to help you out.
Need any further help DA_madAce let me know.
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Also getting plugged into a corp is essential when staying for the long haul. If you plan on playing solo, you will not last very long. Space is very big out there....and very lonely with no friends and in a NPC noob corp.
Getting plugged into a good corp will be good in that you'll meet great friends, have scheduled mining runs, scheduled (meaning we all get together on every Sunday for example) and do Pirate runs, etc.
There's so many possibilities that its endless.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Originally posted by En1Gma Also getting plugged into a corp is essential when staying for the long haul. If you plan on playing solo, you will not last very long. Space is very big out there....and very lonely with no friends and in a NPC noob corp. Getting plugged into a good corp will be good in that you'll meet great friends, have scheduled mining runs, scheduled (meaning we all get together on every Sunday for example) and do Pirate runs, etc. There's so many possibilities that its endless.
This is quite true. Soloing is possible to some extent in empire space, and very limited extent in 0.0. All together however, the really great part about EVE is how community based it is. That's what makes the game so much fun, that everything has to do with dealing with other people, if you want to make any big differences in the universe. Being able to solo is an important necessity in my opinion, just incase there's not many others on sometimes, or sometimes you are just tired of the people you're with or what not, but generally speaking teaming up with people in everything you do should be your goal. Even if the 'teaming' only refers to communicating alot with people wherever you go. You'd have to be a hermit to not enjoy any of that
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Originally posted by DA_MadAce As a complete newbie in mmorpg's i have noticed there is a lot of disussion about eve-online. When you c the site and read the previews ity sounds like heaven on earth. But some player-reactions made me shiver. I think a lot of mmorpg players only can afford 1 mmorpg, just like me. But after about six months i'm still in doubt about Eve-online. Is it possible 4 a newbie to get some power in the first month? If catching up in eve-online is so hard will there be any new players???? Eve-online looks almost perfect but why play an expensive form of doing the same thing over and over?? I really hope i'm mestaken.
May The Force Be With You. DA_MadAce
As Malkavian notes, you should try the trial, it's free after all. One important thing you have to notice before you get in there however (which most people notice too late) is that the people you join with in game will make or break the game for you 95% of the time. Make sure that if you dislike the game it's because the game in itself is not for you, and that it's not just because you didn't enjoy what you did because the corporation you were with didn't allow access to enough features or what not. It's a good idea to read up on all the features of EVE (as well as the ones coming up with Shiva) on the official website, www.eve-online.com since this will give you an idea of what you can look forward to when you get more skills and become more experienced in the wonderful galaxy of EVE-Online.
Note: Most people writing 'horrid' reviews on EVE-Online are one of a few sort of people:
1) Have no idea what they're talking about type A) played the game for a while and got really unlucky and for some reason failed to notice right things at the right time and just got aggravated and went and raved about how bad it was on some forums to take out their anger.
2) Have no idea what they're talking about type these are the ones that give reviews with lots of weakly based opinions, ones that they can't back up enough. Luckily these ones are often torn apart by me or other people like me.
3) Veterans of EVE who had a horrible experience such as the "lose all of the corp original blueprints" type of people. These ones are incredibly angry and take it out on the game instead of the person that stole them, since this person is long gone. From here they try to think of small things that annoy them a little about EVE and make those factors sound like disasters.
There are numerous other ones but you get the idea.. Try the game out yourself and see if it's for you. If something seems so wrong to you that it just can't be right, check in here to make sure that you're not just missing out on some option change (such as these chumps whining about how the text is too small therefor say that the game is completely awful, I guess they didn't play long enough to notice that they can switch the text size).
Some people just say the game isn't for them, but those usually aren't the ones that write horrid reviews, they write fair ones.
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I'm running 2 accounts again now, so it can't be that bad.
I see the reviews from people that have played for maybe a couple of hours saying "this game sucks" "it's the most boring game I ever played" and "there's nothing to do but mine" and I think to myself "if only they had actually done the tutorial, or at least got some more info on the game before diving in blind" there is so much depth to Eve that you can't get a good idea of what the game is about in a couple of hours, in fact, I think that a 14 day trial will only allow you to scratch the surface.
I joined the free trial about ten days ago, with little idea how to play the game, once I got started and realized I knew nothing I went and looked for info online and found plenty of good info, mostly on the official EVE forums but also on many fansites.
Theres so much to choose from and when I see something cool I want to try it so I've been somewhat haphazard in the skills I've learned. I've run missions, mined (yes it can be boring but you can make a lot of isk(money) in a very short time if you do it right), fought pirates, bought and sold items, refined and have earned well over 2 million isk in my short time playing. The only areas I haven't tried are PvP, Manufacturing, and Research. I have played solo only so far because I want to get a feel for the game (and see if I was going to stay) before I make a commitment to a player run corp.
I hate to say it but I'm hooked, I'm signing up after the trial runs out. The biggest compliment I can give this game is it reminds me of Elite, one of my favorite computer games of all time, I think that may be why there are a lot of older gamers in EVE, as Elite is an "old school" game. Another reason for the older crowd may be the fact that you need an attention span longer than a music video to really get into the game.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is anyone that calls it boring simply isn't trying very hard, has a very short attention span, or is more suited to the mainstream hack and slash style of mmorpg's
Thanks for the trial MMORPG.COM, I love my new addiction.
Originally posted by Tolerance Just a note on my personal experience with EVE I joined the free trial about ten days ago, with little idea how to play the game, once I got started and realized I knew nothing I went and looked for info online and found plenty of good info, mostly on the official EVE forums but also on many fansites. Theres so much to choose from and when I see something cool I want to try it so I've been somewhat haphazard in the skills I've learned. I've run missions, mined (yes it can be boring but you can make a lot of isk(money) in a very short time if you do it right), fought pirates, bought and sold items, refined and have earned well over 2 million isk in my short time playing. The only areas I haven't tried are PvP, Manufacturing, and Research. I have played solo only so far because I want to get a feel for the game (and see if I was going to stay) before I make a commitment to a player run corp. I hate to say it but I'm hooked, I'm signing up after the trial runs out. The biggest compliment I can give this game is it reminds me of Elite, one of my favorite computer games of all time, I think that may be why there are a lot of older gamers in EVE, as Elite is an "old school" game. Another reason for the older crowd may be the fact that you need an attention span longer than a music video to really get into the game. I guess the point I'm trying to make is anyone that calls it boring simply isn't trying very hard, has a very short attention span, or is more suited to the mainstream hack and slash style of mmorpg's Thanks for the trial MMORPG.COM, I love my new addiction.
I'm happy you saw what many others didn't. By the way I don't mean to make this a recruitment ad, but if you are interested in joining a corporation but not being forced into mining ops and forced to do work for the corporation, but want to have the ability to make your own decisions and do things in your own pace, then you might be interested in the corporation I'm in. It's called Freelancer Union, and the corporation serves as a medium for you to meet other freelancers and have the ability to work with them if you want to do group activities (that sounded childish but you know what I mean). If you're interested in PVP for when you've trained yourself up a bit mroe it's also the perfect place for you, as I run a bounty hunting squadron that might interest you. Generally just a fun community of people reside in my corporation, I think you might enjoy joining Think about it anyway, if you want to contact me ingame my name is "Anjelle".
Either way, good luck in EVE. Safe sailing.
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Originally posted by Hardin New players joining EVE now have it easier than at any stage of the game. There are varieties of routes towards making money and contrary to popular beliefs not all of them involve mining! The changes to combat and the increased importants of frigates means that new pilotcs can actually play important roles in fleet engagements within a few weeks of starting the game. Agent missions have also been greatly enhanced since the start and a newbie with a bit of persistence and hardwork can get to a level 3 dropping implants within a couple of weeks. We had a starter in our corp who had earned 100 million isk within 3 weeks of starting the game (almost enough for a top tier battleship). There is a whole plethora of guides and advice on starting your characters, making money and PvP that were not around at the start and Corps generally are a lot wealthier and willing to help new pilots out. I can remember it took me months to get my first cruiser - New players now can be flying them in a couple of weeks.
I ASSOLUTLEY Agree with the above.
When we atarted at day one we had it 20X harder then the new players do now .
Originally posted by tck_tokyo The older players did have an advantage yes, but how is that not fair? In real life people that became active first in corporations or what not also have an advantage, as they always take on higher positions and have more autority, but there's many ways to get around the big corporations and have fun anyway.
How is this not fair? How is me being born with a million dollars and a free ticket to Stanford(Which I do have, Grandpa-ums chaired the current president of Stanford) fair? Obviously it is not. Similarly being "born" into the EVE cosmos at an earlier date is like being born with the advantages that I have. It's very very hard to make that up(I will earn 20,000 more then you in my first year of work, in addition to getting a better and more prestigous education.)
While I will agree that you can make it up with a lot of hard work, is it fair that you have to work so much harder than me to have the same or more things than me?
While it may be very realistic it is in no way "fair".
I do not play games so I can work in them to attain the same level of power that another player was practically given. I imagine that most others don't either. I don't want my games to be "realistic" in this aspect, I want my games to be fair in this aspect.
Originally posted by Condor A note should be taken about what 5150 says about minerals worth less than when the game started; this is NOT TRUE. When the game came out, the low end minerals were TRIT/PYE and they were about 1isk/4isk. Now, you can get up to 2isk for TRIT and up to 6isk for PYE.
Note, what the above player says is NOT TRUE. When the game came out there was Omber to be found in "safe" space, and it sold for 15.
Originally posted by Xira No care bear server. What more needs to be said? Game sucks.
The fact that everyone is on one server is what rocks about EVE, why the hell would you need a carebear server?? You've got a huge amount of people in empire space kicking it, and you've got a huge amount of people roaming around non-empire space trying to claim territory. There is no need for multiple servers, that would just blow goats.
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Originally posted by tck_tokyo The older players did have an advantage yes, but how is that not fair? In real life people that became active first in corporations or what not also have an advantage, as they always take on higher positions and have more autority, but there's many ways to get around the big corporations and have fun anyway.
How is this not fair? How is me being born with a million dollars and a free ticket to Stanford(Which I do have, Grandpa-ums chaired the current president of Stanford) fair? Obviously it is not. Similarly being "born" into the EVE cosmos at an earlier date is like being born with the advantages that I have. It's very very hard to make that up(I will earn 20,000 more then you in my first year of work, in addition to getting a better and more prestigous education.)
While I will agree that you can make it up with a lot of hard work, is it fair that you have to work so much harder than me to have the same or more things than me?
While it may be very realistic it is in no way "fair".
I do not play games so I can work in them to attain the same level of power that another player was practically given. I imagine that most others don't either. I don't want my games to be "realistic" in this aspect, I want my games to be fair in this aspect.
So you consider *buying EVE and starting* the same as *being born into a family completely by chance*? Wow that's incredibly retarded.
Anyway you're wrong, EVE players starting now get so incredibly much economical support it's not even funny compared to how much the newcomers at launch and that were in beta had to strive. The new ones are so spoiled that we can draw this comparison: it took me originally almost a year to get into a battleship as a freelancer, whilst someone that joined my corporation a while after got into one after something over a month, no special tactics or anything, it's just that we're also rich we're able to help him and other new players out so easily with ships, equipment, etc etc. Plus the entire community is devoted to getting a hold of the new players, the next generation of EVE players are important to corporations and so they're generous to the new players. And they've added new ways for new players to do stuff without jumping straight into PVP. Later on they choose to stay in that lifestyle or get out into 0.0
Regarding skill training: you will indeed never catch up fully with veteran players, but then you also chose when to begin playing. Never the less the skill system works in favor of newer players in one way as well, namely if a vet player trains multiple level 5 skills (which most do) in the same time that that person is training a level 5 skill a new player can train an incredibly large amount of level one skills, many level 2 skills, some level 3 skills or a few level 4 skills. And don't give me crap about "hard work" in EVE training a skill is a matter of buying the skill kit and then right clicking and "train skill". From there you can go sleep if you want and it'll still be training, which is the lovely factor which helps casual players, and avoids crazy non stop 24/7 gamers from spoiling the game with level grinding crap.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments. I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^ But that's just me.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments. I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^ But that's just me.
Originally posted by Condor A note should be taken about what 5150 says about minerals worth less than when the game started; this is NOT TRUE. When the game came out, the low end minerals were TRIT/PYE and they were about 1isk/4isk. Now, you can get up to 2isk for TRIT and up to 6isk for PYE.
Note, what the above player says is NOT TRUE. When the game came out there was Omber to be found in "safe" space, and it sold for 15.
Note, what Xira just commented on Condor's post is complete bullshit, Condor was right, check the history graph in the market.
As for "omber for 15" I wouldn't know and wouldn't really care since we're talking about minerals not ore, but while we're at it I might as well also add that your theory makes no sense: you're arguing that against condor that the value has gone up, except your argument is that before you could mine a specific ore in safe space (suggesting that that's not possible anymore). Obviously if the ore is no longer available in secure space it will begin to sell for more since less people have access to it.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments. I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^ But that's just me.
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I forgot to add here in this topic of mine that if any of you EVE players out there are freelancers or are in freelancing corporations, or just generally peaceful corps and you're possibly interested in joining an alliance, please feel free to contact me as there is one currently undergoing formation.
Be one of the first to join!
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This is my point of view on eve, and my story. 10 months ago i have played eve and made a corporation along with a friend, the corporation ran perfectly well and after 1 month i could easily afford a thorax blueprint original which i copied and sold the copies. i then realized that extremely large amounts of cash were to be gained mining minerals with megacyte (zydrine was only worth 1000 back then and morphite wasnt even out). those were the days when miner 2's were just released and they were 5 million, now they are 75k. anyway my corp and i went to a place in 0.0 but unfortunately mOo harrased us and killed us all. i lost the blueprint and all i had. i was extremely angry and i left the game. now i am back 8 months later and i started a new char. the only problem is it will take about a month for me to train the wanted skills but iu must say that although i know some players with 2 billion in their pocket i also know that they worked for it. i am going to start a business manufacturing wasp drones and should get quite a bit of profit. i joined an extremely nice and cooperative corp. some members there have even given me +3 implants. i would just like to say that eve is a game for clever people, not necesarily smart but ppl who are willing ot think before they shoot. and btw it only took me 1 week to get used to the changed game
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Agreed about the sword twice the size of the guy thing, and I also think it sucks that most of them are so focused around level grinding.. but I'm sorry I just love the thong on nightelf chicks in lineage 2, hehe. I'm not 18 though, not 13 so it might be for other reasons. I didn't know warhammer online folded, not too surprised though, I heard some interesting history about starcraft (that lovely rts from blizzard) and games workshop. What's dark and light?
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But that's just me.
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But that's just me.
I am a big PvP fan and PvP is the reason I play MMORGPs. The PvP in EVE is by far the best I have ever tried. At first sight it looks like you just lock target, activate your guns and then wait but it's so much deeper then that. It all comes down to skill. Not your skill points but your personal skill. I have been playing since release and my main character is pretty well skilled with 16 million skill points and all important skills at level 5 but that doesn't say jack sh** when in combat. I can't be owned by a 2 million skill point noob character if he knows what he's doing and I don't. I also have an account I started with the free 14 trial I got at this site. When my trial expired I had killed 4 cruisers solo all in my little Rifter frigate and they avaraged about 6 months. Also killed a battleship with a few trial account friends. (ok I admit I've probably died around 15 times myself but that is almost as fun as getting your pray) It was a blast and I am now paying for the account giving my main a needed break.
I saw some comments about how boring mining is and that you can't get anywhere without it. That is just plain WRONG. I have been playing since early beta and not once have I fitted a mining laser on my ship. I don't even think I have the Mining skill although I might have it at level 1 after character creation. I own almost every single ship type in the game. Just need 3 more battleships and the new special ops frigates (I'm a collector and the ships in EVE are so beautiful). My main ships fitting are all the best named modules and I have a head full of implants. Never have I touched a mining laser and never will I. Most of my ISK I made from watching the market and the trade channels. Buying what I know I can sell with a decent profit. The market is fully player driven so with a little skill and thought you can buy stuff cheap and sell it with a large profit without having to leave your station. For example when megacyte prices were going up like crazy I bought battleships for all my ISK from players that didn't notice the mega price rise and straight away sold them for almost 1.5x what I paid for them to players that knew that manufacturing cost had gone up.
I have been playing the game since I first got into the beta and I still spend so much time on it that it's almost sick. My girlfriend actually broke up with me cause she was second to EVE
I still play the game for hours each day (not a power player though, I don't do what is most profitable, I do what I think is fun) and I find that it gets more and more fun the more I play.
Also for those who state that they left cause of balancing issues then, yes there were balace problems in the start but right now every is as close to fully balanced as I can imagine. You should give it another try. Starting a new account is no problem as a frigate pilot can be just as valuable in combat as a battleship pilot.
Signature? I don't need no steeeenking signature!1!1!1
Signature? I don't need no steeeenking signature!1!1!1
The fact of the matter is, everything has problems so why is EVE going to be different? THere are bugs, problems with gameplay etc etc but that is going to happen after all it cannot be good for everyone. In EVE when you lose things you CAN lose big, but not if you have half a brain in your head. I have lost 5 battleships in the space of a week however they were all platinum insured and I have been able to recover fairly easily. If you don't want to lose a BS then insure it for 33M or dont take it out of safe space. I am the Vice CEO of a corporation based in 0.0 space. We know the locations of the best ores in the game and saying that new players to the game can have cruisers within weeks is false. We have several (5-10) of our first members were noobs, 3-4 days on they all now have a fighting cruiser, mining cruiser several haulers, a healthy bank balance and a high rank within our corp. Hiven corp is a huge success, we rocketed up to almost 30 members within 2 weeks then sadly some ****er with director abilities who has been playing the game a while booted lots of members out and stole close to 50M ISK worth of stuff. Do I stop the game, NO I just boot him out get the members to rejoin and do a bit more mining. In regard to making money mining IS undoubtedly the best way. In my ship mining Bistot I can make about 500 000 ISK a minute, mining Arkonor I can make closer to 1 million ISK a minute. So it is simple, mine for 20 minutes a day, haul for a further 20 and u got urself a BS/week. Our corporation, which is only a few weeks old already has well over 100M sitting in the bank with a further 70M in ore form, it will only get bigger. Who is to say you cannot bridge the gap? Of course you can. Strength in numbers I say. The thing with the big alliances monopolising the good ore, well that is why we set up Hiven, because we are sick of them. We intend to breed a master corporation which will one day fight against them in a guerilla type of war, yes it is already planned. I hate SA and CA and any other big alliance that holds onto territory for their members only, it sucks. It is however a game and it is a much funner game when you can focus your anger on someone and blame them for something and ultimately go to war with them. It would not be a game without pirates, assholes, bully corps, evil corps, greedy corps and any other baddy you can find, hell we need someone to kill! With Shiva tons of your problems stated will disappear, we will be building our own space stations with refineries, sentry guns, missile launchers, ECM devices, mines, forcefields etc etc. You can create research slots and factories at your own stations so there will no longer be a saturated research slot. People be patient with EVE, do not join SA or CA just because fighting them is harder, that is exactly what they want you to do, it is not a fair universe but neither is the real world, we must stand for what we know is right even if we are outgunned, outnumbered and trapped. I for one will certainly fight them and fight them and fight them to the ultimate bitter end. Hiven will be releaseing a web site in a few months along with forums etc, contact me in game (NE Weevil) for more information on our corp etc and what we stand for and give EVE the benefit it is due, the graphics are stunning, gameplay is slow but sophisticated, community is unbelievably good, corporations add a magnificant dimension to the game and over all it is a 10/10 game as simple as that.
Neo AKA NE Weevil (In EVE)
PS: Yes I have been drinking again.
Honor, Truth, Justice and Loyalty.
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Honor, Truth, Justice and Loyalty.
Since I came back about 3 mnoths ago, I've done very little mining (all I did was mine before I left). I think I mined for about a week, then went off to seek my fortune with the agent missions. Now I have a battleship, a couple of cruisers and a couple if indys. And I'm hooked all over again.
Protect me from what I want.
Protect me from what I want.
Thank you, I'm glad you think so
Safe sailing.. //Anjelle
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Anjelle [Freelancer Union]
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
As a complete newbie in mmorpg's
i have noticed there is a lot of disussion about eve-online. When you c the site and read the previews ity sounds like heaven on earth. But some player-reactions made me shiver. I think a lot of mmorpg players only can afford 1 mmorpg, just like me
. But after about six months i'm still in doubt about Eve-online. Is it possible 4 a newbie to get some power in the first month? If catching up in eve-online is so hard will there be any new players???? Eve-online looks almost perfect but why play an expensive form of doing the same thing over and over??
I really hope i'm mestaken
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May The Force Be With You.
May The Force Be With You.
DA_MadAce
visit: http://blastacor.tripod.com
When there's questions about a game and a Trial on offer, take advantage of it.
With Eve-Online, it's not about owning the character with the most skills etc. Eve online is not for Power-gamers. It is for Casual Gamers.
It is almost impossible to catch up to someone who has started prior to you when learning new skills. Uness they do not begin learning a new skill after the previous one for some time.
As a "noobie" for the 1st month you want to either focus on "industry skills" or "combat skiils". Attempt to do both and you wont be able to progress as rapidly as someone who focused on one. This is what sets the game apart. Although your character can learn every skill in the game, how you start out determines your progress later on. So it's all up to your style of play.
Most impotrantly find a well establish Player Run Corporation to get you started. There are thousands (litterly) that are always looking for new players to the game, willing to help you out.
Need any further help DA_madAce let me know.
- Malkavian
"When you find youself sinking into Madness, dive" - Malkavian Proverb
- MMORPG.COM Staff -
Forum Stalker
Malkavian@mmorpg.com
"When you find yourself sinking into Madness, dive"
Also getting plugged into a corp is essential when staying for the long haul. If you plan on playing solo, you will not last very long. Space is very big out there....and very lonely with no friends and in a NPC noob corp.
Getting plugged into a good corp will be good in that you'll meet great friends, have scheduled mining runs, scheduled (meaning we all get together on every Sunday for example) and do Pirate runs, etc.
There's so many possibilities that its endless.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
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Anjelle [Freelancer Union]
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
As Malkavian notes, you should try the trial, it's free after all. One important thing you have to notice before you get in there however (which most people notice too late) is that the people you join with in game will make or break the game for you 95% of the time. Make sure that if you dislike the game it's because the game in itself is not for you, and that it's not just because you didn't enjoy what you did because the corporation you were with didn't allow access to enough features or what not. It's a good idea to read up on all the features of EVE (as well as the ones coming up with Shiva) on the official website, www.eve-online.com since this will give you an idea of what you can look forward to when you get more skills and become more experienced in the wonderful galaxy of EVE-Online.
Note: Most people writing 'horrid' reviews on EVE-Online are one of a few sort of people:
1) Have no idea what they're talking about type A) played the game for a while and got really unlucky and for some reason failed to notice right things at the right time and just got aggravated and went and raved about how bad it was on some forums to take out their anger.
2) Have no idea what they're talking about type
these are the ones that give reviews with lots of weakly based opinions, ones that they can't back up enough. Luckily these ones are often torn apart by me or other people like me.
3) Veterans of EVE who had a horrible experience such as the "lose all of the corp original blueprints" type of people. These ones are incredibly angry and take it out on the game instead of the person that stole them, since this person is long gone. From here they try to think of small things that annoy them a little about EVE and make those factors sound like disasters.
There are numerous other ones but you get the idea.. Try the game out yourself and see if it's for you. If something seems so wrong to you that it just can't be right, check in here to make sure that you're not just missing out on some option change (such as these chumps whining about how the text is too small therefor say that the game is completely awful, I guess they didn't play long enough to notice that they can switch the text size).
Some people just say the game isn't for them, but those usually aren't the ones that write horrid reviews, they write fair ones.
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Anjelle [Freelancer Union]
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
Nothing new to say just bumping this up so people see it
Argean...... Caldari
Rebel Mining Guild
Eve-Online
Eve-Online
I'm running 2 accounts again now, so it can't be that bad.
I see the reviews from people that have played for maybe a couple of hours saying "this game sucks" "it's the most boring game I ever played" and "there's nothing to do but mine" and I think to myself "if only they had actually done the tutorial, or at least got some more info on the game before diving in blind" there is so much depth to Eve that you can't get a good idea of what the game is about in a couple of hours, in fact, I think that a 14 day trial will only allow you to scratch the surface.
Protect me from what I want.
Protect me from what I want.
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Anjelle [Freelancer Union]
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
Just a note on my personal experience with EVE
I joined the free trial about ten days ago, with little idea how to play the game, once I got started and realized I knew nothing I went and looked for info online and found plenty of good info, mostly on the official EVE forums but also on many fansites.
Theres so much to choose from and when I see something cool I want to try it so I've been somewhat haphazard in the skills I've learned. I've run missions, mined (yes it can be boring but you can make a lot of isk(money) in a very short time if you do it right), fought pirates, bought and sold items, refined and have earned well over 2 million isk in my short time playing. The only areas I haven't tried are PvP, Manufacturing, and Research. I have played solo only so far because I want to get a feel for the game (and see if I was going to stay) before I make a commitment to a player run corp.
I hate to say it but I'm hooked, I'm signing up after the trial runs out. The biggest compliment I can give this game is it reminds me of Elite, one of my favorite computer games of all time, I think that may be why there are a lot of older gamers in EVE, as Elite is an "old school" game. Another reason for the older crowd may be the fact that you need an attention span longer than a music video to really get into the game.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is anyone that calls it boring simply isn't trying very hard, has a very short attention span, or is more suited to the mainstream hack and slash style of mmorpg's
Thanks for the trial MMORPG.COM, I love my new addiction.
I'm happy you saw what many others didn't. By the way I don't mean to make this a recruitment ad, but if you are interested in joining a corporation but not being forced into mining ops and forced to do work for the corporation, but want to have the ability to make your own decisions and do things in your own pace, then you might be interested in the corporation I'm in. It's called Freelancer Union, and the corporation serves as a medium for you to meet other freelancers and have the ability to work with them if you want to do group activities (that sounded childish but you know what I mean). If you're interested in PVP for when you've trained yourself up a bit mroe it's also the perfect place for you, as I run a bounty hunting squadron that might interest you. Generally just a fun community of people reside in my corporation, I think you might enjoy joining
Think about it anyway, if you want to contact me ingame my name is "Anjelle".
Either way, good luck in EVE. Safe sailing.
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Anjelle [Freelancer Union]
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
I ASSOLUTLEY Agree with the above.
When we atarted at day one we had it 20X harder then the new players do now .
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How is this not fair? How is me being born with a million dollars and a free ticket to Stanford(Which I do have, Grandpa-ums chaired the current president of Stanford) fair? Obviously it is not. Similarly being "born" into the EVE cosmos at an earlier date is like being born with the advantages that I have. It's very very hard to make that up(I will earn 20,000 more then you in my first year of work, in addition to getting a better and more prestigous education.)
While I will agree that you can make it up with a lot of hard work, is it fair that you have to work so much harder than me to have the same or more things than me?
While it may be very realistic it is in no way "fair".
I do not play games so I can work in them to attain the same level of power that another player was practically given. I imagine that most others don't either. I don't want my games to be "realistic" in this aspect, I want my games to be fair in this aspect.
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Anjelle [Freelancer Union]
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
How is this not fair? How is me being born with a million dollars and a free ticket to Stanford(Which I do have, Grandpa-ums chaired the current president of Stanford) fair? Obviously it is not. Similarly being "born" into the EVE cosmos at an earlier date is like being born with the advantages that I have. It's very very hard to make that up(I will earn 20,000 more then you in my first year of work, in addition to getting a better and more prestigous education.)
While I will agree that you can make it up with a lot of hard work, is it fair that you have to work so much harder than me to have the same or more things than me?
While it may be very realistic it is in no way "fair".
I do not play games so I can work in them to attain the same level of power that another player was practically given. I imagine that most others don't either. I don't want my games to be "realistic" in this aspect, I want my games to be fair in this aspect.
So you consider *buying EVE and starting* the same as *being born into a family completely by chance*? Wow that's incredibly retarded.
Anyway you're wrong, EVE players starting now get so incredibly much economical support it's not even funny compared to how much the newcomers at launch and that were in beta had to strive. The new ones are so spoiled that we can draw this comparison: it took me originally almost a year to get into a battleship as a freelancer, whilst someone that joined my corporation a while after got into one after something over a month, no special tactics or anything, it's just that we're also rich we're able to help him and other new players out so easily with ships, equipment, etc etc. Plus the entire community is devoted to getting a hold of the new players, the next generation of EVE players are important to corporations and so they're generous to the new players. And they've added new ways for new players to do stuff without jumping straight into PVP. Later on they choose to stay in that lifestyle or get out into 0.0
Regarding skill training: you will indeed never catch up fully with veteran players, but then you also chose when to begin playing. Never the less the skill system works in favor of newer players in one way as well, namely if a vet player trains multiple level 5 skills (which most do) in the same time that that person is training a level 5 skill a new player can train an incredibly large amount of level one skills, many level 2 skills, some level 3 skills or a few level 4 skills. And don't give me crap about "hard work" in EVE training a skill is a matter of buying the skill kit and then right clicking and "train skill". From there you can go sleep if you want and it'll still be training, which is the lovely factor which helps casual players, and avoids crazy non stop 24/7 gamers from spoiling the game with level grinding crap.
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Anjelle [Freelancer Union]
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
Note, what Xira just commented on Condor's post is complete bullshit, Condor was right, check the history graph in the market.
As for "omber for 15" I wouldn't know and wouldn't really care since we're talking about minerals not ore, but while we're at it I might as well also add that your theory makes no sense: you're arguing that against condor that the value has gone up, except your argument is that before you could mine a specific ore in safe space (suggesting that that's not possible anymore). Obviously if the ore is no longer available in secure space it will begin to sell for more since less people have access to it.
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Anjelle [Freelancer Union]
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
I forgot to add here in this topic of mine that if any of you EVE players out there are freelancers or are in freelancing corporations, or just generally peaceful corps and you're possibly interested in joining an alliance, please feel free to contact me as there is one currently undergoing formation.
Be one of the first to join!
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
This is my point of view on eve, and my story. 10 months ago i have played eve and made a corporation along with a friend, the corporation ran perfectly well and after 1 month i could easily afford a thorax blueprint original which i copied and sold the copies. i then realized that extremely large amounts of cash were to be gained mining minerals with megacyte (zydrine was only worth 1000 back then and morphite wasnt even out). those were the days when miner 2's were just released and they were 5 million, now they are 75k. anyway my corp and i went to a place in 0.0 but unfortunately mOo harrased us and killed us all. i lost the blueprint and all i had. i was extremely angry and i left the game. now i am back 8 months later and i started a new char. the only problem is it will take about a month for me to train the wanted skills but iu must say that although i know some players with 2 billion in their pocket i also know that they worked for it. i am going to start a business manufacturing wasp drones and should get quite a bit of profit. i joined an extremely nice and cooperative corp. some members there have even given me +3 implants. i would just like to say that eve is a game for clever people, not necesarily smart but ppl who are willing ot think before they shoot. and btw it only took me 1 week to get used to the changed game