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  • alyndalealyndale Member UncommonPosts: 936
    Originally posted by Sovrath


     
    Originally posted by Vasquez21


    Ok, so after long time I was back in Lineage II.
    I said to me that I will try it, I remembered it like a realy fun game which I used to play with many of my friends it was great time.

    But I also have in mind that it was long ago, and from that time I haved played many other MMO. Ok so I install the game, and... it was disaster.
    First thing.

    Creating character, they add one new race that's good, but where is problem with add some more customization to creating proces. You can change just few things in each profile... you can choose profession, and then face you got 3(!!!) of them... and hair + color. Nothing change from when I was playing about 5 years ago, I can't see any problem with adding some, but well it's detail.
    Second thing.
    Missions. First mission was to find few people, I couldn't find option to see them on map, or probably there is no option like that, so I have to go trough all buildings to find the right persons. But it's detail again.
    Second Mission. Kill 50 wolves
    Third Mission. Kill 50 of something.
    Fourth Mission. Find 30 items = Kill 50 wolves...
    Fifth Mission. Kill 50 of something.
    Third Thing
    Bots... oh my god... I don't know how it is posible to pay for a game to people which are don't care about clients...
    I have seen about 20 bots in starting town. This's sick.



    Ok, well, first things first.

     

    This is a 4 year old game which started developement 3 years prior. It is made in the style of your typical Asian grinder with the redeeming characteristic that it is less "junky" feeling than many of those games.

    Secondly, this is not a mission based, quest based game. There are quests but quite frankly they are very utilitarian. I rarely if ever do any quests as there is absolutely no point other than 1st class change, 2nd class change, etc.

    As far as bots, please know that L2 has very few instances. Because of this you are just going to see them. In some places there are very few (light elf village on Hindemith doesn't have many at all including dark elf village. Dwarf town tends to have quite a bit. I challenge you to point to a AAA title that doesn't have bots or RMT. WoW, where I've rarely if ever seen bots has many servers where one can indugle in RMT. So they are always out there. No getting around that.

    Thirdly, no on hangs around new player towns. Just doesn't happen. This game is about clan and alliance and power. So, level up as quickly as you can, get out of the new player area, go to Dion, meet people and join a clan or clan academy.

    This is a pvp game. It does have a strong grindy PvE mechanic but as I said, this is based on it being an Asian grinder. it is what it is.

    As far as customization, again... asian grinder. How they have dealt with customization is to add items in the game to add to your character. A variety of masks, Horns, many different types of head wear, circlets, etc.

    If you want to judge this game based on Asian Grinder pvp games it quite frankly is the best for many reasons. If you want to judge it based on games like Lord of the Rings, Everquest II, etc... games that are more about quests and customization then it is not going to really stand up.

    you have to evaluate it for what it is and the genre it resides in.

    As far as who plays it? Many people play it. Especially Euro players. There are so many Euro players that they are adding a new Euro server in April.

    As far as the North American playerbase, they are streteched over many servers, with Bartz being the most crowded.

    So there you are.

    edit: oh, and also know that the people who do play this game a very die hard and loyal. They have dealth with the issues that the game has and managed to make the game flourish in its own way. I can't say that it doesn't have problems. But I've yet to go to any game forum where there aren't peopel who don't complain about something.

     

    Well stated Sovrath.  By the way, I noticed the date on this particular post.  If you are online today and revisit this thread, have you joined the merged server with Hindermith and Gustin, by chance?

    If so, possibly we might chat.  With luck, I should make an appearance on the newly merged server, Phoenix this evening!

     

    If so, hope to chat with you there!

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    Just gimme some truth
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,976
    Originally posted by alyndale

    Originally posted by Sovrath


     
    Originally posted by Vasquez21


    Ok, so after long time I was back in Lineage II.
    I said to me that I will try it, I remembered it like a realy fun game which I used to play with many of my friends it was great time.

    But I also have in mind that it was long ago, and from that time I haved played many other MMO. Ok so I install the game, and... it was disaster.
    First thing.

    Creating character, they add one new race that's good, but where is problem with add some more customization to creating proces. You can change just few things in each profile... you can choose profession, and then face you got 3(!!!) of them... and hair + color. Nothing change from when I was playing about 5 years ago, I can't see any problem with adding some, but well it's detail.
    Second thing.
    Missions. First mission was to find few people, I couldn't find option to see them on map, or probably there is no option like that, so I have to go trough all buildings to find the right persons. But it's detail again.
    Second Mission. Kill 50 wolves
    Third Mission. Kill 50 of something.
    Fourth Mission. Find 30 items = Kill 50 wolves...
    Fifth Mission. Kill 50 of something.
    Third Thing
    Bots... oh my god... I don't know how it is posible to pay for a game to people which are don't care about clients...
    I have seen about 20 bots in starting town. This's sick.



    Ok, well, first things first.

     

    This is a 4 year old game which started developement 3 years prior. It is made in the style of your typical Asian grinder with the redeeming characteristic that it is less "junky" feeling than many of those games.

    Secondly, this is not a mission based, quest based game. There are quests but quite frankly they are very utilitarian. I rarely if ever do any quests as there is absolutely no point other than 1st class change, 2nd class change, etc.

    As far as bots, please know that L2 has very few instances. Because of this you are just going to see them. In some places there are very few (light elf village on Hindemith doesn't have many at all including dark elf village. Dwarf town tends to have quite a bit. I challenge you to point to a AAA title that doesn't have bots or RMT. WoW, where I've rarely if ever seen bots has many servers where one can indugle in RMT. So they are always out there. No getting around that.

    Thirdly, no on hangs around new player towns. Just doesn't happen. This game is about clan and alliance and power. So, level up as quickly as you can, get out of the new player area, go to Dion, meet people and join a clan or clan academy.

    This is a pvp game. It does have a strong grindy PvE mechanic but as I said, this is based on it being an Asian grinder. it is what it is.

    As far as customization, again... asian grinder. How they have dealt with customization is to add items in the game to add to your character. A variety of masks, Horns, many different types of head wear, circlets, etc.

    If you want to judge this game based on Asian Grinder pvp games it quite frankly is the best for many reasons. If you want to judge it based on games like Lord of the Rings, Everquest II, etc... games that are more about quests and customization then it is not going to really stand up.

    you have to evaluate it for what it is and the genre it resides in.

    As far as who plays it? Many people play it. Especially Euro players. There are so many Euro players that they are adding a new Euro server in April.

    As far as the North American playerbase, they are streteched over many servers, with Bartz being the most crowded.

    So there you are.

    edit: oh, and also know that the people who do play this game a very die hard and loyal. They have dealth with the issues that the game has and managed to make the game flourish in its own way. I can't say that it doesn't have problems. But I've yet to go to any game forum where there aren't peopel who don't complain about something.

     

    Well stated Sovrath.  By the way, I noticed the date on this particular post.  If you are online today and revisit this thread, have you joined the merged server with Hindermith and Gustin, by chance?

    If so, possibly we might chat.  With luck, I should make an appearance on the newly merged server, Phoenix this evening!

     

    If so, hope to chat with you there!



     

    Hey there. Yes, I'm on Phoenix which is the Gustin/Hindemith merged server. Sadly I won't be on today as I will be out with friends tonight. Thanks for saying hi though.

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