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How to keep yourself motivated after +30 lvl

Hi,

I've one char lvl 34 and I'm losing the strive to log in, i.e. log in look around and back out.  I've dabbled into the other professions and the only profession from the few that are available is the hunter which interests me but  I already have at lvl 34.  I've the feeling already now to have explored the whole map (which I actually did, its easy to run out mobs.  The few dungeons I've visited were ok, but pretty small. 

Grinding traits is ok, but eventually I dont have the feeling they have a big impact at all.

I've started to craft (farming and pipeweed) but somehow it just seems broken and useless more or less. 

RP is great, but you can do that in any other game.

What do you guys do?

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  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851

    Join a large guild on your server, there is nothing more motivated then 100+ people logged in and ready to level every hour of the day. I went joined the largest guild on my server and had a blast, got involved with everyone and everyone was just great any dicks we picked up would get kicked out fast. Once a bunch of us got 48+ we started raids and the fun kicked in, but fell quick do to turbine only have one raid dungeon, now I'm told there is 2 or 3 which would make it more enjoyable.

    But ya if you like the game and how it plays thats the best answer I can give you, it surprising how much a well build community can pull you in, you login everyday just to check up on everyone and say hey.

    Best of luck.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939

    You have to adopt a different mentality. It's a casual game so play it casually.

    I played quite a bit up to lvl 35. Then stopped for a while. Now recently, I've been playing a lot more and have more interest. Probably because I did a huge 4 hr. stint to complete the Tomb of Elendil.

    I loved the story element at the end and though i'm not sure the quest itself was fun, it was satisfying to actually complete it.

    So what I'm saying is you need to be playing for the right reasons, for your reasons, and not just to play something.

    You have to be your own motivation. And quite frankly if you can't bring yourself to self motivate, then join an active guild.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060

    Originally posted by Tautology


    Hi,
    I've one char lvl 34 and I'm losing the strive to log in, i.e. log in look around and back out.  I've dabbled into the other professions and the only profession from the few that are available is the hunter which interests me but  I already have at lvl 34.  I've the feeling already now to have explored the whole map (which I actually did, its easy to run out mobs.  The few dungeons I've visited were ok, but pretty small. 
    Grinding traits is ok, but eventually I dont have the feeling they have a big impact at all.
    I've started to craft (farming and pipeweed) but somehow it just seems broken and useless more or less. 
    RP is great, but you can do that in any other game.
    What do you guys do?

    I'm not alone I see. Your experience mirrored mine back in May of last year.  I was around level 30 and suddenly lost all interest in playing.  I chalked it up to Fantasy MMO burnout and have been playing EVE ever since. 

    Does sound like you've been playing solo for the most part, and I agree with the other person, LotRO is a social game.  For a short time my guild was growing and we had several musicians.  We actually sponsored several concerts where other players would come show off their musical talents.  Lots of folks came and I had a very good time being part of it.  Sadly, those were turbulent times and it all fell apart rather quickly. 

     

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  • TalynTalyn Member UncommonPosts: 587

    Finding a good kinship/guild is important in any MMO, LOTRO is no exception.

    Solo is solo is solo, doesn't matter what game, fantasy/sci-fi, high-fantasy (everything) or low-fantasy (LOTRO) it's all fairly boring. The one thing that keeps me going while solo is having that awesome kinship to chat with.

    Grouping on the other hand, LOTRO seems to do an incredible job with group dynamics and content and I've been enjoying myself more here than in WoW and other previous MMO's.

    But yeah, I'd suggest playing more casually, don't get caught up in the WoW-like "go! go! go! must.reach.level cap!" mentality because (and this is true of ALL new games) there's only so much end-game material. LOTRO is 11 months old. WoW and EQ2 are each 3.5 years old. The age:content ratio should be obvious, so take your time and enjoy the journey.

    That's been my mileage, yours may vary...

  • TautologyTautology Member Posts: 188

    Thanks for the helpful replies.

    I think I am the "most" casual player, I've been since launch with LOTRO and my highest char is still only lvl 34. Ok, I quit for 3 months, but still, I think I'm even too casual. Most people who I knew ingame outlevelled me so fast that I couldnt share the content. So yeah was soloing most of the time.

  • DonnieBrascoDonnieBrasco Member Posts: 1,757

    Originally posted by Tautology


    Thanks for the helpful replies.
    I think I am the "most" casual player, I've been since launch with LOTRO and my highest char is still only lvl 34. Ok, I quit for 3 months, but still, I think I'm even too casual. Most people who I knew ingame outlevelled me so fast that I couldnt share the content. So yeah was soloing most of the time.
    Well, can't speak for you as don't know what server you're on, but I'm on Snowbourn, and I have to say that joining PUG's is a surprisingly pleasant experience there.

    I have to say, maybe one out of 20-25 times did I meet any kidz/assholes in any PUG's, and even in those cases they were usually kickly disposed of.

    So my advice is: check the LFF channegl, and don't be afraid to join any PUG's, you might be nicely surprised :)

    (also, Snowbourn is always packed with players at really all levels from 6-50, wherever I go there are people running around everywhere :)

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  • TalynTalyn Member UncommonPosts: 587


    Originally posted by Tautology
    Thanks for the helpful replies.
    I think I am the "most" casual player, I've been since launch with LOTRO and my highest char is still only lvl 34.

    Having a Casual Competition are we? In that case, I've been playing since late beta and I just reached 36 last night! However, since I got the Lifetime deal I tend to take breaks from the game, and knowing there's only so much to do at 50 only helps with the decision to take a break.

    PUG's? The only place to fear PUG's is WoW. I've had exactly ONE poor experience with PUG's in every other game I've played or currently play. LOTRO was not that game. I find the in-game community here pretty fun, mature and helpful overall and I've had great times in every PUG.

    That said, you mentioned you're in the mid-30's. Everyone used to (still does?) complain about the mid-20's. In the 20's you have the Lone Lands and North Downs to choose from. In the 30's you have the rest of Lone Lands, including Garth Agarwen, the rest of North Downs, Evendim, and you can start edging into the Trollshaws and the southern edges of Angmar in the upper 30's so at least there are plenty of choices and way too many quests to be able to do them all without out-leveling them.

    Like DonnieBrasco said, use the LFF, join PUG's and have a blast. Use the LFF flag too (uncheck the Anonymous so we can see you!). Too many players are Anonymous and don't use the LFF tool (which is getting a major overhaul in the next Book).

  • dragonacedragonace Member UncommonPosts: 1,185

     

    Originally posted by Tautology


    Hi,
    I've one char lvl 34 and I'm losing the strive to log in, i.e. log in look around and back out.  I've dabbled into the other professions and the only profession from the few that are available is the hunter which interests me but  I already have at lvl 34.  I've the feeling already now to have explored the whole map (which I actually did, its easy to run out mobs.  The few dungeons I've visited were ok, but pretty small. 
    Grinding traits is ok, but eventually I dont have the feeling they have a big impact at all.
    I've started to craft (farming and pipeweed) but somehow it just seems broken and useless more or less. 
    RP is great, but you can do that in any other game.
    What do you guys do?

    I agree with what most of the others have posted.  A good kinship makes all the difference.

     

     

    I will disagree with one point you made.  "explored the whole map"  

     

    Really?  At 34 you've explored all of Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, and Angmar?  That's quite a feat.  How did you get past the trolls and giants in the Giant Halls area in Misty Mountains?  Those buggers even give my level 50 Minstrel a hard time.

     

    Then there is Goblin Town in Misty Mountains as well.  Not exactly a "small dungeon" by any stretch.  Did you make it down to the Goblin King?  Or into Gollum's cave?  Congrats... another brave feat for level 34. 

     

    How far did you progress in the Epic Book quests?  Since you've explored all the maps I'm assuming you made it past at least Book 6  (again a great feat for level 34) ... since without completing that... how did you explore Angmar?   That line of statues with the dread they give off kills pretty fast. 

     

    Did you make it up the the Elven Stronghold in the Northern parts of Angmar?   I think it's called the Himbar area.  Again, congrats... that is an amazing feat at level 34.  That run into Carn Dum must have been a real bugger at that level too... I know I still  die occasionally even at level 50. 

     

    Oh well,  I'm just kinda sucky at MMOs I guess.  I've got multiple high-end characters and I still haven't seen everything yet.  Perhaps with this next character I'm leveling I might finally finish the rest of the areas that I haven't visited. 

  • TechleoTechleo Member Posts: 1,984

      I finally found a good guild and its been a blast ever since. Most of us end up spending half our time out questing and the other half out training new comers. Starting about level 20 everyone eventually gets a little bud who comes asking advice. Then again what really keeps me going is gems... YUP.. Gems I have one of the worlds most insane collections of Saphires and rubies and such youve ever seen. I plan on totally collapsing the market for them in a month or two. I already had threats from a rather nasty merchant when I forced him to half his prices at the Ah. priceless!

  • jdwestjdwest Member Posts: 13

    It's virtually impossible for you to see and experience the entire game at 34, there's so much more to do as one poster mentioned, and I agree.

    But as others have mentioned being social is key here.  You'll burn yourself out of just about any game if you devote the time it takes to get to 34 and do it all by yourself.

    Think about playing with some friends or joining a guild as that's the best way to bring life into any game, but especially in LOTRO due to its design.

    I know that I personally have quit games that were fun simply because my friends/family that play were playing something different.  That's a key part in my and many others enjoyment of MMO's.

    Boldar

  • DonavynDonavyn Member Posts: 71

    I guess that I'm one of the more fortunate ones that actually get to game with his wife, the only conflict that we have is picking what set of characters to play that night.

    The reason that I say this is because our main characters hit 39 not too long ago, and we're quite happy with the progress that we've made with them.  Our secondary characters are 26, next is level 20, and level 10.  The thing is that we enjoy the time we spend together and discovering new and exciting things to do while in-game.

    So maybe my suggestion is to find someone to share the experience with, maybe not to the extent of marriage of 'seeking out a large kinship', but look for those people who are looking for others to do the same thing that you may want to do.  I'd like to believe that I can't be the only lucky one out there. =)

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  • Bedlem3342Bedlem3342 Member UncommonPosts: 252


    Originally posted by dragonace

    Originally posted by Tautology Hi,
    I've one char lvl 34 and I'm losing the strive to log in, i.e. log in look around and back out. I've dabbled into the other professions and the only profession from the few that are available is the hunter which interests me but I already have at lvl 34. I've the feeling already now to have explored the whole map (which I actually did, its easy to run out mobs. The few dungeons I've visited were ok, but pretty small.
    Grinding traits is ok, but eventually I dont have the feeling they have a big impact at all.
    I've started to craft (farming and pipeweed) but somehow it just seems broken and useless more or less.
    RP is great, but you can do that in any other game.
    What do you guys do?
    I agree with what most of the others have posted. A good kinship makes all the difference.


    I will disagree with one point you made. "explored the whole map"

    Really? At 34 you've explored all of Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, and Angmar? That's quite a feat. How did you get past the trolls and giants in the Giant Halls area in Misty Mountains? Those buggers even give my level 50 Minstrel a hard time.

    Then there is Goblin Town in Misty Mountains as well. Not exactly a "small dungeon" by any stretch. Did you make it down to the Goblin King? Or into Gollum's cave? Congrats... another brave feat for level 34.

    How far did you progress in the Epic Book quests? Since you've explored all the maps I'm assuming you made it past at least Book 6 (again a great feat for level 34) ... since without completing that... how did you explore Angmar? That line of statues with the dread they give off kills pretty fast.

    Did you make it up the the Elven Stronghold in the Northern parts of Angmar? I think it's called the Himbar area. Again, congrats... that is an amazing feat at level 34. That run into Carn Dum must have been a real bugger at that level too... I know I still die occasionally even at level 50.

    Oh well, I'm just kinda sucky at MMOs I guess. I've got multiple high-end characters and I still haven't seen everything yet. Perhaps with this next character I'm leveling I might finally finish the rest of the areas that I haven't visited.


    LOL


    Adding one other tiny detail tautology,

    I assume you soloed throog, and storvagun? GRATZ!

    And always remember to take lots of poison pots when you try to solo "zaudra" at lvl 34 you just might need them.

  • YeeboYeebo Member UncommonPosts: 1,361

     

    Originally posted by Tautology


    Hi,
    I've one char lvl 34 and I'm losing the strive to log in, i.e. log in look around and back out.  I've dabbled into the other professions and the only profession from the few that are available is the hunter which interests me but  I already have at lvl 34.  I've the feeling already now to have explored the whole map (which I actually did, its easy to run out mobs.  The few dungeons I've visited were ok, but pretty small. 
    Grinding traits is ok, but eventually I dont have the feeling they have a big impact at all.
    I've started to craft (farming and pipeweed) but somehow it just seems broken and useless more or less. 
    RP is great, but you can do that in any other game.
    What do you guys do?

    Whenever I get bored in a given zone or get clogged up with group quests, that means it's time to move on.  There is no reason to stick it out in one area  you've done to death, there is always somewhere else you could be levelling (I assume that this is what you meant when you said you've explored the whole map...since at 34 about half the game is still closed off to you).  At 34 you can be starting on quests in the very northern shire / southern part of Evindim.  The zone is quite pretty and I found it to be a refreshing change of pace after Lone Lands and North Downs.

     

    Also, I would highly recommend joining a good KS that is willing to help you work through book quests.  Hit the KS section of the forums for your server at the official LoTRO site and see if any "casual questing" guilds are recruiting.  You are missing out on some of the best encounters that the game offers if you skip them.

    I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.

  • TautologyTautology Member Posts: 188
    Originally posted by Bedlem3342


     

    Originally posted by dragonace




    Originally posted by Tautology
     
    Hi,

    I've one char lvl 34 and I'm losing the strive to log in, i.e. log in look around and back out. I've dabbled into the other professions and the only profession from the few that are available is the hunter which interests me but I already have at lvl 34. I've the feeling already now to have explored the whole map (which I actually did, its easy to run out mobs. The few dungeons I've visited were ok, but pretty small.

    Grinding traits is ok, but eventually I dont have the feeling they have a big impact at all.

    I've started to craft (farming and pipeweed) but somehow it just seems broken and useless more or less.

    RP is great, but you can do that in any other game.

    What do you guys do?



    I agree with what most of the others have posted. A good kinship makes all the difference.





    I will disagree with one point you made. "explored the whole map"



    Really? At 34 you've explored all of Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, and Angmar? That's quite a feat. How did you get past the trolls and giants in the Giant Halls area in Misty Mountains? Those buggers even give my level 50 Minstrel a hard time.



    Then there is Goblin Town in Misty Mountains as well. Not exactly a "small dungeon" by any stretch. Did you make it down to the Goblin King? Or into Gollum's cave? Congrats... another brave feat for level 34.



    How far did you progress in the Epic Book quests? Since you've explored all the maps I'm assuming you made it past at least Book 6 (again a great feat for level 34) ... since without completing that... how did you explore Angmar? That line of statues with the dread they give off kills pretty fast.



    Did you make it up the the Elven Stronghold in the Northern parts of Angmar? I think it's called the Himbar area. Again, congrats... that is an amazing feat at level 34. That run into Carn Dum must have been a real bugger at that level too... I know I still die occasionally even at level 50.



    Oh well, I'm just kinda sucky at MMOs I guess. I've got multiple high-end characters and I still haven't seen everything yet. Perhaps with this next character I'm leveling I might finally finish the rest of the areas that I haven't visited.

     



    LOL



    Adding one other tiny detail tautology,

    I assume you soloed throog, and storvagun? GRATZ!

    And always remember to take lots of poison pots when you try to solo "zaudra" at lvl 34 you just might need them.

    To clarify, of course I havent been to every inch of the game, but keep in mind you can eventually run out mobs in this game very easily.  In addition , its the feeling to know what to expect around the next "corner".  You click onto the map and see exactly, ok, at this pace I'll be at the end of the map really soon. It's just the "unknown" missing perhaps. Its difficult to pin-point.

  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

    I have the exact same feeling with LOTRO. I played into 30something, had a blast until then and suddenly POOF all my interest vanished. I still cant exactly say why. Its a sense of been there done that, like there is little really new to see and do. Partially its because the plethora of boars and wolves and oh look MORE boars and wolves!

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  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

     

    Originally posted by Tautology

    Originally posted by Bedlem3342


     

    Originally posted by dragonace




    Originally posted by Tautology
     
    Hi,

    I've one char lvl 34 and I'm losing the strive to log in, i.e. log in look around and back out. I've dabbled into the other professions and the only profession from the few that are available is the hunter which interests me but I already have at lvl 34. I've the feeling already now to have explored the whole map (which I actually did, its easy to run out mobs. The few dungeons I've visited were ok, but pretty small.

    Grinding traits is ok, but eventually I dont have the feeling they have a big impact at all.

    I've started to craft (farming and pipeweed) but somehow it just seems broken and useless more or less.

    RP is great, but you can do that in any other game.

    What do you guys do?

     
    I agree with what most of the others have posted. A good kinship makes all the difference.





    I will disagree with one point you made. "explored the whole map"



    Really? At 34 you've explored all of Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, and Angmar? That's quite a feat. How did you get past the trolls and giants in the Giant Halls area in Misty Mountains? Those buggers even give my level 50 Minstrel a hard time.



    Then there is Goblin Town in Misty Mountains as well. Not exactly a "small dungeon" by any stretch. Did you make it down to the Goblin King? Or into Gollum's cave? Congrats... another brave feat for level 34.



    How far did you progress in the Epic Book quests? Since you've explored all the maps I'm assuming you made it past at least Book 6 (again a great feat for level 34) ... since without completing that... how did you explore Angmar? That line of statues with the dread they give off kills pretty fast.



    Did you make it up the the Elven Stronghold in the Northern parts of Angmar? I think it's called the Himbar area. Again, congrats... that is an amazing feat at level 34. That run into Carn Dum must have been a real bugger at that level too... I know I still die occasionally even at level 50.



    Oh well, I'm just kinda sucky at MMOs I guess. I've got multiple high-end characters and I still haven't seen everything yet. Perhaps with this next character I'm leveling I might finally finish the rest of the areas that I haven't visited.

    To clarify, of course I havent been to every inch of the game, but keep in mind you can eventually run out mobs in this game very easily.  In addition , its the feeling to know what to expect around the next "corner".  You click onto the map and see exactly, ok, at this pace I'll be at the end of the map really soon. It's just the "unknown" missing perhaps. Its difficult to pin-point.



    Well, though he does it in very facetious (and humorous) terms, Dragon does a good job of summing it up.

     To work off his statements though..

    I wouldn't call what you've been doing necessarily experiencing the content - that you might have uncovered more of the map doesn't mean anything. All that means is you've gotten a *preview* of the areas.

    Getting a glimpse of content is a far cry different than experiencing it toe-to-toe (or hoof or whatever). Successfully fleeing from mobs and successfully fighting them are two different things; as are uncovering an area of the map and successfully completing the content in that area.

     To put it another way: You don't complete quests and story arcs, nor defeat the tougher battles along the way by merely being a fleet-footed tourist.



    And really, how much "exploring" can you really be doing when you're either looking out for aggro or running for your life from it?

    I like to explore as well - including into very high level areas I have no business being in. The difference, perhaps, is in my mindset. When I'm running through these areas - and/or running away from the mobs in the area - my thinking is "wow, I can't wait 'til I'm actually hunting/questing in here". It's a sense of "what's to come", not "been there, seen that".

     

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
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