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WoW: As a Victim of Counter-Populism
jcries
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To me, bashing wow is no different from bashing anything else popular.
For some people, it comes, consciously or unconsciously, from the ultimate need to be distinct from masses. Whenever masses stick to a trend, a group of people is always there to draw their difference from those by indicating the fact that they are not band-wagoning and plus, worst of all, bashing those people who stick with the trend. They enjoy the very feeling that they are different. It does not really matter whether their humiliation does count for anybody. We are talking about a sudden rise in oneself by pushing others below.
And what is more, according to them, their difference implies as if they are expert on that issue, or in other words, as if they have a more delicate taste on that particular thing. Here the "thing" is mmorpg. Yet to me their yellings are no different from the ones coming out of the mouth of some metal-fans against popular music. I see the fanatics of a music type bashing fans of the popular type, just because as if popular one is always supposed to be inferior even if it is not. Indeed, same shit different asshole.
Briefly, domesticate your ego people. The mmorpg you play does not really contribute to your so called "unique" identity, even though you suppose it does.
Edit in Advance: Addressee of my words is only the ones who do not hesitate to screw wow-gamers. And of course there are some other who are calm, but still think in this way. The point is they at least respect people and their choices. Maturity is the gold.
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Well said lemming, Well Said!
We are NOT lemmings....although there is the distinct possibility that we've been mass MC'd by a gaggle of priests held hostage in the basement of Blizzard's HQ....yeah, I think that's more likely.
This might apply to some of the WoW bashers, but certainly not to all. I didn't quit WoW after 6 months because i needed to feel "different from the masses". I left, and bashed the game, because it was shallow, repetitive and completely un-original from my standing point. A BIG disapointment for a game with that much human ressources and money.
So trying to generalize WoW bashers like people in search for identity, is just like saying that every WoW players is dumb and without any gaming culture. It of course apply in some cases, but you can't paint your wall with that same color using this theory.
I fought WoW for a while, because i think it's a very bad example for the gaming industry. Just like i fought McDonald junk food. I didn't fought because it was popular, i fought it because i believed it was crap and somewhat a dangerous trend.
I have decided to to move on since, and instead of bashing those things, to instead be "pro" the concepts that i truly believe in. (Wether games, food or music) I think it's important to fight mediocrity in every area of life, but the good news is that you can do it with a creative approach instead of a destructive one. As a developper myself, I do think my energy is better spent developing a good game, rather then bashing bad ones.
Creativity : The ability to transcend traditional ideas, rules, patterns, relationships, or the like, and to create meaningful new ideas, forms, methods or interpretations; using originality, progressiveness, or imagination.
WoW is just a bad game. I played it since release on and off. Came back at expansion beat all content quit again. It is not a challenging game, and the fact that they are constantly stealing other games content is laughable. If people who have never tried it hate it or logged on for 1 day and off have no room to talk. I can tell you that the imbalance between pvp, pve equipment and how easy raid content is with the imbalance of classes is silly.
It is very easy to see why WoW garners the subs it does and I have no problem with WoW as itself, but for the fact that it has rubbed off like brown streaks is annoying. The companies releasing games without content because they want to emulate WoW's garbage is what pisses me off. Yes WoW makes money, but it is a bad game and if a company would be original they would find the people who are looking for a real game.
Currently UO free servers are keeping me going for the closest to even pvp there is, and if I wanted raids I would go to EQ2.
Whats more laughable is that you played a bad game on and off for at least 2 years=) So you normally play bad games for that long? Have to question the opinion of someone who willingly plays a game they aren't enjoying. Screwed up? Could be=)
What is the point of threads like these?
WoW isn't a "victim" of anything. WoW is the undeniable victor. Why should anyone care what its antagonists have to say?
@ Seen: I was talking about the people who were extremely aggressive against wow gamers - "screw" part in my first post - not the ones who were "innocently" criticizing the the game itself. I am pretty sure that you never, but never, called somebody "sucker" just because he or she was playing wow.
My humble attempt was to shed light on the motivation behind those people's senseless attitudes, not to make a huge generalization for all wow-quiters. Sorry, if my post did make any of you think such a thing.
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Whats more laughable is that you played a bad game on and off for at least 2 years=) So you normally play bad games for that long? Have to question the opinion of someone who willingly plays a game they aren't enjoying. Screwed up? Could be=)
I do play a lot of bad games. Unfortunately when the times require it I will even play f2p games. It is just what my guild does and what my friends play. I go back to diablo2 off and on because of friends not because of ground breaking leveling/pvping/or gameplay it is due to that. Also when I am asked to do reviews of games for a zine it is necessary to go back and refresh my content. There are very few MMo's that I have not played for atleast a month. Hell I will probly be forced to play a lot of terrible games in the future, and I go back to bad games if it has new content hoping for a face lift.
I have gone back to EQ 3 times, EQ2 2 times, Ultima Online 5 times, WoW 3 times, FFXI 4 times, EVE 1 time, SWG 4 times, Guild Wars I believe twice haven't gone back for the real expansion, City of Heroes 2 times, City of Villains 1 time, I have played Fury, Archlord, Anarchy online, Lineage 1&2, Ragnarok, Hellgate:London (Though not really an mmo) was for action game review, Tabula Rasa (beta, and only 2 weeks in), and the major upset Vanguard.
I will gladly admit I play bad games, and what constitutes a bad game is really what you should be asking not questioning someone who says they play them. I enjoy games to a point regardless of the content some times (It just depends how long it holds my interest or an article is done) though I will never try second life.
I will gladly go through everything I have issues with Blizzard from stealing other games ideas marketing as original to similar scripted content over and over. If WotLK delivers on stuff they have been promising since the release of the game it may have salvation factors, but with the current release of one hero class that isn't even what the original idea is and limited siege weapons have yet to be proven.
Good day.
Whats more laughable is that you played a bad game on and off for at least 2 years=) So you normally play bad games for that long? Have to question the opinion of someone who willingly plays a game they aren't enjoying. Screwed up? Could be=)
I do play a lot of bad games. Unfortunately when the times require it I will even play f2p games. It is just what my guild does and what my friends play. I go back to diablo2 off and on because of friends not because of ground breaking leveling/pvping/or gameplay it is due to that. Also when I am asked to do reviews of games for a zine it is necessary to go back and refresh my content. There are very few MMo's that I have not played for atleast a month. Hell I will probly be forced to play a lot of terrible games in the future, and I go back to bad games if it has new content hoping for a face lift.
I have gone back to EQ 3 times, EQ2 2 times, Ultima Online 5 times, WoW 3 times, FFXI 4 times, EVE 1 time, SWG 4 times, Guild Wars I believe twice haven't gone back for the real expansion, City of Heroes 2 times, City of Villains 1 time, I have played Fury, Archlord, Anarchy online, Lineage 1&2, Ragnarok, Hellgate:London (Though not really an mmo) was for action game review, Tabula Rasa (beta, and only 2 weeks in), and the major upset Vanguard.
I will gladly admit I play bad games, and what constitutes a bad game is really what you should be asking not questioning someone who says they play them. I enjoy games to a point regardless of the content some times (It just depends how long it holds my interest or an article is done) though I will never try second life.
I will gladly go through everything I have issues with Blizzard from stealing other games ideas marketing as original to similar scripted content over and over. If WotLK delivers on stuff they have been promising since the release of the game it may have salvation factors, but with the current release of one hero class that isn't even what the original idea is and limited siege weapons have yet to be proven.
Good day.
Care to share a few links to some of your reviews? You made a point of stating that you are a reviewer, I'd be interested to see some reviews you have done.
What makes WoW so bad and your game so good? Have people actually played your game and said it was good? Did everyone that played your game say it was good? Or perhaps half the people that played it only played for 2 hours then said "this game sucks".
people have said this before, but I think the WoW-bashing may stem from WoW not actually being all that different to all the other mmos out there-just being a little friendlier and having a name and gameplay style everyone recognizes.
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Unfortunately no. I did check out the site, but I'm not going to subscribe at this time.
I'll concede that there are some other good MMO's about on the same level of quality that WoW is, however there are far more that are of inferior quality. All you have to do is try a variety of the MMO's out there and it's clear that WoW is a superior product to most of them. Buggy code, poor content, poor user interface, lack of support, dull graphics, clunky gameplay, etc are just a few of the problems I've encountered with other MMO's. So while WoW may not be all that different, there ARE noticeable differences and that's what makes all the difference in the world. All other things being equal (like cost for instance) when given a choice, people are going to choose the one that gives the best overall experience.
WoW bashing for me isn't to be unique i could care less. It is the fact that i have put alot of time into game and i dislike alot of choices. I just posted this befor not long ago that i like the game itself i don't liek the choices the devs make. I want more content, more in game storylines, something other then just another run through just another instance we will memorize every pull. One thing i likes was FF11 how they made a story line and to get gear from it you went throught he story line and ended up with some nice stuff. Also there are cutscenes in the game that made you feel like you where doing something other then just another kill. Also i do play WoW i have played or a long time and what i have noticed it how some things everyone agrees on as bad never changes and some things people could care less about get the most changes. WoW bashing isn't always just bashing WoW, sometimes it is critism to the masses hoping something gets fixed because if you just follow along and never say anything how can you expect for anything to change. I enjoy the game for most part but that does not mean i think everything in game is right or it can not have many many improvements. People take offence to games they play when soemone says it sucks but remember everyone can have there own openion and everyone should. If your here just to yell and say i hate it give good reasons and if enough peopel agree maybe they will fix it.
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