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What would make you CANCEL YOUR PRE-ORDER!!..?

pirrgpirrg Member Posts: 1,443
in Age of Conan: Unchained

Lets have a purely hypothetical discussion. Lets say open beta is here, you log in and discover the following things.

Lets say, that the vast majority of the enviorments in age of conan were narrow valleys with invisible walls on each side, where the terrain is randomly generated and npcs randomly placed, would you still pre-order it?

Lets say that youre greeted by a seemingly neverending loading screen(even though you have an high end computer) at frequent intervalls, making it feel like guild wars 1.5, would you still pre-order it?

Lets say that even on an extremely beefy rig, you had to turn down the graphics so low that it looks more like anarchy online then what you have seen in screenshots and videos, would you still pre-order it?

Lets say that sieges became bland and repetitive, not to mention seemingly pointless after a few go's, would you still pre-order it?

What would make you cancel your pre-order?

 

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  • BetaguyBetaguy Member UncommonPosts: 2,629

    It is already ruined for me from due to invisible walls.

    "The King and the Pawn return to the same box at the end of the game"

  • Katashi-kunKatashi-kun Member Posts: 517

    Lets say I already have and know all that, and never pre-ordered! 

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  • eugameugam Member UncommonPosts: 984
    Originally posted by pirrg


    Lets have a purely hypothetical discussion. Lets say open beta is here, you log in and discover the following things.
    Lets say, that the vast majority of the enviorments in age of conan were narrow valleys with invisible walls on each side, where the terrain is randomly generated and npcs randomly placed, would you still pre-order it?
     
    Depends. If its fun to play the narrow valley. Your description is rather vague. Some walls are annoying, others not.
     
    Lets say that youre greeted by a seemingly neverending loading screen(even though you have an high end computer) at frequent intervalls, making it feel like guild wars 1.5, would you still pre-order it?
     
    I dont care about it. Played monkey island, comming on six floppy discs. The game was and is still awesome. I also have enough tech. knowledge to know whats doable and what not.
     
    Lets say that even on an extremely beefy rig, you had to turn down the graphics so low that it looks more like anarchy online then what you have seen in screenshots and videos, would you still pre-order it?
     
    Monkey island was made of pixel graphics. It ruled and still rules. And i am not scared at all with a 4600EE x2 and a 1900GT. I am a genius when it comes to configure a game. Little bit less shadow here, a bit less distance there.. voila decent FPS.


    Lets say that sieges became bland and repetitive, not to mention seemingly pointless after a few go's, would you still pre-order it?
     
    Pointless ? Like in MMO's are pointless ? Its a game :D
     
    What would make you cancel your pre-order?
     Nothing. I never pre-order. My first and last pre-order was WoW because i bought the hype of my friends.  I ll just buy AoC and i am quite sure i ll have fun for 6 months at least :)



     

  • DeadJesterDeadJester Member Posts: 499

    That many players are hateing it in beta and say it is not ready to launch. and thay need to push it back to give players half the stuff they said they would have in game. or if some one said this is the next Vanguard 2.0

  • HairysunHairysun Member UncommonPosts: 1,059

      Pre-order?  Who would actually be silly enough to pre-order a MMORPG?  Having been burnt on more than one occasion excludes me from such silliness.  For those that havn't learned that lesson yet.....sigh.....*shakes head and walks away.

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  • IkonicIkonic Member UncommonPosts: 310

    What made me cancel my pre-order?

     

     

    Beta

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Why would you pre-order in the first place?

    Best wait for a trial before committing yourself to anything.

  • IijsIijs Member Posts: 457

    So the beta testers want to keep playing for free. Is that the real problem here? Will Funcom, or any other dev in the biz, actually make beta testers happy enough to make a deadline?

    You really want the beta to run another 3 years?

  • eosyneeosyne Member UncommonPosts: 392

    so this game really sucks?

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  • DignaDigna Member UncommonPosts: 1,994

    Never pre-order. I did with Dark and Light and seriously regretted it. Every other game I've played since 1994 that I Beta'ed and liked, I bought in the end. (And when I beta I do beta to 'test' and find bugs not just to sample the game). Pre-orders are just a way to get 'early' money for the software developer.

    Most  occur at the end of a quarter to show 'extra' revenue.

  • alakramalakram Member UncommonPosts: 2,301

    I preordered Vanguard. I learned the lesson. I'll never ever preorder a game again. But to answer your post, If I had the game preordered and I joined an Open beta, well, just the first thing you say will drop me out, for sure. In fact if Im not a preorderer and I join an Open beta or "public timed show before release" and I dont think its awesome, and I mean AWESOME, then, Ill buy Rise of Kunark and continue in my EQ2, wich is as of now one of the best games in market. So yeah, any of this things you mention will make me "cance pre-order" or simply "not buy" the game.

    Anyway, hope for AoC the best cose it looks really cool.



  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Actually the beta testers are as eager as the rest of the people to see the game finished. No matter what they do at this point, it will get wiped when the game is released.

  • TraviztyTravizty Member Posts: 114

    Nothing would make me cancel my pre order, who would be dumb enough to pay $100 for a game they weren't sure they wanted

    Pre orders are not for the faint of heart, but if you have done your research and feel confident in the game then go for it. In my opinion even if the game is good its still not worth $100 plus a monthly sub (if you take into consideration how much money they make off us the gamers in monthly subs they should be paying us $100) but thats a whole other forum post.

    500,000 people x $15 = $750.000 usd A MONTH

    Its actualy pretty sad when you think about it, Blizzard is one of the leading companies right now as far as monthly subs goes making somewhere around $130,000,000 A MONTH from 1 of they're titles and the best they can do is World of Warcraft...

    Don't confuse a players ability, with a class being Over Powered.

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  • logoherelogohere Member Posts: 77

    Only thing that would make me cancel my pre-order would be if my computer blew up. If for some reason there are a lot of bugs in openBETA that is understandable because its BETA and not a released product. And all MMOs have bad launches, you just have to hope for the best. I have a lot of faith in Funcom. Anarchy Online was and still is a very good MMO that has been around for a long time.

  • ghoul31ghoul31 Member Posts: 1,955

    I don't think anything will make me cancel my preorder at this point. From the videos i have seen, this game will be fun for at least a little while.

    I don't mind lag and bugs too much, as long as the gamplay is fun.

     

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    Extreme situations are the only things.  This would be the first MMO that I have pre-ordered so if there is a lesson to learn, then AoC may present me with that opportunity.  Otherwise, I have done a significant amount of research and waiting.

    So if my computer blew up or the FunCom HQ was bombed.

  • blackf00tblackf00t Member Posts: 84

    Originally posted by Digna


    Never pre-order. I did with Dark and Light and seriously regretted it. Every other game I've played since 1994 that I Beta'ed and liked, I bought in the end. (And when I beta I do beta to 'test' and find bugs not just to sample the game). Pre-orders are just a way to get 'early' money for the software developer.
    Most  occur at the end of a quarter to show 'extra' revenue.
    i don't know how the whole pre-order thing works at other stores but at the gamestop that i work in no one makes money off of preorders the money that you put down goes directly towards the game.  its more in place so we can be sure you buy the game at our store.

    you dont pay anything extra.

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by blackf00t


     
    Originally posted by Digna


    Never pre-order. I did with Dark and Light and seriously regretted it. Every other game I've played since 1994 that I Beta'ed and liked, I bought in the end. (And when I beta I do beta to 'test' and find bugs not just to sample the game). Pre-orders are just a way to get 'early' money for the software developer.
    Most  occur at the end of a quarter to show 'extra' revenue.
    i don't know how the whole pre-order thing works at other stores but at the gamestop that i work in no one makes money off of preorders the money that you put down goes directly towards the game.  its more in place so we can be sure you buy the game at our store.

     

    you dont pay anything extra.

    you just contradicted yourself. Preorders are used to be money makers prior to game launch by the developers. You are just ensuring by preordering they get a small amount of money prior to launch and then the rest at launch, so even if you cancel the game, devs still get $5 per pre order (or whatever the amount is)

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  • blackf00tblackf00t Member Posts: 84
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by blackf00t


     
    Originally posted by Digna


    Never pre-order. I did with Dark and Light and seriously regretted it. Every other game I've played since 1994 that I Beta'ed and liked, I bought in the end. (And when I beta I do beta to 'test' and find bugs not just to sample the game). Pre-orders are just a way to get 'early' money for the software developer.
    Most  occur at the end of a quarter to show 'extra' revenue.
    i don't know how the whole pre-order thing works at other stores but at the gamestop that i work in no one makes money off of preorders the money that you put down goes directly towards the game.  its more in place so we can be sure you buy the game at our store.

     

    you dont pay anything extra.

    you just contradicted yourself. Preorders are used to be money makers prior to game launch by the developers. You are just ensuring by preordering they get a small amount of money prior to launch and then the rest at launch, so even if you cancel the game, devs still get $5 per pre order (or whatever the amount is)

    ok (I'm partialy wrong it happens) but . . . you dont pay any thing extra, i dont see the problem with that.

  • AlamiasAlamias Member Posts: 20

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by blackf00t


     
    Originally posted by Digna


    Never pre-order. I did with Dark and Light and seriously regretted it. Every other game I've played since 1994 that I Beta'ed and liked, I bought in the end. (And when I beta I do beta to 'test' and find bugs not just to sample the game). Pre-orders are just a way to get 'early' money for the software developer.
    Most  occur at the end of a quarter to show 'extra' revenue.
    i don't know how the whole pre-order thing works at other stores but at the gamestop that i work in no one makes money off of preorders the money that you put down goes directly towards the game.  its more in place so we can be sure you buy the game at our store.

     

    you dont pay anything extra.

    you just contradicted yourself. Preorders are used to be money makers prior to game launch by the developers. You are just ensuring by preordering they get a small amount of money prior to launch and then the rest at launch, so even if you cancel the game, devs still get $5 per pre order (or whatever the amount is)

    If that is the case, then why can I go in and change my mind and put my $5 on another game?  I have quite a few times spent $5 on a game, got into a beta (DDO for example), realized I didn't like it, then swapped my $5 for something else.

    I don't see the big deal or any risk in a pre order.  All you are doing is handing over $5 to make sure you get a copy the day it comes out.

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    in a way...no...but if even if you cancel your preorder, you lose the preorder fee. So preorders make the company money (usually) no matter what, and you lose money to them no matter how horrific the game is when you play the open beta, or just lose interest, or love it.

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by Alamias


     
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by blackf00t


     
    Originally posted by Digna


    Never pre-order. I did with Dark and Light and seriously regretted it. Every other game I've played since 1994 that I Beta'ed and liked, I bought in the end. (And when I beta I do beta to 'test' and find bugs not just to sample the game). Pre-orders are just a way to get 'early' money for the software developer.
    Most  occur at the end of a quarter to show 'extra' revenue.
    i don't know how the whole pre-order thing works at other stores but at the gamestop that i work in no one makes money off of preorders the money that you put down goes directly towards the game.  its more in place so we can be sure you buy the game at our store.

     

    you dont pay anything extra.

    you just contradicted yourself. Preorders are used to be money makers prior to game launch by the developers. You are just ensuring by preordering they get a small amount of money prior to launch and then the rest at launch, so even if you cancel the game, devs still get $5 per pre order (or whatever the amount is)

     

    If that is the case, then why can I go in and change my mind and put my $5 on another game?  I have quite a few times spent $5 on a game, got into a beta (DDO for example), realized I didn't like it, then swapped my $5 for something else.

    I don't see the big deal or any risk in a pre order.  All you are doing is handing over $5 to make sure you get a copy the day it comes out.

    I have never seen that in all my years of gaming, where you can take your $5 or whatever the initial fee is and transfer it. Once you pay the 5 bucks its done. While i agree $5 is nothing to cry over...look at games like Dark and Light, which promised the world, and never delivered. say if even 10k people preordered the game, the company still made 50k off preorders.

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  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by miagisan


    you just contradicted yourself. Preorders are used to be money makers prior to game launch by the developers. You are just ensuring by preordering they get a small amount of money prior to launch and then the rest at launch, so even if you cancel the game, devs still get $5 per pre order (or whatever the amount is)



    That is not true. When you pre-order your giving the store 5 bucks. They determine by the popularity of pre-orders to how much they will stock into there stores. So they know to order one more over what they will order for the stores sales. Devs dont get none of that money until it hits the stores.

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  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by miagisan


    I have never seen that in all my years of gaming, where you can take your $5 or whatever the initial fee is and transfer it. Once you pay the 5 bucks its done. While i agree $5 is nothing to cry over...look at games like Dark and Light, which promised the world, and never delivered. say if even 10k people preordered the game, the company still made 50k off preorders.



    Just try  it out at gamestop it will work out for you i did it for neverwinter nights 2. I preodered it but didnt get the funds to pay for it so i transfered the money for FF12 because i was buying FF12 at the time.

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Originally posted by miagisan


    you just contradicted yourself. Preorders are used to be money makers prior to game launch by the developers. You are just ensuring by preordering they get a small amount of money prior to launch and then the rest at launch, so even if you cancel the game, devs still get $5 per pre order (or whatever the amount is)



    That is not true. When you pre-order your giving the store 5 bucks. They determine by the popularity of pre-orders to how much they will stock into there stores. So they know to order one more over what they will order for the stores sales. Devs dont get none of that money until it hits the stores.

    Last i heard the devs got the preorder money, least thats what a dev i knew told me way back in the day. Could have mistaken though

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