I believe Darkfall is actually some kind of social experiment to study addiction and Aragon100 is one of the doctor on the team paid to hype the game on these forums. I believe the screenshots are fake and the game is not being developed. I may be wrong, but after following this game for couple of years i think i'm right.
Well, it even got a person to make an account just to post his speculations. And who knows, our lives can be a illusion... A matrix... We're must find those pills
I agree, one of the most amazing things about DF is how many people create alt accounts or new accounts to either support or slam DF.
I've seen no other game/forum that displays this phenomenon quite so often, and these new posters are usually fairly single threaded in their interest. They will only post about DF.
It sometimes lasts over time as well, their account might be a year or three old, yet they still only drop on the forums once in a while just to either prop up or bash DF.
Certainly an interesting social phenomenon, which makes discussing it more fun.
Me, I think they are trying to develop a game according to the promises they made. I just don't believe they can keep them, no matter how long they take to make it.
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I believe Darkfall is actually some kind of social experiment to study addiction and Aragon100 is one of the doctor on the team paid to hype the game on these forums. I believe the screenshots are fake and the game is not being developed. I may be wrong, but after following this game for couple of years i think i'm right.
I believe Darkfall is actually some kind of social experiment to study addiction and Aragon100 is one of the doctor on the team paid to hype the game on these forums. I believe the screenshots are fake and the game is not being developed. I may be wrong, but after following this game for couple of years i think i'm right.
Well, it even got a person to make an account just to post his speculations. And who knows, our lives can be a illusion... A matrix... We're must find those pills
I agree, one of the most amazing things about DF is how many people create alt accounts or new accounts to either support or slam DF.
I've seen no other game/forum that displays this phenomenon quite so often, and these new posters are usually fairly single threaded in their interest. They will only post about DF.
It sometimes lasts over time as well, their account might be a year or three old, yet they still only drop on the forums once in a while just to either prop up or bash DF.
Certainly an interesting social phenomenon, which makes discussing it more fun.
Me, I think they are trying to develop a game according to the promises they made. I just don't believe they can keep them, no matter how long they take to make it.
they already habe kept there promises excpt for like 1 or 2 features that dotn need to be in at release. If there telling the truth we will find out here very soonish.
I have my sources. But i couldnt prove it if i wanted to so its sucks that ic ant but meh. call me a liar if you want to but it will make you look like a fool later
I believe Darkfall is actually some kind of social experiment to study addiction and Aragon100 is one of the doctor on the team paid to hype the game on these forums. I believe the screenshots are fake and the game is not being developed. I may be wrong, but after following this game for couple of years i think i'm right.
Well, it even got a person to make an account just to post his speculations. And who knows, our lives can be a illusion... A matrix... We're must find those pills
I agree, one of the most amazing things about DF is how many people create alt accounts or new accounts to either support or slam DF.
I've seen no other game/forum that displays this phenomenon quite so often, and these new posters are usually fairly single threaded in their interest. They will only post about DF.
It sometimes lasts over time as well, their account might be a year or three old, yet they still only drop on the forums once in a while just to either prop up or bash DF.
Certainly an interesting social phenomenon, which makes discussing it more fun.
Me, I think they are trying to develop a game according to the promises they made. I just don't believe they can keep them, no matter how long they take to make it.
they already habe kept there promises excpt for like 1 or 2 features that dotn need to be in at release. If there telling the truth we will find out here very soonish.
I have my sources. But i couldnt prove it if i wanted to so its sucks that ic ant but meh. call me a liar if you want to but it will make you look like a fool later
Bro, you didn't even know that Darkfall was not their first or only project. So, give the "I have knowledge you don't" bit a rest. You've already proven multiple times you don't know squat about half the things you claim to. Man up, and just admit you're as in the dark as everyone else is. You have noone to impress on here, so why the charade? I mean, do you feel the need for self-validation that bad?
Wish was not a hoax. It didn`t meet the expectations (kinda like Dark and Light but not as bad eventho D&L got released O.o).
Mourning was simply very far from being ready and the devs were simply not as good as they thought. When you played that game you saw that all they care was trying to make itlook pretty. The game mechanics were very reudimentary even in the end. But yet again against common belief Mourning was not a hoax. I played it. If they wanted to cash in they could`ve done that without programming a half finished game.
Mourning was a failure with devsw that had trouble connecting to reality.
From the information we have about Darkfall it could be anything from total failure to the genres next big hit.
One thing is for sure. It wont be a WOW killer. It has a chance to deliver for a niche PVP market just like EVE does and could be successful there.
All we need to do is wait and see. If it is a hoax or vaporware wh do you care? Move on and laugh at those fools.
If it delivers we finally get a fantasy PVP MMO that is worth being played.
Personally i hope they can pull it off. I am quite sure that it will be bug ridden for quite a while even if it deliveres considerign it is their first MMO.
I believe Darkfall is actually some kind of social experiment to study addiction and Aragon100 is one of the doctor on the team paid to hype the game on these forums. I believe the screenshots are fake and the game is not being developed. I may be wrong, but after following this game for couple of years i think i'm right.
Well, it even got a person to make an account just to post his speculations. And who knows, our lives can be a illusion... A matrix... We're must find those pills
I agree, one of the most amazing things about DF is how many people create alt accounts or new accounts to either support or slam DF.
I've seen no other game/forum that displays this phenomenon quite so often, and these new posters are usually fairly single threaded in their interest. They will only post about DF.
It sometimes lasts over time as well, their account might be a year or three old, yet they still only drop on the forums once in a while just to either prop up or bash DF.
Certainly an interesting social phenomenon, which makes discussing it more fun.
Me, I think they are trying to develop a game according to the promises they made. I just don't believe they can keep them, no matter how long they take to make it.
they already habe kept there promises excpt for like 1 or 2 features that dotn need to be in at release. If there telling the truth we will find out here very soonish.
I have my sources. But i couldnt prove it if i wanted to so its sucks that ic ant but meh. call me a liar if you want to but it will make you look like a fool later
Bro, you didn't even know that Darkfall was not their first or only project. So, give the "I have knowledge you don't" bit a rest. You've already proven multiple times you don't know squat about half the things you claim to. Man up, and just admit you're as in the dark as everyone else is. You have noone to impress on here, so why the charade? I mean, do you feel the need for self-validation that bad?
Zorvan I looked at a old quote I said my mistake. See why dont you get your heads out of your asses and have an open mind for once my source is just about the game only and thats it and i havent talked to him in a while because he wasnt willing to give any more info than what i got so .I have no clue why your guys have to be such assholes and start point fingers and call everyone a liar.
Like i said i hope to god that someone punches oyu in your mouths when the devs have been honest with us but your to damn busy ppointing fingers and making up your fabricated lies to see that.
i hope i get banned because im tired of waisting my time with the losers that cant keep the mouths shut until they are certian of whats actully happening but have to make up fibrcated lies to make thems elf looks right.
This is what im tlaking baotu fibricated lies.
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Money from advertising. This game is a fake and will never be a virtual reality.
Who the fuck cares if they showed us or not it doesnt meant shit if there telling the truth but like i said I know it will go beta this year. ill be back and im going to throw it in your face. See ya in the future
Actually, you have stated in 2 seperate threads that you don't "know" anything and the best you've got is an "educated guess". An educated guess is still just a guess, so please, give it a rest.
Also, please keep your language to yourself. There is no need to curse here.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
WEll it semes to me thats what they need is a bit of flaming to get them to relize we are getting pissed off over there asumptions.
plues yea i said educated guess because i didnt want to say i have sources because ic ant provide proof of it. well i havent been in contact witht he source and i dont know abotu beta but i do know where the game stands in how complete it is.
the beta thing its pretty obvious it will happen this year
WEll it semes to me thats what they need is a bit of flaming to get them to relize we are getting pissed off over there asumptions. plues yea i said educated guess because i didnt want to say i have sources because ic ant provide proof of it. well i havent been in contact witht he source and i dont know abotu beta but i do know where the game stands in how complete it is. the beta thing its pretty obvious it will happen this year
The reason people call you out on your statements is because you DON'T give info on your source and there is no possible way to verify it, so until such a time as you can and it can be verified it's all BS. Now, I'm not calling you a liar, and I'm not saying that you don't in fact have a source. What I am saying is that this is the internet where people can be whoever they want and say whatever they want without having to actually prove anything or it actually having to be true.
I could tell you that I am an astronaut, and that I know for a fact that the moon is made of alien sperm, and there really is no way for you to prove or disprove what I am saying. Do you see the issue?
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
WEll it semes to me thats what they need is a bit of flaming to get them to relize we are getting pissed off over there asumptions. plues yea i said educated guess because i didnt want to say i have sources because ic ant provide proof of it. well i havent been in contact witht he source and i dont know abotu beta but i do know where the game stands in how complete it is. the beta thing its pretty obvious it will happen this year
The reason people call you out on your statements is because you DON'T give info on your source and there is no possible way to verify it, so until such a time as you can and it can be verified it's all BS. Now, I'm not calling you a liar, and I'm not saying that you don't in fact have a source. What I am saying is that this is the internet where people can be whoever they want and say whatever they want without having to actually prove anything or it actually having to be true.
I could tell you that I am an astronaut, and that I know for a fact that the moon is made of alien sperm, and there really is no way for you to prove or disprove what I am saying. Do you see the issue?
Doesnt that go for the trolls 2? i guess not. abotu that astronant thing i have no right to call you a liar because i cant provide proof your actully lieing the govermeant can be covering it up you know.
My proof will come later and like i said ill be back
My source was one of the mythic devs. They may have had a copy for publishing reasons.
In all honesty what will you all do when the devs have been honest. do you realyl want to take that chance to make your selfs look stupid?
WEll it semes to me thats what they need is a bit of flaming to get them to relize we are getting pissed off over there asumptions. plues yea i said educated guess because i didnt want to say i have sources because ic ant provide proof of it. well i havent been in contact witht he source and i dont know abotu beta but i do know where the game stands in how complete it is. the beta thing its pretty obvious it will happen this year
The reason people call you out on your statements is because you DON'T give info on your source and there is no possible way to verify it, so until such a time as you can and it can be verified it's all BS. Now, I'm not calling you a liar, and I'm not saying that you don't in fact have a source. What I am saying is that this is the internet where people can be whoever they want and say whatever they want without having to actually prove anything or it actually having to be true.
I could tell you that I am an astronaut, and that I know for a fact that the moon is made of alien sperm, and there really is no way for you to prove or disprove what I am saying. Do you see the issue?
Doesnt that go for the trolls 2? i guess not. abotu that astronant thing i have no right to call you a liar because i cant provide proof your actully lieing the govermeant can be covering it up you know.
My proof will come later and like i said ill be back
My source was one of the mythic devs.
Of course, it goes for everyone right now. No one knows where this game stands right now, so everyone could be wrong or right at this point. Which is why I stand firmly in the middle. I know that adventurine has just as much a chance of creating this game as anyone else does, but I also know that they've been in development for a long long time. So I stand in the middle of the road on it because I don't know if either side is right.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
WEll it semes to me thats what they need is a bit of flaming to get them to relize we are getting pissed off over there asumptions. plues yea i said educated guess because i didnt want to say i have sources because ic ant provide proof of it. well i havent been in contact witht he source and i dont know abotu beta but i do know where the game stands in how complete it is. the beta thing its pretty obvious it will happen this year
The reason people call you out on your statements is because you DON'T give info on your source and there is no possible way to verify it, so until such a time as you can and it can be verified it's all BS. Now, I'm not calling you a liar, and I'm not saying that you don't in fact have a source. What I am saying is that this is the internet where people can be whoever they want and say whatever they want without having to actually prove anything or it actually having to be true.
I could tell you that I am an astronaut, and that I know for a fact that the moon is made of alien sperm, and there really is no way for you to prove or disprove what I am saying. Do you see the issue?
Doesnt that go for the trolls 2? i guess not. abotu that astronant thing i have no right to call you a liar because i cant provide proof your actully lieing the govermeant can be covering it up you know.
My proof will come later and like i said ill be back
My source was one of the mythic devs.
Of course, it goes for everyone right now. No one knows where this game stands right now, so everyone could be wrong or right at this point. Which is why I stand firmly in the middle. I know that adventurine has just as much a chance of creating this game as anyone else does, but I also know that they've been in development for a long long time. So I stand in the middle of the road on it because I don't know if either side is right.
Do you not relize. To get out an almost complete game for beta willt ake much longer than the standered three for years. With these features. if they want to stick to there promisses it needed to be in dev this long. and they needed to save money at the same time so they dont run out and have to cancel the product hence why they dont advertise or have a pr departmeant or even go to the gaming conventions.
The problem with theses features is they are not achievable by other companies. When you have Blizzard or the age of conan's company with hundreds of devs and coders working 40+ hours a week and tell us they cant, with their technology, gives us half of what Darkfall is promising. You really wonder if Darkfall is fake.
The problem with theses features is they are not achievable by other companies. When you have Blizzard or the age of conan's company with hundreds of devs and coders working 40+ hours a week and tell us they cant, with their technology, gives us half of what Darkfall is promising. You really wonder if Darkfall is fake.
Why can't they do it? I think they don't see a moneytrain within the sandboxtheme.
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The problem with theses features is they are not achievable by other companies. When you have Blizzard or the age of conan's company with hundreds of devs and coders working 40+ hours a week and tell us they cant, with their technology, gives us half of what Darkfall is promising. You really wonder if Darkfall is fake.
Why can't they do it? I think they don't see a moneytrain within the sandboxtheme.
Thats the sad truth of the MMO genre now a days. Most devs like to take the safe route, and make money. Sandbox games have fallen to the wayside since the release of the more casual friendly games. I miss the old days of make your own adventure style gaming.
Heres hoping we can start seeing more open ended games again. Hopefully starting with Darkfall.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
The problem with theses features is they are not achievable by other companies. When you have Blizzard or the age of conan's company with hundreds of devs and coders working 40+ hours a week and tell us they cant, with their technology, gives us half of what Darkfall is promising. You really wonder if Darkfall is fake.
I'm pretty sure neither Blizzard nor Age of Conan even attempted to make this kind of game, much less say its not possible. There's nothing extremely radical about Darkfall, its like Ultima Online in 3d, with Dark Age of Camelotish RvR and boats, mostly things that have been tested in previous MMOs. The only thing that would be difficult in my opinion is the twitch combat, but we'll see how that works out.
Let's see, we have videos and hundreds of screenshots and detailed developer diaries, we have someone who went to Athens and played a build of the game, and we have a developer that USED to work for Aventurine, he's been emailed, and gave information about his time working at Aventurine. We also have records and evidence of the company based in Greece, including their financial records which includes at 23 million dollar loan.
Yup, its all bullshit. When are we going to start calling Age of Conan and Warhammer vaporware? What, they've been delayed like, 3-4 times each now?
The problem with theses features is they are not achievable by other companies. When you have Blizzard or the age of conan's company with hundreds of devs and coders working 40+ hours a week and tell us they cant, with their technology, gives us half of what Darkfall is promising. You really wonder if Darkfall is fake.
I'm pretty sure neither Blizzard nor Age of Conan even attempted to make this kind of game, much less say its not possible. There's nothing extremely radical about Darkfall, its like Ultima Online in 3d, with Dark Age of Camelotish RvR and boats, mostly things that have been tested in previous MMOs. The only thing that would be difficult in my opinion is the twitch combat, but we'll see how that works out.
Let's see, we have videos and hundreds of screenshots more like 30 ish pictures and most of em are 3-4 years old and the funny thing is none of them show the interface, combat, npcs monsters quests or anything, just some guy standing next to a tree.
and detailed developer diaries 1 journal every month with no data or any facts. I did read the journals and it is pretty clear the devs hate doing them, it is just a bunch of ideas they write in 5 mins with no backing .The last one he was bashing another game the whole time.
we have someone who went to Athens and played a build of the game that story is so fake it makes me lol everyime someone post it as a proof,
and we have a developer that USED to work for Aventurine, he's been emailed, and gave information about his time working at Aventurine. I read his email, he said he had to work 2 jobs because the employees working on Darkfall are underpaid and cant afford to live only with this game. When the mains devs are working 2 jobs a week, it is pretty clear they cant focus on Darkfall, thus slowing it is development a ton.
We also have records and evidence of the company based in Greece, including their financial records which includes at 23 million dollar loan. was not a loan but convertible bonds, a HUGE difference.
Yup, its all bullshit. When are we going to start calling Age of Conan and Warhammer vaporware? What, they've been delayed like, 3-4 times each now? the only difference is people are actually playing these 2 games unlike darkfail
The problem with theses features is they are not achievable by other companies. When you have Blizzard or the age of conan's company with hundreds of devs and coders working 40+ hours a week and tell us they cant, with their technology, gives us half of what Darkfall is promising. You really wonder if Darkfall is fake.
I'm pretty sure neither Blizzard nor Age of Conan even attempted to make this kind of game, much less say its not possible. There's nothing extremely radical about Darkfall, its like Ultima Online in 3d, with Dark Age of Camelotish RvR and boats, mostly things that have been tested in previous MMOs. The only thing that would be difficult in my opinion is the twitch combat, but we'll see how that works out.
Let's see, we have videos and hundreds of screenshots more like 30 ish pictures and most of em are 3-4 years old and the funny thing is none of them show the interface, combat, npcs monsters quests or anything, just some guy standing next to a tree.
and detailed developer diaries 1 journal every month with no data or any facts. I did read the journals and it is pretty clear the devs hate doing them, it is just a bunch of ideas they write in 5 mins with no backing .The last one he was bashing another game the whole time.
we have someone who went to Athens and played a build of the game that story is so fake it makes me lol everyime someone post it as a proof,
and we have a developer that USED to work for Aventurine, he's been emailed, and gave information about his time working at Aventurine. I read his email, he said he had to work 2 jobs because the employees working on Darkfall are underpaid and cant afford to live only with this game. When the mains devs are working 2 jobs a week, it is pretty clear they cant focus on Darkfall, thus slowing it is development a ton.
We also have records and evidence of the company based in Greece, including their financial records which includes at 23 million dollar loan. was not a loan but convertible bonds, a HUGE difference.
Yup, its all bullshit. When are we going to start calling Age of Conan and Warhammer vaporware? What, they've been delayed like, 3-4 times each now? the only difference is people are actually playing these 2 games unlike darkfail
When you reply like this without any research you're statesments turns to lies. Why? because most of what you said isn't correct or even close to be correct.
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The problem with theses features is they are not achievable by other companies. When you have Blizzard or the age of conan's company with hundreds of devs and coders working 40+ hours a week and tell us they cant, with their technology, gives us half of what Darkfall is promising. You really wonder if Darkfall is fake.
I wouldn`t say so. What you overlook is that Darkfall adresses a niche. If WoW would be like Darkfall is promised at the moment it would not be the success it is right now. The masses don`t want to play a hardcore PVP game at all. They just want to grind through quest for the next uber item. The though that someone could come by, kill them and take their item is their worst nightmare.
Even if Darkfall deliveres everything it promises it will never ever be one of the big players in the MMO market. That is not neccesarily a bad thing though. EVE found it`s niche too and they are making good money.
I'm pretty sure neither Blizzard nor Age of Conan even attempted to make this kind of game, much less say its not possible. There's nothing extremely radical about Darkfall, its like Ultima Online in 3d, with Dark Age of Camelotish RvR and boats, mostly things that have been tested in previous MMOs. The only thing that would be difficult in my opinion is the twitch combat, but we'll see how that works out.
Let's see, we have videos and hundreds of screenshots more like 30 ish pictures and most of em are 3-4 years old and the funny thing is none of them show the interface, combat, npcs monsters quests or anything, just some guy standing next to a tree.
and detailed developer diaries 1 journal every month with no data or any facts. I did read the journals and it is pretty clear the devs hate doing them, it is just a bunch of ideas they write in 5 mins with no backing .The last one he was bashing another game the whole time.
we have someone who went to Athens and played a build of the game that story is so fake it makes me lol everyime someone post it as a proof,
and we have a developer that USED to work for Aventurine, he's been emailed, and gave information about his time working at Aventurine. I read his email, he said he had to work 2 jobs because the employees working on Darkfall are underpaid and cant afford to live only with this game. When the mains devs are working 2 jobs a week, it is pretty clear they cant focus on Darkfall, thus slowing it is development a ton.
We also have records and evidence of the company based in Greece, including their financial records which includes at 23 million dollar loan. was not a loan but convertible bonds, a HUGE difference.
Yup, its all bullshit. When are we going to start calling Age of Conan and Warhammer vaporware? What, they've been delayed like, 3-4 times each now? the only difference is people are actually playing these 2 games unlike darkfail
Ok, you're obviously a troll. No one can claim to have read the diaries/email/seen the screenshots and post what you've posted. First odd thing about your post, if you hate Darkfall so much, how do you follow it close enough to know there was a thread where one of the former devs were emailed?
Also, I can post the email up here with some digging, there is not one reference at all to working two jobs because of being underpayed. Not even close! This is a blatant lie that I hope the sheep of this website don't believe.
The journals are weekly, or bi weekly, not monthly. And many of them do go into detail about the game, much more mechanical detail than other in development MMOs that just paint pretty pictures but never talk about the game mechanics or the reason for having them in.
As for screenshots, there are litterally hundreds of them, dating from 2003 to and onward. There's even more concept art and pictures of monster models out there. Just this month we got about 30-40 new screenshots alone of the new engine. So where does your number of 30 come from? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, and haven't seen all the screenshots or you would know what the UI looks like, because there's a few 05 screenshots that have it in there. On another note, I don't remember how many screenshots with a UI I saw with AoC? Practically none until they were just on the cusp of release.
So, next time you want to bash a game with potential, do some research and make it credible.
"more like 30 ish pictures and most of em are 3-4 years old and the funny thing is none of them show the interface, combat, npcs monsters quests or anything, just some guy standing next to a tree."
Yup, just standing next to a tree... not UI at all.... Nope, no combat. Here's one from the front page of the website. It's been there a while.
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Well, it even got a person to make an account just to post his speculations. And who knows, our lives can be a illusion... A matrix... We're must find those pills
I agree, one of the most amazing things about DF is how many people create alt accounts or new accounts to either support or slam DF.
I've seen no other game/forum that displays this phenomenon quite so often, and these new posters are usually fairly single threaded in their interest. They will only post about DF.
It sometimes lasts over time as well, their account might be a year or three old, yet they still only drop on the forums once in a while just to either prop up or bash DF.
Certainly an interesting social phenomenon, which makes discussing it more fun.
Me, I think they are trying to develop a game according to the promises they made. I just don't believe they can keep them, no matter how long they take to make it.
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Well, it even got a person to make an account just to post his speculations. And who knows, our lives can be a illusion... A matrix... We're must find those pills
I agree, one of the most amazing things about DF is how many people create alt accounts or new accounts to either support or slam DF.
I've seen no other game/forum that displays this phenomenon quite so often, and these new posters are usually fairly single threaded in their interest. They will only post about DF.
It sometimes lasts over time as well, their account might be a year or three old, yet they still only drop on the forums once in a while just to either prop up or bash DF.
Certainly an interesting social phenomenon, which makes discussing it more fun.
Me, I think they are trying to develop a game according to the promises they made. I just don't believe they can keep them, no matter how long they take to make it.
they already habe kept there promises excpt for like 1 or 2 features that dotn need to be in at release. If there telling the truth we will find out here very soonish.
I have my sources. But i couldnt prove it if i wanted to so its sucks that ic ant but meh. call me a liar if you want to but it will make you look like a fool later
Well, it even got a person to make an account just to post his speculations. And who knows, our lives can be a illusion... A matrix... We're must find those pills
I agree, one of the most amazing things about DF is how many people create alt accounts or new accounts to either support or slam DF.
I've seen no other game/forum that displays this phenomenon quite so often, and these new posters are usually fairly single threaded in their interest. They will only post about DF.
It sometimes lasts over time as well, their account might be a year or three old, yet they still only drop on the forums once in a while just to either prop up or bash DF.
Certainly an interesting social phenomenon, which makes discussing it more fun.
Me, I think they are trying to develop a game according to the promises they made. I just don't believe they can keep them, no matter how long they take to make it.
they already habe kept there promises excpt for like 1 or 2 features that dotn need to be in at release. If there telling the truth we will find out here very soonish.
I have my sources. But i couldnt prove it if i wanted to so its sucks that ic ant but meh. call me a liar if you want to but it will make you look like a fool later
Bro, you didn't even know that Darkfall was not their first or only project. So, give the "I have knowledge you don't" bit a rest. You've already proven multiple times you don't know squat about half the things you claim to. Man up, and just admit you're as in the dark as everyone else is. You have noone to impress on here, so why the charade? I mean, do you feel the need for self-validation that bad?
I was in wish beta and i was in mourning beta.
Wish was not a hoax. It didn`t meet the expectations (kinda like Dark and Light but not as bad eventho D&L got released O.o).
Mourning was simply very far from being ready and the devs were simply not as good as they thought. When you played that game you saw that all they care was trying to make itlook pretty. The game mechanics were very reudimentary even in the end. But yet again against common belief Mourning was not a hoax. I played it. If they wanted to cash in they could`ve done that without programming a half finished game.
Mourning was a failure with devsw that had trouble connecting to reality.
From the information we have about Darkfall it could be anything from total failure to the genres next big hit.
One thing is for sure. It wont be a WOW killer. It has a chance to deliver for a niche PVP market just like EVE does and could be successful there.
All we need to do is wait and see. If it is a hoax or vaporware wh do you care? Move on and laugh at those fools.
If it delivers we finally get a fantasy PVP MMO that is worth being played.
Personally i hope they can pull it off. I am quite sure that it will be bug ridden for quite a while even if it deliveres considerign it is their first MMO.
Money from advertising. This game is a fake and will never be a virtual reality.
sorry just forget it >< Big waist of my time to even bother anymore
Well, it even got a person to make an account just to post his speculations. And who knows, our lives can be a illusion... A matrix... We're must find those pills
I agree, one of the most amazing things about DF is how many people create alt accounts or new accounts to either support or slam DF.
I've seen no other game/forum that displays this phenomenon quite so often, and these new posters are usually fairly single threaded in their interest. They will only post about DF.
It sometimes lasts over time as well, their account might be a year or three old, yet they still only drop on the forums once in a while just to either prop up or bash DF.
Certainly an interesting social phenomenon, which makes discussing it more fun.
Me, I think they are trying to develop a game according to the promises they made. I just don't believe they can keep them, no matter how long they take to make it.
they already habe kept there promises excpt for like 1 or 2 features that dotn need to be in at release. If there telling the truth we will find out here very soonish.
I have my sources. But i couldnt prove it if i wanted to so its sucks that ic ant but meh. call me a liar if you want to but it will make you look like a fool later
Bro, you didn't even know that Darkfall was not their first or only project. So, give the "I have knowledge you don't" bit a rest. You've already proven multiple times you don't know squat about half the things you claim to. Man up, and just admit you're as in the dark as everyone else is. You have noone to impress on here, so why the charade? I mean, do you feel the need for self-validation that bad?
Zorvan I looked at a old quote I said my mistake. See why dont you get your heads out of your asses and have an open mind for once my source is just about the game only and thats it and i havent talked to him in a while because he wasnt willing to give any more info than what i got so .I have no clue why your guys have to be such assholes and start point fingers and call everyone a liar.
Like i said i hope to god that someone punches oyu in your mouths when the devs have been honest with us but your to damn busy ppointing fingers and making up your fabricated lies to see that.
i hope i get banned because im tired of waisting my time with the losers that cant keep the mouths shut until they are certian of whats actully happening but have to make up fibrcated lies to make thems elf looks right.
This is what im tlaking baotu fibricated lies.
Who the fuck cares if they showed us or not it doesnt meant shit if there telling the truth but like i said I know it will go beta this year. ill be back and im going to throw it in your face. See ya in the future
Actually, you have stated in 2 seperate threads that you don't "know" anything and the best you've got is an "educated guess". An educated guess is still just a guess, so please, give it a rest.
Also, please keep your language to yourself. There is no need to curse here.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
WEll it semes to me thats what they need is a bit of flaming to get them to relize we are getting pissed off over there asumptions.
plues yea i said educated guess because i didnt want to say i have sources because ic ant provide proof of it. well i havent been in contact witht he source and i dont know abotu beta but i do know where the game stands in how complete it is.
the beta thing its pretty obvious it will happen this year
I could tell you that I am an astronaut, and that I know for a fact that the moon is made of alien sperm, and there really is no way for you to prove or disprove what I am saying. Do you see the issue?
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
I could tell you that I am an astronaut, and that I know for a fact that the moon is made of alien sperm, and there really is no way for you to prove or disprove what I am saying. Do you see the issue?
Doesnt that go for the trolls 2? i guess not. abotu that astronant thing i have no right to call you a liar because i cant provide proof your actully lieing the govermeant can be covering it up you know.
My proof will come later and like i said ill be back
My source was one of the mythic devs. They may have had a copy for publishing reasons.
In all honesty what will you all do when the devs have been honest. do you realyl want to take that chance to make your selfs look stupid?
I could tell you that I am an astronaut, and that I know for a fact that the moon is made of alien sperm, and there really is no way for you to prove or disprove what I am saying. Do you see the issue?
Doesnt that go for the trolls 2? i guess not. abotu that astronant thing i have no right to call you a liar because i cant provide proof your actully lieing the govermeant can be covering it up you know.
My proof will come later and like i said ill be back
My source was one of the mythic devs.
Of course, it goes for everyone right now. No one knows where this game stands right now, so everyone could be wrong or right at this point. Which is why I stand firmly in the middle. I know that adventurine has just as much a chance of creating this game as anyone else does, but I also know that they've been in development for a long long time. So I stand in the middle of the road on it because I don't know if either side is right.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
I could tell you that I am an astronaut, and that I know for a fact that the moon is made of alien sperm, and there really is no way for you to prove or disprove what I am saying. Do you see the issue?
Doesnt that go for the trolls 2? i guess not. abotu that astronant thing i have no right to call you a liar because i cant provide proof your actully lieing the govermeant can be covering it up you know.
My proof will come later and like i said ill be back
My source was one of the mythic devs.
Of course, it goes for everyone right now. No one knows where this game stands right now, so everyone could be wrong or right at this point. Which is why I stand firmly in the middle. I know that adventurine has just as much a chance of creating this game as anyone else does, but I also know that they've been in development for a long long time. So I stand in the middle of the road on it because I don't know if either side is right.
Do you not relize. To get out an almost complete game for beta willt ake much longer than the standered three for years. With these features. if they want to stick to there promisses it needed to be in dev this long. and they needed to save money at the same time so they dont run out and have to cancel the product hence why they dont advertise or have a pr departmeant or even go to the gaming conventions.
The problem with theses features is they are not achievable by other companies. When you have Blizzard or the age of conan's company with hundreds of devs and coders working 40+ hours a week and tell us they cant, with their technology, gives us half of what Darkfall is promising. You really wonder if Darkfall is fake.
Why can't they do it? I think they don't see a moneytrain within the sandboxtheme.
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And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic'
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Why can't they do it? I think they don't see a moneytrain within the sandboxtheme.
Thats the sad truth of the MMO genre now a days. Most devs like to take the safe route, and make money. Sandbox games have fallen to the wayside since the release of the more casual friendly games. I miss the old days of make your own adventure style gaming.
Heres hoping we can start seeing more open ended games again. Hopefully starting with Darkfall.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
thats the right way to think about it burn : ).
I'm pretty sure neither Blizzard nor Age of Conan even attempted to make this kind of game, much less say its not possible. There's nothing extremely radical about Darkfall, its like Ultima Online in 3d, with Dark Age of Camelotish RvR and boats, mostly things that have been tested in previous MMOs. The only thing that would be difficult in my opinion is the twitch combat, but we'll see how that works out.
Let's see, we have videos and hundreds of screenshots and detailed developer diaries, we have someone who went to Athens and played a build of the game, and we have a developer that USED to work for Aventurine, he's been emailed, and gave information about his time working at Aventurine. We also have records and evidence of the company based in Greece, including their financial records which includes at 23 million dollar loan.
Yup, its all bullshit. When are we going to start calling Age of Conan and Warhammer vaporware? What, they've been delayed like, 3-4 times each now?
Darkfall Travelogues!
I'm pretty sure neither Blizzard nor Age of Conan even attempted to make this kind of game, much less say its not possible. There's nothing extremely radical about Darkfall, its like Ultima Online in 3d, with Dark Age of Camelotish RvR and boats, mostly things that have been tested in previous MMOs. The only thing that would be difficult in my opinion is the twitch combat, but we'll see how that works out.
Let's see, we have videos and hundreds of screenshots more like 30 ish pictures and most of em are 3-4 years old and the funny thing is none of them show the interface, combat, npcs monsters quests or anything, just some guy standing next to a tree.
and detailed developer diaries 1 journal every month with no data or any facts. I did read the journals and it is pretty clear the devs hate doing them, it is just a bunch of ideas they write in 5 mins with no backing .The last one he was bashing another game the whole time.
we have someone who went to Athens and played a build of the game that story is so fake it makes me lol everyime someone post it as a proof,
and we have a developer that USED to work for Aventurine, he's been emailed, and gave information about his time working at Aventurine. I read his email, he said he had to work 2 jobs because the employees working on Darkfall are underpaid and cant afford to live only with this game. When the mains devs are working 2 jobs a week, it is pretty clear they cant focus on Darkfall, thus slowing it is development a ton.
We also have records and evidence of the company based in Greece, including their financial records which includes at 23 million dollar loan. was not a loan but convertible bonds, a HUGE difference.
Yup, its all bullshit. When are we going to start calling Age of Conan and Warhammer vaporware? What, they've been delayed like, 3-4 times each now? the only difference is people are actually playing these 2 games unlike darkfail
I'm pretty sure neither Blizzard nor Age of Conan even attempted to make this kind of game, much less say its not possible. There's nothing extremely radical about Darkfall, its like Ultima Online in 3d, with Dark Age of Camelotish RvR and boats, mostly things that have been tested in previous MMOs. The only thing that would be difficult in my opinion is the twitch combat, but we'll see how that works out.
Let's see, we have videos and hundreds of screenshots more like 30 ish pictures and most of em are 3-4 years old and the funny thing is none of them show the interface, combat, npcs monsters quests or anything, just some guy standing next to a tree.
and detailed developer diaries 1 journal every month with no data or any facts. I did read the journals and it is pretty clear the devs hate doing them, it is just a bunch of ideas they write in 5 mins with no backing .The last one he was bashing another game the whole time.
we have someone who went to Athens and played a build of the game that story is so fake it makes me lol everyime someone post it as a proof,
and we have a developer that USED to work for Aventurine, he's been emailed, and gave information about his time working at Aventurine. I read his email, he said he had to work 2 jobs because the employees working on Darkfall are underpaid and cant afford to live only with this game. When the mains devs are working 2 jobs a week, it is pretty clear they cant focus on Darkfall, thus slowing it is development a ton.
We also have records and evidence of the company based in Greece, including their financial records which includes at 23 million dollar loan. was not a loan but convertible bonds, a HUGE difference.
Yup, its all bullshit. When are we going to start calling Age of Conan and Warhammer vaporware? What, they've been delayed like, 3-4 times each now? the only difference is people are actually playing these 2 games unlike darkfail
When you reply like this without any research you're statesments turns to lies. Why? because most of what you said isn't correct or even close to be correct.
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The Sceptics, yes they're special but we've need them to.. I guess.
And if they're put more effort MMORPG.com can create a 'Team Sceptic'
and send them to the Special Olympus.
I wouldn`t say so. What you overlook is that Darkfall adresses a niche. If WoW would be like Darkfall is promised at the moment it would not be the success it is right now. The masses don`t want to play a hardcore PVP game at all. They just want to grind through quest for the next uber item. The though that someone could come by, kill them and take their item is their worst nightmare.
Even if Darkfall deliveres everything it promises it will never ever be one of the big players in the MMO market. That is not neccesarily a bad thing though. EVE found it`s niche too and they are making good money.
I'm pretty sure neither Blizzard nor Age of Conan even attempted to make this kind of game, much less say its not possible. There's nothing extremely radical about Darkfall, its like Ultima Online in 3d, with Dark Age of Camelotish RvR and boats, mostly things that have been tested in previous MMOs. The only thing that would be difficult in my opinion is the twitch combat, but we'll see how that works out.
Let's see, we have videos and hundreds of screenshots more like 30 ish pictures and most of em are 3-4 years old and the funny thing is none of them show the interface, combat, npcs monsters quests or anything, just some guy standing next to a tree.
and detailed developer diaries 1 journal every month with no data or any facts. I did read the journals and it is pretty clear the devs hate doing them, it is just a bunch of ideas they write in 5 mins with no backing .The last one he was bashing another game the whole time.
we have someone who went to Athens and played a build of the game that story is so fake it makes me lol everyime someone post it as a proof,
and we have a developer that USED to work for Aventurine, he's been emailed, and gave information about his time working at Aventurine. I read his email, he said he had to work 2 jobs because the employees working on Darkfall are underpaid and cant afford to live only with this game. When the mains devs are working 2 jobs a week, it is pretty clear they cant focus on Darkfall, thus slowing it is development a ton.
We also have records and evidence of the company based in Greece, including their financial records which includes at 23 million dollar loan. was not a loan but convertible bonds, a HUGE difference.
Yup, its all bullshit. When are we going to start calling Age of Conan and Warhammer vaporware? What, they've been delayed like, 3-4 times each now? the only difference is people are actually playing these 2 games unlike darkfail
Ok, you're obviously a troll. No one can claim to have read the diaries/email/seen the screenshots and post what you've posted. First odd thing about your post, if you hate Darkfall so much, how do you follow it close enough to know there was a thread where one of the former devs were emailed?
Also, I can post the email up here with some digging, there is not one reference at all to working two jobs because of being underpayed. Not even close! This is a blatant lie that I hope the sheep of this website don't believe.
The journals are weekly, or bi weekly, not monthly. And many of them do go into detail about the game, much more mechanical detail than other in development MMOs that just paint pretty pictures but never talk about the game mechanics or the reason for having them in.
As for screenshots, there are litterally hundreds of them, dating from 2003 to and onward. There's even more concept art and pictures of monster models out there. Just this month we got about 30-40 new screenshots alone of the new engine. So where does your number of 30 come from? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, and haven't seen all the screenshots or you would know what the UI looks like, because there's a few 05 screenshots that have it in there. On another note, I don't remember how many screenshots with a UI I saw with AoC? Practically none until they were just on the cusp of release.
So, next time you want to bash a game with potential, do some research and make it credible.
"more like 30 ish pictures and most of em are 3-4 years old and the funny thing is none of them show the interface, combat, npcs monsters quests or anything, just some guy standing next to a tree."
Yup, just standing next to a tree... not UI at all.... Nope, no combat. Here's one from the front page of the website. It's been there a while.
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/javaw_2006_12_15_16_56_03_36
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/clan_siege_04
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/17_G
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/location_06
Darkfall Travelogues!
I hate to bump threads, but I'd really love to see good ol' Kairarr's response to this, if he has one.
Darkfall Travelogues!