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Don't waste your time and money on this one...SOE and LA have done their best to kill this game. With the poor showing of Chapter 9, their mission is almost complete. It's sad when a game of this magintude is just getting by on 9,000 subs. It looks like this is it...
People DO NOT waste your Time or Money on this steaming pile of shit. Besides it wont be here much longer.
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This game died when the owners decided that they didn't want their sub base anymore, they wanted WOW's, and deliberately drove them off for that new target audience.
Which apparently does not exist.
9000 subs? dream on.
Yeah it's probably closer to 5,000.
Tecmo Bowl.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Yeah it's probably closer to 5,000.
i'd say 2500.
http://www.soesucks.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10
i can only produce 2 players who subscibe to it. obraik and saay
The others are too embarassed to admit it . I think there may be 1321 others somewhere out there.
Subscribers? Dont' employees get a free account?
Subscribers? Dont' employees get a free account?
I think the devs use a free account when bug fixing and testing, but when playing in their free time they would need to buy their own account.
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
You can dream that there are actually that many people playing.
So many people seem to forget that this game was pretty bad even before the NGE.
It's launch was terrible, worse than Vanguard's. The only thing that pulled it up through its horrible launch was the Star Wars logo attached to it. It was buggy and had broken illogical systems (Jedi anyone?) And when Jedi were discovered the game quickly became either farming to get a force sensitive character, or becoming a bounty hunter. Great concepts in this game, terrible execution, and the NGE was the finishing blow.
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You're mostly right Sig. The launch was a disaster. I beta'd the thing and was there amidst the testers protests about launching such an unfinished product. I decided to not play it at launch, then lo and behold, I found an open box copy sitting in the defective item bin at Wal-Mart (somebody bought it not knowing there was monthly fee, and decided to return it, I was lucky they didn't use the key), so I decided to take the chance. When I logged in (in Feb 04, a few months after launch) I was BLOWN AWAY by how awesome it had gotten. Yes there were bugs, but things were working, and the community had gelled nicely. I think it was the golden era if SWG around that time. Then came the CU and things started going downhill around then.
The reason I bring this up, is so people know that the amount of hate for SOE right now is only due to the amount of love we had for the game back then. Yes it did launch bad, no denying that, but the game DID get good... really good. That is why we mourn it's loss, not (just) because of the SW logo on the box.
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
Care to provide some evidence that there are more than 9,000 subs?
That's right -- you can't.
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
Care to provide some evidence that there are more than 9,000 subs?That's right -- you can't.
I'm not the one who trotted out some phony number as if it was gospel truth.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
Care to provide some evidence that there are more than 9,000 subs?That's right -- you can't.
I'm not the one who trotted out some phony number as if it was gospel truth.
If you can't provide proof to refute it then you shouldn't be commenting on it.
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
Care to provide some evidence that there are more than 9,000 subs?That's right -- you can't.
I'm not the one who trotted out some phony number as if it was gospel truth.
But you are the one claiming that these numbers aren't true. Any evidence ?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
Care to provide some evidence that there are more than 9,000 subs?That's right -- you can't.
I'm not the one who trotted out some phony number as if it was gospel truth.
Well since you can't prove them wrong.. how can you say they are "phony" and NOT the gospel truth. SOE doesn't release those... so trying to call that person a liar.. would present a logic problem.. since you cannot prove them incorrect.. you are also implying there are more subscribers.. which you can't prove.
So in other words.. you have no projected a phony number as if its the gospel truth.
The truth is.. nobody on this forum knows...
On the other hand... who cares?
If you enjoy the game.. then you are enjoying it 9,000 subs or 100,000 subs.
If you don't like the game... it won't matter.
If you are afraid that the game might be shut down... trying to argue about subscription numbers on a forum won't change that.
In fact if I was enjoying the game.. I wouldn't be ... here..
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
Care to provide some evidence that there are more than 9,000 subs?That's right -- you can't.
I'm not the one who trotted out some phony number as if it was gospel truth.
Well since you can't prove them wrong.. how can you say they are "phony" and NOT the gospel truth. SOE doesn't release those... so trying to call that person a liar.. would present a logic problem.. since you cannot prove them incorrect.. you are also implying there are more subscribers.. which you can't prove.
So in other words.. you have no projected a phony number as if its the gospel truth.
The truth is.. nobody on this forum knows...
On the other hand... who cares?
If you enjoy the game.. then you are enjoying it 9,000 subs or 100,000 subs.
If you don't like the game... it won't matter.
If you are afraid that the game might be shut down... trying to argue about subscription numbers on a forum won't change that.
In fact if I was enjoying the game.. I wouldn't be ... here..
The irony about the inability of the $OE fanbois to present numbers is located ..guess ..the company they are fanbois of ..hahaha
Having the boldness to demand numbers from us and not from the company is ..well ..everyone can answer this from himself...
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
Care to provide some evidence that there are more than 9,000 subs?That's right -- you can't.
I'm not the one who trotted out some phony number as if it was gospel truth.
Well since you can't prove them wrong.. how can you say they are "phony" and NOT the gospel truth. SOE doesn't release those... so trying to call that person a liar.. would present a logic problem.. since you cannot prove them incorrect.. you are also implying there are more subscribers.. which you can't prove.
So in other words.. you have no projected a phony number as if its the gospel truth.
The truth is.. nobody on this forum knows...
On the other hand... who cares?
If you enjoy the game.. then you are enjoying it 9,000 subs or 100,000 subs.
If you don't like the game... it won't matter.
If you are afraid that the game might be shut down... trying to argue about subscription numbers on a forum won't change that.
In fact if I was enjoying the game.. I wouldn't be ... here..
The irony about the inability of the $OE fanbois to present numbers is located ..guess ..the company they are fanbois of ..hahaha
Having the boldness to demand numbers from us and not from the company is ..well ..everyone can answer this from himself...
I didn't "demand" any numbers outside of the one that the poster in question trotted out.
And I'd rather be a fanboi than a constant whiner who can't get over a long-gone version of a video game.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
Care to provide some evidence that there are more than 9,000 subs?That's right -- you can't.
I'm not the one who trotted out some phony number as if it was gospel truth.
But you are the one claiming that these numbers aren't true. Any evidence ?
Nothing that's not anecdotal. But the math of it puts that at about 346 players per server, which from my experience is completely wrong.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
Care to provide some evidence that there are more than 9,000 subs?That's right -- you can't.
I'm not the one who trotted out some phony number as if it was gospel truth.
But you are the one claiming that these numbers aren't true. Any evidence ?
Nothing that's not anecdotal. But the math of it puts that at about 346 players per server, which from my experience is completely wrong.
and you have on every single server a char, which you monitor 24/7 ..right ?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
I logged in at prime tme afew days ago and personaly saw 10 other players and talked to two others. So there are just 8987 more to verify
9,000 subs, huh? Care to provide some evidence of that?
That's right -- you can't { Mod Edit }
Care to provide some evidence that there are more than 9,000 subs?That's right -- you can't.
I'm not the one who trotted out some phony number as if it was gospel truth.
But you are the one claiming that these numbers aren't true. Any evidence ?
Nothing that's not anecdotal. But the math of it puts that at about 346 players per server, which from my experience is completely wrong.
and you have on every single server a char, which you monitor 24/7 ..right ?
You don't have to have a character on every single server and be on all of them 24/7 to know that there is more than 346 players per server. Period, end of discussion.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
You demand proof from others but provide none of your own.
You demand proof from others but provide none of your own.
1. Above poster claimed 9,000 subscriptions.2. The evidence I can see WITH MY OWN TWO EYES tells me that is inaccurate.
Ergo, I call bullshit. SOE hasn't released subscription numbers in a long time, so can I provide a number? No -- but that doesn't mean I can't look at my monitor and know that the number that was paraded out by the above poster was an outright falsehood.
And I love it that nobody's gone after 9,000-subscription boy, because his statement -- no matter how false -- supports the Groupthink.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.