Ha, another no name company making a lot of promises....I don't think Darkfall is done for, I think both games need to put their money where their mouths are.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
I think mmo productions like mortal online, crimecraft and darkfall is an example of how we need to have the bar raised for what mmorg.com contains?
If anyone with 3d and webdesign skills and some imagination can cook something up to get attention are we going to have to be poluted with the crap here whenever we visit?
Remove Darkfall from these forums. Set an example! Or this website will lose its meaning.
Also for real games like AOC and WAR it isnt fair!
I think mmo productions like mortal online, crimecraft and darkfall is an example of how we need to have the bar raised for what mmorg.com contains? If anyone with 3d and webdesign skills and some imagination can cook something up to get attention are we going to have to be poluted with the crap here whenever we visit? Remove Darkfall from these forums. Set an example! Or this website will lose its meaning. Also for real games like AOC and WAR it isnt fair!
Tell me what do you actually know about DF's development timeline? I believe that when it comes right down to it that your making an opinion without knowing much about what your takling about but if you actually do know about it then I'm sorry for such a misunderstanding.
I think mmo productions like mortal online, crimecraft and darkfall is an example of how we need to have the bar raised for what mmorg.com contains? If anyone with 3d and webdesign skills and some imagination can cook something up to get attention are we going to have to be poluted with the crap here whenever we visit? Remove Darkfall from these forums. Set an example! Or this website will lose its meaning. Also for real games like AOC and WAR it isnt fair!
Tell me what do you actually know about DF's development timeline? I believe that when it comes right down to it that your making an opinion without knowing much about what your takling about but if you actually do know about it then I'm sorry for such a misunderstanding.
They change grahics all the time. It is a clear proof it is not under serious development. They probably dont have a real engine.
I have seen all the stages. Am member of their forums, seen the warcry text (!!) "updates"...
Enough is enough... Everyone has the right to believe in it if they want... that doesnt explain why mmorpg.com should support this foolisness!
draccon go poison your self please or bring some proof to the table
fanboy,
it is darkfall that needs to bring proof to the table.. else the mmo communities will be flooded with these fake games... it breaks community, insults the real game developers and is generally useless
remove darkfall !!
You are trying to pass off your opinion that DF is vaporware as fact. Don't know how it would break the community, real game developers develope not just make EQ clones.
Mortal online does look good. I think it will be delayed though and release in 2010 instead of 2009. The same time I think ESO will be released if Bethesda is actually making it. As long as DF releases before then it will have a big advantage. Who knows though, if DFO were to release this summer people might be ready for a new game by 2010. Something else that is kinda wierd, DF original developers were in norway and mortal devs are in sweden, what is with those norse developers actually having good ideas?
Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open. Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
draccon go poison your self please or bring some proof to the table
fanboy,
it is darkfall that needs to bring proof to the table.. else the mmo communities will be flooded with these fake games... it breaks community, insults the real game developers and is generally useless
remove darkfall !!
You are trying to pass off your opinion that DF is vaporware as fact. Don't know how it would break the community, real game developers develope not just make EQ clones.
Mortal online does look good. I think it will be delayed though and release in 2010 instead of 2009. The same time I think ESO will be released if Bethesda is actually making it. As long as DF releases before then it will have a big advantage. Who knows though, if DFO were to release this summer people might be ready for a new game by 2010. Something else that is kinda wierd, DF original developers were in norway and mortal devs are in sweden, what is with those norse developers actually having good ideas?
LOL... DFO release in 2008? LMAO, you are a comedian. No E3, No DragonCon, No gaming convention anywhere and they are just going to release this summer. Ya right. With Mortal, I doubt DFO will ever see the light of day.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
draccon go poison your self please or bring some proof to the table
fanboy,
it is darkfall that needs to bring proof to the table.. else the mmo communities will be flooded with these fake games... it breaks community, insults the real game developers and is generally useless
remove darkfall !!
You are trying to pass off your opinion that DF is vaporware as fact. Don't know how it would break the community, real game developers develope not just make EQ clones.
Mortal online does look good. I think it will be delayed though and release in 2010 instead of 2009. The same time I think ESO will be released if Bethesda is actually making it. As long as DF releases before then it will have a big advantage. Who knows though, if DFO were to release this summer people might be ready for a new game by 2010. Something else that is kinda wierd, DF original developers were in norway and mortal devs are in sweden, what is with those norse developers actually having good ideas?
LOL... DFO release in 2008? LMAO, you are a comedian. No E3, No DragonCon, No gaming convention anywhere and they are just going to release this summer. Ya right. With Mortal, I doubt DFO will ever see the light of day.
You forget, DF Devs do not need silly PR or advertisement or any kind of marketing. They know people will play their game, because they are after all, geniuses who will revolutionize the genre.
draccon go poison your self please or bring some proof to the table
fanboy,
it is darkfall that needs to bring proof to the table.. else the mmo communities will be flooded with these fake games... it breaks community, insults the real game developers and is generally useless
remove darkfall !!
You are trying to pass off your opinion that DF is vaporware as fact. Don't know how it would break the community, real game developers develope not just make EQ clones.
Mortal online does look good. I think it will be delayed though and release in 2010 instead of 2009. The same time I think ESO will be released if Bethesda is actually making it. As long as DF releases before then it will have a big advantage. Who knows though, if DFO were to release this summer people might be ready for a new game by 2010. Something else that is kinda wierd, DF original developers were in norway and mortal devs are in sweden, what is with those norse developers actually having good ideas?
LOL... DFO release in 2008? LMAO, you are a comedian. No E3, No DragonCon, No gaming convention anywhere and they are just going to release this summer. Ya right. With Mortal, I doubt DFO will ever see the light of day.
That's why I used the word "if" to signify a hypothetical situation.
Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open. Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Mortal Online looks pretty good, FAQ is interesting. Plus its a publically listed company. I'll be keeping an eye on this. Shame they have a small team though.
I think mmo productions like mortal online, crimecraft and darkfall is an example of how we need to have the bar raised for what mmorg.com contains? If anyone with 3d and webdesign skills and some imagination can cook something up to get attention are we going to have to be poluted with the crap here whenever we visit? Remove Darkfall from these forums. Set an example! Or this website will lose its meaning. Also for real games like AOC and WAR it isnt fair!
Tell me what do you actually know about DF's development timeline? I believe that when it comes right down to it that your making an opinion without knowing much about what your takling about but if you actually do know about it then I'm sorry for such a misunderstanding.
They change grahics all the time. It is a clear proof it is not under serious development. They probably dont have a real engine.
I have seen all the stages. Am member of their forums, seen the warcry text (!!) "updates"...
Enough is enough... Everyone has the right to believe in it if they want... that doesnt explain why mmorpg.com should support this foolisness!
So your telling me the only thing you really knwo about this game is that it upgrades its graphics and somehow it = "not serious" explain to me how? Since modellers and programmers arent the same explain this.
Please elaborate more otherwise I might end up grouping you together with those who speak without knowing.
Mortal Online looks pretty good, FAQ is interesting. Plus its a publically listed company. I'll be keeping an eye on this. Shame they have a small team though. I liked the music from the trailer
Hey I agree w/ Avery lol. It had nice drums, drums are cool.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Its a good sign we are finally beginning to some new sanbox MMOs in development, we have been waiting for seven years : ( Doesnt that seems to be a bit weird. All we had was DF.
Indeed. Any skillleveled game sandboxgame out there gets my support. It's not about the title, it's about gameplay
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
Another no name developer promising the moon, stars, and the rest of the fricking galaxy. Another game with potential, but there in lies the problem, potential. Potential doesnt make a game good, potential doesnt pay the bills, potential doesnt shake the industry, potential doesnt do shit.
I am tired of seeing all of these no name companies talking big, like their the big dogs in town and they have nothing, NOTHING to back it up. If your gonna talk crap at least have the credentials to back it up. Unless its from a company that has released an MMO before I assume the game is vaporware. Even with a company like Bioware making an MMO. Yes I know they make good games, single player games, but MMOs are a different beast.
Especially if you are making a Triple A title, a lot of companies find out hard and fast that it aint as easy as people claim it to be. Every one just sees WoWs numbers and multiplies it by 14.99, stupidly assuming that is exactly how much Blizz makes a month. They dont think about the millions and damn near a decade that Blizz spent on developing WoW.
So until one of these developers actually releases something that doesnt resemble shit in a box, I will call vaporware.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Another no name developer promising the moon, stars, and the rest of the fricking galaxy. Another game with potential, but there in lies the problem, potential. Potential doesnt make a game good, potential doesnt pay the bills, potential doesnt shake the industry, potential doesnt do shit.
I am tired of seeing all of these no name companies talking big, like their the big dogs in town and they have nothing, NOTHING to back it up. If your gonna talk crap at least have the credentials to back it up. Unless its from a company that has released an MMO before I assume the game is vaporware. Even with a company like Bioware making an MMO. Yes I know they make good games, single player games, but MMOs are a different beast.
Especially if you are making a Triple A title, a lot of companies find out hard and fast that it aint as easy as people claim it to be. Every one just sees WoWs numbers and multiplies it by 14.99, stupidly assuming that is exactly how much Blizz makes a month. They dont think about the millions and damn near a decade that Blizz spent on developing WoW.
So until one of these developers actually releases something that doesnt resemble shit in a box, I will call vaporware.
Another no name developer promising the moon, stars, and the rest of the fricking galaxy. Another game with potential, but there in lies the problem, potential. Potential doesnt make a game good, potential doesnt pay the bills, potential doesnt shake the industry, potential doesnt do shit.
I am tired of seeing all of these no name companies talking big, like their the big dogs in town and they have nothing, NOTHING to back it up. If your gonna talk crap at least have the credentials to back it up. Unless its from a company that has released an MMO before I assume the game is vaporware. Even with a company like Bioware making an MMO. Yes I know they make good games, single player games, but MMOs are a different beast.
Especially if you are making a Triple A title, a lot of companies find out hard and fast that it aint as easy as people claim it to be. Every one just sees WoWs numbers and multiplies it by 14.99, stupidly assuming that is exactly how much Blizz makes a month. They dont think about the millions and damn near a decade that Blizz spent on developing WoW.
So until one of these developers actually releases something that doesnt resemble shit in a box, I will call vaporware.
And more importantly, POTENTiAL doesn't get any more of my money because too many games have lived for too long on the promise of potential and the developers have yet to live up to any potential with their respective games. If you want my money, show what you got coming out of the box. Don't try to sell me a Benz only to deliver a Ford Pinto.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Mortal Online looks pretty good, FAQ is interesting. Plus its a publically listed company. I'll be keeping an eye on this. Shame they have a small team though. I liked the music from the trailer
Small team make the dev time longer but if they have good financial backup i see more advantages being small. They will probably have less hysterical investors breathing down their neck and less risk for a "rushed" game.
AoC as example seems a bit "rushed" to me which can be the downfall for that game. NDA is still in and that is a red flag to me and still no open-beta, very much "hush, hush" about AoC which isnt making me believe in Funcom any more. Its good for the pre-orders though if bad publicity is as low as possible. Gamedeveloping costs is one reason for "rushing" the game. Large team is large costs. Add crazy advertisment campaigns to that and youll get a even bigger risk of being "rushed".
Bigger isnt always better.
So i think its a good thing theyre a smaller developing team. Seems the technology also makes a lot of the games todays which seems to make the need for hundreds of Devs unnecessary.
[QUOTE]"Grome has exactly what we've been looking for when it comes to generating and editing large-scale terrain. It gives us the possibility to produce environments of stunning quality and beauty within a time-frame we've never seen before." says Mats Persson, Creative Director Star Vault.[/QUOTE]
Good luck to Mortal Online, one more game worth following.
Until I see either game on my local Best Buy shelf I will consider them vaporware. Neither game is in open beta. Only Mortal is claiming they will launch in 2009. But it is still a matter of "show me the money".
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/138-forumfallers-new-ebola.html only a few days after this game is announced and darkfall followers are already jumping ship... The time of Darkfall is coming to an end.. the age of Mortal Online is just beginning... ya but seriously.. Darkfall is done.. even Brannoc is posting over there.. who was the biggest Darkfall supporter ever..... that's what happens when take 17 years to release your game..
Q: How long has Mortal Online been under development??A: We started planning Mortal Online back in early 2002, but the project really took off in 2005.
Ok, so they must have something more to show than a teaser after 3 years?. Or pehaps videos that show gameplay are top secret. I have seen more videos from Area 51 than from the new generation MMOs (including Darkfall). Mortal Online's state is not different than Darkfall's. So i can't jump ship right now. If they need 3 years to plan a game i just imagine how many decades they will need to release it.
Another no name developer promising the moon, stars, and the rest of the fricking galaxy. Another game with potential, but there in lies the problem, potential. Potential doesnt make a game good, potential doesnt pay the bills, potential doesnt shake the industry, potential doesnt do shit.
I am tired of seeing all of these no name companies talking big, like their the big dogs in town and they have nothing, NOTHING to back it up. If your gonna talk crap at least have the credentials to back it up. Unless its from a company that has released an MMO before I assume the game is vaporware. Even with a company like Bioware making an MMO. Yes I know they make good games, single player games, but MMOs are a different beast.
Especially if you are making a Triple A title, a lot of companies find out hard and fast that it aint as easy as people claim it to be. Every one just sees WoWs numbers and multiplies it by 14.99, stupidly assuming that is exactly how much Blizz makes a month. They dont think about the millions and damn near a decade that Blizz spent on developing WoW.
So until one of these developers actually releases something that doesnt resemble shit in a box, I will call vaporware.
A bit cynical are we?
Cynical? Nope. Realistic? Yes. I agree 100% with what he said.
Now there is this Mortal online, hush go over there haters, there is a new place to pester... close the door behind you and don't come back...
Talk Mortal matters in a Mortal place ,thx
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
"As a small company we don't have any marketing department" And here is where I stopped reading. It might just follow the same path as some other small company.
"As a small company we don't have any marketing department" And here is where I stopped reading. It might just follow the same path as some other small company.
Why you think you can comment Mortal quote in the Darkfall forum again ?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Started planning in 2002, and then began 'real' development in 2005. A guy named Talos emails you when you sign up to their forums, the features are almost the same as Darkfalls concepts. The way that FAQ is written and how the forums look are the same as the Darkfall site, Devs wanted to make an mmo because they were UO players and wanted something similar than the theme park games and so on.
I hope someone is not taking the piss because that is a lot of coincidences.
I am probably looking too much into it, but I can not help being wary of games that have a small team and seem to be promising what could be a great hardcore pvp game.
It is sort of funny though after I made a post saying these guys need to hurry up because 2009 will be their last chance to release, this game gets announced lol (I have a feeling that a game that has unreal engine 3 graphics will not have also features and release so soon)
Started planning in 2002, and then began 'real' development in 2005. A guy named Talos emails you when you sign up to their forums, the features are almost the same as Darkfalls concepts. The way that FAQ is written and how the forums look are the same as the Darkfall site, Devs wanted to make an mmo because they were UO players and wanted something similar than the theme park games and so on. I hope someone is not taking the piss because that is a lot of coincidences. I am probably looking too much into it, but I can not help being wary of games that have a small team and seem to be promising what could be a great hardcore pvp game. It is sort of funny though after I made a post saying these guys need to hurry up because 2009 will be their last chance to release, this game gets announced lol
Lol.....that is an incredibly funny thought. Hmmmm....
Another no name developer promising the moon, stars, and the rest of the fricking galaxy. Another game with potential, but there in lies the problem, potential. Potential doesnt make a game good, potential doesnt pay the bills, potential doesnt shake the industry, potential doesnt do shit.
I am tired of seeing all of these no name companies talking big, like their the big dogs in town and they have nothing, NOTHING to back it up. If your gonna talk crap at least have the credentials to back it up. Unless its from a company that has released an MMO before I assume the game is vaporware. Even with a company like Bioware making an MMO. Yes I know they make good games, single player games, but MMOs are a different beast.
Especially if you are making a Triple A title, a lot of companies find out hard and fast that it aint as easy as people claim it to be. Every one just sees WoWs numbers and multiplies it by 14.99, stupidly assuming that is exactly how much Blizz makes a month. They dont think about the millions and damn near a decade that Blizz spent on developing WoW.
So until one of these developers actually releases something that doesnt resemble shit in a box, I will call vaporware.
A bit cynical are we?
Cynical? Nope. Realistic? Yes. I agree 100% with what he said.
From what he's saying he automatically thinks every game that isn't made by a big company to be vaporware. This hardly a realistic view.
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Ha, another no name company making a lot of promises....I don't think Darkfall is done for, I think both games need to put their money where their mouths are.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
I think mmo productions like mortal online, crimecraft and darkfall is an example of how we need to have the bar raised for what mmorg.com contains?
If anyone with 3d and webdesign skills and some imagination can cook something up to get attention are we going to have to be poluted with the crap here whenever we visit?
Remove Darkfall from these forums. Set an example! Or this website will lose its meaning.
Also for real games like AOC and WAR it isnt fair!
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Tell me what do you actually know about DF's development timeline? I believe that when it comes right down to it that your making an opinion without knowing much about what your takling about but if you actually do know about it then I'm sorry for such a misunderstanding.
Tell me what do you actually know about DF's development timeline? I believe that when it comes right down to it that your making an opinion without knowing much about what your takling about but if you actually do know about it then I'm sorry for such a misunderstanding.
They change grahics all the time. It is a clear proof it is not under serious development. They probably dont have a real engine.
I have seen all the stages. Am member of their forums, seen the warcry text (!!) "updates"...
Enough is enough... Everyone has the right to believe in it if they want... that doesnt explain why mmorpg.com should support this foolisness!
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fanboy,
it is darkfall that needs to bring proof to the table.. else the mmo communities will be flooded with these fake games... it breaks community, insults the real game developers and is generally useless
remove darkfall !!
You are trying to pass off your opinion that DF is vaporware as fact. Don't know how it would break the community, real game developers develope not just make EQ clones.
Mortal online does look good. I think it will be delayed though and release in 2010 instead of 2009. The same time I think ESO will be released if Bethesda is actually making it. As long as DF releases before then it will have a big advantage. Who knows though, if DFO were to release this summer people might be ready for a new game by 2010. Something else that is kinda wierd, DF original developers were in norway and mortal devs are in sweden, what is with those norse developers actually having good ideas?
Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open.
Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
fanboy,
it is darkfall that needs to bring proof to the table.. else the mmo communities will be flooded with these fake games... it breaks community, insults the real game developers and is generally useless
remove darkfall !!
You are trying to pass off your opinion that DF is vaporware as fact. Don't know how it would break the community, real game developers develope not just make EQ clones.
Mortal online does look good. I think it will be delayed though and release in 2010 instead of 2009. The same time I think ESO will be released if Bethesda is actually making it. As long as DF releases before then it will have a big advantage. Who knows though, if DFO were to release this summer people might be ready for a new game by 2010. Something else that is kinda wierd, DF original developers were in norway and mortal devs are in sweden, what is with those norse developers actually having good ideas?
LOL... DFO release in 2008? LMAO, you are a comedian. No E3, No DragonCon, No gaming convention anywhere and they are just going to release this summer. Ya right. With Mortal, I doubt DFO will ever see the light of day.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
fanboy,
it is darkfall that needs to bring proof to the table.. else the mmo communities will be flooded with these fake games... it breaks community, insults the real game developers and is generally useless
remove darkfall !!
You are trying to pass off your opinion that DF is vaporware as fact. Don't know how it would break the community, real game developers develope not just make EQ clones.
Mortal online does look good. I think it will be delayed though and release in 2010 instead of 2009. The same time I think ESO will be released if Bethesda is actually making it. As long as DF releases before then it will have a big advantage. Who knows though, if DFO were to release this summer people might be ready for a new game by 2010. Something else that is kinda wierd, DF original developers were in norway and mortal devs are in sweden, what is with those norse developers actually having good ideas?
LOL... DFO release in 2008? LMAO, you are a comedian. No E3, No DragonCon, No gaming convention anywhere and they are just going to release this summer. Ya right. With Mortal, I doubt DFO will ever see the light of day.
You forget, DF Devs do not need silly PR or advertisement or any kind of marketing. They know people will play their game, because they are after all, geniuses who will revolutionize the genre./sarcasm off
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
fanboy,
it is darkfall that needs to bring proof to the table.. else the mmo communities will be flooded with these fake games... it breaks community, insults the real game developers and is generally useless
remove darkfall !!
You are trying to pass off your opinion that DF is vaporware as fact. Don't know how it would break the community, real game developers develope not just make EQ clones.
Mortal online does look good. I think it will be delayed though and release in 2010 instead of 2009. The same time I think ESO will be released if Bethesda is actually making it. As long as DF releases before then it will have a big advantage. Who knows though, if DFO were to release this summer people might be ready for a new game by 2010. Something else that is kinda wierd, DF original developers were in norway and mortal devs are in sweden, what is with those norse developers actually having good ideas?
LOL... DFO release in 2008? LMAO, you are a comedian. No E3, No DragonCon, No gaming convention anywhere and they are just going to release this summer. Ya right. With Mortal, I doubt DFO will ever see the light of day.
That's why I used the word "if" to signify a hypothetical situation.
Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open.
Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
Mortal Online looks pretty good, FAQ is interesting. Plus its a publically listed company. I'll be keeping an eye on this. Shame they have a small team though.
I liked the music from the trailer
Tell me what do you actually know about DF's development timeline? I believe that when it comes right down to it that your making an opinion without knowing much about what your takling about but if you actually do know about it then I'm sorry for such a misunderstanding.
They change grahics all the time. It is a clear proof it is not under serious development. They probably dont have a real engine.
I have seen all the stages. Am member of their forums, seen the warcry text (!!) "updates"...
Enough is enough... Everyone has the right to believe in it if they want... that doesnt explain why mmorpg.com should support this foolisness!
So your telling me the only thing you really knwo about this game is that it upgrades its graphics and somehow it = "not serious" explain to me how? Since modellers and programmers arent the same explain this.
Please elaborate more otherwise I might end up grouping you together with those who speak without knowing.
Hey I agree w/ Avery lol. It had nice drums, drums are cool.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Indeed. Any skillleveled game sandboxgame out there gets my support. It's not about the title, it's about gameplay
---
And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
Another no name developer promising the moon, stars, and the rest of the fricking galaxy. Another game with potential, but there in lies the problem, potential. Potential doesnt make a game good, potential doesnt pay the bills, potential doesnt shake the industry, potential doesnt do shit.
I am tired of seeing all of these no name companies talking big, like their the big dogs in town and they have nothing, NOTHING to back it up. If your gonna talk crap at least have the credentials to back it up. Unless its from a company that has released an MMO before I assume the game is vaporware. Even with a company like Bioware making an MMO. Yes I know they make good games, single player games, but MMOs are a different beast.
Especially if you are making a Triple A title, a lot of companies find out hard and fast that it aint as easy as people claim it to be. Every one just sees WoWs numbers and multiplies it by 14.99, stupidly assuming that is exactly how much Blizz makes a month. They dont think about the millions and damn near a decade that Blizz spent on developing WoW.
So until one of these developers actually releases something that doesnt resemble shit in a box, I will call vaporware.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
A bit cynical are we?
And more importantly, POTENTiAL doesn't get any more of my money because too many games have lived for too long on the promise of potential and the developers have yet to live up to any potential with their respective games. If you want my money, show what you got coming out of the box. Don't try to sell me a Benz only to deliver a Ford Pinto.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
AoC as example seems a bit "rushed" to me which can be the downfall for that game. NDA is still in and that is a red flag to me and still no open-beta, very much "hush, hush" about AoC which isnt making me believe in Funcom any more. Its good for the pre-orders though if bad publicity is as low as possible. Gamedeveloping costs is one reason for "rushing" the game. Large team is large costs. Add crazy advertisment campaigns to that and youll get a even bigger risk of being "rushed".
Bigger isnt always better.
So i think its a good thing theyre a smaller developing team. Seems the technology also makes a lot of the games todays which seems to make the need for hundreds of Devs unnecessary.
http://www.quadsoftware.com/index.php?m=section&sec=product&subsec=editor&target=editor_press_starvault
[QUOTE]"Grome has exactly what we've been looking for when it comes to generating and editing large-scale terrain. It gives us the possibility to produce environments of stunning quality and beauty within a time-frame we've never seen before." says Mats Persson, Creative Director Star Vault.[/QUOTE]
Good luck to Mortal Online, one more game worth following.
Until I see either game on my local Best Buy shelf I will consider them vaporware. Neither game is in open beta. Only Mortal is claiming they will launch in 2009. But it is still a matter of "show me the money".
Let's party like it is 1863!
http://www.mortalonline.com/faq#q17
Q: How long has Mortal Online been under development??A: We started planning Mortal Online back in early 2002, but the project really took off in 2005.
Ok, so they must have something more to show than a teaser after 3 years?. Or pehaps videos that show gameplay are top secret. I have seen more videos from Area 51 than from the new generation MMOs (including Darkfall). Mortal Online's state is not different than Darkfall's. So i can't jump ship right now. If they need 3 years to plan a game i just imagine how many decades they will need to release it.
A bit cynical are we?
Cynical? Nope. Realistic? Yes. I agree 100% with what he said.
Now there is this Mortal online, hush go over there haters, there is a new place to pester... close the door behind you and don't come back...
Talk Mortal matters in a Mortal place ,thx
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
"As a small company we don't have any marketing department" And here is where I stopped reading. It might just follow the same path as some other small company.
Why you think you can comment Mortal quote in the Darkfall forum again ?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Started planning in 2002, and then began 'real' development in 2005. A guy named Talos emails you when you sign up to their forums, the features are almost the same as Darkfalls concepts. The way that FAQ is written and how the forums look are the same as the Darkfall site, Devs wanted to make an mmo because they were UO players and wanted something similar than the theme park games and so on.
I hope someone is not taking the piss because that is a lot of coincidences.
I am probably looking too much into it, but I can not help being wary of games that have a small team and seem to be promising what could be a great hardcore pvp game.
It is sort of funny though after I made a post saying these guys need to hurry up because 2009 will be their last chance to release, this game gets announced lol (I have a feeling that a game that has unreal engine 3 graphics will not have also features and release so soon)
~Hairysun~
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A bit cynical are we?
Cynical? Nope. Realistic? Yes. I agree 100% with what he said.
From what he's saying he automatically thinks every game that isn't made by a big company to be vaporware. This hardly a realistic view.