Don't believe the spinning on CCP's part, they are just firefighting to try and play down events, just like with the t20 incident.
I can categorically confirm that the bannings have, and still are taking place.
AHA [looks at posting history].
Yea thing is seeing this debate is already over and it was just a lot of hype better luck next time.
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
Originally posted by Teiman A posible exploif for this is to save all the trade data as .CSV files, open it with Excel, and make Excel search the best trades, and the best routers. This will get the maximun benefict for the exploiter. Other use could be to make complete bots, maybe a transport bot that automatically transport stuff from a miner to a base, or from a base to another base. Maybe even create a bot to farm pve.
Those have already been done in EVE. Was this post sarcasm? Anyways ISK is not the end all or be all of EVE in the slightest. As for the client well others have already pointed out how stupid this thing really all is in the end due to the nature of the client itself.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
i dont think I will ever execute Eve clients ever again.
Although I have no way to confirm or deny the assertions that were made in the chat log relating to client security, the fact that the source code is available now for public scrunity is definitive for me as there will be lots of code junkies ripping that code appart line by line by line and that is bad folks, very bad, for the community.
As a programmer wananbe I try to code securely but sometimes I take tiny weenie short cuts (mainly becuase I build in house only apps , non internet facing). Man if someone took MY code and put it up on the internet I'd get busy recoding.
Yeah indeed, this is the straw for me. I thought about coming back with my two accounts but:
1. I can't run two clients post Graphics update even though i'm using the non premium client.
2. The community is overun by people who have nothing better to do then to piss on my corn flakes. Although they have every right to I have every right not to sub anymore either.
3. The game has always given a advantage to the few and generally preyed on the general consumer as bait for them. Whether that be alliances with Devs in them (i'm sure they got lots of soft information ), gate gankers that give the advantage to the agressor with an unbalanced consequences, and the macro miners (and the apparant lack of concern for them as !reflected in app code. Each time anyone speaks up about this stuff they are flamed as being somehow weak for not comprehending eve's complexity.
When I first started playing this game it had lots of promise but now with a freaking line by line copy of the app code available for public consumption any notion of fairness to the Eve G A M E is gone. Between T2 making zillions for BoB, the database hack (which is way worse than the source code leak) and allllllllllll the BS fire fighting these poor guys have done in the last few years. I got an idea: instead if spinning more BS down our throats why not take a break and fix the @#$# game for the average player?
I appreciate CCP is a business and they want to push out new content (the need it) but I thought, until now, CCP was the small company of good guys- now I realize that their priorities are not to publish a balanced MMO, but rather appeal to the game elite with the hope that suckers like me will bite.
i dont think I will ever execute Eve clients ever again. Although I have no way to confirm or deny the assertions that were made in the chat log relating to client security, the fact that the source code is available now for public scrunity is definitive for me as there will be lots of code junkies ripping that code appart line by line by line and that is bad folks, very bad, for the community. As a programmer wananbe I try to code securely but sometimes I take tiny weenie short cuts (mainly becuase I build in house only apps , non internet facing). Man if someone took MY code and put it up on the internet I'd get busy recoding.
Yeah indeed, this is the straw for me. I thought about coming back with my two accounts but: 1. I can't run two clients post Graphics update even though i'm using the non premium client. 2. The community is overun by people who have nothing better to do then to piss on my corn flakes. Although they have every right to I have every right not to sub anymore either. 3. The game has always given a advantage to the few and generally preyed on the general consumer as bait for them. Whether that be alliances with Devs in them (i'm sure they got lots of soft information ), gate gankers that give the advantage to the agressor with an unbalanced consequences, and the macro miners (and the apparant lack of concern for them as !reflected in app code. Each time anyone speaks up about this stuff they are flamed as being somehow weak for not comprehending eve's complexity. When I first started playing this game it had lots of promise but now with a freaking line by line copy of the app code available for public consumption any notion of fairness to the Eve G A M E is gone. Between T2 making zillions for BoB, the database hack (which is way worse than the source code leak) and allllllllllll the BS fire fighting these poor guys have done in the last few years. I got an idea: instead if spinning more BS down our throats why not take a break and fix the @#$# game for the average player? I appreciate CCP is a business and they want to push out new content (the need it) but I thought, until now, CCP was the small company of good guys- now I realize that their priorities are not to publish a balanced MMO, but rather appeal to the game elite with the hope that suckers like me will bite. no more.
You simply fail to see how intricate and detailed the game is. You lack the intelligence to properly connect to this game.
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Don't believe the spinning on CCP's part, they are just firefighting to try and play down events, just like with the t20 incident.
I can categorically confirm that the bannings have, and still are taking place.
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Pay-to-Win / F2P will be the death of real gaming, Boycott it !!
Yea thing is seeing this debate is already over and it was just a lot of hype better luck next time.
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
i dont think I will ever execute Eve clients ever again.
Although I have no way to confirm or deny the assertions that were made in the chat log relating to client security, the fact that the source code is available now for public scrunity is definitive for me as there will be lots of code junkies ripping that code appart line by line by line and that is bad folks, very bad, for the community.
As a programmer wananbe I try to code securely but sometimes I take tiny weenie short cuts (mainly becuase I build in house only apps , non internet facing). Man if someone took MY code and put it up on the internet I'd get busy recoding.
Yeah indeed, this is the straw for me. I thought about coming back with my two accounts but:
1. I can't run two clients post Graphics update even though i'm using the non premium client.
2. The community is overun by people who have nothing better to do then to piss on my corn flakes. Although they have every right to I have every right not to sub anymore either.
3. The game has always given a advantage to the few and generally preyed on the general consumer as bait for them. Whether that be alliances with Devs in them (i'm sure they got lots of soft information ), gate gankers that give the advantage to the agressor with an unbalanced consequences, and the macro miners (and the apparant lack of concern for them as !reflected in app code. Each time anyone speaks up about this stuff they are flamed as being somehow weak for not comprehending eve's complexity.
When I first started playing this game it had lots of promise but now with a freaking line by line copy of the app code available for public consumption any notion of fairness to the Eve G A M E is gone. Between T2 making zillions for BoB, the database hack (which is way worse than the source code leak) and allllllllllll the BS fire fighting these poor guys have done in the last few years. I got an idea: instead if spinning more BS down our throats why not take a break and fix the @#$# game for the average player?
I appreciate CCP is a business and they want to push out new content (the need it) but I thought, until now, CCP was the small company of good guys- now I realize that their priorities are not to publish a balanced MMO, but rather appeal to the game elite with the hope that suckers like me will bite.
no more.
You simply fail to see how intricate and detailed the game is. You lack the intelligence to properly connect to this game.