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RvR Keeps Video..
elvenangel
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Talks a good bit about Siege Weapons, shows off a Tier 2 and a Tier 3/4 Keep...holy crap dudes the Tier 3 Keep is crazy Huge..its a whole nother town! Basically Tier 3/4 Keeps are Fortresses not just boring ol keeps! With multiple entrances to bash your way in!
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Nice design for the keeps, really liking that.
So you can't put your siege weapons where you want then, they have to be on those set siege pads.
If only Battlekruse and Siresper (amongst others) weren't so negative about this limiting factor in AoC too. hmmm. (couldn't resist in saying something sorry after enduring months of negative stuff last summer)
To me its a good well rounded idea, especially like he says with the experience they picked up on in DAOC.
The size of them are great, and I like the back door // many ways in idea. Should be fun when its all fully populated and many things happening at once.
I was iffy on the idea of the siege pads too Avery but the explination of things that would go on in DAoC kind of cleared up the iffiness for me. It would just make taking the keep even harder than it already appears it could be.
The sheer mass size of the higher level ones though is just...awsome lol i expect they'll be under constant attacks lol
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Well, another good thing is they said these will be in the next phase of beta!! woohooo!
Boiling oil down the walls FTW!
Tentonhammer do a good job in reporting stuff, and Ethec who posted the vid, is also the camera guy. I thanked him alot for his steady hand and decent cam before
I would expect alot of decent WAR stuff to come from that site.
Love the nice idea of keeps and whatnot (did play DAoC but not for very long). Guess my real concern is how really laggy taking these large keeps might be with the number of people trying to take them over (Shadowbane comes to mind).
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yea thats my main concern as well. great video btw if it plays like they plan for it to should be lots of fun.
anyone else get annoyed with Yvonne and her poor abilities in controlling her character? she'd get owned quick lol.
Looks great! Cant wait to try it out. ^^
Thanks for the post, looks like its going to be an awsome time, cant wait.
Out of every 100 men, 10 should not be there,
80 are nothing but targets, 9 are the real fighters.
Ah, but one, ONE of them is a warrior,
and he will bring the others home.
-Heraclitus 500BC
Very epic, very cool. Warhammer FTW
The tier 4 keep looks amazing and seems like something worth playing for alone I dont think WoW will be able to hold me having seen some of the stuff this game is offering.
Great video. I had no idea that you could customize the siege weapons. The fortresses look like they're going to be utterly epic I just hope Mythic can manage the lag that having so many players in one area at the same time. God I can't wait for this game.
Games I've Played: WoW, FFXI, SWG, CoH, EVE Online
Games I'm Waiting for: WAR, Stargate Worlds
When they announced that they were adding keeps i thought awesome my favorite part of DAOC. Now that i ve seen this it s like that on crack i m amazed at how much they have learned from DAOC and actually improving it for WAR big time. I had confidence in them and really can t wait now
That tier 4 keep is amazing i can t wait to fight in those.
heya,
Thanks a bunch elevenangel, cool vid, this game is shaping up to be a major hit from the looks of things now, and it will only get better.
The T4 looked good but the T2 one was just plain ugly and plain, it shows you nothing of the character of Warhammer and that could just be from any old fantasy tale out there.
The tier 2 ones are the first ones in the game..they're supposed to be Minor and build up to awsome. If everything was awsome and gorgeous from the starting levels there'd be no reason to progress through the game.
considering you think everything about WAR is ugly I don't see why you bother posting such worthless off topic discussions. We're not talking about Graphics here. There's X billion posts for that.
the fact you even recently called Age of Conan crap graphics makes one wonder if your realistically looking for a game to play or if your a member of the Goon Squad who constantly like to stir up trouble for no other reason than a good laugh.
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I have it on good authority that SirEsper would apply the same criticism to any game that had preset locations for siege weapons, and only wished some members of the AoC community were equally as impartial.
I still maintain that such a system is limiting in any game and will in the long run, reduce sieges to a somewhat formulaic experience in regards to *that phase* of the siege. That is to say, we won't really be having a varied experience until that door comes down.
I recall my gripe at the time this was advertised in AoC was not that they had preset siege weapon locations so much as they had such a system that was being advertised/hyped as being more than it is to create interest. Unique, dynamic, limitless tactical options were some buzzwords that were thrown around, even though it was a weaker version of what was already available in DAoC. The system is certainly better than no siege weapons at all though, and will be nice for adding another layer to the experience. But no matter which game its in, a system that allows more freedom in placement would be a vast improvement imo.
Where did you hear it would be in the next phase?
and what phase are they adding sieges to AoC? Eh forget I asked, I know you arent permitted to answer that anyway.
1. Why can't lower tier stuff look gorgeous? I mean you'd still want to progress but the problem I have with doing it like this means once everyones higher level theres no point to go back to the old stuff and when new players stop coming in then it becomes dead and pointless being there. It's no fun progressing if everything is minor and ugly.... what I'm sick of in mmorpgs really.
2. I don't think AOC's graphics are crap I just think the character models are horrible and it all looks a little bland.
Just because I don't pretend everything is roses doesn't mean i'm stiring up trouble, I'm just stating what I don't like and what I want to be changed. You'll see worse than what I say of popular forums like Gamespot and Gamtrailers of people sayign this looks crap.... just read the comments to the videos. Sure mmo players might be happy with it all but it's not going to attract the newer players.
The issue is they're YOUR & those other people's personal opinions you state them as fact when infact its completely subjective. I personally like the keeps and don't expect much from Tier 2 keeps although I think they look graphical wise rather good.
Coming from having played highly graphical games like EQ2 and even testing Vanguard..I can honestly say the idea that graphics have to be 100 percent perfect at launch or even try to be is retarded not to mention destroys concentration on gameplay issues & causes a whole world of lag. I can't tell you the number of times I cursed my computer because I lagged out in EQ2 or Vanguard simply due to graphics (and bad server issues).
And this Thread is not about Graphics Please keep graphical discussions on the millions of Graphical threads. Your probably the first person out of all the people who's idiotic I'm right listen to me only my opinion matters types that I'm actually going to put on ignore. Laterz.
Personally I could careless what a bunch of people think about graphics of an MMO thats not even released yet. (massive multiplayer game) or whether or not they attract new players. Players choosing a game on graphics as the basis of their reasons to play or the basis for their constant bitching and moaning are usually the most unhappy players in the universe.
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That video is looking good, they seem to have learnt the lessons from DAoC, if the lag is kept to a minimum then I'm sure the siege runs will be quite fun for a while.
Thanks for the link and heads up on the vid Elvenangel!
Cheers!
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I really enjoyed this viedo.
They have learnt alot from DAOC (played for 5 years). I believe they will be able to manage the numbers since in DAoC during a relic raid there could be hundreds of players on the screen and i still managed on my pc, only once i believe do i remember the zone crashing due to number of players and that was when they merged the 2 EU english servers Prydwen and Excalibur and there were bout 4-5,000 people in the one frontier zone, good times!
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