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I just started LOTRO again, I played as a loremaster before (at the release) and got him to level 22, then I just got hit by a wall and didnt feel like playing anymore, I dont know why? It just felt that I was doing the same quests over and over again. Now ~1 year forward, yesterday actually. I started an Elf Hunter, did some reading on Elf and basic guides, was pretty interested and looked into all the quests ingame like I didnt before, reading the log and doing more exploring to keep my interest.  Last time  I played LOTRO I just took the quests and did them without even thinking.  I just dont know would keep my interest anymore in these games.... anykind of story to share?

 

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  • DonnieBrascoDonnieBrasco Member Posts: 1,757

    You can definitely enjoy LOTRO a LOT more, if you read the quests, and try to "feel into" the stories :) give it a try if you think so.

    Otherwise - we all get jaded of playing sometimes, be it MMO's or any other game. Take a break maybe, soon you'll feel a lot more like playing them!

     

    DB

    Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.

  • dragonacedragonace Member UncommonPosts: 1,185

    Originally posted by DonnieBrasco


    You can definitely enjoy LOTRO a LOT more, if you read the quests, and try to "feel into" the stories :) give it a try if you think so.
    Otherwise - we all get jaded of playing sometimes, be it MMO's or any other game. Take a break maybe, soon you'll feel a lot more like playing them!
     
    DB
    I'll second DB's comments. 

     

    LoTRo more so than any other MMO that I've played has the depth to the story-line to warrant reading all that text that you get when you are presented with a quest.

     

    Something else that may help is to move around to different areas more often and don't just pick up every quest.   Read the quest text before you click the accept button... if the quest genuinely sounds like something you would enjoy solving or participating in... then click accept.

     

    There are so many quests available (even if you only solo) now; that you can be picky in the quests that you do.   If you don't like certain kinds of quests... don't do them.   I've found that helps a lot of players avoid getting to the point you were in the last time you played. 

     

    Something else that helps (and if you are picky with the quests this will be a natural by-product) is don't keep your quest log full or even almost full all the time.   I've found that it comes across as a negative feeling when your quest log is constantly full.  It makes it seem like you're not making progress (even though you are still leveling). 

     

    That's one of the downsides with LoTRo having so many quests available... so don't be afraid to tell those NPC's  "NO!!!  Go collect your own dang boar intestines!  I've got better things to do! "   Trust me... it'll make you feel better and you'll have more fun if you turn down more quests from time to time.

  • darkgamerxdarkgamerx Member Posts: 311

    Perhaps looking for another mmorpg.

  • DonnieBrascoDonnieBrasco Member Posts: 1,757

    Originally posted by darkgamerx


    Perhaps looking for another mmorpg.
    A real WOW kid! In our forums! What a day :)

    DB

    Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

     

    Originally posted by DonnieBrasco


     
    Originally posted by darkgamerx


    Perhaps looking for another mmorpg.
    A real WOW kid! In our forums! What a day :)

     

    DB

     

    Heheh. Well I don't know in what context dark posted that... if it was meant as a troll or just a rather bluntly stated suggestion.

    However, under certain circumstances, I'd actually agree with that. I mean, if a player has tried anything they can think of to "get into the game" and it's just not working, then moving on to another game is a very sound suggestion.

    That's happened to me in numerous MMOs. I don't think there was anything wrong with them, they just didn't "click". There's always other choices. Eventually you find the one that clicks for ya. If it comes to that, don't be afraid to try some of the more "off the beaten path" titles... there's some really interesting titles out there flying below most people's radar.

    Now, that's not my suggestion to the OP... My suggestion, without getting too verbose ('cause I don't have the time right now :-p) is to basically see all there is to do - don't focus only one or two things. Especially - and this is something I do feel strongly about - don't only focus on leveling as a goal. Leveling should never be a goal in itself - because it's going to happen regardless, unless you're standing like a lump in your starting town, never quest and never kill anything. For me, I focus more on how much fun I'm having along the way. If I'm having a good time, I don't care if I don't level for a week (and that's not at all uncommon for me :).

    Look at what's available, see what looks interesting to you and then set goals within that. Divide up your activities, don't focus only on any one thing 'til you're sick and tired of it; switch it up when you start to feel like you're getting to that point. That's one reason why I think most player burn-out is self-inflicted. People don't stop and take a step back, even when they feel themselves wearing thin on a given activity. They continue forward 'til they're so sick of it that they don't even want to play anymore. That's rather counter-intuitive to me.

    Switch it up. There's plenty to do... Questing, Crafting, PvMP, chicken-play, exploring, deeds, helping others, and so forth. It's cliche', perhaps, but you really do get out what you put in.

    If in the end, none of that seems to be really keeping you engaged then perhaps try taking a break as has been suggested - we all burn out from time to time. As much as I love FFXI - it's my #1 favorite MMO - I need a  break from time to time. Or, again, perhaps just come to the conclusion that LoTRO simply isn't the right game for you. Nothing wrong with that.

    Either way... Good luck and I hope you find your niche!

     

     

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  • rando1rando1 Member Posts: 66

    Played WoW for 2 years and I have had enough of this 'hardcore' raiding etc, and no, there is no other mmorpg for me at the moment, tried all of them literally. Its time to take it easy and just enjoy playing once a while, it felt like work before. Im very casual player nowadays since im serving for the army.

    I havent ever thought that having alot of quests at once makes you feel like you're not doing progress, I think you're right. And I definately am afraid to say no to them! I feel like I have to help them always, like they wouldnt survive alone hehe! I'll go littlebit a time, and watch out not playing 8 hours straight like I used to. Thank you for the replies.

  • KroggKrogg Member Posts: 480

    Originally posted by rando1


    Hello people of mmorpg.com
     
    I just started LOTRO again, I played as a loremaster before (at the release) and got him to level 22, then I just got hit by a wall and didnt feel like playing anymore, I dont know why? It just felt that I was doing the same quests over and over again. Now ~1 year forward, yesterday actually. I started an Elf Hunter, did some reading on Elf and basic guides, was pretty interested and looked into all the quests ingame like I didnt before, reading the log and doing more exploring to keep my interest.  Last time  I played LOTRO I just took the quests and did them without even thinking.  I just dont know would keep my interest anymore in these games.... anykind of story to share?
     
    farewell

    LOTRO is about the journey, not the end.  If you are powering through all the content to hit 50 ASAP (not saying you are, but some come in and think it's the thing to do)  you miss the actual game.  LOTRO actually has what most games profess to offer - interesting and enjoyable story-arcs.

    So read every quest, slow right down and get every word..it's hard even for me sometimes to play like that, but this game makes it worthwhile.  Try not to use MMODB and explore your way through the content.  End-game is fun and there is much to do but getting their in a hurry only hurts you and your char.

    You might already be taking your time, but if yu haven't played LOTRO like this give it a try.

  • dragonacedragonace Member UncommonPosts: 1,185

    Originally posted by rando1


    Played WoW for 2 years and I have had enough of this 'hardcore' raiding etc, and no, there is no other mmorpg for me at the moment, tried all of them literally. Its time to take it easy and just enjoy playing once a while, it felt like work before. Im very casual player nowadays since im serving for the army.
    I havent ever thought that having alot of quests at once makes you feel like you're not doing progress, I think you're right. And I definately am afraid to say no to them! I feel like I have to help them always, like they wouldnt survive alone hehe! I'll go littlebit a time, and watch out not playing 8 hours straight like I used to. Thank you for the replies.
    Your welcome.

     

    That's one of biggest differences that it takes time to get used to in LoTRo.  You can be a casual player, and still make significant progress on your character.  There are lot's of things to do that can be accomplished in 30-60 minutes.  So, if that's all the time you have... you can still have fun and feel like you've made some progress for your character. 

     

    And yeah... it takes awhile to get used to saying NO to those lazy NPC's.  But I figure it's tough love.  If we constantly do everything for them (even if we find their tasks boring)... how will they survive once we move on to the Mines of Moria?  

    And besides, there has only been 1 or 2 NPCs that have broken down and cried when I refused their request... so the vast majority of them can take it.  For those that can't... just have your tissue ready. 

  • vingvegavingvega Member Posts: 577

    I thought the game sucked.  Felt the same as you did and solved the problem with uninstalling the game and putting it on the shelf with the other old games.  I had more fun playing Space Quest than I did with LOTRO.

  • CartographyCartography Member UncommonPosts: 331

    I was in a similar situation... I hit a wall around the mid 20s... but I pushed on to 50. It was kind of fun, definitely more enjoyable than a lot of MMOs. However, once I hit 50... the boredom struck. I'm not an alt player... I refuse  to roll another toon. I too play FFXI, and that's my favorite game... obviously the games do not compare to eachother... but if you got sick of WoW, chances are you'll get sick of LoTRO. There's no reason to beat around the bush, LoTRO uses the tried and true forumla of the current MMOs... they do it well, but it's possible that players like you should maybe just avoid it and try to find another game with a different formula.

  • rando1rando1 Member Posts: 66

    What is there actually to do in the "end" when you hit 50 for example? Train professions?

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183

    OP: try a few different professions. Loremaster bored me to tears, guardian was ok for a while..

    But Champion and Hunter I LOVE.

    There's plenty to do at 50, by the way. Multiple quest lines, crafting, raiding, PVMP, deeds, to name a few.

    My Kin has a lot of 50's, and they sure as hell don't seem bored. I'll find out for myself very soon, as well.

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  • darkgamerxdarkgamerx Member Posts: 311

     

    Originally posted by DonnieBrasco


     
    Originally posted by darkgamerx


    Perhaps looking for another mmorpg.
    A real WOW kid! In our forums! What a day :)

     

    DB

     

    Please do elaborate, how does my post relate to WoW in any way? The OP seems to be qute bored of LoTRO i was merely suggesting for him to broaden his horizen and test a few other games..

     

    If anyones a kid here it's you mate

     

    Anyway.. i actuelly quite enjoyed playing as the lore-master it was more fun than any other class. I prefered magic over the melee class since i didnt like a few of the melee combat animations.

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

    Originally posted by vingvega


    I thought the game sucked.  Felt the same as you did and solved the problem with uninstalling the game and putting it on the shelf with the other old games.  I had more fun playing Space Quest than I did with LOTRO.

    Dude! Space Quest rocked! Roger Wilco ftw! Man you just brought back memories heheh.

    That said, as has been said before... no game is going to click for everyone.

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575

    Reading the quests keeps it much more interesting for me as well.  I like to take my time reading them, unless I get into a group and then I always feel rushed like I'm holding everyone up.

  • Katashi-kunKatashi-kun Member Posts: 517

     

    Originally posted by Terranah


    Reading the quests keeps it much more interesting for me as well.  I like to take my time reading them, unless I get into a group and then I always feel rushed like I'm holding everyone up.
      If its something new I've never done or I'm playing my alt and decide to re-read the quest details again I will warn the groups I join that I do take the time to read them, and as the primary Minstrel in almost all these groups "if you run ahead and don't wait for me to finish reading and u die its all on you, you were warned....heh!"

     

     

    Am sure this event will take place once again when Forochel opens later this month!

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  • rando1rando1 Member Posts: 66

    A little update on my adventuring, got to level 15, and I havent enjoyed that much playing, sorry to say this. I know for some people this is a great game but everyone cant enjoy it as much. Cant just help it, guess the game doesnt ''click'' for me. But im happy for all the help from you guys and your thoughts. The big part about mmorpg is the community aswell, and you guys give a good impression about the game. I hope players that are starting lotro, should give it a try, for some people the game is going to take you on a very exciting trip! its not the game, its just me. And again big hand for the guys replying

     

  • Katashi-kunKatashi-kun Member Posts: 517

    Play until like 25.....most the classes don't get their specialities until lvl 20!  Thats basically where it really opens up and ur class really starts to flesh out alot and become very unique!

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  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183

    Originally posted by rando1


    A little update on my adventuring, got to level 15, and I havent enjoyed that much playing, sorry to say this. I know for some people this is a great game but everyone cant enjoy it as much. Cant just help it, guess the game doesnt ''click'' for me. But im happy for all the help from you guys and your thoughts. The big part about mmorpg is the community aswell, and you guys give a good impression about the game. I hope players that are starting lotro, should give it a try, for some people the game is going to take you on a very exciting trip! its not the game, its just me. And again big hand for the guys replying
     
    sorry to hear that.

     But it sounds like you gave it a good try.

    Age Of Conan will be released in a month...may want to hold out for that.

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  • ByromByrom Member Posts: 236

    I can relate to your delema. And have used the term, "hit the wall," in a effort to explain, or maybe just understand, for myself, what was happening, in my experience, with many mmorpg's.

    The two times I really enjoyed this game were during open beta, and when I found a kin that actually fellowed and helped one another , continually. We never played when we were'nt playing together, as a group/ groups, depending on who was on.

    While I do play games, primarily, every waking minute of my life, I would'nt be considered a gamer, in most peoples books. I cannot solo LOTROL, nor  several of the on line games Ive played. I'm not geared for it mentally.  Now that the ppl of that kin I was in have capped and moved on to other games, Im lost.

    I really dont think there is any sollution to this, therefore I can only take breaks from the game and try others, as well as my standby game, which Ive played continually since late of 02. Its an mmo fps, and has been the only one to hold my attention .

    This is only my experience, and definately not a slam on any game. I still feel that LOTROL is an excellent game, perhaps the best of it's kind to date. But I feel as if I have no place in middle earth, as it exists now.

    I come back and visit for a month or two , then Im off. Like visiting a favorite aunt.

  • cougardavecougardave Member Posts: 52

    I fully understand where OP is coming from.

    I played LOTRO in beta, a bit at the start, canceled, then started up again, and now canceled again.

    Same issue really, get up to around mid 20's and blah.  Endless quests doing the same thing, over and over and over again. 

    So wife and I canceled.  We talked about what we didn't like about lotro and what we enjoyed.

    Biggie: no sense of impending anything.  The world is supposed to be in "great peril" and yet nothing changes, there's never any sudden attacks on towns, nothing to get your heart racing.   The guards in Bree are just there for visuals.  The door's always open....

    Scenery is nice, but if we just want to stand around pretending to be elves and looking at pretty scenery, we can dress up and go out in our own back yard LOL.

    Conan, now that's interesting.  And we both pre-ordered.

     

     

  • jarishjarish Member Posts: 526

    I agree the best way to play LOTRO is to take it all in and play slowly. Not just run around a fast as you can skipping the dialoge and getting all the quests as soon a possible. It really makes you appreciate all Turbine has done in this game to make it feel real and be just like the books.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939

    Originally posted by jarish


    I agree the best way to play LOTRO is to take it all in and play slowly. Not just run around a fast as you can skipping the dialoge and getting all the quests as soon a possible. It really makes you appreciate all Turbine has done in this game to make it feel real and be just like the books.
    I will also add my voice to this. Too many players have adopted a sort of "burn though whatever you can to get xp and get to high lvl" approach.

    They have trained themselves in this way for so long that they have lost the ability to recognize  "another way".

    For instance, at lvl 48 I decided to do some exploring around goblin town. after a bit of time I realize I had made 25% toward lvl 49 (which my character is now). However, all I did was explore and kill what I needed, tried to figure out ways to get by hard areas, etc.

    You have to actually "play" the game, not just go on auto pilot. It helps a huge amount to be invested in a particular quest or action. I'm looking forward to 50 because I can then do quests for the sake of doing them, not just for xp. I will also be working on my crafting and working on making some money for more "top of the line" equipment.

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  • DragonOakDragonOak Member Posts: 322

    This is a game that is like a fine meal, meant to be taken in one bite at a time, not wolfed down at lunchtime because you only have 10 minutes to eat.

  • DragonOakDragonOak Member Posts: 322

     

    Originally posted by openedge1

    Originally posted by DragonOak



    This is a game that is like a fine meal, meant to be taken in one bite at a time, not wolfed down at lunchtime because you only have 10 minutes to eat.

    Then why does it taste like a Big Mac?

     

    Because you are to busy trying to stuff the junk food in your mouth to replace the "LOLLIPOP" that Turbine took away from you.

    I mean you got a lot of time on your hands to spread the message of hate, it is spring time, try and get some fresh air it might do you good.

    EDIT:  Best way to explain this is you sit down and eat a filet mignon in two minutes all that you will taste is the base meat and some of the outer edge searing.  If you actually take the time to chew it you will taste the succulent well prepared mignon, the bacon along the edges will tickle your taste buds, and the juices from the tender meat you will taste as you slowly swallow.  But if you prefer to eat it like a Big Mac, go right ahead.

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