bioware is the new blizzard of the gaming world. kotor was fun yes however look at the two games they did after kotor. jade empire that didn't do all that well and mass effect is halo with a level system. not only that they have talked about how they want to make a mmo somewhat like warcraft and that is not a good sign. and i don't think they would put in anything that would made the pre-cu one of the greatest systems of all time.
rather we would get some action rpg that is kotor meets mass effect. also you know bioware is in bed with Micro$oft as they have stated alot how they love the xbox systems and how Micro$oft helps them out with everything. ea has many people who support the xbox as well. so whatever this mmo they are working on will come out on the xbox 360 and that we will have the halo kiddies on it in no time.
unless bioware tells M$ to stick it and makes a game that we want. namely pre-cu with alpha classes then it will bomb in no time.
as i have talked about before eve is going to be the template for mmo's in the next few years. something bioware has not looked at.
I'd love a StarWars MMO. I'm not at all burnt out on the idea.
It's the being misled part of SWG that got old. That and all the bugs, along with promises of fixes that never come. That and the NGE and all it stands for.
Another StarWars MMO that actually works well and that isn't ripped out from under us after years of investment would be most welcome. For some it might even be some kind of corrective emotional experience to help them heal from all the SWG B.S..
I should add that the EULA will have to read much differently than SOE's. No more "we reserve the right to do whatever the hell we want at our sole discretion, and if you don't like it then F.U.. I'll be looking for a much more "user" friendly user agreement. If I don't see it, I won't pay for the service.
Really I don't think as many people give a shit what BioWare is working on ATM since we have no idea what it's about. We've been on the rumor (and hype)-o-go-round for like 2 years now. I could really give a shit less what it is at this point till they announce it. I'm not getting my hopes up anymore.
I have always been a big fan of Star Wars and it took the NGE to keep me away from its MMO.
I will certainly give it a try but I fear we will continue to see more "iconic" and "starwarsy" features in this MMO rather than what we enjoyed from PRE-CU.
I would not want a new SW MMO to be anything like SWG no matter what version of it we are talking about. Those days are gone and I am ready for something new and innovative.
Odds are in favor of any MMORPG with lucasarts involved will be Jedi heavy. They believe that anything Star Wars without Jedi sells not...
So for anyone that thinks a future Star Wars MMORPG will get you away from longswords and magic... Don't get your hopes up.. They are just renamed and retextured.
Yes, I'll try it and most likely like it even if it's another WoW turn out because it's Star Wars. I sure as hope to hell there's not another single MMO game out there in the near future with 3 rows of buff shit like this that makes pvp suck:
Originally posted by Reklaw Originally posted by Fishermage If it is Star wars, I'll give it a shot.
Even if it turns out to be a Clone Wars MMO? Kinda sceptical about what type of SW Bioware might bring, that is IF, i do think from a business point of view that a Clone Wars MMO might do allot better then a MMO based on the movies, tho i don't want it to be a Clone Wars MMO and will not play it as i never could get into the whole Clone Wars series. Also expectations of "IF" it turns out to be a SW MMO would be much higher then when it all was so new back at pre-cu, especialy with TFU coming soon and all the rest of the experiance most gamers have gained after-pre-cu, in lots of games and also the fact the overal MMO community has grown so much bigger then 10/15 years ago. So what ever they are cooking it might be something that is the total opposite of what most VETS are looking for or it might turn out into something most VETS are looking for. I just hope for the best and wait and see..... I certainly would give a clone wars MMO a shot, I would give a WoW in space clone a shot, I would give a sandbox a shot, I would give a great many games that are Star Wars a shot -- if the game isn't a broken piece of crap. like SWG, I'll play it and probably enjoy it.
I don't like the fantasy genre particularly, but I do enjoy WoW, because it WORKS as a game. I PREFER a sandbox, and if someone ever made one that works, in a world I liked, I would play that as well. I loved the SWG sandbox, and played it, flaws and all, if I could have that without the broken content, broken professions, and bugs, I would LOVE that.
If I couldn't have that, I would still enjoy a WORKING less sanboxy game. I contain multitudes and can find enjoyment in many game systems and many worlds.
I LOVE Star Wars and would play ANY working MMO set in the Star Wars universe. SWG NGE DOES NOT WORK, and I still pay/play that one, for historical reasons.
So yeah, if bioware makes a Star wars game, I'll give it a shot.
That being said, if it doesn't appeal to pre-CU fans, fail it will.
Originally posted by Kesran Originally posted by Fishermage
...and if they DON'T appeal to pre-CU vets, it will fail.
Don't be absurd! Do you really suppose that if they don't engage a relatively small group of players expectations it won't do well? The whole pre-CU argument (however justified) is ancient news and there'd be a whole load of gamers (you know, the majority, the ones who don't bother reading forums like this one) who'd shell out to play it just because it has 'Star Wars' on the box...Hell, I'm a Star Wars Galaxies (Pre JTLS) player myself and I'd even give it a go. But then, given that this is all based on a rumor from 'a friend of a friend', I'm not holding my breath for a new SW MMO I'm not being absurd in the least; I'm being realistic. Markets are driven by minorities; not majorities. A vocal minority can kill your business. Any SW MMO that does not please pre-CU vets will fail due to bad viral marketing.
Originally posted by Rollotamasi Originally posted by Fishermage
Originally posted by Rollotamasi If Bioware is doing a starwars MMO I hope to god it doesnt in any way shape or form appeal to SWG vets or else there is going to be nothing but moaning and complaining about how its not pre NGE SWG and pre NGE SWG was better and if they changed this and that it would be like pre NGE SWG.
...and if they DON'T appeal to pre-CU vets, it will fail. The majority of people playing world of warcraft right now are not "Warcraft Vets" there for I don't think its a fair assumption to say that any game has to appeal to a different games previous fan base to be successful.
Blizzard did not destroy their reputation by angering a couple of hundred thousand loyal fans. We are talking apples and oranges. The new SW game is making up for a prior business FAILURE, not building on a business success.
Originally posted by Fishermage Originally posted by tillamook Originally posted by LynxRufus If it's skill based, sandbox, sure. If it's WOW with a KOTOR skin, no.
Yeah, if it's like WoW you might as well play the current SWG.
the current SWG is nothing like WoW. It is a shabby copy of some features of WoW.
And it gets closer every chapter or patch, they changed the way block and parry, crit defense and tohit and such works that it's so identical to the character offense/defense rules in WoW, then added beastmaster with a pet bar exactly like WoW's, and so on. And next patch adds disabling appearance of helmet and backpack just like WoW's hide helmet and cape.
Devs are soaking up demand from the playerbase to bring back the way SWG used to be on their forums on a daily basis, but they're either ignoring it or not understand it or just plain being stupid.
Originally posted by sookster54 Originally posted by Fishermage Originally posted by tillamook Originally posted by LynxRufus If it's skill based, sandbox, sure. If it's WOW with a KOTOR skin, no.
Yeah, if it's like WoW you might as well play the current SWG.
the current SWG is nothing like WoW. It is a shabby copy of some features of WoW.
And it gets closer every chapter or patch, they changed the way block and parry, crit defense and tohit and such works that it's so identical to the character offense/defense rules in WoW, then added beastmaster with a pet bar exactly like WoW's, and so on. And next patch adds disabling appearance of helmet and backpack just like WoW's hide helmet and cape.
Devs are soaking up demand from the playerbase to bring back the way SWG used to be on their forums on a daily basis, but they're either ignoring it or not understand it or just plain being stupid.
It doesn't get closer to WoW with every patch though, it gets closer to a poor man's version of WoW (sorta, but not even that good). All they do is add poorly copied FEATURES of WoW, without any of the reasons for WoW's success (quality of product, concentric circle player focus, thousands of quests, PvP at all play levels).
It's cnot getting MORE like WoW, just less like SWG.
Kinda sceptical about what type of SW Bioware might bring, that is IF, i do think from a business point of view that a Clone Wars MMO might do allot better then a MMO based on the movies, tho i don't want it to be a Clone Wars MMO and will not play it as i never could get into the whole Clone Wars series.
Also expectations of "IF" it turns out to be a SW MMO would be much higher then when it all was so new back at pre-cu, especialy with TFU coming soon and all the rest of the experiance most gamers have gained after-pre-cu, in lots of games and also the fact the overal MMO community has grown so much bigger then 10/15 years ago.
So what ever they are cooking it might be something that is the total opposite of what most VETS are looking for or it might turn out into something most VETS are looking for.
I just hope for the best and wait and see.....
I certainly would give a clone wars MMO a shot, I would give a WoW in space clone a shot, I would give a sandbox a shot, I would give a great many games that are Star Wars a shot -- if the game isn't a broken piece of crap. like SWG, I'll play it and probably enjoy it.
I don't like the fantasy genre particularly, but I do enjoy WoW, because it WORKS as a game. I PREFER a sandbox, and if someone ever made one that works, in a world I liked, I would play that as well. I loved the SWG sandbox, and played it, flaws and all, if I could have that without the broken content, broken professions, and bugs, I would LOVE that.
If I couldn't have that, I would still enjoy a WORKING less sanboxy game. I contain multitudes and can find enjoyment in many game systems and many worlds.
I LOVE Star Wars and would play ANY working MMO set in the Star Wars universe. SWG NGE DOES NOT WORK, and I still pay/play that one, for historical reasons.
So yeah, if bioware makes a Star wars game, I'll give it a shot.
That being said, if it doesn't appeal to pre-CU fans, fail it will.
Thanks for your answer, but it will fail if it doesn't appeal to pre-cu fans???, i do hope you meant this sarcastic .....right?, i mean roughly taken we have 16/18million online gamers and what did we have pre-cu a mere 200/300k subscribers? hmmm.... i'm also quite sure that WOW was NOT the game many pre-cu players wanted but they addepted to it and many seem to have enjoyed or still are enjoying the game.
Well, so far Bioware hasn't done any wrong by me. I have enjoyed every Bioware game that I have played, I'm very willing to give whatever it is a chance. I can tell you that Bioware puts out quality products, even though KOTOR had some glitches in it, it was and still is one of my favorite RPG/Star Wars game of all time. That being said, if it's true about some of the old SWG devs being involved along with Rich Vogel, I'm curious about this. Could it be that LEC is wanting to try to reproduce a SWG-esque MMO? I'm hoping that's it, but even if it's not I trust Bioware to make a good game.
You know i really wan't going to post much about this... but i have to fully agree. So far bioware hasn't stepped on anyones toes I know, and certianly not mine. I have enjoyed alot of thier games and if they did make a star wars mmo.... depending on its features. I probably would try it out I trust them.
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Originally posted by Reklaw Originally posted by Fishermage
Originally posted by Reklaw
Originally posted by Fishermage
If it is Star wars, I'll give it a shot.
Even if it turns out to be a Clone Wars MMO? Kinda sceptical about what type of SW Bioware might bring, that is IF, i do think from a business point of view that a Clone Wars MMO might do allot better then a MMO based on the movies, tho i don't want it to be a Clone Wars MMO and will not play it as i never could get into the whole Clone Wars series. Also expectations of "IF" it turns out to be a SW MMO would be much higher then when it all was so new back at pre-cu, especialy with TFU coming soon and all the rest of the experiance most gamers have gained after-pre-cu, in lots of games and also the fact the overal MMO community has grown so much bigger then 10/15 years ago. So what ever they are cooking it might be something that is the total opposite of what most VETS are looking for or it might turn out into something most VETS are looking for. I just hope for the best and wait and see..... I certainly would give a clone wars MMO a shot, I would give a WoW in space clone a shot, I would give a sandbox a shot, I would give a great many games that are Star Wars a shot -- if the game isn't a broken piece of crap. like SWG, I'll play it and probably enjoy it.
I don't like the fantasy genre particularly, but I do enjoy WoW, because it WORKS as a game. I PREFER a sandbox, and if someone ever made one that works, in a world I liked, I would play that as well. I loved the SWG sandbox, and played it, flaws and all, if I could have that without the broken content, broken professions, and bugs, I would LOVE that. If I couldn't have that, I would still enjoy a WORKING less sanboxy game. I contain multitudes and can find enjoyment in many game systems and many worlds. I LOVE Star Wars and would play ANY working MMO set in the Star Wars universe. SWG NGE DOES NOT WORK, and I still pay/play that one, for historical reasons. So yeah, if bioware makes a Star wars game, I'll give it a shot. That being said, if it doesn't appeal to pre-CU fans, fail it will. Thanks for your answer, but it will fail if it doesn't appeal to pre-cu fans???, i do hope you meant this sarcastic .....right?, i mean roughly taken we have 16/18million online gamers and what did we have pre-cu a mere 200/300k subscribers? hmmm.... i'm also quite sure that WOW was NOT the game many pre-cu players wanted but they addepted to it and many seem to have enjoyed or still are enjoying the game. Nope, not sarcastic at all; pre-CU fans were a very wide group who liked the original game for many reasons, and hated the NGE for a variety of reasons as well; that being said, if the new game is something they badmouth, it'll be hard for any new SW MMO to succeed.
It certainly needs to appeal to MORE than pre-CU fans, but if it fails with them, it'll fail.
Nope, not sarcastic at all; pre-CU fans were a very wide group who liked the original game for many reasons, and hated the NGE for a variety of reasons as well; that being said, if the new game is something they badmouth, it'll be hard for any new SW MMO to succeed.
It certainly needs to appeal to MORE than pre-CU fans, but if it fails with them, it'll fail.
Well i think most people liked pre-cu becuase it was more community based. The economy was much better... due to the symbiosis between crafters and combat classes. There were a ton of social things to do... I believe that is what many of us miss a lot. nowadays it seesm to be nothing but fight this and fight that.... ok but is there anything else to do? why the fighting? Etc.
Meh... i need a good sandbox and soon lol...
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"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
Kinda sceptical about what type of SW Bioware might bring, that is IF, i do think from a business point of view that a Clone Wars MMO might do allot better then a MMO based on the movies, tho i don't want it to be a Clone Wars MMO and will not play it as i never could get into the whole Clone Wars series.
Also expectations of "IF" it turns out to be a SW MMO would be much higher then when it all was so new back at pre-cu, especialy with TFU coming soon and all the rest of the experiance most gamers have gained after-pre-cu, in lots of games and also the fact the overal MMO community has grown so much bigger then 10/15 years ago.
So what ever they are cooking it might be something that is the total opposite of what most VETS are looking for or it might turn out into something most VETS are looking for.
I just hope for the best and wait and see.....
I certainly would give a clone wars MMO a shot, I would give a WoW in space clone a shot, I would give a sandbox a shot, I would give a great many games that are Star Wars a shot -- if the game isn't a broken piece of crap. like SWG, I'll play it and probably enjoy it.
I don't like the fantasy genre particularly, but I do enjoy WoW, because it WORKS as a game. I PREFER a sandbox, and if someone ever made one that works, in a world I liked, I would play that as well. I loved the SWG sandbox, and played it, flaws and all, if I could have that without the broken content, broken professions, and bugs, I would LOVE that.
If I couldn't have that, I would still enjoy a WORKING less sanboxy game. I contain multitudes and can find enjoyment in many game systems and many worlds.
I LOVE Star Wars and would play ANY working MMO set in the Star Wars universe. SWG NGE DOES NOT WORK, and I still pay/play that one, for historical reasons.
So yeah, if bioware makes a Star wars game, I'll give it a shot.
That being said, if it doesn't appeal to pre-CU fans, fail it will.
Thanks for your answer, but it will fail if it doesn't appeal to pre-cu fans???, i do hope you meant this sarcastic .....right?, i mean roughly taken we have 16/18million online gamers and what did we have pre-cu a mere 200/300k subscribers? hmmm.... i'm also quite sure that WOW was NOT the game many pre-cu players wanted but they addepted to it and many seem to have enjoyed or still are enjoying the game.
Nope, not sarcastic at all; pre-CU fans were a very wide group who liked the original game for many reasons, and hated the NGE for a variety of reasons as well; that being said, if the new game is something they badmouth, it'll be hard for any new SW MMO to succeed.
It certainly needs to appeal to MORE than pre-CU fans, but if it fails with them, it'll fail.
Sorry, the disgruntled vet vote doesn't matter for anything anymore. After all the whining for the last three years, the only things pre-cu fans will hear when they badmouth the game will be STFU.
I'm not being absurd in the least; I'm being realistic. Markets are driven by minorities; not majorities. A vocal minority can kill your business. Any SW MMO that does not please pre-CU vets will fail due to bad viral marketing.
Sorry, but you are kidding yourself. The pre-CU vets have not driven SOE to make a pre-CU server or managed to make any dent in the player figures for any of the other SOE games - this is because non 'pre-CU Vets' (i.e. - the majority of gamers) don't actually give a rats ass about their ancient grievances and certainly aren't going to be put off playing a new SW MMO just because the relatively small clique of 'vets' are still spitting the dummy out about something that is years-old news.
How you can think otherwise (or believe in the massive self importanceof the pre-CU vets your posts suggest) or that a 'please this small group or you'll fail!!' argument is 'being realistic' is beyond me.
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no i will not
bioware is the new blizzard of the gaming world. kotor was fun yes however look at the two games they did after kotor. jade empire that didn't do all that well and mass effect is halo with a level system. not only that they have talked about how they want to make a mmo somewhat like warcraft and that is not a good sign. and i don't think they would put in anything that would made the pre-cu one of the greatest systems of all time.
rather we would get some action rpg that is kotor meets mass effect. also you know bioware is in bed with Micro$oft as they have stated alot how they love the xbox systems and how Micro$oft helps them out with everything. ea has many people who support the xbox as well. so whatever this mmo they are working on will come out on the xbox 360 and that we will have the halo kiddies on it in no time.
unless bioware tells M$ to stick it and makes a game that we want. namely pre-cu with alpha classes then it will bomb in no time.
as i have talked about before eve is going to be the template for mmo's in the next few years. something bioware has not looked at.
If it's Star Wars, I'm in.
I'd love a StarWars MMO. I'm not at all burnt out on the idea.
It's the being misled part of SWG that got old. That and all the bugs, along with promises of fixes that never come. That and the NGE and all it stands for.
Another StarWars MMO that actually works well and that isn't ripped out from under us after years of investment would be most welcome. For some it might even be some kind of corrective emotional experience to help them heal from all the SWG B.S..
I should add that the EULA will have to read much differently than SOE's. No more "we reserve the right to do whatever the hell we want at our sole discretion, and if you don't like it then F.U.. I'll be looking for a much more "user" friendly user agreement. If I don't see it, I won't pay for the service.
Really I don't think as many people give a shit what BioWare is working on ATM since we have no idea what it's about. We've been on the rumor (and hype)-o-go-round for like 2 years now. I could really give a shit less what it is at this point till they announce it. I'm not getting my hopes up anymore.
I have always been a big fan of Star Wars and it took the NGE to keep me away from its MMO.
I will certainly give it a try but I fear we will continue to see more "iconic" and "starwarsy" features in this MMO rather than what we enjoyed from PRE-CU.
I can see all the swg fans complaining because its not swg. But yes I would try it.
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I would not want a new SW MMO to be anything like SWG no matter what version of it we are talking about. Those days are gone and I am ready for something new and innovative.
it cant possibly be crapper (bad english i know) than the NGE so yes i will give it a shot.
if its sandbox then i dont care who makes it i will give it a shot
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Odds are in favor of any MMORPG with lucasarts involved will be Jedi heavy. They believe that anything Star Wars without Jedi sells not...
So for anyone that thinks a future Star Wars MMORPG will get you away from longswords and magic... Don't get your hopes up.. They are just renamed and retextured.
Yes, I'll try it and most likely like it even if it's another WoW turn out because it's Star Wars. I sure as hope to hell there's not another single MMO game out there in the near future with 3 rows of buff shit like this that makes pvp suck:
Maybe, I am going to play AoC if that game is as good as I want it to be then no. If it sucks then sure why not.
KOTOR was one of the best Star Wars games ever made... So yes, I would trust an Old Republic like MMO from Bioware.
Kinda sceptical about what type of SW Bioware might bring, that is IF, i do think from a business point of view that a Clone Wars MMO might do allot better then a MMO based on the movies, tho i don't want it to be a Clone Wars MMO and will not play it as i never could get into the whole Clone Wars series.
Also expectations of "IF" it turns out to be a SW MMO would be much higher then when it all was so new back at pre-cu, especialy with TFU coming soon and all the rest of the experiance most gamers have gained after-pre-cu, in lots of games and also the fact the overal MMO community has grown so much bigger then 10/15 years ago.
So what ever they are cooking it might be something that is the total opposite of what most VETS are looking for or it might turn out into something most VETS are looking for.
I just hope for the best and wait and see.....
I certainly would give a clone wars MMO a shot, I would give a WoW in space clone a shot, I would give a sandbox a shot, I would give a great many games that are Star Wars a shot -- if the game isn't a broken piece of crap. like SWG, I'll play it and probably enjoy it.
I don't like the fantasy genre particularly, but I do enjoy WoW, because it WORKS as a game. I PREFER a sandbox, and if someone ever made one that works, in a world I liked, I would play that as well. I loved the SWG sandbox, and played it, flaws and all, if I could have that without the broken content, broken professions, and bugs, I would LOVE that.
If I couldn't have that, I would still enjoy a WORKING less sanboxy game. I contain multitudes and can find enjoyment in many game systems and many worlds.
I LOVE Star Wars and would play ANY working MMO set in the Star Wars universe. SWG NGE DOES NOT WORK, and I still pay/play that one, for historical reasons.
So yeah, if bioware makes a Star wars game, I'll give it a shot.
That being said, if it doesn't appeal to pre-CU fans, fail it will.
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But then, given that this is all based on a rumor from 'a friend of a friend', I'm not holding my breath for a new SW MMO
I'm not being absurd in the least; I'm being realistic. Markets are driven by minorities; not majorities. A vocal minority can kill your business. Any SW MMO that does not please pre-CU vets will fail due to bad viral marketing.
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...and if they DON'T appeal to pre-CU vets, it will fail.
The majority of people playing world of warcraft right now are not "Warcraft Vets" there for I don't think its a fair assumption to say that any game has to appeal to a different games previous fan base to be successful.
Blizzard did not destroy their reputation by angering a couple of hundred thousand loyal fans. We are talking apples and oranges. The new SW game is making up for a prior business FAILURE, not building on a business success.
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the current SWG is nothing like WoW. It is a shabby copy of some features of WoW.
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the current SWG is nothing like WoW. It is a shabby copy of some features of WoW.
And it gets closer every chapter or patch, they changed the way block and parry, crit defense and tohit and such works that it's so identical to the character offense/defense rules in WoW, then added beastmaster with a pet bar exactly like WoW's, and so on. And next patch adds disabling appearance of helmet and backpack just like WoW's hide helmet and cape.
Devs are soaking up demand from the playerbase to bring back the way SWG used to be on their forums on a daily basis, but they're either ignoring it or not understand it or just plain being stupid.
the current SWG is nothing like WoW. It is a shabby copy of some features of WoW.
And it gets closer every chapter or patch, they changed the way block and parry, crit defense and tohit and such works that it's so identical to the character offense/defense rules in WoW, then added beastmaster with a pet bar exactly like WoW's, and so on. And next patch adds disabling appearance of helmet and backpack just like WoW's hide helmet and cape.
Devs are soaking up demand from the playerbase to bring back the way SWG used to be on their forums on a daily basis, but they're either ignoring it or not understand it or just plain being stupid.
It doesn't get closer to WoW with every patch though, it gets closer to a poor man's version of WoW (sorta, but not even that good). All they do is add poorly copied FEATURES of WoW, without any of the reasons for WoW's success (quality of product, concentric circle player focus, thousands of quests, PvP at all play levels).
It's cnot getting MORE like WoW, just less like SWG.
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Kinda sceptical about what type of SW Bioware might bring, that is IF, i do think from a business point of view that a Clone Wars MMO might do allot better then a MMO based on the movies, tho i don't want it to be a Clone Wars MMO and will not play it as i never could get into the whole Clone Wars series.
Also expectations of "IF" it turns out to be a SW MMO would be much higher then when it all was so new back at pre-cu, especialy with TFU coming soon and all the rest of the experiance most gamers have gained after-pre-cu, in lots of games and also the fact the overal MMO community has grown so much bigger then 10/15 years ago.
So what ever they are cooking it might be something that is the total opposite of what most VETS are looking for or it might turn out into something most VETS are looking for.
I just hope for the best and wait and see.....
I certainly would give a clone wars MMO a shot, I would give a WoW in space clone a shot, I would give a sandbox a shot, I would give a great many games that are Star Wars a shot -- if the game isn't a broken piece of crap. like SWG, I'll play it and probably enjoy it.
I don't like the fantasy genre particularly, but I do enjoy WoW, because it WORKS as a game. I PREFER a sandbox, and if someone ever made one that works, in a world I liked, I would play that as well. I loved the SWG sandbox, and played it, flaws and all, if I could have that without the broken content, broken professions, and bugs, I would LOVE that.
If I couldn't have that, I would still enjoy a WORKING less sanboxy game. I contain multitudes and can find enjoyment in many game systems and many worlds.
I LOVE Star Wars and would play ANY working MMO set in the Star Wars universe. SWG NGE DOES NOT WORK, and I still pay/play that one, for historical reasons.
So yeah, if bioware makes a Star wars game, I'll give it a shot.
That being said, if it doesn't appeal to pre-CU fans, fail it will.
Thanks for your answer, but it will fail if it doesn't appeal to pre-cu fans???, i do hope you meant this sarcastic .....right?, i mean roughly taken we have 16/18million online gamers and what did we have pre-cu a mere 200/300k subscribers? hmmm.... i'm also quite sure that WOW was NOT the game many pre-cu players wanted but they addepted to it and many seem to have enjoyed or still are enjoying the game.
You know i really wan't going to post much about this... but i have to fully agree. So far bioware hasn't stepped on anyones toes I know, and certianly not mine. I have enjoyed alot of thier games and if they did make a star wars mmo.... depending on its features. I probably would try it out
I trust them.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
Kinda sceptical about what type of SW Bioware might bring, that is IF, i do think from a business point of view that a Clone Wars MMO might do allot better then a MMO based on the movies, tho i don't want it to be a Clone Wars MMO and will not play it as i never could get into the whole Clone Wars series.
Also expectations of "IF" it turns out to be a SW MMO would be much higher then when it all was so new back at pre-cu, especialy with TFU coming soon and all the rest of the experiance most gamers have gained after-pre-cu, in lots of games and also the fact the overal MMO community has grown so much bigger then 10/15 years ago.
So what ever they are cooking it might be something that is the total opposite of what most VETS are looking for or it might turn out into something most VETS are looking for.
I just hope for the best and wait and see.....
I certainly would give a clone wars MMO a shot, I would give a WoW in space clone a shot, I would give a sandbox a shot, I would give a great many games that are Star Wars a shot -- if the game isn't a broken piece of crap. like SWG, I'll play it and probably enjoy it.
I don't like the fantasy genre particularly, but I do enjoy WoW, because it WORKS as a game. I PREFER a sandbox, and if someone ever made one that works, in a world I liked, I would play that as well. I loved the SWG sandbox, and played it, flaws and all, if I could have that without the broken content, broken professions, and bugs, I would LOVE that.
If I couldn't have that, I would still enjoy a WORKING less sanboxy game. I contain multitudes and can find enjoyment in many game systems and many worlds.
I LOVE Star Wars and would play ANY working MMO set in the Star Wars universe. SWG NGE DOES NOT WORK, and I still pay/play that one, for historical reasons.
So yeah, if bioware makes a Star wars game, I'll give it a shot.
That being said, if it doesn't appeal to pre-CU fans, fail it will.
Thanks for your answer, but it will fail if it doesn't appeal to pre-cu fans???, i do hope you meant this sarcastic .....right?, i mean roughly taken we have 16/18million online gamers and what did we have pre-cu a mere 200/300k subscribers? hmmm.... i'm also quite sure that WOW was NOT the game many pre-cu players wanted but they addepted to it and many seem to have enjoyed or still are enjoying the game.
Nope, not sarcastic at all; pre-CU fans were a very wide group who liked the original game for many reasons, and hated the NGE for a variety of reasons as well; that being said, if the new game is something they badmouth, it'll be hard for any new SW MMO to succeed.
It certainly needs to appeal to MORE than pre-CU fans, but if it fails with them, it'll fail.
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It certainly needs to appeal to MORE than pre-CU fans, but if it fails with them, it'll fail.
Well i think most people liked pre-cu becuase it was more community based. The economy was much better... due to the symbiosis between crafters and combat classes. There were a ton of social things to do... I believe that is what many of us miss a lot. nowadays it seesm to be nothing but fight this and fight that.... ok but is there anything else to do? why the fighting? Etc.
Meh... i need a good sandbox and soon lol...
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
Kinda sceptical about what type of SW Bioware might bring, that is IF, i do think from a business point of view that a Clone Wars MMO might do allot better then a MMO based on the movies, tho i don't want it to be a Clone Wars MMO and will not play it as i never could get into the whole Clone Wars series.
Also expectations of "IF" it turns out to be a SW MMO would be much higher then when it all was so new back at pre-cu, especialy with TFU coming soon and all the rest of the experiance most gamers have gained after-pre-cu, in lots of games and also the fact the overal MMO community has grown so much bigger then 10/15 years ago.
So what ever they are cooking it might be something that is the total opposite of what most VETS are looking for or it might turn out into something most VETS are looking for.
I just hope for the best and wait and see.....
I certainly would give a clone wars MMO a shot, I would give a WoW in space clone a shot, I would give a sandbox a shot, I would give a great many games that are Star Wars a shot -- if the game isn't a broken piece of crap. like SWG, I'll play it and probably enjoy it.
I don't like the fantasy genre particularly, but I do enjoy WoW, because it WORKS as a game. I PREFER a sandbox, and if someone ever made one that works, in a world I liked, I would play that as well. I loved the SWG sandbox, and played it, flaws and all, if I could have that without the broken content, broken professions, and bugs, I would LOVE that.
If I couldn't have that, I would still enjoy a WORKING less sanboxy game. I contain multitudes and can find enjoyment in many game systems and many worlds.
I LOVE Star Wars and would play ANY working MMO set in the Star Wars universe. SWG NGE DOES NOT WORK, and I still pay/play that one, for historical reasons.
So yeah, if bioware makes a Star wars game, I'll give it a shot.
That being said, if it doesn't appeal to pre-CU fans, fail it will.
Thanks for your answer, but it will fail if it doesn't appeal to pre-cu fans???, i do hope you meant this sarcastic .....right?, i mean roughly taken we have 16/18million online gamers and what did we have pre-cu a mere 200/300k subscribers? hmmm.... i'm also quite sure that WOW was NOT the game many pre-cu players wanted but they addepted to it and many seem to have enjoyed or still are enjoying the game.
Nope, not sarcastic at all; pre-CU fans were a very wide group who liked the original game for many reasons, and hated the NGE for a variety of reasons as well; that being said, if the new game is something they badmouth, it'll be hard for any new SW MMO to succeed.
It certainly needs to appeal to MORE than pre-CU fans, but if it fails with them, it'll fail.
Sorry, the disgruntled vet vote doesn't matter for anything anymore. After all the whining for the last three years, the only things pre-cu fans will hear when they badmouth the game will be STFU.
I'm not being absurd in the least; I'm being realistic. Markets are driven by minorities; not majorities. A vocal minority can kill your business. Any SW MMO that does not please pre-CU vets will fail due to bad viral marketing.Sorry, but you are kidding yourself. The pre-CU vets have not driven SOE to make a pre-CU server or managed to make any dent in the player figures for any of the other SOE games - this is because non 'pre-CU Vets' (i.e. - the majority of gamers) don't actually give a rats ass about their ancient grievances and certainly aren't going to be put off playing a new SW MMO just because the relatively small clique of 'vets' are still spitting the dummy out about something that is years-old news.
How you can think otherwise (or believe in the massive self importanceof the pre-CU vets your posts suggest) or that a 'please this small group or you'll fail!!' argument is 'being realistic' is beyond me.
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