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Illyrian
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... no, really I do.
One weekend getting spoon fed PvP in controlled and limited environment and dozens of posts crop up with labels like "best game ever!".
Right, yes, of course it is, and advertisement that this weekend PvP was has nothing with building up the hype.
The game might or might not be as good as PvP weekend (and even that one had some issues) but at any rate this limited experience is hardly a measure for the whole product. Promo events like this usually present the best segment of the game and to honest what info I got on other pieces is none that grand.
I prefer to hear argumented naysayers becasue fans will give me the spin on the official hype jingle. Yes, I like to hear both sides of the story since I doubt that any product comming out these days can be ZOMFG amazing.
Wait until the game releases and you try more then battle ground style, semi twich combat and single player linear intro. Judging by received information I don't beleive the game is going to be the next generation of amazing, I also don't beleive it will be new VG. I do think that the game will get a large number of creeps due to gore and nudity content.
Wait and see, flame on if you will, I don't plan to respond:)
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And your current game of choice is?
The game is "shiney" but very much IMHO felt guildwars-esque. Only way I personally can describe how it felt to me. The depth of the game from what small window we were granted is not there... I just didn't "feel it".
Sure when things were running smooth it was all crazy wild and fun, but honestly they focused on THIS one aspect of the game to show the yearning masses, and it was such a small slice it makes me wonder not "what else is there" in a I wanna know way, but "Why didn't I get to see more? What's missing?" sort of way.
I have HOPES this game does well, anything to pull the market from the WOW path it's taking, WAR is next up to beat back the wow gameplay (I'll admit I have that one CE Pre-orderedx2) but still...
I'm gonna wait on this one, maybe get it on it's native target platform, the 360.
Always change your signature.
Ihad this CE ordered as well as WAR for my ife and I. We both cancelled this ones CE till much after release if ever. I hear what you re saying as far as GW like and i ll have to wait and see. I ve tested WAR so i know that won t be cancelled:) but thats another story.
Why start and discussion in an discussion forum if you do not plan on responding? Anyhow let me first state that I have not beta tested the game, not closed beta and not the PvP weekend. I do slightly agree with the OP that the game can not be judged on one weekend of PvP and it surly can not be classified as "game of the year". I do however believe that the PvP weekend give a good indication of how the game will feel when released especialy so close to release and considering PvP will be a vital part of the game for many players.
Also I disagree that there will be a large amount of creeps (Well not becouse of the nudity atleast
), becouse I really doubt people would somewhat be interested in staring at virtual boobs and this is being pulled out of content. I am happy Funcom does this instead (Not the boobs per say, but the gore) of nerving there games so it has a lower rating like many MMO's do.
However the nudity might attract some immature people true, but nothing more or less then those people dancing around in underwear in games like Guild Wars, WoW, etc. Anyway if you see an female character running around without an top you can be pretty sure it is an male gamer...so the nudity does have pro's :P
I love haters.
"Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
^MMORPG.com
You want negative and naysayers? You have come to the mothership sir. Enjoy. I've never seen such a bitter negative group as the general pop. of the posters on this site.
Edit: Especially the SWG "veterans". Holy crap. You'd think it was their girlfriend of 5 years that left them for their best friend, got married and had a kid or two.
@OP: Yes, and as always there is also viral marketing fueling the fanbois. You know FC's people are also posting in these threads, don't you?.
I have the same scary questions and hopes for the game as the above posters. I really have high hopes for this game.
You were "shown" this part because that's what needed to be tested.
It was not a demo. It was not for the public's benefit. It was a test designed to gather information on a specific part of the game's mechanics, nothing more.
99% of the game remains unseen at this point, and all we have to go on is advertised features, DEV posts and interviews, etc.
When the game is unveiled....then we shall see. Until then it's all pointless speculation and rumors.
And that is for them to decide to like or not. I for one was dubious from day one of all the grandiose promises, and my first real hands on time with game hasn't changed that. It might just ROCK the SOCKS off some folks and more power to them.
Always change your signature.
You were "shown" this part because that's what needed to be tested.
It was not a demo. It was not for the public's benefit. It was a test designed to gather information on a specific part of the game's mechanics, nothing more.
99% of the game remains unseen at this point, and all we have to go on is advertised features, DEV posts and interviews, etc.
When the game is unveiled....then we shall see. Until then it's all pointless speculation and rumors.
REALLY? Just a TEST? No WAY MAN!Seriously I know what it was, and I am giving my impressions of such. You CLAIM it was but a test, BS I call and you know it. It was also a publicity stunt to generate interest in the game. And it interested me enough to look see at it and I give my honest view of what I saw. It's btw not pointless to give ones impression, I did not say this is GW2 ZOMG it's going to SUCK! When people like you come running in to defend so vehmently like this I just shudder at the ghosts of Vanguard and get chills.
Always change your signature.
The PvP weekend gave a good indication the the participants on how the combat system works. Yes, it's early stage, but the general elements are there to be examined and explored.
I'm also sure that it gave the developers a clear indication on which classes a 10k+ random selection of people would pick to play in the limited timeframe and limited gameplay. I assume that useful information can be derived from the data analysis regarding initial expectations of the player base.
Funcom's calling these things "primarily" a test. Of course it a marketing ploy too, or there wouldn't have been pre-order prompts after entering the PvP lobby.
It was a test and a marketing ploy, which it was more of who knows, but I'd wager test since it probably would make more sense to involve as many folks as possible if throwing around pre-order offers was the main objective.
15k people ain't a whole lot for a marketing ploy.
It was a PvP BETA TEST.....in the interest of balance issues, and the like.You were "shown" this part because that's what needed to be tested.
It was not a demo. It was not for the public's benefit. It was a test designed to gather information on a specific part of the game's mechanics, nothing more.
99% of the game remains unseen at this point, and all we have to go on is advertised features, DEV posts and interviews, etc.
When the game is unveiled....then we shall see. Until then it's all pointless speculation and rumors.
REALLY? Just a TEST? No WAY MAN!Seriously I know what it was, and I am giving my impressions of such. You CLAIM it was but a test, BS I call and you know it. It was also a publicity stunt to generate interest in the game. And it interested me enough to look see at it and I give my honest view of what I saw. It's btw not pointless to give ones impression, I did not say this is GW2 ZOMG it's going to SUCK! When people like you come running in to defend so vehmently like this I just shudder at the ghosts of Vanguard and get chills.
I think you're overreacting, and I would hardly call my post a "defense". I simply stated facts.
I state facts, you see it at a "vehement defense"...FC posts a PVP tech test, you see it as a "publicity stunt".
I call things as I see them, and you call them as suits your agenda.
Who says fanbois, says trolls - they are the same thing. One are... dreaming with a wekeend, others just bash without beeing in... but, who cares about this? I wonder how lot of post about the "best game ever", and the lot others like "this sucks". Lot of two... and the game isnt released, and lot of this OPS ever played it... sensless...
You were "shown" this part because that's what needed to be tested.
It was not a demo. It was not for the public's benefit. It was a test designed to gather information on a specific part of the game's mechanics, nothing more.
99% of the game remains unseen at this point, and all we have to go on is advertised features, DEV posts and interviews, etc.
When the game is unveiled....then we shall see. Until then it's all pointless speculation and rumors.
REALLY? Just a TEST? No WAY MAN!Seriously I know what it was, and I am giving my impressions of such. You CLAIM it was but a test, BS I call and you know it. It was also a publicity stunt to generate interest in the game. And it interested me enough to look see at it and I give my honest view of what I saw. It's btw not pointless to give ones impression, I did not say this is GW2 ZOMG it's going to SUCK! When people like you come running in to defend so vehmently like this I just shudder at the ghosts of Vanguard and get chills.
I think you're overreacting, and I would hardly call my post a "defense". I simply stated facts.
I state facts, you see it at a "vehement defense"...FC posts a PVP tech test, you see it as a "publicity stunt".
I call things as I see them, and you call them as suits your agenda.
This is beautifully stated. There are to many people out there with an agenda, trying to push their game on others by ridiculing other games. It's fairly easy to read someones comments and determine whether they are being factual and/or giving an unbiased opinion, or trying to spew hate because the success of a given game will mean failure for theirs.
I TOTALLY agree. FC is trying to hide all their shortcomings.
What have seen of this game? Starter areas 1-15ish and Capture the Flag action. Over and over and over...
This is what we saw a year ago at leipzig.. even way before that... what is new?
I think this game is bug hell when it launches, late game content not done and FC will need to work around the clock to fix all the broken pieces..
what is there to do at later levels. Did they even TEST the sieges well? Did they test the player cities?
Will this game launch completely unbalanced? Will the first year = nerf nerf nerf?
Sooo many questions out there...
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Okay. So, at first, the NDA is in effect, there are naysayers everywhere. Then the NDA is lifted for the PvP weekend event, and there are naysayers.
The only difference? Every other post is about how good the event actually was and how there were little to no bugs. Not only that, but the bugs that were found.. well, most of them were fixed before the weekend was even over.
My point?
No matter what happens. Even after a great showing this weekend, there are always going to be trolls who simply cannot accept that Funcom might actually have a very good game on their hands. I encountered getting stuck once and I also found a place where you can fall through the world. Though, those were places I shouldn't have tried to go. And neither of those two things effected the gameplay in the slightest. We were shown the first five levels and controlled PvP environments using level 20 characters. From what I saw, not only did it look great ( - Dx10 ), but it also played pretty nicely as well. The animations were good, the UI was pretty attractive, and their combat system wasn't nearly as hard to learn as I first though. What exactly can you take away as being a huge negative? Why do people use that as an excuse to say, "Well, it was marketing, they only showed you what they wanted to show you in order to build hype" Even if that's true, it's a pretty good indication that if they can have a near flawless weekend beta, then at some point, the entire game could and should play very similarly. Which means only good things will come.
I mean, get in the way of your own ignorance if you must. It won't hurt me any. I'll be playing and you can continue complaining about stupid things. Oh, by the way. Xbox 360 isn't it's native platform. The 360 version isn't even out of it's beta stages.
Is it really going to hurt any of the complainers if the 60-80 levels are a little unpolished? Maybe there are a few bugs in those zones? Does it matter that your level 15 characters would see problems if they were in an area surrounded by level 60 mobs? Oh wait, you can't get there yet. Sieges, well, are you planning on sieging at level 20? No, you can't. What is the point of claiming things when you can't back it up. It's all speculation, you're just pissing into the wind. You're crying wolf, do you get the point?
OMG, there are bugs in the level 80 dungeon raid!!! I hate this game!! I'm only level 6!!
Some people cant handle the fact that they are a minority in opposing this game and nothing they can say or do will stop it being successful. Sorry that hurts. Sorry if people get hyped up over a test weekend and that bothers you.
Why do some people feel the need to say the same thing over and over again in a negative way? Yea.. we got you the first time you posted it...
Its true though, wait for the full game then even more people will be ecstatic
It's really hard for me to see how anyone could say this game is the greatest thing ever or this game is a failure based just on this weekends test. If you feel that strongly one way or the other you probably had that opinion to some degree all along. What I saw was enough to keep me following the game but I haven't ordered a copy yet. I'll wait to see the feedback if or when the NDA is lifted from the limited closed open beta.
I won t argue that. The problem with every game is the power levelers. Some people WILL reach max level fast and whine theres nothing to do or it s bugged or unpolished etc. I have no clue if this game is like that at ed game but a game shouldn t release with end game not ready. All developers nowadays should realize these PL ers exist now and are word of mouth advertiseing for your game, people on the fence that don t buy waiting to hear stuff will ultimately see that and some won t buy because of it. Also the human race usually sees the negative in most things so if you have someone on the fence reading 40 good things all it takes for alot of people is to see 1 bad thing to make them go no way on buying this. I ll admit this weekend event was not so great IMO. This is my right to not like something others may but i tend to get swayed to the bad things i read or see especially after i have experienced them. The game is good, not groundbreaking or THE BEST as some are saying, but thats how i feel, noone can change that. I ll post how i feel after the OB , if it changes great i ll go get my preorder back i cancelled. That said no game should release with end game incomplete, those power levelers will deter some on the fence i ve seen it a million times
The funny, and encouraging thing is that prior to the beta weekend the naysayers where bashing the hell out of the game and saying its the next vanguard and stuff (although these people didnt reappear). However after witnessing pvp beta, the worst post is about how AoC has a few bugs (duh!) will have an acceptable launch, though not satisfying the hype, and is nothing special though it might just be a "fun" game for awhile blablabla.... Well I expect this trend to continue.
Not to get in the mix here but you act like you are the sole authority. We cant know yet if people will be more or less ecstatic when the game launches.
I think all signs are clearly that there will be tons of negativity if the game is very raw and unpolished after the starter areas. Or if the only think semi bug free is the capture the flag minigames. Or what if the endgame is shallow or unfulfilling?
Players arent as forgiving as they were in the late nineties. Really. And they shouldnt be. We shouldnt have to pay anymore for half finished products just because developers cant control their budget and project.
I really hope u r right. However as much as you claim otherwise it does look pretty grim.
Funcom cant even control their PREORDERS. They have made a mess of that. And they have created a nonsensical "OPEN" beta for fileplanet subscribers leaving people like me out in the cold. Not that I cant pay the dough. I have enough. Just the principle. It is really not right that one follows the game for 1+ year and then have to sign up to fileplanet for getting a shot at open beta? WTF !?!?!?
You have the right for your fanboism and great for you to have been hopnobbing with the FC boys in their office and yes they let you play with their toy... HOWEVER there is also room for criticism.
Criticism is not attempt to take anything away from you. BUT elusive and dodgy game development with poor PR and management is NOT a think to be glad about. We as players either should demand more openess in the proces or not pick the damn thing up till someone actually playtested it and made a review.
I will probably drop my PREORDER due to the way FC has done business this time around.
Lots of people wouldnt buy a car, paying for a year of insurance without knowing what they get. Insurance and an mmo cost about the same. Wouldnt you want to read or at least understand the highlights of the fine print of your insurance before getting it.
IN ONE aspect you are right though Avery, they certainly did a great job policing each thread directly or indirectly and made a helluva PR job choking all the obvious signs of trouble...
Hear no evil...
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Some people feel that even though some things may appeal to them, they decides to hate them instead because they want to "Appear different" from the rest of the crowd.
I learned my first two years in high school, that if you just act the way you want, and like whatever you want to like ( for any reason, because others are doing it or not), then it doesnt matter what anyone else says.
I was really well liked, in my class, not because I was the "Badass" or the "Cool guy" because I just acted like myself, and chose to like whatever I wanted. Heavy Metal, and Video games for life.
Plus who cares anyway, I come to these boards because I get a sense of fellowship from the people here. We all have something in common( most of us), we all like AoC. Even if we havent played it, we have a general intrest, a hope for a great new mmo. Thats something special, at least to me it is.
To all the others in wait of AoC, to all the rest of you who share at least one thing, or many things, in common with me. I salute you.
/salute
-Jive
This is not gonna always be true, A female gamer could be RP'ing a female in the world of conan. I don't know if you read any of the stories by robert e. howard but pretty much when a female character was introduced he decribed them as being topless or barely clothed if at all. While i agree that most of the time you can be safe to say its a guy but i wouldn't say all of them for those real females that may RP a conanesque woman
I cheked that out and had an interview.This is not gonna always be true, A female gamer could be RP'ing a female in the world of conan. I don't know if you read any of the stories by robert e. howard but pretty much when a female character was introduced he decribed them as being topless or barely clothed if at all. While i agree that most of the time you can be safe to say its a guy but i wouldn't say all of them for those real females that may RP a conanesque woman
A female player most probably will have a naked bath somewhere in a hidden pool. Maybe playing with the thoughs baout the big guy comming steeling her cloth... However, i was told a female never would run naked into battle or through a city unless she gets payed for it or is drunken/druged beyond blackout.
Go ask the Missus