I'll play because there is nothing else out right now that is worth a damn and LoTRO is getting boring. Also I had a lot of fun at the PvP weekend and want some more. Sorry for those of you who don't want to play a 60 dollar game anymore. If its totally horrible I lose around 75 dollars for the game and first month. I make more than that in a couple days and I am a student lol!
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i just cant get it into my big thick skull why people keep complaining about they "have" to pay for the beta. You are not paying for the Beta your paying for a faster way to download patches,games,stuff thingy ect. it just happens that inclued into all this there is a chance that you might be lucky enough to also enter the beta of certains games, In this case AOC. if it is so bad to pay for that service then...dont? noone is forcing anyone to pay for the beta, your buying a service that inclued the chance of beta testing games, not AOC specific. Also the gaming studios are not required to make an open beta, it is just an "easy" and simple way to quickly get 10.000+ people to stress test your network, just be happy that they do give us a chance of helping them and for us a chance to get a sneakpeak at a game. so in the end: Quit whining about paying for a beta because your not, and quit whining about this not being an open beta because they are not required to give us one.
Its just a little bit too convenient. yes, technically FC isn't charging for beta. Somebody else does. And that somebody would just make a donation into FC development fund.
If FC really wanted to distribute their client and really did want to get the BEST help to test their product, they would hire those who CARED about AoC - fans, active posters, guilds, people who actually WILL play and test, and not someone who paid for FP premium account, who never heard about AOC but who got a key to join in and who may never actually get passed the login screen or even download it (13 gigs anyone?)
Its just unfair to the fans. Its sneaky and hypocritical and greedy. That about sums it up how I feel about all these shenanigans. Some may call this "whining", I call this "WTF, some trying to trick us and lie to us. We are not idiots."
If they really cared about the beta, they wouldn't take advice from a bunch of upset F2P open beta kiddies.
Its not about advice, its about testing. OB is for testing unfinished/unpolished product. Its a paid (usually) process, paid TO the testers... except in a gaming world, where OBs seem to turn around and testers pay to the developers to test their games.... WTF??? Its like going to a clinic to be a blood donor and pay for it. Or getting your nuts hit with a baseball bat and.. paying for it!
Holy crap, I haven't seen like this for a long time. Some of you really need to just sit back and reflect upon how childish you are behaving
How is this such a big deal? I was all set to sit back and wait for release/pre-order day and let those who choose to subscribe to FP carry on. As it turns out I was lucky enough to win the comp.
I dont see much going on here. I see mature arguments and counter-arguments. I am actually very pleasantly surprised at the low number of flames or childish behavior about FC and their OB decision.
The way I see it the reason for 13 level cap for open beta trial is geography: You are not able to leave Tortage, so you do (or at least should) not need the content that comes after Tortage. So basically what we are getting is the pvp weekend client with full Tortage and no autolevel-to-20-script. (Whether or not there is more content in the client is a whole other thing.) A client like that will let Funcom stress test a zone without having to worry about people spreading too thin. First part of destiny quest should give one a good taste for the AoC story and character development, after all this is beta and not free trial.
Good point.
As for the whole Fileplanet angle... it is silly. If you do not have Fileplanet subscription and do not wish to pay for one do not take part in open beta. How hard can that be? Yes it could have been handled differently, but it is Funcom's game and they are allowed to handle the beta as they see fit. Again, learn live with it.
And again, a lot of people like yourself dont seem to understand what direction the whole upset feeling is coming from. It is not the fact that OB is not actually an open beta (well, not entirely the only reason), but rather how the fanbase was treated.
Ok, imagine you are an avid fan of a football club. You go to their plays, you even attend their trainings. They notice you. You help them by getting coffee, drinks, moving furniture... small stuff. They know you by name now, and they promise you to give you all season ticket (theres only one ticket available).
Now, how would you feel if you would see some hotshot rich boy who just happend to have a grand in his wallet paying for their uniforms and grabbing that ticket you dreamed about? Unless of course the coach told you if you were to give 1500$, then the ticked would still be yours. Would you just shrug off and go home? Or would you rather be pissed? Sure, they didnt do anything wrong. They needed uniforms. And technically, you arent being FORCED to pay for it. Its your choice. How would you feel?
The only bad thing about the Fileplanet beta I can agree on is the horrible way Fileplanet chose to distribute the keys. Forcing people to either run their faulty comrade program or camp the signup page is just too much and I have expected much better from them. So my disappointment (even though I did get my key) is fully on Fileplanet side.
Ok for all the people saying why didn't Funcom just host the file themself its only 50k people, they say they are ready for 600k to patch on launch day.... Currently the patch will be 400mb. the full client is 13gigs
13 gigs divided by 400mb comes out to like 32.5.... 32.5x50000= 1625000
For all those who don't see what i am getting at here... 50k people downloading a 13 gig file is like 1.6 million people at launch day... it would be a mess on there servers with the addition of people they have in beta downloading the patches and trying to actually play the game. They sent the file out to a server farm that could handle the load, that server farm decided to charge for its useage... that isn't really funcom doing that, its fileplanet.
I understand alot of folks wana play the game, but tell me how is the fileplanets beta at 5 dollars different then preordering a game and canceling it cuz you didn't like it? Costs you money either way.... Gaming companys do not HAVE to have an open beta they do it cuz its a nice look for the public... Do not try to say things like "they owe it to us" or "this is crap we shouldn't have to pay to play a beta" cuz honestly.... would you guys just prefer there was no public beta at all?
Do you guys HONESTLY believe that Funcom are making money off the Beta? It's the standard Fileplanet subscription fee .... not a fee to play the AoC Beta?
You lot need to get some perspective and stop being such a bunch of cheap arsed parasites who just want to play a game for FREE for a month.
I feel for the guy, his team is busting there humps and the lard ass idiots that live in their Mom's basement and could not get a job beyond Pizza Hut actually are given the credibility to question them. That's why I would never dream of game design as a career. Enterprise software designers work less hours make more money, and when they are called into question, it is from a professional...not some mouth breathing fry cook with no life. Said it many times. Love games hate most gamers.
LOL, love the cut of yer jib. Nice retort to the negatrons.
However, they "the consumers" have the power to make or break a game. They may live in their mamma's basement but they are hardcore slayas when it comes to felling mmo giants. David and Goliath man, (lard ass) Davids and Goliath man.
Ok for all the people saying why didn't Funcom just host the file themself its only 50k people, they say they are ready for 600k to patch on launch day.... Currently the patch will be 400mb. the full client is 13gigs 13 gigs divided by 400mb comes out to like 32.5.... 32.5x50000= 1625000 For all those who don't see what i am getting at here... 50k people downloading a 13 gig file is like 1.6 million people at launch day... it would be a mess on there servers with the addition of people they have in beta downloading the patches and trying to actually play the game. They sent the file out to a server farm that could handle the load, that server farm decided to charge for its useage... that isn't really funcom doing that, its fileplanet.
I understand alot of folks wana play the game, but tell me how is the fileplanets beta at 5 dollars different then preordering a game and canceling it cuz you didn't like it? Costs you money either way.... Gaming companys do not HAVE to have an open beta they do it cuz its a nice look for the public... Do not try to say things like "they owe it to us" or "this is crap we shouldn't have to pay to play a beta" cuz honestly.... would you guys just prefer there was no public beta at all?
While you're math is right, it still doesn't explain why they didn't torrent out the beta client.
In fact, seeding out the torrent from the login servers / game servers is great way to stress test the bandwidth of a server.
Oh, and it takes like 10 minutes to set up. If that's too hard for FunCom, I'm worried about what would happen with a real technical problem. :P
to be honest i get the feeling these deals with file planet will be the way of the future when it comes to open betas . personally i cant see the point in paying a years sub just to get to play the game a few weeks earlier than everyone else . if think the more important issue if they go down this route is to offer a weeks free trial on release to everyone . if they dont do this accusations that they have something to hide will be levelled at them . already these forums are full of people doubting thier pc will actually play the game .a badly handled release can effect a games popularity .
the strange thing is we all know these simple facts but sometimes the people who market mmos are totally clueless to them .
I personally would not play any game that was only available from Fileplanet.
1. Fileplanet requires that you register. Giving your personal information to a third party for a one off download is asking a lot.
2. AFTER obtaining your personal information, you then find out you cannot download without paying a fee for a service you may not use again.
3. In addition, when I recently tried to download an old MMO, I found out after further investigation that the game was actually no longer available for download even though the MMO official site said it was available from Fileplanet. Luckily, I had not paid the $5.
"" if think the more important issue if they go down this route is to offer a weeks free trial on release to everyone . if they dont do this accusations that they have something to hide will be levelled at them . ""
Will never happen. For the same reason a free download will likely never happen. They want/need that initial box purchase to help offset the cost of development. Thats why free trials are usually started months after release. Even if they arent trying to hide something I just dont see it happening.
Haha can't believe people are whining about a open beta, be glad that they even have one. This new generation of MMO players should just stick to their xbox or counter-strike and quit ruining MMOs with your whiny attitudes.
This is not a trial, this is not a privilege, it's a beta. If anyone feels like canceling their pre-order because of this go ahead, just one brat less playing the game.
Holy crap, I haven't seen like this for a long time. Some of you really need to just sit back and reflect upon how childish you are behaving
How is this such a big deal? I was all set to sit back and wait for release/pre-order day and let those who choose to subscribe to FP carry on. As it turns out I was lucky enough to win the comp.
I dont see much going on here. I see mature arguments and counter-arguments. I am actually very pleasantly surprised at the low number of flames or childish behavior about FC and their OB decision.
Sorry mate, I see it differently, I see page after page with posts from spoilt crybabies who are canceling pre-orders, not buying this game and prophocising the downfall of AoC simply because they wont get to PLAY it for free.
As you rightly pointed out earlier open beta is for testing, testing how your network will handle large amounts of traffic and to see if there are any nasty bugs as a result of a higher population than closed sessions. Open beta is not, as some people seem to think, a consumer right nor is it a genuine oppertunity to play the game for free to decide if you like it or not. Granted some games have used a genuinely open beta as a way of generating a consumer base before launch, Funcom haven't, big deal!
People complaining about being "mis-sold" this because of the unannounced lvl 13 cap need a reality check or to seek psychiatric help.
It is in my opinion that Funcom made a smart move here by sub letting their client distribution to Fileplanet. I do not subscribe to the service myself, but have used it before and in this case had the fortune to win a VIP account, the system works flawlessly. It seems only reasonable that Fileplanet should get something in return, which they did in the form of the exclusive rights to the keys for this "open beta".
...snip... if think the more important issue if they go down this route is to offer a weeks free trial on release to everyone . the strange thing is we all know these simple facts but sometimes the people who market mmos are totally clueless to them .
as are some of the people that play them by the looks of your reasoning
Can't people just be honest here? Just own up to the fact that you are throwing "hissy fits" because you wont get to play it early.
YOU ARE NOT FUNCOM, it's their choice, it's their multi million dollar project, and they can do as they please with it..
Besides, fileplanet betas has been like this before, you will have to be a subscriber..It may or may not be bad choice from Funcom, but it's their choice, simple...
When did you last try GTA IV for free ? The whole game ?
Or Crysis or Bioshock or Oblivion ???
You didn't you bought them anyway...
So, what's the diffrence ?
There is no diffrence at all..
Well, AoC is a MMO, but in the purchase you will get ONE MONTH FREE playtime, One month is more than most people even play the above games..One Month should be enough time for you as a customer to deiceide if the game is good or bad....
See, you buy all sorts of games without getting a FREE LOOK at the entire gameworld or how the game may or may not run on your computers..
And it's NOT that AoC cost's more than the above games, it costs as much as them..
It's not that you are signing a contract with the devil when you purchase AoC, you will not be bound with that game forever...
And, If you pre order, it's up to YOU..And if you cancel for these reasons you are just very unmature and childish..Or you are on a tight leech with your parents money....
What I find funny is fileplanet has done this many times before for many different games and you have to be a subscriber to get the keys. I have been a subscriber for 5 years so this was nothing new to me.
I downloaded this client at speeds of up to 850kb a sec. I was a tech tester and took longer to download that client. It was larger though.
I see nothing wrong in what they have done to distribute the client for "open beta" which by the way they said all along they would never have a open beta. So I do believe they just worded it wrong causing the kids to cry and the bashing to start.
Good luck see you all in final as I already preordered just from what I saw in 3 hours of the tech test.
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Anyone else notice all the fanbois with like.... 12 posts are coming out of the woodworks? Quite interesting if you ask me. I think its funny that some of you think that they aren't getting money out of this deal. You are stupid. I really hate to say that, being positive most of the time, but you are. They ARE making money off this... not directly, but its being given to them by fileplanet due to some pre arranged agreement.
As for the comment about fileplanet always doing it this way, you are wrong. Please get your facts right before posting. More than 85% of the time the only thing you need from fileplanet to join a beta is a free membership. If they were trying to go by age validation, this way would be just as legit as the paid method. So why use the paid method again? OH.. thats RIGHT... money...
Sorry, I don't buy it. testers shouldnt pay to beta test, its actually the other way around. But since people love games, most are happy with just a chance to play it for free... and gain knowledge.
Bad move funcom, bad move.
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Yeah the people putting themselves on pedestals, complaining about the complainers.. I always loved that stuff. "Rawr I'm more mature, sorry if I'm missing the real point, you guys suck for crying."
I can't say that I'm planning on playing AoC, nor have I followed that closely, but I can say that I understand the concern from the fanbase because a lot of what I see is very unconventional in comparison to games I've followed (beta'd) through the development process. Sure its Funcom's product to bury in whatever way they choose, nobody is arguing that, but if people are unhappy because they feel they are entitled to more.. well then its apparent that someone is making mistakes. People can call it crying if you want, but it won't make it go away.
I pre-ordered AOC few weeks ago (getting the Rhino) But yeah I got told i would have to download the client for the pre-orders earler start thing lol by the time i've downloaded it using fileplanets crappy free servers it will have been over lol Fileplanet when it comes to hosting things rarely host a european download they seem to favor their us servers so we us euro's suffer terrible downloads.
If you feel that you have been snubbed by Funcom's choice to use fileplanet to dispense keys to the open beta, by all means just don't play. Cancel your pre-orders. Say 'Hell no, I won't play your game.' You can show them just how wrong they were to snub you by not giving them your money.
If you all do that then I am sure I will have a much better time playing the game.
The devs will have a much better time not having to listen to the miriad of complaints that you otherwise would have burried them in because you got beat by such and such a class and want them to nerf it, or you feel that your class needs 'sum luv'.
Please, just don't play.
There are plenty of other new games coming out soon for you to play, you don't have to play this one. Maybe Mythic will have an open beta that they'll let everyone in, though I wouldn't hold my breath. Maybe Chronicles of the Spellborn will too. Who knows? Who cares? When you make a game, you decide who can beta test it, until then it's not your choice. I don't care what arguments you have, or how you shout DOOM from the ramparts because you think the game will fail just because it alienated you few jackholes.
anyways oh well, i'll wait till this game has been released and i've heard good enough opinions from people playing it. I somehow don't expect much from this release, too rushed at some point, too many delays just doesn't match well in my book.
Oh well in a month or so i'll know whether or not i should buy this game.
Originally posted by Qmire anyways oh well, i'll wait till this game has been released and i've heard good enough opinions from people playing it.
It's amazing how many people forget that they were never promised or guarenteed beta access and that all they really have to do is wait a few weeks to hear reviews on the game. I personally don't buy a console game, regardless of how much of a fangirl I am of it, until I've read reviews of it. So why should MMOs be any different? You don't hear people freaking out because they didn't get a chance to play GTA4 before they shell out $50+ for it...
It is my personal opinion that Fileplanet is a giant, smelly truck load of bullsh*t...they charge for any "special beta" that's coming out, and try to pinch pennies out of everything.
At one point, Fileplanet had a beta for subscribers only, the beta was for like, 4 days or something, and yet, if you did a little searching you could find a 14 day beta for the same game for anyone, so not only do they rip you off with an absolutely crappy premium service that doesn't offer much except the CHANCE of some special beta, but they also rip you off by offering sub par betas.
And have you ever tried dealing with their tech support? I can get more fricken help calling India...
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I'll play because there is nothing else out right now that is worth a damn and LoTRO is getting boring. Also I had a lot of fun at the PvP weekend and want some more. Sorry for those of you who don't want to play a 60 dollar game anymore. If its totally horrible I lose around 75 dollars for the game and first month. I make more than that in a couple days and I am a student lol!
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If FC really wanted to distribute their client and really did want to get the BEST help to test their product, they would hire those who CARED about AoC - fans, active posters, guilds, people who actually WILL play and test, and not someone who paid for FP premium account, who never heard about AOC but who got a key to join in and who may never actually get passed the login screen or even download it (13 gigs anyone?)
Its just unfair to the fans. Its sneaky and hypocritical and greedy. That about sums it up how I feel about all these shenanigans. Some may call this "whining", I call this "WTF, some trying to trick us and lie to us. We are not idiots."
If they really cared about the beta, they wouldn't take advice from a bunch of upset F2P open beta kiddies.
Its not about advice, its about testing. OB is for testing unfinished/unpolished product. Its a paid (usually) process, paid TO the testers... except in a gaming world, where OBs seem to turn around and testers pay to the developers to test their games.... WTF??? Its like going to a clinic to be a blood donor and pay for it. Or getting your nuts hit with a baseball bat and.. paying for it!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I dont see much
going on here. I see mature arguments and counter-arguments. I am actually very pleasantly surprised at the low number of flames or childish behavior about FC and their OB decision.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Ok, imagine you are an avid fan of a football club. You go to their plays, you even attend their trainings. They notice you. You help them by getting coffee, drinks, moving furniture... small stuff. They know you by name now, and they promise you to give you all season ticket (theres only one ticket available).
Now, how would you feel if you would see some hotshot rich boy who just happend to have a grand in his wallet paying for their uniforms and grabbing that ticket you dreamed about? Unless of course the coach told you if you were to give 1500$, then the ticked would still be yours. Would you just shrug off and go home? Or would you rather be pissed? Sure, they didnt do anything wrong. They needed uniforms. And technically, you arent being FORCED to pay for it. Its your choice. How would you feel?
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Ok for all the people saying why didn't Funcom just host the file themself its only 50k people, they say they are ready for 600k to patch on launch day.... Currently the patch will be 400mb. the full client is 13gigs
13 gigs divided by 400mb comes out to like 32.5.... 32.5x50000= 1625000
For all those who don't see what i am getting at here... 50k people downloading a 13 gig file is like 1.6 million people at launch day... it would be a mess on there servers with the addition of people they have in beta downloading the patches and trying to actually play the game. They sent the file out to a server farm that could handle the load, that server farm decided to charge for its useage... that isn't really funcom doing that, its fileplanet.
I understand alot of folks wana play the game, but tell me how is the fileplanets beta at 5 dollars different then preordering a game and canceling it cuz you didn't like it? Costs you money either way.... Gaming companys do not HAVE to have an open beta they do it cuz its a nice look for the public... Do not try to say things like "they owe it to us" or "this is crap we shouldn't have to pay to play a beta" cuz honestly.... would you guys just prefer there was no public beta at all?
Do you guys HONESTLY believe that Funcom are making money off the Beta? It's the standard Fileplanet subscription fee .... not a fee to play the AoC Beta?
You lot need to get some perspective and stop being such a bunch of cheap arsed parasites who just want to play a game for FREE for a month.
LOL, love the cut of yer jib. Nice retort to the negatrons.
However, they "the consumers" have the power to make or break a game. They may live in their mamma's basement but they are hardcore slayas when it comes to felling mmo giants. David and Goliath man, (lard ass) Davids and Goliath man.
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While you're math is right, it still doesn't explain why they didn't torrent out the beta client.
In fact, seeding out the torrent from the login servers / game servers is great way to stress test the bandwidth of a server.
Oh, and it takes like 10 minutes to set up. If that's too hard for FunCom, I'm worried about what would happen with a real technical problem. :P
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to be honest i get the feeling these deals with file planet will be the way of the future when it comes to open betas . personally i cant see the point in paying a years sub just to get to play the game a few weeks earlier than everyone else . if think the more important issue if they go down this route is to offer a weeks free trial on release to everyone . if they dont do this accusations that they have something to hide will be levelled at them . already these forums are full of people doubting thier pc will actually play the game .a badly handled release can effect a games popularity .
the strange thing is we all know these simple facts but sometimes the people who market mmos are totally clueless to them .
I personally would not play any game that was only available from Fileplanet.
1. Fileplanet requires that you register. Giving your personal information to a third party for a one off download is asking a lot.
2. AFTER obtaining your personal information, you then find out you cannot download without paying a fee for a service you may not use again.
3. In addition, when I recently tried to download an old MMO, I found out after further investigation that the game was actually no longer available for download even though the MMO official site said it was available from Fileplanet. Luckily, I had not paid the $5.
"" if think the more important issue if they go down this route is to offer a weeks free trial on release to everyone . if they dont do this accusations that they have something to hide will be levelled at them . ""
Will never happen. For the same reason a free download will likely never happen. They want/need that initial box purchase to help offset the cost of development. Thats why free trials are usually started months after release. Even if they arent trying to hide something I just dont see it happening.
Haha can't believe people are whining about a open beta, be glad that they even have one. This new generation of MMO players should just stick to their xbox or counter-strike and quit ruining MMOs with your whiny attitudes.
This is not a trial, this is not a privilege, it's a beta. If anyone feels like canceling their pre-order because of this go ahead, just one brat less playing the game.
I dont see much
going on here. I see mature arguments and counter-arguments. I am actually very pleasantly surprised at the low number of flames or childish behavior about FC and their OB decision.
Sorry mate, I see it differently, I see page after page with posts from spoilt crybabies who are canceling pre-orders, not buying this game and prophocising the downfall of AoC simply because they wont get to PLAY it for free.
As you rightly pointed out earlier open beta is for testing, testing how your network will handle large amounts of traffic and to see if there are any nasty bugs as a result of a higher population than closed sessions. Open beta is not, as some people seem to think, a consumer right nor is it a genuine oppertunity to play the game for free to decide if you like it or not. Granted some games have used a genuinely open beta as a way of generating a consumer base before launch, Funcom haven't, big deal!
People complaining about being "mis-sold" this because of the unannounced lvl 13 cap need a reality check or to seek psychiatric help.
It is in my opinion that Funcom made a smart move here by sub letting their client distribution to Fileplanet. I do not subscribe to the service myself, but have used it before and in this case had the fortune to win a VIP account, the system works flawlessly. It seems only reasonable that Fileplanet should get something in return, which they did in the form of the exclusive rights to the keys for this "open beta".
as are some of the people that play them by the looks of your reasoning
Can't people just be honest here? Just own up to the fact that you are throwing "hissy fits" because you wont get to play it early.
edited typo.
Bah...Kids !!!! Grow up..Nothing in life is free
YOU ARE NOT FUNCOM, it's their choice, it's their multi million dollar project, and they can do as they please with it..
Besides, fileplanet betas has been like this before, you will have to be a subscriber..It may or may not be bad choice from Funcom, but it's their choice, simple...
When did you last try GTA IV for free ? The whole game ?
Or Crysis or Bioshock or Oblivion ???
You didn't you bought them anyway...
So, what's the diffrence ?
There is no diffrence at all..
Well, AoC is a MMO, but in the purchase you will get ONE MONTH FREE playtime, One month is more than most people even play the above games..One Month should be enough time for you as a customer to deiceide if the game is good or bad....
See, you buy all sorts of games without getting a FREE LOOK at the entire gameworld or how the game may or may not run on your computers..
And it's NOT that AoC cost's more than the above games, it costs as much as them..
It's not that you are signing a contract with the devil when you purchase AoC, you will not be bound with that game forever...
And, If you pre order, it's up to YOU..And if you cancel for these reasons you are just very unmature and childish..Or you are on a tight leech with your parents money....
This is just SOOOO Stupid, Grow Up Kids
What I find funny is fileplanet has done this many times before for many different games and you have to be a subscriber to get the keys. I have been a subscriber for 5 years so this was nothing new to me.
I downloaded this client at speeds of up to 850kb a sec. I was a tech tester and took longer to download that client. It was larger though.
I see nothing wrong in what they have done to distribute the client for "open beta" which by the way they said all along they would never have a open beta. So I do believe they just worded it wrong causing the kids to cry and the bashing to start.
Good luck see you all in final as I already preordered just from what I saw in 3 hours of the tech test.
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and many others that did not make the cut or i just plain forgetting about.
Well done on completely dodging the are you being paid by FP for them to host it?
That is all this ever was about making money of a beta.
Anyone else notice all the fanbois with like.... 12 posts are coming out of the woodworks? Quite interesting if you ask me. I think its funny that some of you think that they aren't getting money out of this deal. You are stupid. I really hate to say that, being positive most of the time, but you are. They ARE making money off this... not directly, but its being given to them by fileplanet due to some pre arranged agreement.
As for the comment about fileplanet always doing it this way, you are wrong. Please get your facts right before posting. More than 85% of the time the only thing you need from fileplanet to join a beta is a free membership. If they were trying to go by age validation, this way would be just as legit as the paid method. So why use the paid method again? OH.. thats RIGHT... money...
Sorry, I don't buy it. testers shouldnt pay to beta test, its actually the other way around. But since people love games, most are happy with just a chance to play it for free... and gain knowledge.
Bad move funcom, bad move.
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Yeah the people putting themselves on pedestals, complaining about the complainers.. I always loved that stuff. "Rawr I'm more mature, sorry if I'm missing the real point, you guys suck for crying."
I can't say that I'm planning on playing AoC, nor have I followed that closely, but I can say that I understand the concern from the fanbase because a lot of what I see is very unconventional in comparison to games I've followed (beta'd) through the development process. Sure its Funcom's product to bury in whatever way they choose, nobody is arguing that, but if people are unhappy because they feel they are entitled to more.. well then its apparent that someone is making mistakes. People can call it crying if you want, but it won't make it go away.
I pre-ordered AOC few weeks ago (getting the Rhino) But yeah I got told i would have to download the client for the pre-orders earler start thing lol by the time i've downloaded it using fileplanets crappy free servers it will have been over lol Fileplanet when it comes to hosting things rarely host a european download they seem to favor their us servers so we us euro's suffer terrible downloads.
Please don't play.
If you feel that you have been snubbed by Funcom's choice to use fileplanet to dispense keys to the open beta, by all means just don't play. Cancel your pre-orders. Say 'Hell no, I won't play your game.' You can show them just how wrong they were to snub you by not giving them your money.
If you all do that then I am sure I will have a much better time playing the game.
The devs will have a much better time not having to listen to the miriad of complaints that you otherwise would have burried them in because you got beat by such and such a class and want them to nerf it, or you feel that your class needs 'sum luv'.
Please, just don't play.
There are plenty of other new games coming out soon for you to play, you don't have to play this one. Maybe Mythic will have an open beta that they'll let everyone in, though I wouldn't hold my breath. Maybe Chronicles of the Spellborn will too. Who knows? Who cares? When you make a game, you decide who can beta test it, until then it's not your choice. I don't care what arguments you have, or how you shout DOOM from the ramparts because you think the game will fail just because it alienated you few jackholes.
Save your money. Don't play this game.
I'm sure we'll all be happier without you.
holy crap, many replies.....
anyways oh well, i'll wait till this game has been released and i've heard good enough opinions from people playing it. I somehow don't expect much from this release, too rushed at some point, too many delays just doesn't match well in my book.
Oh well in a month or so i'll know whether or not i should buy this game.
I hope the fileplanet beta goes well.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
It's amazing how many people forget that they were never promised or guarenteed beta access and that all they really have to do is wait a few weeks to hear reviews on the game. I personally don't buy a console game, regardless of how much of a fangirl I am of it, until I've read reviews of it. So why should MMOs be any different? You don't hear people freaking out because they didn't get a chance to play GTA4 before they shell out $50+ for it...
It is my personal opinion that Fileplanet is a giant, smelly truck load of bullsh*t...they charge for any "special beta" that's coming out, and try to pinch pennies out of everything.
At one point, Fileplanet had a beta for subscribers only, the beta was for like, 4 days or something, and yet, if you did a little searching you could find a 14 day beta for the same game for anyone, so not only do they rip you off with an absolutely crappy premium service that doesn't offer much except the CHANCE of some special beta, but they also rip you off by offering sub par betas.
And have you ever tried dealing with their tech support? I can get more fricken help calling India...
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