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Do u guys even know what a stress test is?

ConsequenceConsequence Member UncommonPosts: 358

I hear all  this complaining about the  performance of the OB client. These forums are littered with complaints.

What I dont understand is ..THEY TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS.

They clearly stated they intended to use this OB as a stress test. The problem is I think they assumed most of you would know what that means. Obviously, they were wrong.

So Please read this for future knowledge.

Stress tests = lag, client crashes, and general poor performance. They WANT lag, they want to see exactly how much the servers can take. They have means to add lag and make every person add far more latency than they normally would. The servers run are stressed b4 anyone even logs in.

They use an old client  because its cheaper to run, and because its likely the old client actually adds to the lag.

So please, if someone tells you your taking part in a stress test and you agree to it then run to the forums and complain about the performance, you look like an idiot. Idiots garner no sympathy. Its like complaining about the cold after moving to the antarctic.

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  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851


    Originally posted by Consequence
    I hear all this complaining about the performance of the OB client. These forums are littered with complaints.
    What I dont understand is ..THEY TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS.
    They clearly stated they intended to use this OB as a stress test. The problem is I think they assumed most of you would know what that means. Obviously, they were wrong.
    So Please read this for future knowledge.
    Stress tests = lag, client crashes, and general poor performance. They WANT lag, they want to see exactly how much the servers can take. They have means to add lag and make every person add far more latency than they normally would. The servers run are stressed b4 anyone even logs in.
    They use an old client because its cheaper to run, and because its likely the old client actually adds to the lag.
    So please, if someone tells you your taking part in a stress test and you agree to it then run to the forums and complain about the performance, you look like an idiot. Idiots garner no sympathy. Its like complaining about the cold after moving to the antarctic.

    Do you know what an open beta is? I rest my case. Also if you would have done a search you would have seen this exact posting done 20 times over already.

    Save the virtual trees damn it, they running out of online forests!

    [[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button.  Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
  • originaleggoriginalegg Member Posts: 1,099

    I understand your point...and sort of agree to some extent (there are many other factors to consider about the beta)

    However did you really need to make your own thread about this? 

    Every AoC performance thread right now has multiple posts in them saying almost exactly what you have said.  We did not need another one.  Kind of like we don't need any new threads with people saying "zomg i crashed, AoC is bad dont buy kthx"

    edit: hash types faster than me

  • CharlizdCharlizd Member UncommonPosts: 923

    Exactly my thoughts you nailed it right on the head there but im sure some one will still find something to complain about.

    Andrew "Charlizd" Phippen | Lead World Builder | The Saga of Lucimia MMORPG
  • elondorelondor Member Posts: 171

    yet another thread I have to mark as watched so that when the game releases I can come back and say, I told you so.

     

    stress and lag? all the servers say light load.  no one is complaining about stress and lag, people are complaining about bugs and glitches that completely hinder gameplay, performance issues not to do with computer specs but programming and coding querks.

     

    when you buy the game and realize all these people complaining were right, I expect to see an apology from you and every other fanboy lol.

  • ConsequenceConsequence Member UncommonPosts: 358
    Originally posted by HashBrick


     

    Originally posted by Consequence

    I hear all this complaining about the performance of the OB client. These forums are littered with complaints.

    What I dont understand is ..THEY TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS.

    They clearly stated they intended to use this OB as a stress test. The problem is I think they assumed most of you would know what that means. Obviously, they were wrong.

    So Please read this for future knowledge.

    Stress tests = lag, client crashes, and general poor performance. They WANT lag, they want to see exactly how much the servers can take. They have means to add lag and make every person add far more latency than they normally would. The servers run are stressed b4 anyone even logs in.

    They use an old client because its cheaper to run, and because its likely the old client actually adds to the lag.

    So please, if someone tells you your taking part in a stress test and you agree to it then run to the forums and complain about the performance, you look like an idiot. Idiots garner no sympathy. Its like complaining about the cold after moving to the antarctic.

     

    Do you know what an open beta is? I rest my case. Also if you would have done a search you would have seen this exact posting done 20 times over already.

    Save the virtual trees damn it, they running out of online forests!

    so you think this is an open beta? thats interesting.

  • CharlizdCharlizd Member UncommonPosts: 923

    Originally posted by HashBrick


     

    Originally posted by Consequence

    I hear all this complaining about the performance of the OB client. These forums are littered with complaints.

    What I dont understand is ..THEY TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS.

    They clearly stated they intended to use this OB as a stress test. The problem is I think they assumed most of you would know what that means. Obviously, they were wrong.

    So Please read this for future knowledge.

    Stress tests = lag, client crashes, and general poor performance. They WANT lag, they want to see exactly how much the servers can take. They have means to add lag and make every person add far more latency than they normally would. The servers run are stressed b4 anyone even logs in.

    They use an old client because its cheaper to run, and because its likely the old client actually adds to the lag.

    So please, if someone tells you your taking part in a stress test and you agree to it then run to the forums and complain about the performance, you look like an idiot. Idiots garner no sympathy. Its like complaining about the cold after moving to the antarctic.

     

    Do you know what an open beta is? I rest my case. Also if you would have done a search you would have seen this exact posting done 20 times over already.

    Save the virtual trees damn it, they running out of online forests!

    Well don't mean to be nasty here but do you know what an Open Beta is?.. cause this is in no means a typical as far as we all know it Open beta this is exactly what the OP said and is a stress test which was unfortunately labeled Open Beta and can be seen being argued in many other post an Open beta is usually used On an almost finished which for 1 this game is not, not to mention you had to be lucky to get into this well not so lucky but had to be invited nonetheless or have a FP sub to get in,so what case are you resting again? I agree on the this has been posted before but maybe he was trying to get it sunk in that this is not what you are going to get at release which for some reason some people just can't seem to fathom.
    Andrew "Charlizd" Phippen | Lead World Builder | The Saga of Lucimia MMORPG
  • ethionethion Member UncommonPosts: 2,888

    Originally posted by Consequence


    I hear all  this complaining about the  performance of the OB client. These forums are littered with complaints.
    What I dont understand is ..THEY TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS.
    They clearly stated they intended to use this OB as a stress test. The problem is I think they assumed most of you would know what that means. Obviously, they were wrong.
    So Please read this for future knowledge.
    Stress tests = lag, client crashes, and general poor performance. They WANT lag, they want to see exactly how much the servers can take. They have means to add lag and make every person add far more latency than they normally would. The servers run are stressed b4 anyone even logs in.
    They use an old client  because its cheaper to run, and because its likely the old client actually adds to the lag.
    So please, if someone tells you your taking part in a stress test and you agree to it then run to the forums and complain about the performance, you look like an idiot. Idiots garner no sympathy. Its like complaining about the cold after moving to the antarctic.

    haha stress test my eye.  This is just like every game a marketing move to gain momentum just before release which I'm afraid is going to be an immense mistake.    And even if it is a stress test then they are insanely stupid to do it when it is gonna be this bad.  Fact is when I log in the servers all have light load and besides which the stress test has nothing to do with crashing client or the inabilty of the client to even start.

    I just tried to start and got this nice little error which has NOTHING to do with stress tests.  Maybe I'm unique but I've spent more time reinstalling and fighting to get this game to work then I have any game I've ever played beta or not.  So unless my experiences are completely unique to me this game is looking like it is going to be as bad as AO or even worse at launch.  And before you start flaming about being a Hater or whatever, there is nothing I'm saying that isn't true.  Since thursday I have reinstalled this game probably about 7-8 times.  I've spent hours looking at error logs an fussing trying to get it to work.  I've installed 4 different video drivers.  I've found the game to be completely unpredicable.  Sometimes I can get in and it is fine but more often I crashes, freezes, or kills my computer.    I like the game, I just can't play it.

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  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851


    Originally posted by charlizd
    Originally posted by HashBrick

    Originally posted by Consequence
    I hear all this complaining about the performance of the OB client. These forums are littered with complaints.
    What I dont understand is ..THEY TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS.
    They clearly stated they intended to use this OB as a stress test. The problem is I think they assumed most of you would know what that means. Obviously, they were wrong.
    So Please read this for future knowledge.
    Stress tests = lag, client crashes, and general poor performance. They WANT lag, they want to see exactly how much the servers can take. They have means to add lag and make every person add far more latency than they normally would. The servers run are stressed b4 anyone even logs in.
    They use an old client because its cheaper to run, and because its likely the old client actually adds to the lag.
    So please, if someone tells you your taking part in a stress test and you agree to it then run to the forums and complain about the performance, you look like an idiot. Idiots garner no sympathy. Its like complaining about the cold after moving to the antarctic.

    Do you know what an open beta is? I rest my case. Also if you would have done a search you would have seen this exact posting done 20 times over already.
    Save the virtual trees damn it, they running out of online forests!

    Well don't mean to be nasty here but do you know what an Open Beta is?.. cause this is in no means a typical as far as we all know it Open beta this is exactly what the OP said and is a stress test which was unfortunately labeled Open Beta and can be seen being argued in many other post an Open beta is usually used On an almost finished which for 1 this game is not, not to mention you had to be lucky to get into this well not so lucky but had to be invited nonetheless or have a FP sub to get in,so what case are you resting again? I agree on the this has been posted before but maybe he was trying to get it sunk in that this is not what you are going to get at release which for some reason some people just can't seem to fathom.

    When an NDA is dropped it's considered open beta, it be on a single client or multiple clients. Normally like what is happening one build of the client is under NDA unless the game is polished. There ya go.

    Funcom can blame only themselves, they should have never called it Open Beta and only keep it to fileplanet subscribers. The subscribers were looking for a sneak peek and they ended up being testers and pay to test not to mention. It was a bad call and they will pay for it.

    [[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button.  Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
  • CharlizdCharlizd Member UncommonPosts: 923
    Originally posted by elondor


    yet another thread I have to mark as watched so that when the game releases I can come back and say, I told you so.
     
    stress and lag? all the servers say light load.  no one is complaining about stress and lag, people are complaining about bugs and glitches that completely hinder gameplay, performance issues not to do with computer specs but programming and coding querks.
     
    when you buy the game and realize all these people complaining were right, I expect to see an apology from you and every other fanboy lol.

    Well actually i see people complaining about lag and crashes to desktop and when ever i have logged on the servers have never said light load maybe you are getting on when people are sleeping? i for 1 have not come across 1 glitch  yet and i have 3 toons at lvl 13 and think i have seen most of what there is to see so far

    so am a little unsure of what these quirks.e.t.c. you are talking about.

    Andrew "Charlizd" Phippen | Lead World Builder | The Saga of Lucimia MMORPG
  • ConsequenceConsequence Member UncommonPosts: 358

    Originally posted by elondor


    yet another thread I have to mark as watched so that when the game releases I can come back and say, I told you so.
     
    stress and lag? all the servers say light load.  no one is complaining about stress and lag, people are complaining about bugs and glitches that completely hinder gameplay, performance issues not to do with computer specs but programming and coding querks.
     
    when you buy the game and realize all these people complaining were right, I expect to see an apology from you and every other fanboy lol.
    There are hundreds of threads and posts complaining about the lag and performance. Thats what I am responding to.  The bugs are not at all what im talking about here, so bookmark athis thread all you want.

    And again, the reason the servers say light load and still have a lot of lag is because they stress the servers before anyone even logs in.  If you could be the only person online , on a stress test, you would still be lagged. Again, it is what they want.

    If a server can hold 5000 people max, they can only see how the server handles stress when the number of people online approaches those numbers which may only happen during peak hours. They create bandwith bottlenecks so that the servers act like they have 3k(guessing on the actual numbers) people on them  before anyone even logs in. Its how stress tests work and its exactly what they want.

  • TheDoughboyTheDoughboy Member Posts: 36

    Typically, stress tests are tightly focused events that usually happen during an MMO's open beta period.  Open beta is when developers drop their NDA (completely) and allow just about anyone to download their game client and log in to the game.

    Most of the time during the open beta the servers run normally, as they will when the game goes live (which is usually a month or a few weeks after the open beta has begun).  However, during certain hours announced in advance, the developers do their damnedest to stress the servers to the breaking point so they can optimize their network code.  These stress tests will generally last a few hours and will be painful for testers as they sometimes will not even be able to get their characters to move.  It can result in "slideshow" type performance.  Once the set period for that stress test ends, the servers are returned to normal and testers are allowed to resume normal testing.

    That's what a stress test is.  Usually.

  • GreenfeenGreenfeen Member UncommonPosts: 47

    I think the problem was we all thought we were going to stress test AoC server load and ended up stress testing the number of times our comps would cold boot to safety mode two weeks from launch.

    AOC stress test= filling the first 20 client crash comment boxes all caring and informative like;  then filling the next 60 client crash comment boxes with "screw this". 

    To be fair AoC did patch the client and it is running  much better.

    I now can see some potential. Enjoyed a few of the quest lines and  got pawned by a tiger because i was staring off into the water. IMHO its still to early to tell how the  pvp is going to be. With necro I sucked with demon I rocked go figure.

    It's going to be an interesting launch. Added bonus the aocboi/wowboi flame war is a classic and almost worth the price of admission.

    cheers all

     

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