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Age of Conan's real problem: the community...
Vozz
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Since I've had a Fileplanet sub since earlier this year, I decided to grab a copy of the Age of Conan beta client last week and give the game a try. While it could use some polish, I'm one of those people who hasn't had any hardware issues running it, so I managed to get into the gameplay, which I enjoyed. I like the combat, the lore, the combat rose UI...all in all, I'd normally be picking up a copy of the game in two weeks' time.
But I'm not. Why, you ask? The beta testing community is the whiniest, rudest bunch of idiotic Funcom ass-kissing fanboys that I've ever seen, bar none. Someone mentioning that the AoC demonologist reminded him of a combination of an EQ and WoW class prompted a torrent of "fuck WoW, eat shit n00b" "go back to WoW, baby!" "I'm gonna come to your house and kill you!" type comments. Any time any other game came up, or someone said something not totally complementary about AoC, a ton of people ended up insulting them, threatening them, calling them poor scrubs who couldn't afford a decent machine, and so on. While I know that a beta community isn't entirely indicative of what the final game community will be like, these jackasses have put me off buying the game in the short run, at least until I find out a bit more about what the release community is like. Oh yeah, and the official forums? ---> 
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I agree with the OP, I have postponed my plans to buy this game and I will wait for:
1. Game to be released and several patches for bug free gaming
2. The ad community of Asshats to rape, pillage, and destroy as much as they can and then move on.
3. And exact system specs to know what to run the game on, not the kinda sorta maybe shoulda coulda woulda run systems, before I upgrade my system.
Mah like you said wouldnt judge the community on the beta,also the time's I have really enjoyed a MMo is with my guild and some friends I met along the way,There are lots of guilds looking for"adult" member's(yep we both know this is also sometime's a hit or a miss)so you could try to join a pre-AoC guild and try it out.
I think it wont matter too much with the age restriction's of this game,maybe the higher pc spec's will,but at the end off the day every game gets its share...
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Any Ways you probably ran into the dumbasses in the game. I am playing right now the Beta also and I am about to preorder it. I Love this game I dont pay attention to the community because you always have your idiots. Any ways I am definitley getting this game and playing and think you should join in.
The truth is out there SOMEWHERE ?
Good post.. I've noticed the same thing, worship it or you're just a troll..
Mate, ever since Funcom started the 'we've got boobies' comments AoC was guaranteed to draw every ten year old with access to daddies credit card from here to darkest Africa. Someone mentioned in another thread that the beta testers global chat was over 30 minutes of chuck norris the other night and that says it all.
Actually I'm being unfair on ten year olds there, it's usually the 13 - 15 age bracket that's the worst, the ones that think every other word starting with F makes them sound older, and I apologise in advance to those people in that age bracket that are not like that, I know there are some but they appear to be the minority and must cringe even more than the rest of us because they get tarred with the same brush.
I think its too early to judge the community
- you have everyone on the same server
the PVE community and PVP communities may be very different
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I kinda agree and disagree from what i see the AoC fans have every right to whinge because all i have seen is people flaming that WoW is better at this WoW is better at that and the same for War so clearly these people had no intention but to ridicule the game so imo why not give these guys shit i mean there are honest people out there that want to test this game but instead we get arse monkeys in there spurting shit about how a game that has been out for 4+ years is more polished? and people saying War has beat this game yet it is not even out yet, i do agree that some of the things said were a bit harsh but some people have a real passion for this game and don't want it to be ridiculed with 10 year old kids.
I agree, the community in the beta is really lacking. I'm going to hope that by release FC will find a way to deal with these types of people, at least enough of them where it is at a point of the regular amount of these types of people. But tbh I wouldn't consider that a factor to not buy the game, but that's just me, I can certainly understand why people would. It's just not as much of a deal to me and I just ignore them. As long as there are enough mature people to play with, I really don't care about them. Unless of course, which I can guarantee will happen, I will go AFK in a city and 10 minutes later come back to see a naked female character placing her boobs on my character's face
Then I will report them. There's just too many of them to honestly stop, if you haven't experienced this kind of ridiculous before then you haven't played an MMORPG.
EDIT: you also have to realize that a good portion of the people in there are not potential customers, just "samplers" from FP and people who are, literally, purposefully attempting to lower the standards of the game... which is futile, but then again you have to look at the intelligence of the people doing it
I've noticed the same thing.. the ones yelling 'troll' are usually the biggest trolls themselves. Its like they can't sleep at night unless everyone on the board thinks like them.
I recently saw the movie 'The Mist' on dvd when it came out and was amazed at how similar some of the extremist fans on the board were to the crazy religious nut that wanted to kill everyone who didn't worship like she did. Every time I see one jump up on their pedestal and start screaming 'troll!'I just shake my head and hope that the dorky shopkeeper with the pistol comes around to save the day.
Edit: troll Or shill, as it turns out
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
"Free" open beta is kind of like private WoW servers... You join one of those and its 90% idiots but retail WoW is MUCH better.
Well, as I said, I'm not giving up on buying the game, which seems to have some pretty solid fundamentals (and the best world design ever), but I will be waiting a few weeks to see how the community pans out. I may roll on an RP server if I do get it, from what I've read of Funcom's ruleset, it should be pretty hard to be an ass there without being booted.
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i will not play aoc
i don't like the system as it should be a skill based sandbox system. the player base strikes me as worst then what swg nge has right now a ton of fanbois who just want to run around and look at naked women. this game is full of the fail it will be one of the worst mmorpg games of all time and i really don't wish to call it a mmorpg game more like a mmo game.
anyone who pays for this should be ashamed of themselfs
I have played a handful of mmo's and a immature community can be a deal breaker (in my opinion) but as long as the game is fun, I have some friends to slay with, and there is an ignore function in chat I'm not too worried. I will agree with some of the folks above that you shouldn't judge a game based on its beta community. I just got my key today and was never prompted to enter any cc info, so once it hits live and players actually have to input some personal info maybe some will be weeded out. that or you could do what I always do and be an example of what a helpful community oriented player should be and ignore the bad apples and enjoy the rest. we must never let a few jerks take away from the games that we love.
"For a wounded man shall say to his assailant, 'If I live, I will kill you. If I die, You are forgiven.' Such is the rule of honour..."
As a suggestion: if you DO decide to play the game eventually I'd probably try a RP-PvP server. They're usually the best monitored and good if you want people to stay "in-character"... in other words, more likely to have less people acting like dimwits
I most likely won't RP, but I know this will be the type of server I join because of this, at least to start.
thanks i have not seen that movie yet atleast i know how it ends.......
It's a little difficult to make a judgment on Age of Conan's community before, you know, it's launched and actually molded a community.
The beta players are mostly folks who either aren't playing an MMO currently, or are dissatisfied with the one they're currently playing. Unfortunately, mixed into both of those groups are mindless pillagers so obsessed with a messiah of MMOs that they've lost the ability to recognize a decent MMO. There's always going to be them, and they're very loud.
Regardless of how many spoiled apples there are or aren't in a bunch, beta players aren't a good reflection of what a game's community will ultimately be. If for no reason other than the fact that only a very small fraction of those that take interest in beta, actually spill over into subscribing. Case in point the million or so people that got a key for LOTRO's beta, yet its subscriber count is somewhere around a quarter of that all this time later.
Usually the loudest are the ones complaining anyway, therefore they're the ones from beta that don't make it into the actual game. So why judge Age of Conan's community on those who won't be apart of the post-launch populace anyway?
Thats definitely not how it ends but I am genuinely sorry if i ruined any surprises for you.
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
You should try logging in after release, when the forums are for subscribers only, and there isnt a 50k fileplanet beta. Way to early and unfair to judge the community based on a beta test with many people who are just trying it out for the sake of it. Beta was open worldwide too, where as release will be different still.
I came across some assholes too, but also some really friendly people.
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Well... now that the FREE open beta is in affect it will probably just get worse.I really think the community will be completely different once the game goes live and you have to pay for it. I hope.. that was the main selling point for me; to have a more mature community in a game. Not that I have anything against kids, I have 2 of my own, but would be nice to get away now and then
I've noticed a bit of rudeness and stupidity, about on par with the Guild Wars community. It doesn't seem like Funcom plans to police the community, except for perhaps the most egregious acts of racism and vulgarity. I may be wrong about this, but in some of the sneak previews the devs have come out and said they want people to feel free to use more mature language within reason. But I'm not sure this is going to be a good thing in the long run.
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Whoa!!! Stop the horses. Current WoW is one of the worse communities in the MMO's. Sorry to say that was a bad example.
But I do understand you point that once they move beyond the free portion, the community should stabalize. But like I said before I think I will wait and watch several forums before I decide to pick up the game.
Heh, it just keeps spiraling down the closer we get to release. Every morning I get up seems worse than the previous morning. The good thing is, its usually the same old people doing it, so I can identify the flamers easily enough. They seem to post in almost every thread that isn't positive so just open up any one of them (there are many) and just run down the list of everyone that threw personal attacks instead of commenting on the game or the topic of the post. Thats how I figure it out anyway. Seems to work pretty well.
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
Maybe it's the fileplanet community that is the problem. All of those people ranting in beta most likely won't even be playing the game because they either don't like it or can't run it. The whole fileplanet thing was an exercise in failure so I'm pretty much ignoring anything to do with it. The pvp weekend seemed good so I'll just wait and see what happens at release.
This is what all Betas have become that is why they are no longer called "Tests".
Same thing happened in Tabula Rasa and I still say Garriot was right, their developers were naive to believe their Beta was going to be a real test rather than a bunch of immature trolls.
Absolutely no point in judging any community on the Beta anymore. And I do not plan on buying AoC atm.