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Funcom Quotes on Beta
Paragus1
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This is from a thread on the official boards found here. These are quotes from Funcom...
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=80406
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Originally Posted by Lionex  The jerkiness is cause of an inherent problem with the debugger, which will not run with the live client. Also, restarts usually point to an overheating component in your system, you might want to check that. |
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Originally Posted by Lionex Also understand, that it will show greatly during the stresstest for some as they´ll be in heavily populated areas. Instancing is automatic and since everyone is cramped into more or less 3-4 zones, it´ll be alot laggier than in live game. Have faith, this is like 5000 elephants pushed into an elevator...please don´t fart before I get out. |
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Originally Posted by Lionex When you cannot see the animation, there is a high ping between you and the server due to server stress. |
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Originally Posted by Lionex It´s the debugger + the huge amount of players in the same area. Also, the PvP weekend-client is a newer build than this one. |
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Originally Posted by Lionex I´m just doing my job. There would be absolutely no point in "fooling" someone that it isn´t what it is and in the end, if you decide not to purchase the game from stress-test performance it´s your decision, I´m still just conveying what is correct; The Open client is an older build than Closed. The live client will be even newer than both combined. The Open client will be patched, both with parts of the Closed along with fixes for the current problems. And no, it´s not patched yet. |
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Originally Posted by Lionex I do believe I have more information than you (Brad) on the subject. The client version is lower than the closed beta version, thus it is older. The open beta will be patched with the closed beta client sooner or later, just as Gaute says. The open beta, like it or not, is to test the hardware and to bog it down as much as possible. No-one is trying to silence anyone, just conveying what´s going on. Again, believe it or not but don´t ask for an answer if you don´t want to hear it. |
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Originally Posted by Lionex Don´t worry. You´re on an older client. For now, please check the updated sticky (Open Beta- ....) on fixes for this particular build. |
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Originally Posted by Lionex There are issues related to the open beta client that you will not see in the live client. That, along with older build, less servers, instances and less zones in total makes it a less smooth experience but it´s all for testing. |
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Originally Posted by Lionex Don´t worry, this is a stress test. You´ll be crammed in with alot more players then you will in live + the debugger. |
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Originally Posted by Lionex
Regardless of who´s in your vicinity, the server is still handling alot ALOT more ppl in your zone than it will at launch. Therefor it is a people´s issue. It´s not about the rubberbanding that might happen with vicinity-lag, it´s just that the machinery is under heavy load.
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Originally Posted by Lionex
You´re not even playing full beta Sir, you´re stress testing the hardware. Relax, sit back, crash the server again and feel proud for participating.
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Thanks for the quotes. I might just order AoC, but I want to see how the idiot kids are going to swarm this game first. Now, I don't fear the client, I fear the community...Strange no?
-- Brede
Lol
The guy you are quoting is just a moderator. Not a developer, programmer or producer ETC..
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Someone will say something about this not being true, or there filling your heads with lies. Its ineveitable really. But good on you. I always had faith with Funcom
careful the haters dont seem to like facts or supporting arguments. They pretty much just want to hate the game regardless of what they hear.
Yes but atm moderators are employees of funcom... so odds are he/she has direct lines of contact with said devs?
Is Funcom saying anything about why they used an older version for the Stress Beta?
It's a bit reassuring to see that but, like you, I'm on the fence. I don't mind waiting until a month after launch to see how the game fares. Ideally I'll snag a trial code from someone along the way to see for myself ( ' :
Probably because its a limited access beta that was setup a while back specifically for this open beta. They continued patching the main clients and working forward in its development and left the closed beta there as it was a smaller scale closed test.
They are now patching it up and fixing its bugs. They patched the open test into the clsoed test to help find the bugs. To me that goes to show the bugs are probably limited to the open test... but that could also be my inner funcom fanboi talking.
The problem with all that is its an excuse and he is full of it. I play in the closed beta and performance is just as bad there. For a huge percentage of people in closed beta the game is simply unplayble. To mislead people into thinking there is a magic game saving build that is being held back is simply wrong and almost criminal.
Now if he wanted to argue the truth and say these performance issues are relatively new and the game simply did not run this bad a few weeks ago. That would be truthful and more ethical argument than the bait and switch one they are using.
Realistically many of the performance issues are fixable as we did not have them before. But even with many fixes there will still be some severe stability and perfomance issues and the game will be unplayable of a good % of gamers syetms for quite sometime after launch. The game will not be magically fixed but it will be much better than it is now.
How do we know your not "full of it"?
I, Sir, Am in Closed Beta. And I can tell you that it is just as buggy as Open Beta (which I have also tried).
In fact, it is such a bad state, I have now opted to cease testing it as my computer (very current, latest drivers, runs everything else very well) crashes so much when I play it, it (for me) is untestable. As an example, it always (everytime) locks the entire PC on exiting the AoC Closed client.
The closed beta forums are full of these issues, with no reply from Moderators, Developers or the like. There are of course also alot of fans of the game who will defend it, but these are slowly being converted. When you start to get posts like "I have defended this game in public forums for months, but I just cant lie anymore" you know there is a big problem.
This isnt a flame, I am not horrendiously upset, I am not threatening to quit or cancel preorders, and I am over the age of 25 and have beta tested many games. AoC is better than games like Vanguard in beta, but to say there are not problems, or that these problems are due to the Open Beta client or the server load, is to not be honest about the state of it.
I sincerely hope it will be all fixed up and ready for launch in the next couple of weeks, but having tested and played many MMO's, I believe it wont actually be in a good state for some months after release.
This is just my opinion however, and I am sure that others have had a much better experience.
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
I don't think we need an ethics lesson from someone who is talking about being in the closed beta.
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How do we know your not "full of it"?
You don't. That is the sad part about not bringing down the NDA for closed beta testers. I can only comment on levels 1-13 without breaking the NDA. But there have been a few other closed beta testers that have posted the same things and have gone on to comment that the beta boards are full of the threads saying last weeks patch has made the game unplayable. But if you can think of a way for me to prove to you I am in closed beta without violating the NDA I would be happy to do so.
How do we know your not "full of it"?
You don't. That is the sad part about not bringing down the NDA for closed beta testers. I can only comment on levels 1-13 without breaking the NDA. But there have been a few other closed beta testers that have posted the same things and have gone on to comment that the beta boards are full of the threads saying last weeks patch has made the game unplayable. But if you can think of a way for me to prove to you I am in closed beta without violating the NDA I would be happy to do so.
give me your account lol.
Yes but atm moderators are employees of funcom... so odds are he/she has direct lines of contact with said devs?
Not necessarily. You can moderate from anywhere, and typically its a completely different department. They may never even meet.
Moderators are generally not much more than fans that can spell and have good grammar, and can be trusted to uphold the forums rules. They have nothing to do with any part of development, in most cases.
In fact most times it a position of a volunteer from the community.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
How do we know your not "full of it"?
You don't. That is the sad part about not bringing down the NDA for closed beta testers. I can only comment on levels 1-13 without breaking the NDA. But there have been a few other closed beta testers that have posted the same things and have gone on to comment that the beta boards are full of the threads saying last weeks patch has made the game unplayable. But if you can think of a way for me to prove to you I am in closed beta without violating the NDA I would be happy to do so.
This has been my point for ages. Theres people that say they re in closed beta and it runs great , theres some that say they re in closed beta and it runs poorly. No lets look at OB. Theres people in it and they say it runs great, then theres people in OB that says(including myself) it runs terrible. See the trend. I beleive all the CB testers that 1 they re in it and 2 theres issues for some and not for others. The game is unstable.
Yes but atm moderators are employees of funcom... so odds are he/she has direct lines of contact with said devs?
Not necessarily. You can moderate from anywhere, and typically its a completely different department. They may never even meet.
Moderators are generally not much more than fans that can spell and have good grammar, and can be trusted to uphold the forums rules. They have nothing to do with any part of development, in most cases.
In fact most times it a position of a volunteer from the community.
So funcom is letting him lie?
"don´t ask for an answer if you don´t want to hear it."
Precisely!
Really interesting thread.
thanks.
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Oh my nameYes, be very afraid.
Where did you get the idea? Just had this conversation with someone else.
Saying that the closed beta client is just like the open beta client really isn't breaking NDAI don't think we need an ethics lesson from someone who is talking about being in the closed beta.
saying "Oh wow you gotta try this really cool quest at level 7"
THATS breaking NDA
so... maybe you should look up the word Ethics?
Oh my nameYes, be very afraid.
Where did you get the idea? Just had this conversation with someone else.
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