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So what is going on with Funcom PR?
shamall
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It seems to me that there is some major miscommunication going on here and its really starting to worry me. First off, I know its been said a thousand times but the open beta never should have been called open beta to begin with. Now they come out and say that the 2 different clients between open and closed beta thing is just a rumor.
Sorry, I'm in both open and closed beta and I see bugs in open beta that are not in closed beta and for him to come out and say that the clients are the same is just flat out not correct. One thing I noticed was that in closed beta every time you do a fatality blood splats on your screen as if it was actually on your moniter and I have not seen open beta do that once. Another thing that was said was that bugs found in open beta client were moved to closed beta to be tested out.
Now someone tell me if I'm just not getting this right. If the open beta client has bugs that the closed beta client doesn't have then doesn't that mean that they are TWO DIFFERENT CLIENTS????
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Its the same client all along it has to be, its just that one is patched differently to the other. They took a version (an older version) of the CB and patched it / built upon it and released it as the fileplanet beta. So there will be bugs different in each and performance in each will be different. Fatalites do, do the blood on screen for me in both.
Its like you have the same model car, one released in the UK the other the USA. Same essentiallly but the steering wheel is on the opposite side so its going to drive a bit different.
Same client but patched a bit differently, the supposed update to the OB client was done on purpose for specific testing. As it turned out some parts got worse because of this. And the errors causing these weird things are semi ported to the CB for further testing and evaluation.
New patch, today...Yay
As far as I understand n read it is two different clients...but I could be wrong. Could you please post some links to where you got this info?
Let me get this straight.
Your inability to properly comprehend another persons writing has led you to the conclusion that the FC Rep confirmed that the clients were not different, which is incorrect.
Go back and re-read the article, then stop and actually look at the context of whats been written, he confirmed they are different, just not in the words people expected.
At any rate, this is hardly deserving of its own thread, but I'm not surprised in the least that people thought this was worth complaining about, standard operating procedure on these forums is to complain first without having half a clue about that which you are speaking.
FunCom has always said the beta client is always at least a minimum of a few weeks behind the build there internal team has access too and uses for development, they have never made that a secret, and it has always been common knowledge since near the start of the Beta program.
So, taking that into consideration, it makes it easier to understand the context of Jorgen Tharaldsen's responses.
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I can see your epitaph now, on the day you expire. It will read "Wasted Potential".
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theres an option to turn gore on/off you may be aware of it but, in case you're not you might wanna make sure its checked.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/view/news/read/10666
There you go mate.
MrListerSir : red dwarf fan?
If you read the interview, he said the rumor of 2 different clients is not >entirely< true. This also means that it's not >entirely< wrong either.
The truth is that they don't have 1 magic client. They have between 12 and 15 branches they put together when they make a new build. OB and CB are the same core, just on different patch levels, and they are 2-3 weeks old already.
edit: oups Avery already said so while I was typing
If you read this article it is the same client, except that the Open Beta client has been patched with some extra fixes they were working on that led to some un-wanted side-effects, which they are fixing with the patches that are being released during OB. Not too difficult to understand if you read the article. Move along.
I hate to disappoint you but both the OP and Avery are right, it's the same client but different patch. The only way this could be false is if the <entirely> means false... which would just be idiotic on their part if you ask me but who knows what the hell the devs at FC are doing. This is from the article:
"And yes, I have seen the same rumors that it’s [the beta client] old, but it’s not entirely true."
I agree that the lack of communication is disturbing, I figured from all their talk about these sorts of issues a couple months ago would mean they would have a very good team based around communication, but we are seeing very little of that. What FC is planning on doing with this is beyond my comprehension. If you want info your best bet would be to get some contact with someone working over at FC handling these sorts of things via e-mail (I'm sure they have at least one guy working on this), not asking a bunch of people on this forum. We know just as much info as of now as you, which is very little.
Douhk don't discard MrListerSir based on the little information you are gathering here from forum speculation and the scarce PR information.
Don't forget that many on these forums are communicating and getting feedback from the devs and have said too much already. What he said is as valid as what was said above and complements it nicely.
Based off of the information that we were given, which is what this thread is judging by, according to that sentence in that specific article, I don't know how else we are supposed to word it to other than how it is said. Considering it is from the head editor I also think I can take it for it's word.
Meh, if it turns out that both clients are different than I officially claim that I no longer understand FC's language. But I'm pretty confident that's the truth.
Hehe, you are lost in translation again
What he said in the interview is of course right, as well as what people in this thread are saying. He said "the rumor is not >entirely< true". Now put this together with what was said in this thread and you get the whole picture.
Or do you want me to say it to you differently? Is one client with different patches still the same client ? Yes and no ?
Hehe, you are lost in translation again
What he said in the interview is of course right, as well as what people in this thread are saying. He said "the rumor is not >entirely< true". Now put this together with what was said in this thread and you get the whole picture.
Or do you want me to say it to you differently? Is one client with different patches still the same client ? Yes and no ?
hmm, well if you look at it that way you could see it as a yes and a no, but tbh a patch and a client are two different things, at least the way I look at it. I don't really want to start an argument though, I was just restating what was stated in the article, as there was a misunderstanding. In no way did I mean to start an argument over it, if you think that was what I was implying...
...geesh, I guess an argument can be made out of anything these days
Hehe, no argument on either side
I believe a polygraph would return with all comments being "deceptive" if FunCom's PR staff were given one. If it weren't for memory leaks and having to constantly recompile shaders, the game would be in far better shape. I've actually noticed more leaks since the opening and am again considering cancelling my pre-order because of the difficulty for the client to stabilize at times. I don't exactly feel assured that what we get at release will be much better than what we have now, im sure some stuff will be fixed but 150 programmers can't iron out the game in 2 weeks, regardless of whether they know there are bugs or not.
What app are you using to determine the memory leaks?