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Where are the Asians?
Caldicot
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When I browse through the forums on this site I often come across posts about Asian stuff.
It could be about an Asian grinder, Asian/Chinese farmers or my favourite: "a game designed for an Asian population".
BUT almost every time "something Asian" is brought into a discussion it's in a negative way.
And we often talk about Asians as if they were from another planet or something.
My questions are; aren't there any Asians using these forums? You have internet too eh? 
Do you feel mistreated when it comes to "MMO-talk"?
Of course non-Asians are welcome to have an opinon as well.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan
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I was just in Japan and all I can say it the women are hot hot hot. Even my girlfriend could not stop commenting on how cute all the Japanese women were. And they have the best fashion sense ever, the men and woman.
Sorry, this has nothing to do with your point.
Just a guess here, but since most of the negative posts use Asian as a term referring to people living in a specific part of the world, rather than an ethnic group, and most of the Asians on these forums are probably ethnic Asians living outside the countries being criticized (typically Korea or China), they probably either don't care about the negative posts, or agree with them.
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Ya I am from Bangladesh which is in asia, so you have to be more specific. But you are prolly talking about Koreans, chinese and Japanese.
I think most asian ppl have problems with the english language, so they feel saver with their own ppl.
...they are grinding...
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I am not any asian race. But, I grew up around Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese.
I think the main thing is that Asian Peoples are about like white ppl when it comes to race. They simply just don't care. They haven't had really any mass discrimination in the past because of race, other than internal Asian history. A person might get mad if you say something like "G**k" (not meant as derogatory, just explaining myself) or "I hate C***ks" (again) or "Those GD Japs", because that's referring to a specific race. Which is something else most ppl don't understand, Asian and Oriental is not a Race in and of itself (at least every single Asian decent person I know sees it that way) because each country's people are very different.
I'm kinda all over the place here, but what I think is that it's because they haven't really been discriminated in the past for being Asian. Unlike... Black People, Jewish, or Polish who have all long histories of discrimination and tend to get offended when people talk about their race in a way that can be interp. as bad. (And rightfully so IMHO)
Not only that, but when we say "Stupid Asian Games" we aren't downing their race. It's merely a clash of cultures and those with Asian origins in the US are not Asians, they are Americans. American is a culture itself. They may have Korean background for example, but that doesn't mean they grew up in a Korean Culture. They grew up in an American culture.
(Sorry if this post makes no sense. It's hard for me to put my thoughts together coherently for some reason tonight. lol. Lack of Sleep)
Where are the Asians?
At onrpg.com , i wouldn't go there though. They're total dicks.
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They are all over at my place, in Atlantic Canada. We've over-run my and three other surrounding towns, so far, and more are on the way.
We're haveing the most knarly and wickedly outrageous Block Part-EH Evah!!! ...and it's not stopping until the end of time!
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Where are the Asians?
I'm just gonna toss out a wild guess here... but asia? Do I win a fortune cookie?
Asian games are frequently refered to in a negative light because they are grinders.
Western culture people typically do not 'like' these types of games. We prefer 'grinders' that are grinders but don't seem so grindy.
Conversely, 'asians' typically don't care for our western games.
I wonder how LOTRO will pan out in china.
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Well first of all, I don't think we have a difference in taste of game. I highly doubt that asians in general, in this context, enjoy grinding. It's just that they realize the potential to make money, and in that regard, because they're not spoiled like we tend to be, are willing to work hard to make money off of the lazy westerners by playing their games for them... A concept I blame my people (americans) for... There is however, a definite difference in aesthetic tastes though. The cutesy games don't go over so well in america, but they take off like crazy in Japan at least, maybe that's just cause there are more female gamers, or admitted female gamers at least.... Those are the only real differences I see between "Asians" and the english speaking gaming community.
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Most of the Asians you might find on this site are probably Singaporean or Filipino as I believe they are native English speakers in those countries. The Asians mostly responsible for the "grinders" people talk about are probably too busy in their own non English world to be concerned about mmorpg.com.
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I'm also starting to move towards this viewpoint.
It seems like we can continue as before
No harm done.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan
Lol, even I had no idea where it came from. It was just a pic off of an avatar dump site that I choose. But, thanks for letting me know.
EDIT-- Haha!, apparantly my avatar can block a dragon. Ah, who knew? .../shrug lol
* Life is not black or white, it's shades of grey. But, at it's best/worst, it hints at 32bit color. -Me (a.k.a. RuthlessTimes)
* I do not need to know how to make a better game than you. I just need to know how to cancel my subscription. -Antarious(a slight misquote but the sentiment remains)
How magnanimous of you.
asian culture is different......asians like to be together in groups....and also work hard to get somethig....which is reflected in their games
you seem to have the same problem
also allot of china is poor....gold farming and powerleveling is easy money
Being a minority especially one that recieves alot of negative comments and connotations is not something most people enjoy. I choose to avoid conflict by not discussing anything that might single me out in a group of people like ethnicity, religion, political views, etc. After all just reading alot of the comments relating to asians and other minority groups I belong to I can see all the intolerance this community and other gaming communities have.
stereotyping is a bitch
pisses me off 2 
I don't expect a community of gamers who come from all walks of life to become completly tolerant since even some of the games sold nowadays have prejudice in them.
no..its just most use the term asian mmo as an insult now...and asians as gold sellers and grinders...its pretty sad..and mods do nothing...
I'm a Malaysian Chinese, and a frequent lurker 'round here.
Yes, I dunno why MMORPG.com-ers talk about Asians as if it's like races from another dimension or something, lol. (Hell, Asia is so big. What's with the silly pan-Asian thing?) It's easy to blame "us" just because you played a bad Asian grindfest, but of course we all hate them stupid MMOs with boring droning gameplay. Come on, who doesn't?
I don't feel mistreated, I feel isolated. Like how half-baked medieval MMOs would get featured here over the non-translated titles (Uncharted Waters Online, Emil Chronicle Online and Shin Megami Tensei: IMAGINE, anyone?). It would be nice if the "Asian" side of the community here is more than just digging around in the Open Beta forum for "rare Asian titles".
Fun info: Just like high fantasy is being abused as a subject in MMORPGs, so is Chinese wuxia fantasy. Wish they would go further than that.
... more Steampunk MMOs plx!