Regarding DAoC... I think DAoC veterans are up to a big disappointment.
a rip-off of WoW's crafting system; yet WAR's crafting is entirely different and doesn't even resemble it in the slightest way! Thats amusing!
...and I am a vet of DAoC and everything I've seen so far is on the right path and now with the financial backing they didn't have with DAoC its only going to be much better! Mythic released DAoC early cause they ran out of money and to this day its still rated above almost every MMO out!
There will be ppl after the release shouting on the general "omg it's a clone" so be prepared for the ignorants to be around comparing everything to WoW and believing that WoW started the whole mmorpg genre. Especially that WAR is based on WoW look and not wise-versa.
Regarding DAoC... I think DAoC veterans are up to a big disappointment.
a rip-off of WoW's crafting system; yet WAR's crafting is entirely different and doesn't even resemble it in the slightest way! Thats amusing! Really?
WOW: disenchant items to get magical essence.
WAR: disenchant items to get magical essence.
Entirely different and doesnt even resemble it in the slightest way? Are you sure? In the slightest way?
WoW - Buy Pattern plug in parts
WAR - Plug in Parts see what happens
Better yet
WoW - Buy Pattern / formula disenchant, stand around yelling to hopefully enchant items (making it a pain in the ass to make money off of and primarily a guildies only use).
WAR - 'disenchant' for random magical bits, Create Enchanted talismen from random magical bits, Sell Talismen on AH. No Pattern / Formula Necessary, no standing around hoping someone has time & money to wait for you to place the enchantment.
Very different systems..there is no other way to do Enchants..a game with magical items will have enchanting thats just how it is..but even in WOW they have to buyf ucking Enchant patterns n bullshit you don't do that in WAR thats why WAR's system is different. If anything WoW copied frigging other games for Enchanting hmm OH frigging EQ..Ooh...god your such ... troll Atlair atleast get it right for once in your life.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
It is fair to say that if you played WoW this game will be very familiar to you. It will feel like Deja Vu. This is coming from the folks in media that have had a hands on preview. It is a very smart business move on Mythics part, IMO, because people like what is familiar to them. It looks like WoW only darker! It plays like WoW too! Brilliant! So suck it up and take it like a man - the game is similar to WoW anyone who has played both has said so. Sure, the reason why you fight and group is different and Mythic is to be applauded for it, but at the end of the day the game smacks of WoW. For me, there are things about this game i like but there are things too similar to WoW for my comfort. Some of the features I don't like about WoW are in this game too. Booooo! I don't understand why you folks just can't accept the truth - it plays like World of Warcraft. Do you honestly think that Mythic has never heard of WoW and that they don't want what WoW has? Of course they have and of course they do! And how do you relieve your competitor of his consumer? By doing what he has done - better! and that is the question you should ask yourself. Not is Warhammer online similair to WoW but, is it better than WoW? Then vote with your wallet.
Similarities I see:
The UI.
I don't count Fantasy races as a similarity because it's a High Fantasy game, just like WoW...and EQ...and just about every other fantasy game out there. So to say WAR's a WoW clone because of that is seriously lacking IQ. Besides that, everything else I see that might resemble WoW is actually being taken by Mythic and being improved upon about eightfold. That's how I see it. An example: Battlegrounds in WoW. Four of them. Now, there will be 30 scenarios in WAR...4x8 is 32, so its got about 8 times the "battlegrounds" that WoW does. Plus with different objectives and ways to control the battle.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Regarding DAoC... I think DAoC veterans are up to a big disappointment.
a rip-off of WoW's crafting system; yet WAR's crafting is entirely different and doesn't even resemble it in the slightest way! Thats amusing! Really?
WOW: disenchant items to get magical essence.
WAR: disenchant items to get magical essence.
Entirely different and doesnt even resemble it in the slightest way? Are you sure? In the slightest way?
WoW - Buy Pattern plug in parts
WAR - Plug in Parts see what happens
Better yet
WoW - Buy Pattern / formula disenchant, stand around yelling to hopefully enchant items (making it a pain in the ass to make money off of and primarily a guildies only use).
WAR - 'disenchant' for random magical bits, Create Enchanted talismen from random magical bits, Sell Talismen on AH. No Pattern / Formula Necessary, no standing around hoping someone has time & money to wait for you to place the enchantment.
Very different systems..there is no other way to do Enchants..a game with magical items will have enchanting thats just how it is..but even in WOW they have to buyf ucking Enchant patterns n bullshit you don't do that in WAR thats why WAR's system is different. If anything WoW copied frigging other games for Enchanting hmm OH frigging EQ..Ooh...god your such ... troll Atlair atleast get it right for once in your life.
Not only that but when you disenchant as you're saying in WAR you don't just get a shard, you get a shard or magical item with a choice of which stat that was on the item! If it has +10 Int and +10 Str, you can choose which of those stats is retained on the shard when you disenchant it! So if you choose the +10 Int, you lose the +10 Str but now you have a shard that you can add to a talisman with a guaranteed +10 Int on it!
You cannot do that in WoW! You get what the recipe says and 9/10 times they are worthless so you just go raid for a piece of gear instead! So yeah doesn't resemble WoW in the slightest way!
I'm very confident that everyone that claim WAR=WoW have played both games and can back up their statement with actual gameplay (screenshots doesn't apply here, sorry).
I mean seriously, in both games you play as a "character" and you walk places and do things and there are orcs and quests and other players.
OMG OMG OMG what an exact copy!
...
My point is you guys really need to freaking look up the word "Clone"
clone
1.
Biology.
a.
a cell, cell product, or organism that is genetically identical to the unit or individual from which it was derived.
b.
a population of identical units, cells, or individuals that derive from the same ancestral line.
2.
a person or thing that duplicates, imitates, or closely resembles another in appearance, function, performance, or style: All the fashion models seemed to be clones of one another.
–verb (used with object)
3.
to produce a copy or imitation of.
So yes, one could say anything even slightly resembling something else is a clone. However you could just as well say that every book is similar to another book because they all have black words in them rather than red words or blue words.
The opposite is true too, don't be so freaking when someone changes a small thing.
"OMG THIS BOOK HAS PINK LETTERING! ITS TOTALLY UNIQUE!"
never mind the fact that its just a copy of J.R.R. tolkien's LOTR.
Every Game is a copy, stop saying that something copied something else.
Your a copy!
Whats so bad about taking ideas and making them in a new way, or are you suggesting that anyone who ever makes macaroni art should be killed because "THEY R COPYING ME!"
Regarding DAoC... I think DAoC veterans are up to a big disappointment.
a rip-off of WoW's crafting system; yet WAR's crafting is entirely different and doesn't even resemble it in the slightest way! Thats amusing! Really?
WOW: disenchant items to get magical essence.
WAR: disenchant items to get magical essence.
Entirely different and doesnt even resemble it in the slightest way? Are you sure? In the slightest way?
WoW - Buy Pattern plug in parts
WAR - Plug in Parts see what happens
Better yet
WoW - Buy Pattern / formula disenchant, stand around yelling to hopefully enchant items (making it a pain in the ass to make money off of and primarily a guildies only use).
WAR - 'disenchant' for random magical bits, Create Enchanted talismen from random magical bits, Sell Talismen on AH. No Pattern / Formula Necessary, no standing around hoping someone has time & money to wait for you to place the enchantment.
Very different systems..there is no other way to do Enchants..a game with magical items will have enchanting thats just how it is..but even in WOW they have to buyf ucking Enchant patterns n bullshit you don't do that in WAR thats why WAR's system is different. If anything WoW copied frigging other games for Enchanting hmm OH frigging EQ..Ooh...god your such ... troll Atlair atleast get it right for once in your life.
Not only that but when you disenchant as you're saying in WAR you don't just get a shard, you get a shard or magical item with a choice of which stat that was on the item! If it has +10 Int and +10 Str, you can choose which of those stats is retained on the shard when you disenchant it! So if you choose the +10 Int, you lose the +10 Str but now you have a shard that you can add to a talisman with a guaranteed +10 Int on it!
You cannot do that in WoW! You get what the recipe says and 9/10 times they are worthless so you just go raid for a piece of gear instead! So yeah doesn't resemble WoW in the slightest way!
Well, if you don't see the slightest resemblance... fanatism is blinding you, sorry.
Thats kinda like saying Coke is a clone of Beer because they both have bubbles...
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Regarding DAoC... I think DAoC veterans are up to a big disappointment.
a rip-off of WoW's crafting system; yet WAR's crafting is entirely different and doesn't even resemble it in the slightest way! Thats amusing! Really?
WOW: disenchant items to get magical essence.
WAR: disenchant items to get magical essence.
Entirely different and doesnt even resemble it in the slightest way? Are you sure? In the slightest way?
WoW - Buy Pattern plug in parts
WAR - Plug in Parts see what happens
Better yet
WoW - Buy Pattern / formula disenchant, stand around yelling to hopefully enchant items (making it a pain in the ass to make money off of and primarily a guildies only use).
WAR - 'disenchant' for random magical bits, Create Enchanted talismen from random magical bits, Sell Talismen on AH. No Pattern / Formula Necessary, no standing around hoping someone has time & money to wait for you to place the enchantment.
Very different systems..there is no other way to do Enchants..a game with magical items will have enchanting thats just how it is..but even in WOW they have to buyf ucking Enchant patterns n bullshit you don't do that in WAR thats why WAR's system is different. If anything WoW copied frigging other games for Enchanting hmm OH frigging EQ..Ooh...god your such ... troll Atlair atleast get it right for once in your life.
Not only that but when you disenchant as you're saying in WAR you don't just get a shard, you get a shard or magical item with a choice of which stat that was on the item! If it has +10 Int and +10 Str, you can choose which of those stats is retained on the shard when you disenchant it! So if you choose the +10 Int, you lose the +10 Str but now you have a shard that you can add to a talisman with a guaranteed +10 Int on it!
You cannot do that in WoW! You get what the recipe says and 9/10 times they are worthless so you just go raid for a piece of gear instead! So yeah doesn't resemble WoW in the slightest way!
Well, if you don't see the slightest resemblance... fanatism is blinding you, sorry.
There can be a resemblance but COME ON you cant use only one example to prove your point the CRAFTING SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT DEAL WITH IT and STOP trolling our forums altairzq just GTFO we are tried of you and everyone else who only comes on here to post BS info about WAR get the facts...deal with it .... go play EQ for find something productive with your life ...
This game is being based off Dark Age of Camelot !!!! It is not a wow clone.......there is no such thing as a wow clone. If anyone keeps up with mmos you would know that blizzard was once in talks to make this game for Games workshop and pulled out !!! They decided to make a mmo based of warcraft lore which is based on games workshops early pen and paper/minatures games. Now that Mythic is making it they are using their own system which is a exact copy of Daoc wiht some polish. Graphics don't make or break a game look at grand theft auto graphics sucked but gameplay was awesome. Tired of people saying everything is a wow clone, read up and get some facts then post plz!!!!!!! In any matter don't call any mmo wow clone unless the company that made it has no proir mmo under their belt, and the game looks like they rip the graphics straight from the wow cds
warhammer had orcs and dwarfs and crap long before blizzard and its warcraft so on so saying comparing this wow as a clone just says what a complete noob you are
This game is being based off Dark Age of Camelot !!!! It is not a wow clone.......there is no such thing as a wow clone. If anyone keeps up with mmos you would know that blizzard was once in talks to make this game for Games workshop and pulled out !!! They decided to make a mmo based of warcraft lore which is based on games workshops early pen and paper/minatures games. Now that Mythic is making it they are using their own system which is a exact copy of Daoc wiht some polish. Graphics don't make or break a game look at grand theft auto graphics sucked but gameplay was awesome. Tired of people saying everything is a wow clone, read up and get some facts then post plz!!!!!!! In any matter don't call any mmo wow clone unless the company that made it has no proir mmo under their belt, and the game looks like they rip the graphics straight from the wow cds
Shut up.
These threads are all over the place. I should make one that says stop posting re-peat threads lol. Us who have followed WAR know what it is and those who don't will know eventually because you can bet damn sure that most MMO fans will atleat try the game out.
It really depends on what your definition of a clone is. Not to paint myself into a corner but the graphics ARE the same, the UI IS the same, the new spell and abillities you receive are in the same format, the pvp is REALLY close.
You know why? Because its all based on the EVERQUEST format. EVERQUEST and Dark Age of Camelot had that UI system before WoW, those two games had the spell and abilities system before WoW, and those graphics are based purely on past Warhammer titles. Guess what Warcraft based their graphics on? The tabletop WARHAMMER games.
As for the PvP, not even remotely close. Mythic invented the RvR system, which is still the best PvP system on the market, save for a game that does FFA PvP right (Ultima Online). And that's the system they're butting into WAR, not WoW's tacked on, go here if you wanna fool around PvP. RvR will control this game. In WoW, it doesn't effect anyone who doesn't want to be involved.
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...and I am a vet of DAoC and everything I've seen so far is on the right path and now with the financial backing they didn't have with DAoC its only going to be much better! Mythic released DAoC early cause they ran out of money and to this day its still rated above almost every MMO out!
What??? Warhammer isn't Dr. Pepper!!!! It's Mountain Dew you fool!!!
anyways, its not a wow clone
WAR is coming, and it's changing everything!
WOW: disenchant items to get magical essence.
WAR: disenchant items to get magical essence.
Entirely different and doesnt even resemble it in the slightest way? Are you sure? In the slightest way?
Yawns
There will be ppl after the release shouting on the general "omg it's a clone" so be prepared for the ignorants to be around comparing everything to WoW and believing that WoW started the whole mmorpg genre. Especially that WAR is based on WoW look and not wise-versa.
a rip-off of WoW's crafting system; yet WAR's crafting is entirely different and doesn't even resemble it in the slightest way! Thats amusing! Really?WOW: disenchant items to get magical essence.
WAR: disenchant items to get magical essence.
Entirely different and doesnt even resemble it in the slightest way? Are you sure? In the slightest way?
WoW - Buy Pattern plug in parts
WAR - Plug in Parts see what happens
Better yet
WoW - Buy Pattern / formula disenchant, stand around yelling to hopefully enchant items (making it a pain in the ass to make money off of and primarily a guildies only use).
WAR - 'disenchant' for random magical bits, Create Enchanted talismen from random magical bits, Sell Talismen on AH. No Pattern / Formula Necessary, no standing around hoping someone has time & money to wait for you to place the enchantment.
Very different systems..there is no other way to do Enchants..a game with magical items will have enchanting thats just how it is..but even in WOW they have to buyf ucking Enchant patterns n bullshit you don't do that in WAR thats why WAR's system is different. If anything WoW copied frigging other games for Enchanting hmm OH frigging EQ..Ooh...god your such ... troll Atlair atleast get it right for once in your life.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
The UI.
I don't count Fantasy races as a similarity because it's a High Fantasy game, just like WoW...and EQ...and just about every other fantasy game out there. So to say WAR's a WoW clone because of that is seriously lacking IQ. Besides that, everything else I see that might resemble WoW is actually being taken by Mythic and being improved upon about eightfold. That's how I see it. An example: Battlegrounds in WoW. Four of them. Now, there will be 30 scenarios in WAR...4x8 is 32, so its got about 8 times the "battlegrounds" that WoW does. Plus with different objectives and ways to control the battle.
--------------------------------------
A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
WOW: disenchant items to get magical essence.
WAR: disenchant items to get magical essence.
Entirely different and doesnt even resemble it in the slightest way? Are you sure? In the slightest way?
WoW - Buy Pattern plug in parts
WAR - Plug in Parts see what happens
Better yet
WoW - Buy Pattern / formula disenchant, stand around yelling to hopefully enchant items (making it a pain in the ass to make money off of and primarily a guildies only use).
WAR - 'disenchant' for random magical bits, Create Enchanted talismen from random magical bits, Sell Talismen on AH. No Pattern / Formula Necessary, no standing around hoping someone has time & money to wait for you to place the enchantment.
Very different systems..there is no other way to do Enchants..a game with magical items will have enchanting thats just how it is..but even in WOW they have to buyf ucking Enchant patterns n bullshit you don't do that in WAR thats why WAR's system is different. If anything WoW copied frigging other games for Enchanting hmm OH frigging EQ..Ooh...god your such ... troll Atlair atleast get it right for once in your life.
Not only that but when you disenchant as you're saying in WAR you don't just get a shard, you get a shard or magical item with a choice of which stat that was on the item! If it has +10 Int and +10 Str, you can choose which of those stats is retained on the shard when you disenchant it! So if you choose the +10 Int, you lose the +10 Str but now you have a shard that you can add to a talisman with a guaranteed +10 Int on it!
You cannot do that in WoW! You get what the recipe says and 9/10 times they are worthless so you just go raid for a piece of gear instead! So yeah doesn't resemble WoW in the slightest way!
I'm very confident that everyone that claim WAR=WoW have played both games and can back up their statement with actual gameplay (screenshots doesn't apply here, sorry).
Very confident...
Just airwalking.
OMG CLEARLY Warhammer is a clone of WoW
I mean seriously, in both games you play as a "character" and you walk places and do things and there are orcs and quests and other players.
OMG OMG OMG what an exact copy!
...
My point is you guys really need to freaking look up the word "Clone"
clone
So yes, one could say anything even slightly resembling something else is a clone. However you could just as well say that every book is similar to another book because they all have black words in them rather than red words or blue words.
The opposite is true too, don't be so freaking
when someone changes a small thing.
"OMG THIS BOOK HAS PINK LETTERING! ITS TOTALLY UNIQUE!"
never mind the fact that its just a copy of J.R.R. tolkien's LOTR.
Every Game is a copy, stop saying that something copied something else.
Your a copy!
Whats so bad about taking ideas and making them in a new way, or are you suggesting that anyone who ever makes macaroni art should be killed because "THEY R COPYING ME!"
WOW: disenchant items to get magical essence.
WAR: disenchant items to get magical essence.
Entirely different and doesnt even resemble it in the slightest way? Are you sure? In the slightest way?
WoW - Buy Pattern plug in parts
WAR - Plug in Parts see what happens
Better yet
WoW - Buy Pattern / formula disenchant, stand around yelling to hopefully enchant items (making it a pain in the ass to make money off of and primarily a guildies only use).
WAR - 'disenchant' for random magical bits, Create Enchanted talismen from random magical bits, Sell Talismen on AH. No Pattern / Formula Necessary, no standing around hoping someone has time & money to wait for you to place the enchantment.
Very different systems..there is no other way to do Enchants..a game with magical items will have enchanting thats just how it is..but even in WOW they have to buyf ucking Enchant patterns n bullshit you don't do that in WAR thats why WAR's system is different. If anything WoW copied frigging other games for Enchanting hmm OH frigging EQ..Ooh...god your such ... troll Atlair atleast get it right for once in your life.
Not only that but when you disenchant as you're saying in WAR you don't just get a shard, you get a shard or magical item with a choice of which stat that was on the item! If it has +10 Int and +10 Str, you can choose which of those stats is retained on the shard when you disenchant it! So if you choose the +10 Int, you lose the +10 Str but now you have a shard that you can add to a talisman with a guaranteed +10 Int on it!
You cannot do that in WoW! You get what the recipe says and 9/10 times they are worthless so you just go raid for a piece of gear instead! So yeah doesn't resemble WoW in the slightest way!
Well, if you don't see the slightest resemblance... fanatism is blinding you, sorry.
Thats kinda like saying Coke is a clone of Beer because they both have bubbles...
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
WOW: disenchant items to get magical essence.
WAR: disenchant items to get magical essence.
Entirely different and doesnt even resemble it in the slightest way? Are you sure? In the slightest way?
WoW - Buy Pattern plug in parts
WAR - Plug in Parts see what happens
Better yet
WoW - Buy Pattern / formula disenchant, stand around yelling to hopefully enchant items (making it a pain in the ass to make money off of and primarily a guildies only use).
WAR - 'disenchant' for random magical bits, Create Enchanted talismen from random magical bits, Sell Talismen on AH. No Pattern / Formula Necessary, no standing around hoping someone has time & money to wait for you to place the enchantment.
Very different systems..there is no other way to do Enchants..a game with magical items will have enchanting thats just how it is..but even in WOW they have to buyf ucking Enchant patterns n bullshit you don't do that in WAR thats why WAR's system is different. If anything WoW copied frigging other games for Enchanting hmm OH frigging EQ..Ooh...god your such ... troll Atlair atleast get it right for once in your life.
Not only that but when you disenchant as you're saying in WAR you don't just get a shard, you get a shard or magical item with a choice of which stat that was on the item! If it has +10 Int and +10 Str, you can choose which of those stats is retained on the shard when you disenchant it! So if you choose the +10 Int, you lose the +10 Str but now you have a shard that you can add to a talisman with a guaranteed +10 Int on it!
You cannot do that in WoW! You get what the recipe says and 9/10 times they are worthless so you just go raid for a piece of gear instead! So yeah doesn't resemble WoW in the slightest way!
Well, if you don't see the slightest resemblance... fanatism is blinding you, sorry.
There can be a resemblance but COME ON you cant use only one example to prove your point the CRAFTING SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT DEAL WITH IT and STOP trolling our forums altairzq just GTFO we are tried of you and everyone else who only comes on here to post BS info about WAR get the facts...deal with it .... go play EQ for find something productive with your life ...
But remember , WoW started it all......
Sarcasm
warhammer had orcs and dwarfs and crap long before blizzard and its warcraft so on so saying comparing this wow as a clone just says what a complete noob you are
they are similar in what?
afk or 15-7 players bgs?
play for lose and get 1 mark?
play the some bgs for years and years?
arena combos?
no world pvp?
pvp joke?
kal?
wow is a pve game, war is pvp. and i will never more put my feet in a pve mmo, never!!! end.
Shut up.
These threads are all over the place. I should make one that says stop posting re-peat threads lol. Us who have followed WAR know what it is and those who don't will know eventually because you can bet damn sure that most MMO fans will atleat try the game out.
You know why? Because its all based on the EVERQUEST format. EVERQUEST and Dark Age of Camelot had that UI system before WoW, those two games had the spell and abilities system before WoW, and those graphics are based purely on past Warhammer titles. Guess what Warcraft based their graphics on? The tabletop WARHAMMER games.
As for the PvP, not even remotely close. Mythic invented the RvR system, which is still the best PvP system on the market, save for a game that does FFA PvP right (Ultima Online). And that's the system they're butting into WAR, not WoW's tacked on, go here if you wanna fool around PvP. RvR will control this game. In WoW, it doesn't effect anyone who doesn't want to be involved.
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