good game with one HUGE problem.....

tvalentine

WTF is with the /instanceselection in the main world? I was told it was only 1-20 where it would be like this ..... this game's instances take the "MM" out of MMORPG. I'm still prolly gonna buy it. Its just gonna be very hard to look passed this crappy design flaw.

/rantoff

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tvalentine

Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

large events like sieges?.......

Shannia

Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

They don't call it it Age of Clonecraft for nothing.

 

Electriceye

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

large events like sieges?.......

Sieges are not instanced.

tvalentine

Originally posted by Electriceye

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

large events like sieges?.......

Sieges are not instanced.

cities arent supposed to be instanced either

vardar

heh if  you dont like the way it is, dont play it, nobody forcing your or anybody else..

nikle76

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

large events like sieges?.......

Lets give FunCom a little credit, having sieges in multiple instances, makes absolutely no sense. Im pretty sure they have taken this into consideration.

Sovrath

 

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Electriceye

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

large events like sieges?.......

Sieges are not instanced.

cities arent supposed to be instanced either

Well that's opinion now isn't it? It's not a design flaw if the developers actually put it in on purpose. It would be a design flaw if they put something in that caused a greater problem. This is only a problem if you think it is. Some might others not. This is how EQ 2 works. It's possible that other games work like this too. Is it great? Well, no. But it is actually DESIGNED this way so that players don't have too many people on their screen. It's essentially a nod to the fact that if you are going to try to create a certain graphical look then of course certain accomodations need to be made.

 

I also remember that Guild Wars works like this. So... it's not a flaw. It's just something that you don't like. Fortunately you will be able to find your mates and change the iteration that you are in.

In the end, it is what it is.

AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Zorndorf


All this because they wanted to have more pixels. Sigh...
And the 5 FPS issue stays with all tthese players in the same zone.
What a mess...

No not all players, just a few. There are bound to be tech issues with a beta client and also for a new mmorpg at launch.

Majority of people are running around just fine.

Its no secret the world is not seamless, its been like this from scratch. And marketed like this since forever.

Its just like EQ in many ways and nothing like GW. Its pretty much the same tech but on a different engine and modernized. Just wait till its released..

Its proof for most you can have good graphics and performance at the same time. Whether people like the game play if they can tick those boxes after is up to them.

Sovrath

Well, it is like guild wars in that cities can have different iterations. It's not like Guild Wars in that the whole world is not instanced to your party

Mordria

It seems like it's zoned the way EQII is zoned, which I like because it reduces world lag. Allot of different areas rather than 1 big laggy one.

tvalentine

Originally posted by Sovrath


 
Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Electriceye

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

large events like sieges?.......

Sieges are not instanced.

cities arent supposed to be instanced either

Well that's opinion now isn't it? It's not a design flaw if the developers actually put it in on purpose. It would be a design flaw if they put something in that caused a greater problem. This is only a problem if you think it is. Some might others not. This is how EQ 2 works. It's possible that other games work like this too. Is it great? Well, no. But it is actually DESIGNED this way so that players don't have too many people on their screen. It's essentially a nod to the fact that if you are going to try to create a certain graphical look then of course certain accomodations need to be made.

 

I also remember that Guild Wars works like this. So... it's not a flaw. It's just something that you don't like. Fortunately you will be able to find your mates and change the iteration that you are in.

In the end, it is what it is.

opinion not to have cities instanced?? who wants to split a city's population up into instances? If a server gets full or busy you move on to the next server like "other games"

 

P.S. i never played EQ2, or GW

Sovrath

Originally posted by tvalentine


 
Originally posted by Sovrath


 
Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Electriceye

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

large events like sieges?.......

Sieges are not instanced.

cities arent supposed to be instanced either

Well that's opinion now isn't it? It's not a design flaw if the developers actually put it in on purpose. It would be a design flaw if they put something in that caused a greater problem. This is only a problem if you think it is. Some might others not. This is how EQ 2 works. It's possible that other games work like this too. Is it great? Well, no. But it is actually DESIGNED this way so that players don't have too many people on their screen. It's essentially a nod to the fact that if you are going to try to create a certain graphical look then of course certain accomodations need to be made.

 

I also remember that Guild Wars works like this. So... it's not a flaw. It's just something that you don't like. Fortunately you will be able to find your mates and change the iteration that you are in.

In the end, it is what it is.

opinion not to have cities instanced?? who wants to split a city's population up into instances? If a server gets full or busy you move on to the next server like "other games"

 

 

P.S. i never played EQ2, or GW

No, it's opinion that it's a flaw. It's a fact that it is a design decision. And as I've said, this has been used before. yes "it's a shame" that it has to be done but it's workable. Not great but very workable.

tvalentine

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by tvalentine


 
Originally posted by Sovrath


 
Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Electriceye

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

large events like sieges?.......

Sieges are not instanced.

cities arent supposed to be instanced either

Well that's opinion now isn't it? It's not a design flaw if the developers actually put it in on purpose. It would be a design flaw if they put something in that caused a greater problem. This is only a problem if you think it is. Some might others not. This is how EQ 2 works. It's possible that other games work like this too. Is it great? Well, no. But it is actually DESIGNED this way so that players don't have too many people on their screen. It's essentially a nod to the fact that if you are going to try to create a certain graphical look then of course certain accomodations need to be made.

 

I also remember that Guild Wars works like this. So... it's not a flaw. It's just something that you don't like. Fortunately you will be able to find your mates and change the iteration that you are in.

In the end, it is what it is.

opinion not to have cities instanced?? who wants to split a city's population up into instances? If a server gets full or busy you move on to the next server like "other games"

 

 

P.S. i never played EQ2, or GW

No, it's opinion that it's a flaw. It's a fact that it is a design decision. And as I've said, this has been used before. yes "it's a shame" that it has to be done but it's workable. Not great but very workable.

ohh ok i misread your post then

xcalibur

Originally posted by tvalentineopinion not to have cities instanced?? who wants to split a city's population up into instances? If a server gets full or busy you move on to the next server like "other games"
 
 
P.S. i never played EQ2, or GW

That's a great idea, then like 'other games' there will be 50 people on some servers after a time and you'll have to merge them causing name changes, etc.

tvalentine

Originally posted by xcalibur


 
Originally posted by tvalentineopinion not to have cities instanced?? who wants to split a city's population up into instances? If a server gets full or busy you move on to the next server like "other games"
 
 
P.S. i never played EQ2, or GW

 

That's a great idea, then like 'other games' there will be 50 people on some servers after a time and you'll have to merge them causing name changes, etc.

i quoted those words because the other guy was saying how it is like "other games". And if you want a good idea of what games i was referring to, think back to EQ, UO, SWG, WoW to the type of system i think is better.

Aelfinn

I have no problems whatsoever with this form of instancing, particularly with the collision detection in this game. I don't mind competing with 2,3, even 5 other groups in the same area going for similar objectives, it generally makes victory all the sweeter, but having an area constantly swamped is little fun for anybody. The same holds true for cities, I don't enjoy having to push and lag through crowds of 50+ just to reach the bloody blacksmith.

alakram

Well I dont see this as a problem. A lot of games create copies of areas when they are crowed. This way you dont find 200 people in a place bloking you to reach some other place behind them. And the rest of the gameis Awesome in my opinion. At least what I tried in open Beta. Too bad shaders are still half working on mu computer

tvalentine

ill get used to it ..... was just ranting

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Charlizd

Originally posted by Zorndorf


All this because they wanted to have more pixels. Sigh...
And the 5 FPS issue stays with all these players in the same zone.
What a mess...

well i get 30fps in the main city's even with all the people around so no mess here.

daylight01

Originally posted by Shannia


 
Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

 

They don't call it it Age of Clonecraft for nothing.

 

Shannia you are quickly becomming the worst poster on this site,you hate the game,that is clear to see but why oh why do you feel the need to post the same crap every day?

To the OP yes there is zonning,In many posts by the devs they have said this would have to be so as they wanted to have the graphic's they wanted and they had to set the game this way,they had to give and take with something's and this is one of them,dont be mislead into believing you will have to zone every 200mtrs etc but yes you will have some loading screens when you travel larger distance's.

All this depends on your point of view(also your system)if this will be a major problem,I mean you could end up being in the same zone all night and never see a load screen or if you do maybe it will be quite fast,time will tell.

damian7

Originally posted by daylight01


 
Originally posted by Shannia


 
Originally posted by Fion


The game works like many other MMOGs in that once a zone gets to a certain capacity in players, it creates a duplicate of itself. Right now there are several instances for the zones folks are in because the zones are so overloaded with players. As the game is released and the populations spread out, the only place you'll see it happen is in Tortage or other zones during large events.

 

They don't call it it Age of Clonecraft for nothing.

 

Shannia you are quickly becomming the worst poster on this site,you hate the game,that is clear to see but why oh why do you feel the need to post the same crap every day?

 

To the OP yes there is zonning,In many posts by the devs they have said this would have to be so as they wanted to have the graphic's they wanted and they had to set the game this way,they had to give and take with something's and this is one of them,dont be mislead into believing you will have to zone every 200mtrs etc but yes you will have some loading screens when you travel larger distance's.

All this depends on your point of view(also your system)if this will be a major problem,I mean you could end up being in the same zone all night and never see a load screen or if you do maybe it will be quite fast,time will tell.

but, that last "miracle patch" reduced graphic quality, right?

something sounds wrong.

daylight01

yeah....Lets get this right alot of ppl seen alot of improvment from the last patch and with OB closing on Sunday they still have time to sort out why alot seen improvement and a few seen a dip,Is there any chance we gamer's being the fickle bunch we are can at least give them to launch to prove themselve's and there game before we bury them?

I mean we whine for months we have no new game's but as soon as 1 pops its head out we want to bury it.This trend is alittle worrying.

Mordria

Well, I like the zoned idea. It lessens lag and makes the game easier to add on expansions.. I would think anyway.

Not much different from EQ2, or EvE online where each solar system in the game is a different zone..