As has been stated before, alot of people are used to "wow comp specs" where any old system could run the game. While that is great for business and for casual people, it doesn't do much for the genre as a whole (as far as pushing the envelope on graphics). The truth is, many of us are going to go to newegg and overhaul some aspect of our pc, or just go out and buy a new one for 1000$ that will satisfy any game's specs for the next few years. Even if you end up hating the game, youll be good to go for WAR BTW, I happen to be building a new comp, to be able to run this game, for under 1000$. Anyone could do the same if they took the time and knew what they wanted. Thank Funcom when you comp doesn't suck anymore
Yeah alot of people upgraded for Vanguard so I think they should that Vanguard that they got good enoug of a computer to run AoC.
EDIT: Sorry got a flashback and thougth you was talking about Vanguard. Meh, deja vu, it wasn't original 12 months ago and it isn't today. Sorry.
Just a comment to the folks who think you need to buy a new PC every couple of years or go out to get a new computer to play AoC. The majority of computer users are going to go to big box store to pick up their new computer and think that its great because its a dual core or quad core with a huge hard drive. Of course when this get this POS home they're going to find out that its not good for gaming and they'll have to buy a video card thats worth just as much as the rest of the computer. Most consumers just aren't going to do this which means they'll play the games they can (web based crap or WoW). I wish AoC all the best but the community just isn't going to be what you all hope it will be...it'll mostly be teenagers or hard core gamers that won't be roleplaying or building relationships which to me is what an MMORPG is all about.
I agree, I think most consumers go to Best Buy and buy dell's and hp's for $1000.00 that are not going to run these graphic intesne games. That $1000.00 could be used to build a really nice computer that could run AoC no problems at all. You can even get a very nice computer from online gaming computer websites.
Just a comment to the folks who think you need to buy a new PC every couple of years or go out to get a new computer to play AoC. The majority of computer users are going to go to big box store to pick up their new computer and think that its great because its a dual core or quad core with a huge hard drive. Of course when this get this POS home they're going to find out that its not good for gaming and they'll have to buy a video card thats worth just as much as the rest of the computer. Most consumers just aren't going to do this which means they'll play the games they can (web based crap or WoW). I wish AoC all the best but the community just isn't going to be what you all hope it will be...it'll mostly be teenagers or hard core gamers that won't be roleplaying or building relationships which to me is what an MMORPG is all about.
I agree, I think most consumers go to Best Buy and buy dell's and hp's for $1000.00 that are not going to run these graphic intesne games. That $1000.00 could be used to build a really nice computer that could run AoC no problems at all. You can even get a very nice computer from online gaming computer websites.
I am not sure I completely agree with Gnat on the population being all kids based on the high-end specs required to run it (I know Gnat didn't specifically say that but it seemed that might be implied) I think the gore and bobbies will bring in more children than the highend specs will exclude older folk.
It is true that computers today are only really being pushed to improve by mulitmedia editing and games, so kids might have the slight advantage in highend systems, but then again, the children are not able to purchase them, so they are being bought by adults and handed to children. That being said, in a few years when I have kids, the HELL they are going to have a better system than mom's uber gamin' rig!
I figure pwning them in their favorite game will bea great way to force them to do chores!
As for the computers themselves, when I left for college, I did the foolish -
{Put fingers in the cheeks} "Oh, I am not a computer person. I could never build a computer."
At that point I purchased two successive Gateways in a row. I paid over or around $3500 for each replacing the last one about every three years over my college career. Then I realized that it was only select components that needed to be changes as time moved along the path of Moore's law.
I built my first one from scratch about two years ago and now, when I am better able to make solid fiscal choices I just built another very highend one, specifically for gaming. This one will last a long time because I made good choices and will only have to replace a little here and a little there for a number of years. Buying Box-Computers costs way way way more for much much much less.
Rule #1 Never buy the very top of the line. It costs twice as much and has hardly any real difference. Find the top of the line and step backward by 6-months. You will have a part that is only a fraction different than the top of the line but will save around half the price.
Rule #2 Seed the rest of the gaming community with your old equipment. It helps everyone to keep the gaming world heading toward better and better machines. Don't box it away, give it to someone else so that can upgrade. Byt the time you would even open that box again, in a year or so, it will be worthless anyhow.
Rule #3 Computers are beginning to hit a little plateau (Moore's Law is expected to be broken within the year) There is a limit to what can be done without a huge paradigm shift in how a computer works at its basic level. Computers will have a small window of a few years while the shift happens. Then, regardless what system you have it will be completely obsolete. (And we are not even talking about Nano or quantum computers, just the change in the structure of cores of the existing ones.) Anyhow, now is a great time to begin upgrading your computer. It will be a solid investment for longer than it would have been a few years ago.
Computers made huge leaps forward in the last 2 years and Brobdingnagian leaps since 3 or 4 years ago. Go ahead and get a few new parts. Start with a Motherboard, chip and new case. Slowly build on what you have as that foundation and you will be so happy with what you can do for a few hundred dollars / few hours of work.
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
I agree with the concept the OP is trying to get across to some gamers. As the games progress into requiring more from PC's, the user will need to upgrade regularly. This is an unfortunate but inevitable part of being a gamer. Just as an example, there is the XBox, Wii and PS3 in the console world. Many console gamers bought these new systems because games were being designed to take full advantage of new technology.
Now, I don't have a ton of money to spend and upgrade every few months, but I do know that as a PC gamer that upgrading components is very important if I want to grow with the gaming world. I guess some hobbies are more expensive than others.
I always have a rule with buying upgraded parts for my PC, if it won't last at least 3 years it aint worth buying. So you only get to spend every 3 years and even the 3rd year games will be able to play if you get it right. It hasn't failed me yet but i need an upgrade soon for my comp.
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Yeah alot of people upgraded for Vanguard so I think they should that Vanguard that they got good enoug of a computer to run AoC.
EDIT: Sorry got a flashback and thougth you was talking about Vanguard. Meh, deja vu, it wasn't original 12 months ago and it isn't today. Sorry.
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I agree, I think most consumers go to Best Buy and buy dell's and hp's for $1000.00 that are not going to run these graphic intesne games. That $1000.00 could be used to build a really nice computer that could run AoC no problems at all. You can even get a very nice computer from online gaming computer websites.
I agree, I think most consumers go to Best Buy and buy dell's and hp's for $1000.00 that are not going to run these graphic intesne games. That $1000.00 could be used to build a really nice computer that could run AoC no problems at all. You can even get a very nice computer from online gaming computer websites.
I am not sure I completely agree with Gnat on the population being all kids based on the high-end specs required to run it (I know Gnat didn't specifically say that but it seemed that might be implied) I think the gore and bobbies will bring in more children than the highend specs will exclude older folk.
It is true that computers today are only really being pushed to improve by mulitmedia editing and games, so kids might have the slight advantage in highend systems, but then again, the children are not able to purchase them, so they are being bought by adults and handed to children. That being said, in a few years when I have kids, the HELL they are going to have a better system than mom's uber gamin' rig!
I figure pwning them in their favorite game will bea great way to force them to do chores!
As for the computers themselves, when I left for college, I did the foolish -
{Put fingers in the cheeks} "Oh, I am not a computer person. I could never build a computer."
At that point I purchased two successive Gateways in a row. I paid over or around $3500 for each replacing the last one about every three years over my college career. Then I realized that it was only select components that needed to be changes as time moved along the path of Moore's law.
I built my first one from scratch about two years ago and now, when I am better able to make solid fiscal choices I just built another very highend one, specifically for gaming. This one will last a long time because I made good choices and will only have to replace a little here and a little there for a number of years. Buying Box-Computers costs way way way more for much much much less.
Rule #1 Never buy the very top of the line. It costs twice as much and has hardly any real difference. Find the top of the line and step backward by 6-months. You will have a part that is only a fraction different than the top of the line but will save around half the price.
Rule #2 Seed the rest of the gaming community with your old equipment. It helps everyone to keep the gaming world heading toward better and better machines. Don't box it away, give it to someone else so that can upgrade. Byt the time you would even open that box again, in a year or so, it will be worthless anyhow.
Rule #3 Computers are beginning to hit a little plateau (Moore's Law is expected to be broken within the year) There is a limit to what can be done without a huge paradigm shift in how a computer works at its basic level. Computers will have a small window of a few years while the shift happens. Then, regardless what system you have it will be completely obsolete. (And we are not even talking about Nano or quantum computers, just the change in the structure of cores of the existing ones.) Anyhow, now is a great time to begin upgrading your computer. It will be a solid investment for longer than it would have been a few years ago.
Computers made huge leaps forward in the last 2 years and Brobdingnagian leaps since 3 or 4 years ago. Go ahead and get a few new parts. Start with a Motherboard, chip and new case. Slowly build on what you have as that foundation and you will be so happy with what you can do for a few hundred dollars / few hours of work.
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
I agree with the concept the OP is trying to get across to some gamers. As the games progress into requiring more from PC's, the user will need to upgrade regularly. This is an unfortunate but inevitable part of being a gamer. Just as an example, there is the XBox, Wii and PS3 in the console world. Many console gamers bought these new systems because games were being designed to take full advantage of new technology.
Now, I don't have a ton of money to spend and upgrade every few months, but I do know that as a PC gamer that upgrading components is very important if I want to grow with the gaming world. I guess some hobbies are more expensive than others.
I always have a rule with buying upgraded parts for my PC, if it won't last at least 3 years it aint worth buying. So you only get to spend every 3 years and even the 3rd year games will be able to play if you get it right. It hasn't failed me yet but i need an upgrade soon for my comp.