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Horrible Starting impressions

Posted this in a previous topic - but seemed more fitting for it to have it's own area for more specific and helpful answers.

 

Originally posted by blueturtle13


blue flashing screen and messed up graphics.....havent been able to play at all......I reduced the resolution to the lowest...(10xx by 7xx)

put game in windowed mode....still nothing.....



I have posted this problem about 6 times on the official forums and a couple of times here at mmorpg.com (where I won the beta key) also emailed tech@ageofconan.com twice and nothing....I have seen others with this problem no answers posted......

please help.....My drivers are up to date....every other game I have runs fine.....



amd +3500 2gigs ram 256mb x850xt



I know its an old system but low settings should be doable..it meets minimum....

I'm having the exact same problem - my flashes are black, not blue. I've searched far and wide for a solution for this, tried running windows - with all manner of resolutions. I'm not able to see any start up graphics/introductions and i can click the mouse till it reaches what i assume is the login screen. This then loads the nice snowy mountains in the background with some floating tree's and some spazzy blue expanding thing, i will post a picture - this is utterly unplayable.

I'm using the same graphics card as you are, Ati Radeon XT 850X 256mb - starting to wonder whether this is a graphics card issue.

AoC support forums are utterly useless as i can't log into them even after registering.

this here is what it all looks like after clicking past the black line crap.

Very Frustrating.

Comments

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183

    ah, yeah...it's a graphics card issue. Can I ask....WHICH drivers are you using?

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  • xxxkiller4xxxkiller4 Member Posts: 33

    mmm i tried with my un-updated driver (since whenever i last updated it) and after it being horrible at first i updated tooooo... well, the files called "8-5_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_63030" have no idea how to find the version number out - not too technically minded :)

  • ChannceChannce Member CommonPosts: 570

    I admitt that this game will give you the need to upgrade your computer, but man it is WORTH IT.

     

    EDIT: oops, forgot the question..that screen looks like a direct x problem, update that.

    When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.

  • xxxkiller4xxxkiller4 Member Posts: 33
    Originally posted by Channce


    I admitt that this game will give you the need to upgrade your computer, but man it is WORTH IT.

    My system is above the required level asked for - well above the minimum so in "theory" there shouldn't be a problem. I had the same problem with distortion on an older graphics card with the might and magic multiplayer - it was fixed with a patch eventually. Wondering if i'm going to have to wait for a hotfix/patch to fix this horrible issue.

    Edit: The directx should have been updated upon installation. + i've been running Dx9 without problems for quite a while, and dx10 isn't an option for my card. Have been thinking about buying a new graphics card - as i foresaw i would enjoy the game more if i had a decent fps rate at high/mid graphics levels.

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183

    Originally posted by xxxkiller4


    mmm i tried with my un-updated driver (since whenever i last updated it) and after it being horrible at first i updated tooooo... well, the files called "8-5_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_63030" have no idea how to find the version number out - not too technically minded :)
    ok, so you've basically just told me that you are NOT using the hotfix driver.

    http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31542

     

    remember to use a program like drivercleaner to get rid of any old lingering driver componantes after un-installing.

    I'm ASSUMING that the 8.5's have the same problem that has lingered in the last few Catalyst builds. This hotfix version is for the 8.4's....I'll check out what's being said about these new 8.5's and see if there is an issue with them, and if there's a hotfix for them yet if there is.

     

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  • xxxkiller4xxxkiller4 Member Posts: 33
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul


     
    Originally posted by xxxkiller4


    mmm i tried with my un-updated driver (since whenever i last updated it) and after it being horrible at first i updated tooooo... well, the files called "8-5_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_63030" have no idea how to find the version number out - not too technically minded :)
    ok, so you've basically just told me that you are NOT using the hotfix driver.

     

    http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31542

     

    remember to use a program like drivercleaner to get rid of any old lingering driver componantes after un-installing.

    I'm ASSUMING that the 8.5's have the same problem that has lingered in the last few Catalyst builds. This hotfix version is for the 8.4's....I'll check out what's being said about these new 8.5's and see if there is an issue with them, and if there's a hotfix for them yet if there is.

     

    that hotfix seems to be only for the AGP cards - i should have mentioned my card is PCI-E

  • ChannceChannce Member CommonPosts: 570
    Originally posted by xxxkiller4

    Originally posted by Channce


    I admitt that this game will give you the need to upgrade your computer, but man it is WORTH IT.

    My system is above the required level asked for - well above the minimum so in "theory" there shouldn't be a problem. I had the same problem with distortion on an older graphics card with the might and magic multiplayer - it was fixed with a patch eventually. Wondering if i'm going to have to wait for a hotfix/patch to fix this horrible issue.

    Edit: The directx should have been updated upon installation. + i've been running Dx9 without problems for quite a while, and dx10 isn't an option for my card. Have been thinking about buying a new graphics card - as i foresaw i would enjoy the game more if i had a decent fps rate at high/mid graphics levels.

    I understand, but direct x has some tweaks that can be made, could be one of these you need to do with the hardware you have.  One I have seen that causes this is the sound in direct x.  change that one notch down and it could work.

    When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.

  • jippyukjippyuk Member UncommonPosts: 95

    Hi there, nothing to do with drivers

    To do with the fact the game starts with shader version 3, your card only does 2. See my last post, describes how to fix this issue! :) enjoy.

     

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/181321

     *copied from post*

     

    Go to C: documents and settings/user/local settings/application data/funcom/conan/prefs

    (You must enable "view system files" under folder settings to see the path)



    You will see one or two xml files named prefs_1, prefs_2. Open these files in notepad and search for



    "RenderSetting_ShaderModel" you should see the following:



    "RenderSetting_ShaderModel" value="2" (2 may be replaced by -1 on some older x800 cards)



    change the value so you end up with ..... "RenderSetting_ShaderModel" value="0" in both files and save.

     

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  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183
    Originally posted by xxxkiller4

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul


     
    Originally posted by xxxkiller4


    mmm i tried with my un-updated driver (since whenever i last updated it) and after it being horrible at first i updated tooooo... well, the files called "8-5_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_63030" have no idea how to find the version number out - not too technically minded :)
    ok, so you've basically just told me that you are NOT using the hotfix driver.

     

    http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31542

     

    remember to use a program like drivercleaner to get rid of any old lingering driver componantes after un-installing.

    I'm ASSUMING that the 8.5's have the same problem that has lingered in the last few Catalyst builds. This hotfix version is for the 8.4's....I'll check out what's being said about these new 8.5's and see if there is an issue with them, and if there's a hotfix for them yet if there is.

     

    that hotfix seems to be only for the AGP cards - i should have mentioned my card is PCI-E

    ah, well..that's what I get for assuming, eh? Sorry about that....guess I should wait to post until AFTER my first cup of coffee in the morning

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  • xxxkiller4xxxkiller4 Member Posts: 33
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    Originally posted by xxxkiller4

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul


     
    Originally posted by xxxkiller4


    mmm i tried with my un-updated driver (since whenever i last updated it) and after it being horrible at first i updated tooooo... well, the files called "8-5_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_63030" have no idea how to find the version number out - not too technically minded :)
    ok, so you've basically just told me that you are NOT using the hotfix driver.

     

    http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31542

     

    remember to use a program like drivercleaner to get rid of any old lingering driver componantes after un-installing.

    I'm ASSUMING that the 8.5's have the same problem that has lingered in the last few Catalyst builds. This hotfix version is for the 8.4's....I'll check out what's being said about these new 8.5's and see if there is an issue with them, and if there's a hotfix for them yet if there is.

     

    that hotfix seems to be only for the AGP cards - i should have mentioned my card is PCI-E

    ah, well..that's what I get for assuming, eh? Sorry about that....guess I should wait to post until AFTER my first cup of coffee in the morning

    heh sorry ;) thanks for your suggestions. At least i know this seems to be graphics card related now. All the more reason for me to buy a higher end card to match the rest of my system. I just seem to run into problems with every card i get

  • ChannceChannce Member CommonPosts: 570

    Originally posted by jippyuk


    Hi there, nothing to do with drivers
    To do with the fact the game starts with shader version 3, your card only does 2. See my last post, describes how to fix this issue! :) enjoy.
     
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/181321
     
     

    Agree, this is a likely solution.

    When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.

  • xxxkiller4xxxkiller4 Member Posts: 33
    Originally posted by jippyuk


    Hi there, nothing to do with drivers
    To do with the fact the game starts with shader version 3, your card only does 2. See my last post, describes how to fix this issue! :) enjoy.
     
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/181321
     *copied from post*
     
    Go to C: documents and settings/user/local settings/application data/funcom/conan/prefs

    (You must enable "view system files" under folder settings to see the path)



    You will see one or two xml files named prefs_1, prefs_2. Open these files in notepad and search for



    "RenderSetting_ShaderModel" you should see the following:



    "RenderSetting_ShaderModel" value="2" (2 may be replaced by -1 on some older x800 cards)



    change the value so you end up with ..... "RenderSetting_ShaderModel" value="0" in both files and save.

     

     
     
    eurgh - it seems that those folders don't exist on my xp :S my local settings has dissapeared

     

  • xxxkiller4xxxkiller4 Member Posts: 33

    Ehhh i'll try resolving this after work

  • impulsebooksimpulsebooks Member Posts: 561

    Originally posted by xxxkiller4

     
    eurgh - it seems that those folders don't exist on my xp :S my local settings has dissapeared

     

     

    You probably have the "hide system files" option ticked.

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  • DownsyDownsy Member Posts: 55

    On the flip side, here's to the helpful smart guys!

    *claps*

     

    Well done!

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,087

    Originally posted by Downsy


    On the flip side, here's to the helpful smart guys!
    *claps*
     
    Well done!

    Agreed, several folks did a great job stepping up and offering suggestions.... good work.

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  • jippyukjippyuk Member UncommonPosts: 95

    Okay so I got your PM and thought I'd post a message here just incase anyone else is struggling to find these options too :)

     

    When you are in my computer or explorer. (assuming XP, vista is a slightly diff)



    Click Tools at top

    Folder Options

    View Tab

    Make Sure that Show hidden files is ticked and that Hide Protected Operating System Files is UNTICKED

    Apply and OK

     

    Should now find the folder you search for ;)

     

    GL.

    JP

    P.S If anyone tries this game and says feckit its poop or something and have that month of trial, would love to see how it plays before I buy.

     

     

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  • SpellshaperSpellshaper Member UncommonPosts: 419

    As jippyuk already said, its problem with shader model. At least in these begining stages of release is better to read sticky topics on official forums. This one is from Known Issues:
    and solution again:

    ATI9800, x800 and x850 series Issues

    The above mentioned graphic cards only support Shader Model 2.0 and systems running the game on these cards with default settings might experience symptoms like flickering black screen and shaky rendering.

    This issue can be fixed like this:

    1) Start the game. When you hear the music starting, a prefs file has been written and you can edit it (in Notepad for example).

    2) To find this, you must go to control panel->folder options->view->turn on see hidden files and folders.

    3) It is found at the following location on your PC
    VISTA: C:Users[user name]AppDataLocalFuncomConanPrefsprefs_2.xml
    XP: c:documents and settings[user name]Local SettingsApplication DataFuncomPrefsprefs_2.xml

    4) Edit the line called <Value name="RenderSetting_ShaderModel" value="1" />

    5) It should read <Value name="RenderSetting_ShaderModel" value="0" />

    6) Issue should be fixed then.

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  • xxxkiller4xxxkiller4 Member Posts: 33

    Okay  - i'm giving it a go now. Thanks very much for your help , it's much appreciated. WIll update on the situation a min :)

  • MasterPain55MasterPain55 Member Posts: 257

     


    That light blue image you see is what is called a "Artifact", it's usually the first sign of a dieing video card. search on google for video card artifacts and you will see similar cases.


    Very Frustrating.

     

  • xxxkiller4xxxkiller4 Member Posts: 33

    Yay it works :D just got to figure out why it thinks i don't have an account even after registering now ;)

  • jippyukjippyuk Member UncommonPosts: 95

    Glad we got it resolved for you. Enjoy! :)

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