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World is just as instanced past level 20 as it was before
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I'm standing in Instance "Thor" of the Wildands right now, alongside instance "Nu" and "Balder", there were a dozen last night, but it's early morning now. Open world in AoC is a lie. It's like a counterstrike lobby. The world is devoid of any consistency, double click on a boat and zone into another random instance.
I was spurred on by the promises that everything gets better past the first few levels, I find that these are simpy lies. The game is a mangled, buggy mess of instances and zones, but I won't go into the myriad of bugs - I'm quite tolerant of such things in a new MMO. My issue is with how the game is designed from the ground up.
The really disappointing thing is how this affects PvP, you really don't have to worry at all about pissing someone off because you can easily change instances at any moment. This also allows insta-travel back to the zone in, among other things.
Do not believe what people are telling you, the game doesn't suddenly become "open" at higher levels.
I will finish by relating my experience with PvP. A guy was being a moron over [OOC], announcing whenever he was ganking someone. Several people started to get irked and threaten him. This is a PvP server, you act like an asshole, expect to get ganked.
Some of us decided to go find him and chop off his head or whatever.
We searched and searched, but in the end it was fruitless, he was in another instance. He taunted us, and said that if we ganged up on him and found him, he would simply swap instances as soon as we approached, and he could continue spamming crap in OOC for all of us to see.
If I were Conan I'd order this game destroyed. 5 years they took to build this... it's Vanguard 2.0... only instead of anything resembling progress, gone is the seamless world, replaced with arbitrary instances and piss-poor game design.
Failed.
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Guess its back to wow for you?
At least Vanguard has VAST OPEN WORLD ...
I think it is WoW 2.0 down to the minutest details only they have added a Conan skin...
edit: and the gameworld is smaller and instanced as they couldnt be bother to make big zones...
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This is a very usual technique in new MMOS, to say certain flaws get better at higher levels, to keep people playing. Carrot in the stick.
The game I play after this one isn't the issue here, it's the people here who are being more than a little dishonest regarding the state of the game later on.
I fully expect immature "go back to WoW noob" posts, I just wasn't expecting one in the first minute
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OP, you are full of it. Period.
I played from 20th to 29th never once instancing. Not once.
Did you even play this game? Are you so ego-linked to some old outdated game that your fragile self esteem forces you to attack anything that threatens the old outdated, ancient games?
Just wondering what your real motive is here.
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At least Vanguard has VAST OPEN WORLD ...
I think it is WoW 2.0 down to the minutest details only they have added a Conan skin...
edit: and the gameworld is smaller and instanced as they couldnt be bother to make big zones...
It's closer to Vanguard than it is to WoW. But I rather think it's Everquest 2 in a Conan skin - It's a better skin, for sure - the setting and lore are brilliant. Would have made a great single-player game.
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Someone got pissed off by a ganker......this is groundbreaking news, thanks for that. Because you couldn't find someone who was ticking you off you 'order the game destroyed'. Give me a break, take your meds please.
your avatar quote and your forum history posts kinda gave it away.
Er. Yes I play this game. Click on the triangle to the left of your mini-map and see how many instances you're in.
Be prepared for a little shock.
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give it a couple months and they will increase the population numbers of each instance, do you really think it will be like this forever?
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Care to elaborate?
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Yes, once everyone reaches level 80 - it really will be like this forever.
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Nope, it's just the typical crap thread that comes from someone on a PvP server. Hotheads, egomanics and morons galore. And while I'm not putting the OP yet in any of those catagories...umm it's a FFA PvP server. There are mechanics in the game that aren't 'perfect' but hey it is what it is, if you can't stand someone PvPing knowing they may get away then they might as well quit the game now before they get a heart attack.
you just sound like a bitter WoW fanboy thats getting owned by a mean ganker.
Nope, it's just the typical crap thread that comes from someone on a PvP server. Hotheads, egomanics and morons galore. And while I'm not putting the OP yet in any of those catagories...umm it's a FFA PvP server. There are mechanics in the game that aren't 'perfect' but hey it is what it is, if you can't stand someone PvPing knowing they may get away then they might as well quit the game now before they get a heart attack.
On the contrary, I fully expect people to be able to escape from combat. But to vanish into thin air, to go into a different 'reality' where the person you're avoiding does not exist? It's exactly the same as Counterstrike.
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Yes, once everyone reaches level 80 - it really will be like this forever.
lol funny how you say how it will be when you have no proof or reason. With time comes bug fixes and performance increases. Go back to your old game and QQ more about how you got pwned in pvp and couldnt make a character on a server you can handle or enjoy. Your talking out of your ass now.
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Nope, it's just the typical crap thread that comes from someone on a PvP server. Hotheads, egomanics and morons galore. And while I'm not putting the OP yet in any of those catagories...umm it's a FFA PvP server. There are mechanics in the game that aren't 'perfect' but hey it is what it is, if you can't stand someone PvPing knowing they may get away then they might as well quit the game now before they get a heart attack.
On the contrary, I fully expect people to be able to escape from combat. But to vanish into thin air, to go into a different 'reality' where the person you're avoiding does not exist? It's exactly the same as Counterstrike.
And this isn't possible to do in WoW(your avatar first love lol)....nothing like this ever happened there? Why didn't you call for the death of WoW?
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Nope, it's just the typical crap thread that comes from someone on a PvP server. Hotheads, egomanics and morons galore. And while I'm not putting the OP yet in any of those catagories...umm it's a FFA PvP server. There are mechanics in the game that aren't 'perfect' but hey it is what it is, if you can't stand someone PvPing knowing they may get away then they might as well quit the game now before they get a heart attack.
On the contrary, I fully expect people to be able to escape from combat. But to vanish into thin air, to go into a different 'reality' where the person you're avoiding does not exist? It's exactly the same as Counterstrike.
And this isn't possible to do in WoW(your avatar first love lol)....nothing like this ever happened there? Why didn't you call for the death of WoW?
No, it isn't possible to do in WoW. If you're getting ganked farming Primals in Outland, then you either fight back or you do something else.
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Nope, it's just the typical crap thread that comes from someone on a PvP server. Hotheads, egomanics and morons galore. And while I'm not putting the OP yet in any of those catagories...umm it's a FFA PvP server. There are mechanics in the game that aren't 'perfect' but hey it is what it is, if you can't stand someone PvPing knowing they may get away then they might as well quit the game now before they get a heart attack.
On the contrary, I fully expect people to be able to escape from combat. But to vanish into thin air, to go into a different 'reality' where the person you're avoiding does not exist? It's exactly the same as Counterstrike.
And this isn't possible to do in WoW(your avatar first love lol)....nothing like this ever happened there? Why didn't you call for the death of WoW?
No, it isn't possible to do in WoW. If you're getting ganked farming Primals in Outland, then you either fight back or you do something else.
Incorrect.
Btw, comparing AoC to Counterstrike is well.....inaccurate to say the least. I'm done here, by all means quit the game. One less hotheaded PvPer whining on the AoC or these forums, your post was neither objective or constructive. Good day.
Yes, once everyone reaches level 80 - it really will be like this forever.
lol funny how you say how it will be when you have no proof or reason. With time comes bug fixes and performance increases. Go back to your old game and QQ more about how you got pwned in pvp and couldnt make a character on a server you can handle or enjoy. Your talking out of your ass now.
I'm not faulting the game for it's bugs, I'm faulting the game for it's very flawed design. Once all of these people level up, and the population hits the end game, how do you think the game will handle instancing differently?
Please stop trying to claim I got owned in PvP and QQ etc, it's really immature.
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Nope, it's just the typical crap thread that comes from someone on a PvP server. Hotheads, egomanics and morons galore. And while I'm not putting the OP yet in any of those catagories...umm it's a FFA PvP server. There are mechanics in the game that aren't 'perfect' but hey it is what it is, if you can't stand someone PvPing knowing they may get away then they might as well quit the game now before they get a heart attack.
On the contrary, I fully expect people to be able to escape from combat. But to vanish into thin air, to go into a different 'reality' where the person you're avoiding does not exist? It's exactly the same as Counterstrike.
And this isn't possible to do in WoW(your avatar first love lol)....nothing like this ever happened there? Why didn't you call for the death of WoW?
No, it isn't possible to do in WoW. If you're getting ganked farming Primals in Outland, then you either fight back or you do something else.
Incorrect.
Btw, comparing AoC to Counterstrike is well.....inaccurate to say the least. I'm done here, by all means quit the game. One less hotheaded PvPer whining on the AoC or these forums, your post was neither objective or constructive. Good day.
Simply saying "incorrect" and providing no reason why does not make it so, I am sorry.
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People simply say "incorrect". "You're lying!" "You're a fanboy!" "Go back to WoW"
Are these really the fact's you are talking about? I didn't think so, and neither do you if you're honest about it.
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Yes, once everyone reaches level 80 - it really will be like this forever.
lol funny how you say how it will be when you have no proof or reason. With time comes bug fixes and performance increases. Go back to your old game and QQ more about how you got pwned in pvp and couldnt make a character on a server you can handle or enjoy. Your talking out of your ass now.
I'm not faulting the game for it's bugs, I'm faulting the game for it's very flawed design. Once all of these people level up, and the population hits the end game, how do you think the game will handle instancing differently?
Please stop trying to claim I got owned in PvP and QQ etc, it's really immature.
it will handle it the only logical way, by increasing the population per instance. And you are the one who played on the pvp server, lol its pretty hypocritical to be calling somebody else immature. And again you have no proof or anything to compare AoC to. Also bugs and performance fixes will help the game's "flawed design" later on. People complained about spawn/zone camping and less then a week later FC introduces a 20 second invulnerability buff for when you zone/spawn, This proves they are capable of fixing what is flawed. Move along troll, and wait another 25 days then make your review.
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These numbers are in no way meant to be accurate. They are here to explain my example.
* 2 servers with 2000 people logged on to each.
* 1 server with 4 000 people logged on to it.
This would mean that you actually have more people to interact with in the end, wouldn't it. Ok they could be in different instances in some occations. But it will also mean the chance that when you move to an area that only have one instance have more people in it, even in the future.
And with revenge on the ganker. You actually believe he'd be availble for revenge, when the heat was big enough even if there was only one instance to switch to. The are alot of more options to evade revenge then just switching instances. A different instance is not a different server and that also means that you will be interacting with the same people in the end.
So the ganker will get his reputation anyway, despite the instances.
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