Age of Conan have been delayed like 5-7 times now and is still in a state of Beta, even when released.
I'm failing to see the relevance of AoC being delayed and what the poster was talking about.
I'm merely stating that if you think your going to play WAR this year your wrong.
We will see.. maybe yes and maybe not.. but well.. tomorrow I have free day.. and I have choice for this night.. playing full AoC and leveling up my toon or testing war focused beta test where my toon will be wiped soon.. Too bad that testing game in beta is much more fun than playing full release..
But well.. I am not going to jump on bandwagon and say AoC is crap, i canceled my subscription or something..It can be good game.. it has potential..And I want see how devs will continue with AoC development but for now. .game is still in beta.. and WAR beta > AoC "beta" .. which don't seem right when AoC is already released..right?
WAR has had the whole world remade twice now, what makes you think it wont go thru another they are not even allowing beta tests but for 2 days every couple weeks. I would be entirely amazed if it comes out before may next year. I only say this because EA Mythic guarantees the game will be flawless once its released and that only because of how bad of a release EA had with Hellgate: London. Should EA screw up the release of warhammer you would never see another attempt at an MMO from them ( which might be a good thing).
Originally posted by Douhk
I'd say cancel now... you obviously appear to dislike the game, as you're only pointing to the games flaws (which all games have). So why would you continue to play it if it isn't fun for you? I'm having a blast myself, but I feel that if you don't like a game, why play it? People are always going to have different opinions on anything, in this case entertainment, and if you don't like it, wait for WAR or feel free to go back to whichever game you used to play... though I'm not sure how much more you will like WAR over AoC... MMORPGs really don't have vast differences from one another other than the basic design and layout. The only differences in WAR will be less graphics, more class choices, less instancing, more ganking, and many other minor things you can look at as flaws or high points. Hope you find something, though.
As a beta tester for WAR I don't know where you guys get your info, but the highlighted areas above are flat out wrong. No need to post misinformation about a game in developement just because he does not like AoC and mentioned WAR. I enjoy both games currently and plan to continue with both. They each have their highs and lows. They really do appeal to different tastes.
Cheers!
Ugh... not trying to be rude or anything but it really does annoy me when people argue against something with little to no information as to why... they just say "No, you are wrong".
From what I've seen, at least from the stand-point of what I said, not too sure about lys, ganking is going to be worse than AoC's condition at the current moment, which in itself is at least fixable for this game. I didn't really want to back up my claims and I don't intend to (mostly for the fact that I shouldn't even be giving this information that I know about WAR more than it's beta testers for specific reasons) because I wasn't attempting to argue against WAR or the OP's decisions. I was just stating my beliefs that, at least the way I look at it, you shouldn't be playing a game just because everyone else seems to be enjoying it if you're not, because whats the point of playing then?
The little comment you highlighted from me is very short to what I was saying and you obviously didn't read my entire post. Please don't use examples unexplanitorily from people that obviously don't want to get involved in a completely different arguement.
God you're a horrible troll. If you're going to try and troll, please do some reading before making it obvious that you're a giant ass.
Ganking will not be worse because they will turn higher level players into chickens if they try to enter the lower tier RvRs and only can a higher lvl attack a lower lvl in the world if the lower lvl flags itself for PvP which would be its own damn fault.
WAR has had the whole world remade twice now, what makes you think it wont go thru another they are not even allowing beta tests but for 2 days every couple weeks. I would be entirely amazed if it comes out before may next year. I only say this because EA Mythic guarantees the game will be flawless once its released and that only because of how bad of a release EA had with Hellgate: London. Should EA screw up the release of warhammer you would never see another attempt at an MMO from them ( which might be a good thing).
Originally posted by Douhk
I'd say cancel now... you obviously appear to dislike the game, as you're only pointing to the games flaws (which all games have). So why would you continue to play it if it isn't fun for you? I'm having a blast myself, but I feel that if you don't like a game, why play it? People are always going to have different opinions on anything, in this case entertainment, and if you don't like it, wait for WAR or feel free to go back to whichever game you used to play... though I'm not sure how much more you will like WAR over AoC... MMORPGs really don't have vast differences from one another other than the basic design and layout. The only differences in WAR will be less graphics, more class choices, less instancing, more ganking, and many other minor things you can look at as flaws or high points. Hope you find something, though.
As a beta tester for WAR I don't know where you guys get your info, but the highlighted areas above are flat out wrong. No need to post misinformation about a game in developement just because he does not like AoC and mentioned WAR. I enjoy both games currently and plan to continue with both. They each have their highs and lows. They really do appeal to different tastes.
Cheers!
Are u serious?? U actually enjoy WAR right now? Dude, If you were in Beta, "which I doubt" then you would be singing a different tune. Right now, WAR is doind PVP testing which starts at level 40. All your doing is zoning in a pvp batlefield and fighting other people. Once u die, "which takes about 5 minutes" you rinse and repeat. U call that fun?? LOL. So umm ya, once again, if u were in beta for WAR, u wouldn't state how much fun your having....Cause anyone who thinks testing a minor part of that game is fun must get their head examined,,that or u are easily entertained by things that go booom, or uuuggghhh, lol
I am in beta and i m having a blast because i realize it s FOCUS testing whinch means they test certain things at a time if you didn t know. Damn why is it that hard to realize i or anyone else couldn t have fun testing aspects of a game. You re very blind.
Oakthornn, you're making yourself look pretty dumb. I'm jealous of all the people who got in WAR beta...man. I just want a little taste and I wanna help it be the best
Wish I never posted that first responce post.. I haven't logged into WAR for over a month until a few days ago, and you can now test tier 1-3. Thats all I'll say,,,, DONT WANT TO BREAK THE NDA WITH GIVING OUT MORE INFO" but it's more enjoyable than it was a couple months ago. At least now u can start a character out at level 1 and get it to 30.
Although, don't get to excited over WAR being everyone's savior game. Thats all I'll say. As of now, I'm pretty disappointed with certain aspects of the game, and its direction. But there are some things I do enjoy. Damn, ok thats all i'm gonna say.. Dont want to get my account suspended.
Rallithon Oakthornn (Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
This game is getting boring very fast. The only entertainment at lvl37 is ganking people in towns. There are no interactions with other players. You feel all alone for the most part. Quests turn into a chore(a lot of them are broken also). Dungeons are so linear, you just zerg them without any strategy. Wait time for pvp minigames are 5-10min+. But when you finally get in, you will get steam rolled by a organized guild. And I'm not even frustrated with the game. I'm a bear shaman and i do very well in pvp. It is just becoming too boring. No sense of community so to speak. And oh yea, the instances inside other instances thing. Or should i cancel right now? After the first month?
Lets see, you find ganking people fun, and you wonder why people don't want to interact with you other then perhaps to kill you back?
You have no guild (maybe because you've been ganking so much no one wants you?) So you can't get a group to do the instances on epic, and its kinda hard to really do much strategy solo. Also generally speaking in my experience PUGs tend to always zerg because they are very tempory groups out just to finish the quests the indivigual has, over any real team work.
Yet you expect this all to somehow change in WAR? I may very well be wrong but somehow I'm guessing the problem is more you and less the game. Yes i guess AoC could try to cater more to the solo ganker crowd, but I won't complain if they focus on other issues instead right now. WAR will have the exact same kind of complainers when it comes out. Better luck there thogh
LOL, well, perhaps if you didn't sit outside of town ganking people you might have made some friends. People tend to not interact with gankers, they avoid or kill them instead. Same with your issues of getting steamrolled by an organized guild group, perhaps you could consider joining a guild and becoming part of the fun? Well, too late now, guess you cancelled, but I don't think WAR will be much more fun for you unless you learn to interact more with the game world.
This game is getting boring very fast. The only entertainment at lvl37 is ganking people in towns. There are no interactions with other players. You feel all alone for the most part. Quests turn into a chore(a lot of them are broken also). Dungeons are so linear, you just zerg them without any strategy. Wait time for pvp minigames are 5-10min+. But when you finally get in, you will get steam rolled by a organized guild. And I'm not even frustrated with the game. I'm a bear shaman and i do very well in pvp. It is just becoming too boring. No sense of community so to speak. And oh yea, the instances inside other instances thing. Or should i cancel right now? After the first month?
I 100% agree with the getting bored part...i'm only 26 and it seems like we can't experiance crap until we are 40. There is no goal. At 26 i'm still wearing level 10 gear thats better than the level 26 gear and it doesn't degrade as I level. So gear is nothing to look forward too. So what exactly is there to look forward to if you can't make your guy look bad ass? Killing Vanier over and over until you hit 40 to do the first real dungeon?
Lol, someone who thought they would max out in a couple days?
If yer at level 26, and still wearing level 10 gear, you got a problem. No, it's not the game's fault, it's your fault.
The level cap is 80. You will not see and do everything in the game by level 26... lol. MMOs are designed to be played over time, not zerged in 2-3 days.
Infact, I'm editing this post. I don't think I'll be giving WAR a shot. It'll be the same old thing or worse.
They'll probably be better than Funcom was with customer service and player account policies, because Funcom set the record for a new low with their 20-hour petition lines and blanket-bans, but other than that, WAR will still just be 99% treadmill, 1% mind-blowing moments.
Ha i canceled my WAR preorder at the same time as I canceled my aoc account.
Enough is enough with these lame tard games. Unless someone comes out with something truly epic, a real worldy alternate reality universe to play in, screw them, they arent getting my money anymore. They forgot how to create good games and now just dump out trashy clones that cater to the lowest common denominator.
ehhh... dont u mean 4-5 months? O_O comes out in october , and WAR will pwn AoC, it may not have the big flash graphics that AoC has (which you will more than likely have to spend $500+ to upgrade ur pc to run it well) but it has ALOT more story , its alot more fun to play, better classes , not linear and isnt based on instances.. Watch when WAR comes out , AoC will lose half their players..maybe more..
Originally posted by Turdinator: Wow. So many great points made in that post. You are a fine addition to the Athiest movement my good man. Keep up the good work and post as often as you like. It sounds like you have important/intelligent things to say.
There is no ganking in WAR, the game is centered around factional warfare. There can't be ganking. Most zones are faction against faction and you get xp for killing other players, but there are also tons of pve content.
It is quite a different setup. AoC = WoW. WAR doesnt not resemble WoW in gameplay.
AoC is just another raid infested, battlegrounded bland mmo with nothing but pretty graphics. WAR has at least some innovative features and a different gameplay.
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Originally posted by Draccan
People talking about ganking in WAR are ignorant. There is no ganking in WAR, the game is centered around factional warfare. There can't be ganking. Most zones are faction against faction and you get xp for killing other players, but there are also tons of pve content. It is quite a different setup. AoC = WoW. WAR doesnt not resemble WoW in gameplay. AoC is just another raid infested, battlegrounded bland mmo with nothing but pretty graphics. WAR has at least some innovative features and a different gameplay.
Please dont get me started...
Take all the war talk over to the war forums, otherwise people are just going to get pissed off.
I have reached 60 yesterday and all I can say is: playing 1-40 was a blast, after that you really notice how crude the game really is. I am not talking about the grind/lack of quests but broken/missing features, itemization and the like. For now for a new mmo starved gamer like me AoC does fill the bill, but Funcom will have to introduce a lot of bug fixes and other optimization if they wish to keep my subscription in the long run.
Will WAR be the better at launch? Who knows, we will see once it comes out.
People talking about ganking in WAR are ignorant. There is no ganking in WAR, the game is centered around factional warfare. There can't be ganking. Most zones are faction against faction and you get xp for killing other players, but there are also tons of pve content. It is quite a different setup. AoC = WoW. WAR doesnt not resemble WoW in gameplay. AoC is just another raid infested, battlegrounded bland mmo with nothing but pretty graphics. WAR has at least some innovative features and a different gameplay.
Please dont get me started...
Take all the war talk over to the war forums, otherwise people are just going to get pissed off.
You really are amazing, aren't you? I mean you write this to me and not to the ones who brought it up?
Tell this to the aoc fanbois who attack WAR out of frustration over the failures of AoC..
We know right now people are feeling like all armor in Age of Conan is the same and brown. I assure you this is not the case, for along time now we have had a "GM area" where we spawned lots of NPC's that had all sorts of armor appearances so we could tell when art was completed. We have one of these for armor, weapons, and social clothing. Hundreds upon hundreds of appearances.
Anyway to cut to the chase I took your guys concerns and shot an email to Ole Herbjornsen our Lead Designer to ask about Itemization. Ole came back with some very encouraging news. They are going to put blue loot on bosses in the outdoor playfields now and not only on bosses in instances. In addition 3 sets of epic armours for each class (for a total of 36) will allow the item designers to move more of the unique stuff down to lower tiers and over from purple and blue towards green.
The gfx artists will also produce a lot of extra weapons which will further increase the visual variety. He expects these things to be coming into the game within the next week or two.
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I'm merely stating that if you think your going to play WAR this year your wrong.
I'm merely stating that if you think your going to play WAR this year your wrong.
We will see.. maybe yes and maybe not.. but well.. tomorrow I have free day.. and I have choice for this night.. playing full AoC and leveling up my toon or testing war focused beta test where my toon will be wiped soon.. Too bad that testing game in beta is much more fun than playing full release..
But well.. I am not going to jump on bandwagon and say AoC is crap, i canceled my subscription or something..It can be good game.. it has potential..And I want see how devs will continue with AoC development but for now. .game is still in beta.. and WAR beta > AoC "beta" .. which don't seem right when AoC is already released..right?
As a beta tester for WAR I don't know where you guys get your info, but the highlighted areas above are flat out wrong. No need to post misinformation about a game in developement just because he does not like AoC and mentioned WAR. I enjoy both games currently and plan to continue with both. They each have their highs and lows. They really do appeal to different tastes.Cheers!
Ugh... not trying to be rude or anything but it really does annoy me when people argue against something with little to no information as to why... they just say "No, you are wrong".
From what I've seen, at least from the stand-point of what I said, not too sure about lys, ganking is going to be worse than AoC's condition at the current moment, which in itself is at least fixable for this game. I didn't really want to back up my claims and I don't intend to (mostly for the fact that I shouldn't even be giving this information that I know about WAR more than it's beta testers for specific reasons) because I wasn't attempting to argue against WAR or the OP's decisions. I was just stating my beliefs that, at least the way I look at it, you shouldn't be playing a game just because everyone else seems to be enjoying it if you're not, because whats the point of playing then?
The little comment you highlighted from me is very short to what I was saying and you obviously didn't read my entire post. Please don't use examples unexplanitorily from people that obviously don't want to get involved in a completely different arguement.
God you're a horrible troll. If you're going to try and troll, please do some reading before making it obvious that you're a giant ass.
Ganking will not be worse because they will turn higher level players into chickens if they try to enter the lower tier RvRs and only can a higher lvl attack a lower lvl in the world if the lower lvl flags itself for PvP which would be its own damn fault.
Way to get every one of your words discredited.
Please shut up now.
Cheers!
Are u serious?? U actually enjoy WAR right now? Dude, If you were in Beta, "which I doubt" then you would be singing a different tune. Right now, WAR is doind PVP testing which starts at level 40. All your doing is zoning in a pvp batlefield and fighting other people. Once u die, "which takes about 5 minutes" you rinse and repeat. U call that fun?? LOL. So umm ya, once again, if u were in beta for WAR, u wouldn't state how much fun your having....Cause anyone who thinks testing a minor part of that game is fun must get their head examined,,that or u are easily entertained by things that go booom, or uuuggghhh, lol
I am in beta and i m having a blast because i realize it s FOCUS testing whinch means they test certain things at a time if you didn t know. Damn why is it that hard to realize i or anyone else couldn t have fun testing aspects of a game. You re very blind.
Oakthornn, you're making yourself look pretty dumb. I'm jealous of all the people who got in WAR beta...man. I just want a little taste and I wanna help it be the best
Wish I never posted that first responce post.. I haven't logged into WAR for over a month until a few days ago, and you can now test tier 1-3. Thats all I'll say,,,, DONT WANT TO BREAK THE NDA WITH GIVING OUT MORE INFO" but it's more enjoyable than it was a couple months ago. At least now u can start a character out at level 1 and get it to 30.
Although, don't get to excited over WAR being everyone's savior game. Thats all I'll say. As of now, I'm pretty disappointed with certain aspects of the game, and its direction. But there are some things I do enjoy. Damn, ok thats all i'm gonna say.. Dont want to get my account suspended.
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
Lets see, you find ganking people fun, and you wonder why people don't want to interact with you other then perhaps to kill you back?
You have no guild (maybe because you've been ganking so much no one wants you?) So you can't get a group to do the instances on epic, and its kinda hard to really do much strategy solo. Also generally speaking in my experience PUGs tend to always zerg because they are very tempory groups out just to finish the quests the indivigual has, over any real team work.
Yet you expect this all to somehow change in WAR? I may very well be wrong but somehow I'm guessing the problem is more you and less the game. Yes i guess AoC could try to cater more to the solo ganker crowd, but I won't complain if they focus on other issues instead right now. WAR will have the exact same kind of complainers when it comes out. Better luck there thogh
Lol, someone who thought they would max out in a couple days?
If yer at level 26, and still wearing level 10 gear, you got a problem. No, it's not the game's fault, it's your fault.
The level cap is 80. You will not see and do everything in the game by level 26... lol. MMOs are designed to be played over time, not zerged in 2-3 days.
Infact, I'm editing this post. I don't think I'll be giving WAR a shot. It'll be the same old thing or worse.
They'll probably be better than Funcom was with customer service and player account policies, because Funcom set the record for a new low with their 20-hour petition lines and blanket-bans, but other than that, WAR will still just be 99% treadmill, 1% mind-blowing moments.
Ha i canceled my WAR preorder at the same time as I canceled my aoc account.
Enough is enough with these lame tard games. Unless someone comes out with something truly epic, a real worldy alternate reality universe to play in, screw them, they arent getting my money anymore. They forgot how to create good games and now just dump out trashy clones that cater to the lowest common denominator.
ehhh... dont u mean 4-5 months? O_O comes out in october , and WAR will pwn AoC, it may not have the big flash graphics that AoC has (which you will more than likely have to spend $500+ to upgrade ur pc to run it well) but it has ALOT more story , its alot more fun to play, better classes , not linear and isnt based on instances.. Watch when WAR comes out , AoC will lose half their players..maybe more..
People talking about ganking in WAR are ignorant.
There is no ganking in WAR, the game is centered around factional warfare. There can't be ganking. Most zones are faction against faction and you get xp for killing other players, but there are also tons of pve content.
It is quite a different setup. AoC = WoW. WAR doesnt not resemble WoW in gameplay.
AoC is just another raid infested, battlegrounded bland mmo with nothing but pretty graphics. WAR has at least some innovative features and a different gameplay.
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Please dont get me started...
Take all the war talk over to the war forums, otherwise people are just going to get pissed off.
I have reached 60 yesterday and all I can say is: playing 1-40 was a blast, after that you really notice how crude the game really is. I am not talking about the grind/lack of quests but broken/missing features, itemization and the like. For now for a new mmo starved gamer like me AoC does fill the bill, but Funcom will have to introduce a lot of bug fixes and other optimization if they wish to keep my subscription in the long run.
Will WAR be the better at launch? Who knows, we will see once it comes out.
Smells like jelousy to me, but i couldnt care less WAr seems freakin boring.
Bingo.
Please dont get me started...
Take all the war talk over to the war forums, otherwise people are just going to get pissed off.
You really are amazing, aren't you? I mean you write this to me and not to the ones who brought it up?
Tell this to the aoc fanbois who attack WAR out of frustration over the failures of AoC..
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Draccan says failures. And who is Draccan?
I see lots of players. No way near empty.
Community is there, more if you are in a guild.
Playing on PVP-server is fun and tense. You never know when you will be hit from behind hehe.
Less ganking on higher LVL's. Server i play atleast.
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We know right now people are feeling like all armor in Age of Conan is the same and brown. I assure you this is not the case, for along time now we have had a "GM area" where we spawned lots of NPC's that had all sorts of armor appearances so we could tell when art was completed. We have one of these for armor, weapons, and social clothing. Hundreds upon hundreds of appearances.
Anyway to cut to the chase I took your guys concerns and shot an email to Ole Herbjornsen our Lead Designer to ask about Itemization. Ole came back with some very encouraging news. They are going to put blue loot on bosses in the outdoor playfields now and not only on bosses in instances. In addition 3 sets of epic armours for each class (for a total of 36) will allow the item designers to move more of the unique stuff down to lower tiers and over from purple and blue towards green.
The gfx artists will also produce a lot of extra weapons which will further increase the visual variety. He expects these things to be coming into the game within the next week or two.
So AOC is getting better and better.