Whats with all the hate?

Shadowhand

Well damn if I made my decision to play or to not play Conan based on some of the threads on these forums theres no way in hell I would have bought it. But as it is..its one of my favorite MMO's. I'm having a blast, Does it have its problems? Sure, what mmorpg is problemless (if thats a real word? ) What mmorpg has no players that dislike it? . I try not to look at everything from a technical point of view. I'm having great fun in AoC why? who cares, at least i'm enjoying myself. More so then I have in any mmorpg in a while. I'm really not sure what everyone was expecting, But I was not let down.

I understand there are people who are having technical issues, I cannot speak for them.

But I dont understand the actual hate/flaming here...is it this Game VS Game rivalry? I'll try out WAR in a heartbeat but i'm not going to let my being an AoC player keep me from trying/enjoying both. I tried to play CoH/CoV last year and hated it...but I never went on a flaming rage across there forums, I never even posted on there forums. I mean what gives. With the amount of time these people spent posting negative stuff about the game, they could actually be playing their mmorpg of choice and "Having fun" or is that not the reason we play MMORPG's anymore? its as if they actually WANT people to have AoC.

 

Few points, The Instancing/Zoning doesn't bother me at all, I don't see what the problem is here, in the future they will raise /perhaps even remove the instance cap. I fell totally immersed in the game.

Bugs? Name a mmorpg that released bugless, same with the "The game is still in beta past release" thing...I have to admit, even tho I did not like the game, LOTRO came pretty damn close.

If conan had traditional mmorpg fighting, people would complain that it was nothing new, or just another WoW clone. There is no way to satisfy everyone.

Will WAR be successful? Yeah I think it will be, Speaking of a WoW clone? Sure Warhammer is far older then Warcraft but the point is, is that style of game has already been done, and been very successful and has been so for 4+ years. Will it bring new stuff to the table? I'm sure it will with mythic at the forefront. But I dont think it will be a holy grail mmorpg, I dont think we will see one of those for a while. But hell i'll try it the day it comes out.

With all the WoW hate among elitist gamers I dont think they would play WoW even if they wanted to hehe.

 

I dont know....i'm going to jump back in AoC!

Of course there will be a flaming troll or two. But I guess thats ok

SlothBear

The AoC boards aren't any worse than any other game's forum. The thing is the people who hate games seem to feel obliged to post hate posts forever whereas the people who like them give up at some point and just go play the game.

If you went by what these forums say you'd think every mmorpg ever made was trash. You just have to learn to read between the lines.

SinzOfMan

they are simply frustrated and had set their expectations too high.  some people take games way too seriously and expect them to occupy the majority of their waking lives.  when they realize this is rediculous they need somewhere to vent their frustration.  hey it's better than holding it in and getting sick right?

TsukieU

Originally posted by Shadowhand


Well damn if I made my decision to play or to not play Conan based on some of the threads on these forums theres no way in hell I would have bought it. But as it is..its one of my favorite MMO's. I'm having a blast, Does it have its problems? Sure, what mmorpg is problemless (if thats a real word? ) What mmorpg has no players that dislike it? . I try not to look at everything from a technical point of view. I'm having great fun in AoC why? who cares, at least i'm enjoying myself. More so then I have in any mmorpg in a while. I'm really not sure what everyone was expecting, But I was not let down.
Most of the people on these boards are avid MMO players.  There is no reasoning with us.  You are either against us or for us.
I understand there are people who are having technical issues, I cannot speak for them.
But I dont understand the actual hate/flaming here...is it this Game VS Game rivalry? I'll try out WAR in a heartbeat but i'm not going to let my being an AoC player keep me from trying/enjoying both. I tried to play CoH/CoV last year and hated it...but I never went on a flaming rage across there forums, I never even posted on there forums. I mean what gives. With the amount of time these people spent posting negative stuff about the game, they could actually be playing their mmorpg of choice and "Having fun" or is that not the reason we play MMORPG's anymore? its as if they actually WANT people to have AoC.
I think the better question is, why do you care?  Most people here will see the boards and pass them by after the first volley from the forum warriors.  So what made you weather the initial assault and make an opinionated post on a subject you care about?  When you answer that, you will find out why people post what they do, it's probably the same.
 
Few points, The Instancing/Zoning doesn't bother me at all, I don't see what the problem is here, in the future they will raise /perhaps even remove the instance cap. I fell totally immersed in the game.
Hopefully, but I wouldn't count on it.
Bugs? Name a mmorpg that released bugless, same with the "The game is still in beta past release" thing...I have to admit, even tho I did not like the game, LOTRO came pretty damn close.
If conan had traditional mmorpg fighting, people would complain that it was nothing new, or just another WoW clone. There is no way to satisfy everyone.
Of course not.  This is a given, why are you surprised?  But as to the Age of Conan and bug-free MMO launches go.  Age of Conan was pretty low on the list.  I launched with several game-breaking problems.  How they are handling the problems is making people even more upset.
Will WAR be successful? Yeah I think it will be, Speaking of a WoW clone? Sure Warhammer is far older then Warcraft but the point is, is that style of game has already been done, and been very successful and has been so for 4+ years. Will it bring new stuff to the table? I'm sure it will with mythic at the forefront. But I dont think it will be a holy grail mmorpg, I dont think we will see one of those for a while. But hell i'll try it the day it comes out.
WAR will be unlike WoW because it'll be more like it's parent MMO, DAoC.  The only similarity to World of Warcraft that I've seen so far was art direction, and even then it's not really that similar.  I'm not sure where you are finding these commonalities.  Perhaps you could point a few out?
With all the WoW hate among elitist gamers I dont think they would play WoW even if they wanted to hehe.
...what does this have to do with AoC?
 
I dont know....i'm going to jump back in AoC!
Of course there will be a flaming troll or two. But I guess thats ok

 

Anubisan

I agree with you OP... 

I have even tried to argue against the trolls on this forum, but I realize there is no point to it.

Arguing the merits or problems of a game is like arguing politics. Everyone has an opinion and they feel so strongly about that opinion that no amount of argument, regardless of how logical, could ever change it.

Is AOC a good game? I certainly think so... but there are many who disagree.

Trowar

And on other news:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/05/27/game-review-age-of-conan-pc

 

"With a week of solid play and 25 levels under my belt, I have walked away from my Hyborian adventure immensely satisfied with a title that has so far proven to be incredibly robust and full of potential. Many MMOs these days launch with nothing but promises, but the early content of Age of Conan is more than enough to warrant the attention of serious and casual MMO players alike. With its strong combat engine, excellent narrative experience, no-holds-barred attitude, and expansive world rich in lore, Age of Conan is an incredibly, almost surprisingly, strong MMORPG at launch.

Conan adopts a far more action-oriented approach to combat than its peers, and while spells still have cool-downs and cast times, the general pace of combat is sped up significantly. Melee attacks happen in real time; you can't click the auto-attack button and sit back. Players must continually hit one of three attacks—left, right, and overhead—to attack the target, and stringing together these attacks in certain ways results in damaging combos. Better still, most weapons produce splash damage which allows you to fight more than one enemy at once—something you'll do often, as one-on-one fighting is definitely not the norm in the game."

 

Those that actually plays AoC enjoys it very much.

 

My guess "the hate" is from players who are afraid how AoC will affect the sales their old games.

firefly2003

People act on these forums like its a crime to post negative things they dislike or opinions that dont show postive review to a game its a forum people can say negative things about games or point out things they dont like  but there are people to seem to think otherwise and choose to pick those people out cause it hurts or offends them in some way.....

 

Some people just dont like certain type of games , some games dont meet the expectations they had wanted with it reviewing it and playing it, some are sick of the same rehash fantasy games over and over with no real innovation, there are plenty of reasons to dislike any MMO and people have a right to complain or post a opinion just as the people who flame back at them for doing so doesnt make them right either with the im holier than thou  attitude ..... its just pointless .... just post what you want to say and leave it be unless its a constructive conversation topic, if you dont like what your reading there is a little block button......

Guintu

Originally posted by TsukieU

Originally posted by Shadowhand



 
Bugs? Name a mmorpg that released bugless, same with the "The game is still in beta past release" thing...I have to admit, even tho I did not like the game, LOTRO came pretty damn close.
If conan had traditional mmorpg fighting, people would complain that it was nothing new, or just another WoW clone. There is no way to satisfy everyone.
Of course not.  This is a given, why are you surprised?  But as to the Age of Conan and bug-free MMO launches go.  Age of Conan was pretty low on the list.  I launched with several game-breaking problems.  How they are handling the problems is making people even more upset.

 

I like the game also, I think the fighting is more fun than the average mmo.  On the other hand I was in the beta and I said if they didn't get rid of more of the major bugs before they went gold people would be upset and it may hurt the game.  Sure many people like the game and I hope they can squash the bugs before its to late and people start to give up on the game.  Me myself am not going to pay for the game for about 6 months or so, then I'll see if the majority of the bugs are fixed, if I hear thier not then I'll wait another 6 months.  If another game comes along that catches my eye and I start playing it, I may skip Conan at least until I get bored with that game.  They took a big risk bringing the game out before the bugs were fixed, we'll see if and how much this decision will hurt the game and if Funcom will learn from this mistake.  Is it more important to get a game out on time or to make the game right?  I can also see it through Funcoms eyes, the longer they wait to fix bugs, the more money they have to put into the game and the more money thair loosing....but if their are a huge amount of bugs and a lot of people leave because of them does the money they save from bringing it out on time really matter?  Its a tough decision and they made it, only time will tell if it works out for the.  So far the game has been selling well, but will it keep selling well and how many people will leave?

Liquidvison

there will be haters in any game you play as always, some people just like to hate on others or to start arguments...they are the same people that spam global chat in games with bad language and stupid sexuall and racist comments.....the best advice i can give is stop looking to others to see if you should play a game or not...if it looks good to you then play it...dont base your desisions on a population of people that most couldnt pass an IQ exam

Cynthe

The more the haters the more popular something is, I think that applies to pretty much anything... Maybe take it as a sign that Age of Conan is doing quite well and might be worth the try.

Positive trollism +1

 

Shadowhand

Originally posted by TsukieU

Originally posted by Shadowhand


Well damn if I made my decision to play or to not play Conan based on some of the threads on these forums theres no way in hell I would have bought it. But as it is..its one of my favorite MMO's. I'm having a blast, Does it have its problems? Sure, what mmorpg is problemless (if thats a real word? ) What mmorpg has no players that dislike it? . I try not to look at everything from a technical point of view. I'm having great fun in AoC why? who cares, at least i'm enjoying myself. More so then I have in any mmorpg in a while. I'm really not sure what everyone was expecting, But I was not let down.
Most of the people on these boards are avid MMO players.  There is no reasoning with us.  You are either against us or for us.
I understand there are people who are having technical issues, I cannot speak for them.
But I dont understand the actual hate/flaming here...is it this Game VS Game rivalry? I'll try out WAR in a heartbeat but i'm not going to let my being an AoC player keep me from trying/enjoying both. I tried to play CoH/CoV last year and hated it...but I never went on a flaming rage across there forums, I never even posted on there forums. I mean what gives. With the amount of time these people spent posting negative stuff about the game, they could actually be playing their mmorpg of choice and "Having fun" or is that not the reason we play MMORPG's anymore? its as if they actually WANT people to have AoC.
I think the better question is, why do you care?  Most people here will see the boards and pass them by after the first volley from the forum warriors.  So what made you weather the initial assault and make an opinionated post on a subject you care about?  When you answer that, you will find out why people post what they do, it's probably the same.
 
Few points, The Instancing/Zoning doesn't bother me at all, I don't see what the problem is here, in the future they will raise /perhaps even remove the instance cap. I fell totally immersed in the game.
Hopefully, but I wouldn't count on it.
Bugs? Name a mmorpg that released bugless, same with the "The game is still in beta past release" thing...I have to admit, even tho I did not like the game, LOTRO came pretty damn close.
If conan had traditional mmorpg fighting, people would complain that it was nothing new, or just another WoW clone. There is no way to satisfy everyone.
Of course not.  This is a given, why are you surprised?  But as to the Age of Conan and bug-free MMO launches go.  Age of Conan was pretty low on the list.  I launched with several game-breaking problems.  How they are handling the problems is making people even more upset.
Will WAR be successful? Yeah I think it will be, Speaking of a WoW clone? Sure Warhammer is far older then Warcraft but the point is, is that style of game has already been done, and been very successful and has been so for 4+ years. Will it bring new stuff to the table? I'm sure it will with mythic at the forefront. But I dont think it will be a holy grail mmorpg, I dont think we will see one of those for a while. But hell i'll try it the day it comes out.
WAR will be unlike WoW because it'll be more like it's parent MMO, DAoC.  The only similarity to World of Warcraft that I've seen so far was art direction, and even then it's not really that similar.  I'm not sure where you are finding these commonalities.  Perhaps you could point a few out?
With all the WoW hate among elitist gamers I dont think they would play WoW even if they wanted to hehe.
...what does this have to do with AoC?
 
I dont know....i'm going to jump back in AoC!
Of course there will be a flaming troll or two. But I guess thats ok

 

I think the better question is, why do you care?  Most people here will see the boards and pass them by after the first volley from the forum warriors.  So what made you weather the initial assault and make an opinionated post on a subject you care about?  When you answer that, you will find out why people post what they do, it's probably the same.

I think you missunderstood My point here is my opinion that certain gamers refuse to let them selves like a game even if they wanted to due to Game VS game rivalries. What made me weather the initial assault? Well I really did not..I was too busy playing the game to come here carefully and read the post I just chose now to do so.

Hopefully, but I wouldn't count on it.

Kinda beating a dead horse here, But as time progresses and the average PC of subscribers upgrade...why would they not? Of course its a possibility they might not...but again this is all opinion, no right or wrong answer

 

Of course not.  This is a given, why are you surprised?  But as to the Age of Conan and bug-free MMO launches go.  Age of Conan was pretty low on the list.  I launched with several game-breaking problems.  How they are handling the problems is making people even more upset.

Well I am not, nor did I say I was surprised at this. I'm sorry to hear that you had several game breaking problems to deal with. As I said I cannot speak for the people who had technical issues, But for me personally I had a flawless launch on day 1...compared to WoW ( I was also there at day 1 ) Lag was unbrearable, But then again I had friends who had no lag at all...so again this is debatable. Why do I compare to WoW? Because WoW is the standard that the average MMO player looks at.

WAR will be unlike WoW because it'll be more like it's parent MMO, DAoC.  The only similarity to World of Warcraft that I've seen so far was art direction, and even then it's not really that similar.  I'm not sure where you are finding these commonalities.  Perhaps you could point a few out?

Well being a huge fan of mythic and playing DAoC for 6 years I dont think it will be exactly like WoW, but with the artwork as it stands... do you honestly think that it will never be compared to as a WoW clone? It already has been from what i've seen. But as I said I have faith in mythic.

...what does this have to do with AoC?
This has nothing to do with AoC, but everything to do with PART of the point I was trying to make.
Let me sum this all up ...........Cant we all just get along? hehe

Shadowhand

Im also not trying to argue with the haters, I'm trying to shine a small ray of light to the people pondering on the idea of buying the game. I mean if they seriously saw the threads here, why would they even try it?

 

I guess its like the news? Theres pleanty of great stuff going on in the world...but all the news seems to show is all the bad stuff....Oh god I hate to use a quote from spiderman.....but how did that saying go? The only thing people like more then a hero....is to see a hero fall.

That fits in there somewhere hehe.