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MadGonzo
Member Posts: 55
It might be too early to inquire about this, but here goes:
Will this be another Age of Conan?
Hyped up, discussed everywhere and finally a big let down because it was released nowhere near completion?
That seems to be the new money making regime:
Set up servers, and let it roll, because people will still pay...
I have to say its my fault entirely, because I was expecting a product that was somewhere near what it said on the back of the box...
I heard recently that people was shouting that right until the end in the closed beta (which is still running)
Thing is, im hearing the exact same thing for this exact game, which (sic) also seems interesting!
If you have played or heard from the beta, care to elaborate?
I love MMO's, and they dont have a short lifetime to me, but i would like to change from WoW to something new and big..
Sorry if i sound like a wounded soldier here 
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Funcom has never had a good reputation when it comes to customer service, launching, etc. Plus they flat out said the game was designed for the Xbox which explains the issues people have with certain aspects of the game.
Mythic on the other hand has a long standing reputation despite 1 bad expansion. The game is much further along and its been in development less time than Age of Conan. They've never backpedaled on any promises unlike Funcom which promised DX10 at launch and there was none, that promised tons of classes then cut out several, that promised Drinking Capes only to veteran subscribers of their newsletter but put it into the CE, etc etc on the backpedalling. Age of Conan is not a bad game the Dev's just made some really bad decisions due to investor worries.
This is not me saying everything will be super perfect 100 percent no patches needed and nothing is broken at launch. All MMOs have issues, there are just some things that dont get taken care of in time or aren't caught until a server is fully loaded with players doing things at willy nilly. But due to their very open policy towards things unlike the cloud of mystery that some companies have upheld WAR will not have the massive negative issues that AoC has had. Thats just MY opinion of course.
The game is several months away (its launch estimate is Fall there is no official release date yet) so its really to early to be debating this particular subject.
btw i've not heard the same beta complaints you have....especially since to discuss so is a violation of NDA unless its officially discussed public information. WAR's Closed beta ends the moment Open Beta hits.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
ah thanks for your time explaining this to me
(sorry for the quick write-up here)
im fully aware of the MMO production phases, and the complexity of it all (im a networking engineer, programmer)
and yes, a whole heapload of bugs and crashes just are to be expected, as thousands of players log on
and a couple of few homeroom hackers break the servers the first week
i will be watching WAR in the future, and applying for open beta, if thats an option at this moment
hope to see you there as well
Elven pretty much hit the nail on the head there
But just to add one more thing...WAR has been pushed back twice and DEVs have stated that many many things are ready for release...This helps me to believe that the game will be ready when launched. not perfect? but close sure there will need to be patches and fixes but i think WAR will over-all have a good launch...I trust Mythic (but I did have fun with ToA =])
EDIT: there will be on Open beta to apply for The Open Beta wont be "Open" but to only those who have pre ordered the CE...DAoC vets(not sure if this go by subs of DAoC but they has stated that those in DAoC will get invites and those already in the closed beta
Its been in closed beta for months.....you might wanna sign up while you can...there won't be an official 'open beta' you have to be 'invited' to open beta. They're not doing the everyoen who comes gets in type...those always seem to be disasterous.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
needalife pointed out the key - they have proven by their actions (delays, changes in timing, etc), actions that have cost them money and reputation within the community. They have proven through these actions that they are doing whatever they can to release a great product that they will not rush or let out the door until it is ready...
im not gonna hand out guesswork as whether or not they release the game or not
(afai can remember thats what the aforementioned doomsaying was about)
because either it will be, or it wont happen
i like the setting though, so i will most likely buy it to try it out if i cant get into the beta
listening to the "paul barnett interview".. hehe what a guy
"we want you to buy this game, and never play another one"
he clearly loves his job, thats a good sign if i ever saw one
Also there is a huge difference in what Complete and Finished is for an MMO!
Complete would be there is a solid amount of content and things to do from lvl 1 to the whatever the cap may be and all the things that are listed as live are in the game and working properly.
Finished doesn't happen cause no MMO is ever finished.
As stated above,Mythic has made no bones about delays,etc. I like the honesty although I cussed quite a bit at both delays,in the end I understand why.They also revamped the Greenskin area awhile back because they said it wasn't to their liking.I also like the fact that they are doing "focused" beta testing.It equates to me that they are leaving no stone unturned.No MMO is perfect at launch,and you will always have naysayers.I think the launch will go smoother than most due to the points I just stated.I am frothing at the mouth for RvR and playing a "real" Orc
then i dont mind discrepansies along the way such as bugged content and crashing here and there
i also felt like i waited forever for each real update in WoW, like content
they could have added 1 square meter of new stuff once a week, and it would keep me there..
but "all" they did was add another instance every 3 months, and more quests and items
i dont even know why people play that game just to get that.. is it really that fun? i doubt it
my friend says its boring as hell, yet he still raids in the same dungeons as last month
and so on
this is an uneducated opinion of course and should be treated as such
i wonder though, how does this relate to WAR? any reading i can do?
they are both good game, made by good companies and they will both have problems at and beyond launch.
both will overcome these problems and trot along making a nice profit for the companies share holders and you will get a nice game to play.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
I think Mythic is a lot better at focusing their vision and only including the things that are integral to the game's success, rather than adding all sorts of extra things that might be cool, but aren't really needed (mounted combat, housing etc), and instead focus on what's really important (content, RvR, balance, classes etc.) I can't say if launch will be perfect, but the DAoC launch was really, really, really smooth.
If this game kills WoW we will all rejoice like the guys at the end of Starwars : VI.
If it doesn't... there's always WotLK.
people will always put away a game if they feel its not fun
for one its fun if the multiplayer in mmorpg is there
If you want to read up on the game (or watch up rather), there are a ton of videos in the video archive sticky.
You could also go to the main Warhammer site and watch the many videos they have posted.
Here is a link to the production podcasts, they are usually about game mechanics.
http://herald.warhammeronline.com/podcast/index.php
STOP WHINING!
turns out im VERY interested in this game
the only bad thing i can think of is that i cant play it right now
then again, if youre waiting for something good ...
turns out im VERY interested in this game
the only bad thing i can think of is that i cant play it right now
then again, if youre waiting for something good ...
I had knee surgery a week ago and pretty much all I've done is watch WAR videos ... needless to say boredom of not having beta + hyping myself up on these videos + inability to walk = sucks ><
I will say though - watching the videos has been a lot of fun - they have a very specific Vision (TM) for this game and watching them presenting it with such passion is awesome.
turns out im VERY interested in this game
the only bad thing i can think of is that i cant play it right now
then again, if youre waiting for something good ...
I had knee surgery a week ago and pretty much all I've done is watch WAR videos ... needless to say boredom of not having beta + hyping myself up on these videos + inability to walk = sucks ><
I will say though - watching the videos has been a lot of fun - they have a very specific Vision (TM) for this game and watching them presenting it with such passion is awesome.
yea, thats pretty much what im thinking right now, and i have a short attention span tooi know this game will be great, because they seem to be putting alot of effort into the gameplay itself
all of it.. i cant help but think release date seems far far away the more i watch and read
Why should we rejoice? Why should we be happy about something dumb like that?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Internet happened...Why should we rejoice? Why should we be happy about something dumb like that?
I dont think WoW will go away - especially when Wrath of the Lich King is on the way
ive stopped playing WoW though, simply because of what it is.. a grind fest from start to end
it used to be fun, when people actually played their multiplayer part... not so much anymore
im not there for the end-game raiding aspect.. just to get better items
PvP is fun now and then, but even that is getting tiresome
and thats exactly it, when you dont find it fun anymore, why should you play it?
most of my friends who still play WoW do it because of habit, and force themselves to log on,
perhaps to not lose their guild (status?) etc. - which makes me wonder if there isnt anything better to do
hence me coming here... i hope WAR is my salvation, and perhaps yours
I believe and hope that WAR will be "finished" at release. As finished a mmorpg can be hehe. I think it was wise of them to take time and make it right and not rush things. These days when there are so many mmorpgs out there to choose from people tend to get more picky. No one wants to play and pay for a game that lack in content and performance. So I hope they give it time and make it ready before they launch it.
Vanguard is a good example, if they would have waited a bit longer, Vanguard would probably be extremely more popular then it is now, and I hope it will gain more players now when they are starting to get it right. But then again I that had extremely high hopes about Vanguard at release and quit after 2 month of play still have a hard time to give it another chance.
So the state of a game at release is so important now days. People just don't accept buggy and stuttering games anymore like before. If they don't like it they just have to pick another one. Before there weren't as much options like now.
Yea.. when i think about it, i started wow when patch 1.5 was out (pvp!) and it was all magical
i loved EVERY THING... i loved running around not knowing what to do and so on and so forth
it was my first mmo, of course, and the magic was there for me
now things have changed for the worse
i expect a mmo to go beyond wow at first try even if i say i dont
can it be done? it can be, but not easily and not for a less-than gigantic organization.
AoC for instance was probably at a now or never release timeframe
(at least thats the most common conception)
im very happy with what i see (more by the day it seems) from WAR, so far so very good
hopefully, as the director himself said, people buy and never play another game
its a risk though, making an mmo that is heavily dependent on other players being there
i know from interviews that a big part of the game relies on there being other players to wage war against
and guess what? thats the part i definitely love the most.. its earcandy, if thats even a word