Considering that about 95% of our time is going to spent out in the open world RvR with no limitation trying to capture keeps to one day get the chance to siege a capital city! The small amount of this necessary instancing since its really going to attract the entire server I don't mind it at all! Plus it only lasts for like what 24hrs then its back to open world RvR once again with no instancing!
the instancing is only part of the Siege they've been saying that since Paris adn it has nothing to do with performance and everything about allowing everyone to participate..what good is is to have a siege and get to do nothing beucase the first 50 people in the gate wiped everything out.
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the instancing is only part of the Siege they've been saying that since Paris adn it has nothing to do with performance and everything about allowing everyone to participate..what good is is to have a siege and get to do nothing beucase the first 50 people in the gate wiped everything out.
This is the case. It s to let everyone participate. You can t have a SERVER wide event all in one area and think it will be playable. I can assure you it s not going to happen everyday it will be rare. They want to make City Sieging a fun/epic event and don t want people doing it daily. That said if you re city is under attack they want everyone to have fun in the battle. the gates etc is not instanced it s the last part of the fight but it s necessary.
Also you have to remember it s not like 500 of you show up and only 50 of you can go into this last step. It s many many many copies of the different parts of the city. If say for example theres 50 copies if the attackers win 26 they take it over.
Consider that, because city sieges are important events for everyone on each side, there will be a lot of people trying to defend/assault the city. City Sieges seem like the kind of event that everyone will want to take part in regardless of how much PvPing they do. Instancing in some areas seems like a must.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
I think the one cool thing you have to remember is that to get to the city capture phase you have to take the final tier keep, the fortress. So there is going to be a H U G E keep battle in the open world before you move into the city.
So you'll get your huge battle and then you'll make your final defense in some cool scenarios... I think it'll be fun.
Fair enough. It looks like the majority of you have complete faith in Mythic and are willing to put up with some instances. I'm willing to give Mythic a shot, I just hope they lean more toward open field rvr over the instances throughout the whole game. That's what will really set it apart from WoW. I have some ideas as to how they could distribute the players throughout the city w/out instances, but I'll keep it to myself and see how Mythic handles it.
I have a rule: If it's instanced, you might as well be playing an offline RPG.
I want to see the world around me and the actions of other players. If they beseige a city and I'm a bit late for the party, then so be it. But if they besieged an instanced city, then the event is not happeing as far as I am concerned.
I see you have decided to haunt warhammer now that you tore through Aoc. lol
I think he should just pass this game by and never look back. War will be better off, we will be better off and so will he.
Um.. who exactly are we talking about? Regardless of what WAR does with the city sieging, it will be LIGHT YEARS better than AoC when it comes to instancing. AoC went hog wild with instances while WAR at least has the open field rvr and keep warfare still intact.
There was no "gonna wait and see because it could suck, or they could pull off a very easily boring/frustrating game mechanic and make it fun, instead of a complete waste of a normal person's time" so I didn't vote.
I have faith in Mythic. At least, I have faith in them ever since they fired/laid off/let go of Mackey.
Since then it's been a long uphill climb back to good stuff. And WAR is lookin sweet.
But I'll have to wait and see.
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Personally I dont mind Instancing. The way its being done by mythic with amount of players able to do the instancing at any given time is fantastic instead of having to wait for a party to form up. It just goes with who's there at the time. You're not at the whim of chance.
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I'd rather have it instance than being unable to see if my character is running forward or standing still.
i agree 100%... plus, by many instances it means more fun for everyone. If a city is under attack, and i join in 4hours later, what would be left for me to destroy, burn and kill? tehre wouldnt be much action, beside lagging around...
I have a rule: If it's instanced, you might as well be playing an offline RPG. I want to see the world around me and the actions of other players. If they beseige a city and I'm a bit late for the party, then so be it. But if they besieged an instanced city, then the event is not happeing as far as I am concerned.
The city itself isn't instanced...part of the Sieging once the Gates are bashed in IS while you may not care if others or yourself miss out on things a majority of People actually do. Mythic is leaning towards that majority for once instead of the minority of 'first come first serve' types.
The instanced street battles will help with performance, fairness, keeping the war going for much longer than a quick zerg fight, and all both sides a proper chance at winning.
While life isn't fair naturally..this is a game...and if there's a way to make things more fair to appeal to large amounts of players so that people will Always show up instead of the "oh i'm 5 mins to late screw it *goes to grind* " which is what would eventually happen then I'm all for it....Plus I like not having a slide show I can only imagine that 200 + people on both sides would = alot of lag.
Instead of just a single 48vs48 fight it'll be a massive war even if we don't see every peice of action going on..and the more versions of the instance that the attackers wins the bigger the chance for the city to come completely under control of the attackers so that all instances count which is awsome.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
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i think it comes down to that puting such a big price at stake as a city capture. Playability is a must.
Considering that about 95% of our time is going to spent out in the open world RvR with no limitation trying to capture keeps to one day get the chance to siege a capital city! The small amount of this necessary instancing since its really going to attract the entire server I don't mind it at all! Plus it only lasts for like what 24hrs then its back to open world RvR once again with no instancing!
Works for me, no complaints here!
the instancing is only part of the Siege they've been saying that since Paris adn it has nothing to do with performance and everything about allowing everyone to participate..what good is is to have a siege and get to do nothing beucase the first 50 people in the gate wiped everything out.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I don't like instancing but I can't imagine another way to avoid it, the whole server population will be there
This is the case. It s to let everyone participate. You can t have a SERVER wide event all in one area and think it will be playable. I can assure you it s not going to happen everyday it will be rare. They want to make City Sieging a fun/epic event and don t want people doing it daily. That said if you re city is under attack they want everyone to have fun in the battle. the gates etc is not instanced it s the last part of the fight but it s necessary.
Also you have to remember it s not like 500 of you show up and only 50 of you can go into this last step. It s many many many copies of the different parts of the city. If say for example theres 50 copies if the attackers win 26 they take it over.
Consider that, because city sieges are important events for everyone on each side, there will be a lot of people trying to defend/assault the city. City Sieges seem like the kind of event that everyone will want to take part in regardless of how much PvPing they do. Instancing in some areas seems like a must.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
I think that we dont know our ass from elbows on this one and there isn't polling choice:
"I dont know I havent played it"
Its called Research the Dev's talked in depth on this subject in April in Paris and its on video you can easily search for it.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I think the one cool thing you have to remember is that to get to the city capture phase you have to take the final tier keep, the fortress. So there is going to be a H U G E keep battle in the open world before you move into the city.
So you'll get your huge battle and then you'll make your final defense in some cool scenarios... I think it'll be fun.
Fair enough. It looks like the majority of you have complete faith in Mythic and are willing to put up with some instances. I'm willing to give Mythic a shot, I just hope they lean more toward open field rvr over the instances throughout the whole game. That's what will really set it apart from WoW. I have some ideas as to how they could distribute the players throughout the city w/out instances, but I'll keep it to myself and see how Mythic handles it.
I have a rule: If it's instanced, you might as well be playing an offline RPG.
I want to see the world around me and the actions of other players. If they beseige a city and I'm a bit late for the party, then so be it. But if they besieged an instanced city, then the event is not happeing as far as I am concerned.
Instances are necessary simply due to the number of players that will be concentrated in a single area.
Maybe so.
I see you have decided to haunt warhammer now that you tore through Aoc. lol
I think he should just pass this game by and never look back. War will be better off, we will be better off and so will he.
I think he should just pass this game by and never look back. War will be better off, we will be better off and so will he.
Um.. who exactly are we talking about? Regardless of what WAR does with the city sieging, it will be LIGHT YEARS better than AoC when it comes to instancing. AoC went hog wild with instances while WAR at least has the open field rvr and keep warfare still intact.
There was no "gonna wait and see because it could suck, or they could pull off a very easily boring/frustrating game mechanic and make it fun, instead of a complete waste of a normal person's time" so I didn't vote.
I have faith in Mythic. At least, I have faith in them ever since they fired/laid off/let go of Mackey.
Since then it's been a long uphill climb back to good stuff. And WAR is lookin sweet.
But I'll have to wait and see.
[Begin Sarcasm]
Girls don't use the internet unless theres a webcam involved....its a physical impossibility.
They also don't play them thar vidya gaymes, mmorpg = most men online role play girls...even in ventrillo.
-kyte317
I'd have to try it out first before giving a critical assessment of it, but if it's anything like AoC/EQ2 instancing, i probably won't like it.
EQ2 and AoC's instancing are nothing like each other. EQ2 hardly uses instancing...
Personally I dont mind Instancing. The way its being done by mythic with amount of players able to do the instancing at any given time is fantastic instead of having to wait for a party to form up. It just goes with who's there at the time. You're not at the whim of chance.
Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
Playing EVE Online and AOC.
Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD
I'd rather have it instance than being unable to see if my character is running forward or standing still.
i agree 100%... plus, by many instances it means more fun for everyone. If a city is under attack, and i join in 4hours later, what would be left for me to destroy, burn and kill? tehre wouldnt be much action, beside lagging around...
The city itself isn't instanced...part of the Sieging once the Gates are bashed in IS while you may not care if others or yourself miss out on things a majority of People actually do. Mythic is leaning towards that majority for once instead of the minority of 'first come first serve' types.
The instanced street battles will help with performance, fairness, keeping the war going for much longer than a quick zerg fight, and all both sides a proper chance at winning.
While life isn't fair naturally..this is a game...and if there's a way to make things more fair to appeal to large amounts of players so that people will Always show up instead of the "oh i'm 5 mins to late screw it *goes to grind* " which is what would eventually happen then I'm all for it....Plus I like not having a slide show I can only imagine that 200 + people on both sides would = alot of lag.
Instead of just a single 48vs48 fight it'll be a massive war even if we don't see every peice of action going on..and the more versions of the instance that the attackers wins the bigger the chance for the city to come completely under control of the attackers so that all instances count which is awsome.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!