Yeah I agree you shouldn't judge it before you try it. Most likely if you tried you'd be dismissed as a moron. Just don't cross the line and say people can't have an opinion even if they didn't play it. I have an opinion that it's not quite what it was cracked up to be; it's good, but not as good as they promised. Yet I'm still about 90% I'm going to try it the near future. So, would I call the game good or bad?
If I share my opinion I do it not because I'm trying to convince someone to either buy it or not buy it. Even if I did play it and judged it with a review, I would let other people make that choice. Because if I said it wasn't so great and people decided to not buy it, no one could say that I made them make that choice.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Have to agree with many of the comments, I understand the argument of trying the game before you judge it, but it is a fact that there a few pre-requisites to being a person who will like this game. And if you don't meet those then you will flat out not like AoC, such as hating alot of instance gaming or hating an initial lack of content at the higher levels etc
Also there is the fact that there is no trial for AoC, so people have to fork out a bit of money just to see if they like the game, and a sensible person will way that up against both the negative and positive reviews of the game.
So without actually buying the game you can't actually give it a try, that is the problem with the OPs position, its all very well saying try it before you dismiss the game, but if trying it means actually buying the game then kinda defeats the purpose.
All anyone can do is read reviews on anything they want to purchase, if 50% of people say the game is total crap and 50% say its the best thing since sliced bread then it's probably a gamble and would be probably be best to wait for buddy keys or a trial.
For those sitting on the fence the best option is to wait for buddy keys or wait for a trial, because as most of us know AoC is definitely NOT for everyone its restrictive gameplay means there are people who will just not like it and it's better for them to wait and see before committing further.
" I won't play this game, I heard its bad." Yeah, I heard someone saw Elvis Presley walking in memphis 2 weeks ago... if you never try, then you never know, play the game before you judge, what other alternative do you have? lord of the rings online? world of warcraft? no thanks..
Was the Spanish Inquisition good or bad? Depends on your side of the Inquisitioning.
I agree with the OP and have read all the posts, I can see some points, but still lean towards what the OP said. Is $50 a lot of money, to some yes to others no. Have you wasted $50 on something other than games in your life, me heck yea I have (movies, food, exgirlfriends.. etc.) I would say its safe to say everyone has at 1 time or another.
Everyone is entitled to their oinion, thats fine, the thing that boggles my mind is, do people base all their decisions on what other people think? my point here is just because you like it or hate something does that mean I am going to like or hate it too?
I respect the fact that people are entitled to their opinions.
" I won't play this game, I heard its bad." Yeah, I heard someone saw Elvis Presley walking in memphis 2 weeks ago... if you never try, then you never know, play the game before you judge, what other alternative do you have? lord of the rings online? world of warcraft? no thanks..
How about wait instead for free trial ?
You are telling ppl to buy an unfinished product to find that out for themselfs - just so the gaming developer makes more money for a game that is not acceptable for release - Is that good for the MMO comunity ? Dont think so....
I agree with the OP and have read all the posts, I can see some points, but still lean towards what the OP said. Is $50 a lot of money, to some yes to others no. Have you wasted $50 on something other than games in your life, me heck yea I have (movies, food, exgirlfriends.. etc.) I would say its safe to say everyone has at 1 time or another. Everyone is entitled to their oinion, thats fine, the thing that boggles my mind is, do people base all their decisions on what other people think? my point here is just because you like it or hate something does that mean I am going to like or hate it too? I respect the fact that people are entitled to their opinions.
ppl can and should be able to make their opinions without paying for them. Thats why games have free trials and demos. Saying that ppl should pay $50 to then find out what has already been said many times is a disgrace. I bet you also support that gamers pay for taking part in betas now...
There is no reason anyone should pay $50 to see wether they like a game or not. It doesn t matter if you can afford t or not, it could be just a waste of money. Anyone saying oh big deal stfu it s only $50 should seriously look at it from other peoples perspective. I can easily afford to dump $50 on it and not worry if i like it or not, but why? It makes no sense whatsoever and i have the patience to wait for a free trial or whatever. That said i m lucky enough to know people that play it and i ve tried the game enough to know i won t buy it:) Anyways no need to pay anything to try a game out IMO.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by AOCtester
Originally posted by woody1974
I agree with the OP and have read all the posts, I can see some points, but still lean towards what the OP said. Is $50 a lot of money, to some yes to others no. Have you wasted $50 on something other than games in your life, me heck yea I have (movies, food, exgirlfriends.. etc.) I would say its safe to say everyone has at 1 time or another. Everyone is entitled to their oinion, thats fine, the thing that boggles my mind is, do people base all their decisions on what other people think? my point here is just because you like it or hate something does that mean I am going to like or hate it too? I respect the fact that people are entitled to their opinions.
ppl can and should be able to make their opinions without paying for them. Thats why games have free trials and demos. Saying that ppl should pay $50 to then find out what has already been said many times is a disgrace. I bet you also support that gamers pay for taking part in betas now...
A lot is to do with people wanting to try the game out now. They think its a race with AoC. They get frustrated because they havent got the patience to wait for the buddy keys to come thru. Venting on the issue of buddy keys is pretty low down on my care meter after 2 weeks from launch.
I agree with the OP and have read all the posts, I can see some points, but still lean towards what the OP said. Is $50 a lot of money, to some yes to others no. Have you wasted $50 on something other than games in your life, me heck yea I have (movies, food, exgirlfriends.. etc.) I would say its safe to say everyone has at 1 time or another. Everyone is entitled to their oinion, thats fine, the thing that boggles my mind is, do people base all their decisions on what other people think? my point here is just because you like it or hate something does that mean I am going to like or hate it too? I respect the fact that people are entitled to their opinions.
ppl can and should be able to make their opinions without paying for them. Thats why games have free trials and demos. Saying that ppl should pay $50 to then find out what has already been said many times is a disgrace. I bet you also support that gamers pay for taking part in betas now...
A lot is to do with people wanting to try the game out now. They think its a race with AoC. They get frustrated because they havent got the patience to wait for the buddy keys to come thru. Venting on the issue of buddy keys is pretty low down on my care meter after 2 weeks from launch.
Buddykeys are not free. Someone needs to pay for the game. Its the moneymaking developing way of cheating players out of trying before buying.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by AOCtester
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by AOCtester
Originally posted by woody1974
I agree with the OP and have read all the posts, I can see some points, but still lean towards what the OP said. Is $50 a lot of money, to some yes to others no. Have you wasted $50 on something other than games in your life, me heck yea I have (movies, food, exgirlfriends.. etc.) I would say its safe to say everyone has at 1 time or another. Everyone is entitled to their oinion, thats fine, the thing that boggles my mind is, do people base all their decisions on what other people think? my point here is just because you like it or hate something does that mean I am going to like or hate it too? I respect the fact that people are entitled to their opinions.
ppl can and should be able to make their opinions without paying for them. Thats why games have free trials and demos. Saying that ppl should pay $50 to then find out what has already been said many times is a disgrace. I bet you also support that gamers pay for taking part in betas now...
A lot is to do with people wanting to try the game out now. They think its a race with AoC. They get frustrated because they havent got the patience to wait for the buddy keys to come thru. Venting on the issue of buddy keys is pretty low down on my care meter after 2 weeks from launch.
Buddykeys are not free. Someone needs to pay for the game. Its the moneymaking developing way of cheating players out of trying before buying.
Thats ok then wait for the FREE TRIAL a few months down the road just like Guild Wars, just like LotRO did, people need to accept the fact this is the way it is with mmorpg's. You will get your free chance just have to wait for it, or it is quite possible someone knows someone who has a buddy key - there are over a million of them out there.
Well like I said everyone is entitled to their opinion and I am def not going to bash people over their opinions. I have been playing AOC since it came out and I love the game, I think in about a year, maybe less it will def compete with any other mmorpg out there. So if you like it, great, if you hate it, say your peace and move on.
" I won't play this game, I heard its bad." Yeah, I heard someone saw Elvis Presley walking in memphis 2 weeks ago... if you never try, then you never know, play the game before you judge, what other alternative do you have? lord of the rings online? world of warcraft? no thanks..
Tell you what give me a buddy key and I will try it out for 1 month...I refuse to spend 60$ on garbage, on a single player experience. But I buddy key and I will give it a fair go...what do you say?
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Yeah I agree you shouldn't judge it before you try it. Most likely if you tried you'd be dismissed as a moron. Just don't cross the line and say people can't have an opinion even if they didn't play it. I have an opinion that it's not quite what it was cracked up to be; it's good, but not as good as they promised. Yet I'm still about 90% I'm going to try it the near future. So, would I call the game good or bad?
If I share my opinion I do it not because I'm trying to convince someone to either buy it or not buy it. Even if I did play it and judged it with a review, I would let other people make that choice. Because if I said it wasn't so great and people decided to not buy it, no one could say that I made them make that choice.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Have to agree with many of the comments, I understand the argument of trying the game before you judge it, but it is a fact that there a few pre-requisites to being a person who will like this game. And if you don't meet those then you will flat out not like AoC, such as hating alot of instance gaming or hating an initial lack of content at the higher levels etc
Also there is the fact that there is no trial for AoC, so people have to fork out a bit of money just to see if they like the game, and a sensible person will way that up against both the negative and positive reviews of the game.
So without actually buying the game you can't actually give it a try, that is the problem with the OPs position, its all very well saying try it before you dismiss the game, but if trying it means actually buying the game then kinda defeats the purpose.
All anyone can do is read reviews on anything they want to purchase, if 50% of people say the game is total crap and 50% say its the best thing since sliced bread then it's probably a gamble and would be probably be best to wait for buddy keys or a trial.
For those sitting on the fence the best option is to wait for buddy keys or wait for a trial, because as most of us know AoC is definitely NOT for everyone its restrictive gameplay means there are people who will just not like it and it's better for them to wait and see before committing further.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Was the Spanish Inquisition good or bad? Depends on your side of the Inquisitioning.
I agree with the OP and have read all the posts, I can see some points, but still lean towards what the OP said. Is $50 a lot of money, to some yes to others no. Have you wasted $50 on something other than games in your life, me heck yea I have (movies, food, exgirlfriends.. etc.) I would say its safe to say everyone has at 1 time or another.
Everyone is entitled to their oinion, thats fine, the thing that boggles my mind is, do people base all their decisions on what other people think? my point here is just because you like it or hate something does that mean I am going to like or hate it too?
I respect the fact that people are entitled to their opinions.
You are telling ppl to buy an unfinished product to find that out for themselfs - just so the gaming developer makes more money for a game that is not acceptable for release - Is that good for the MMO comunity ? Dont think so....
ppl can and should be able to make their opinions without paying for them. Thats why games have free trials and demos. Saying that ppl should pay $50 to then find out what has already been said many times is a disgrace. I bet you also support that gamers pay for taking part in betas now...
There is no reason anyone should pay $50 to see wether they like a game or not. It doesn t matter if you can afford t or not, it could be just a waste of money. Anyone saying oh big deal stfu it s only $50 should seriously look at it from other peoples perspective. I can easily afford to dump $50 on it and not worry if i like it or not, but why? It makes no sense whatsoever and i have the patience to wait for a free trial or whatever. That said i m lucky enough to know people that play it and i ve tried the game enough to know i won t buy it:) Anyways no need to pay anything to try a game out IMO.
ppl can and should be able to make their opinions without paying for them. Thats why games have free trials and demos. Saying that ppl should pay $50 to then find out what has already been said many times is a disgrace. I bet you also support that gamers pay for taking part in betas now...
A lot is to do with people wanting to try the game out now. They think its a race with AoC. They get frustrated because they havent got the patience to wait for the buddy keys to come thru. Venting on the issue of buddy keys is pretty low down on my care meter after 2 weeks from launch.
How much are ppl paying for looking and check if clothes fit them ?
$50 ? Dont think so
Think about it....
Should games be diffrent ?
ppl can and should be able to make their opinions without paying for them. Thats why games have free trials and demos. Saying that ppl should pay $50 to then find out what has already been said many times is a disgrace. I bet you also support that gamers pay for taking part in betas now...
A lot is to do with people wanting to try the game out now. They think its a race with AoC. They get frustrated because they havent got the patience to wait for the buddy keys to come thru. Venting on the issue of buddy keys is pretty low down on my care meter after 2 weeks from launch.
Buddykeys are not free. Someone needs to pay for the game. Its the moneymaking developing way of cheating players out of trying before buying.ppl can and should be able to make their opinions without paying for them. Thats why games have free trials and demos. Saying that ppl should pay $50 to then find out what has already been said many times is a disgrace. I bet you also support that gamers pay for taking part in betas now...
A lot is to do with people wanting to try the game out now. They think its a race with AoC. They get frustrated because they havent got the patience to wait for the buddy keys to come thru. Venting on the issue of buddy keys is pretty low down on my care meter after 2 weeks from launch.
Buddykeys are not free. Someone needs to pay for the game. Its the moneymaking developing way of cheating players out of trying before buying.Thats ok then wait for the FREE TRIAL a few months down the road just like Guild Wars, just like LotRO did, people need to accept the fact this is the way it is with mmorpg's. You will get your free chance just have to wait for it, or it is quite possible someone knows someone who has a buddy key - there are over a million of them out there.
Well like I said everyone is entitled to their opinion and I am def not going to bash people over their opinions. I have been playing AOC since it came out and I love the game, I think in about a year, maybe less it will def compete with any other mmorpg out there. So if you like it, great, if you hate it, say your peace and move on.
Still pissed i buyed AoC. I could spend that 60€ for Mass effect game
Just playing Floransia closed beta and wait EU hellgate london 2.0 test center patch.
Tell you what give me a buddy key and I will try it out for 1 month...I refuse to spend 60$ on garbage, on a single player experience. But I buddy key and I will give it a fair go...what do you say?