MMORPG's success is measured in retention so until a month or two has passed it is way to early to call AoC a success. If it has 500K or better subscribers by August then it will be a success.
As far as moving on , get a grip dude. I bought it, I played it for a short period of time now I will comment on it.
Even on amazon.com user ratings give it an average of 3/5.
Here is the amazon.com user review roundup:
5 stars: 26 reviews
4 stars: 8 reviews
3 stars: 9 reviews
2 stars: 13 reviews
1 stars: 17 reviews
Now people can look at the numbers and make up their own mind about what this actually is telling us. Or they can go on to read the actual reviews for further clues.
As far as moving on , get a grip dude. I bought it, I played it for a short period of time now I will comment on it.
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
As far as moving on , get a grip dude. I bought it, I played it for a short period of time now I will comment on it.
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
Really? I'm glad to hear that simply upgrading ones graphics card will automatically make their stat system work, their Tier 3 cities open, their entire PvP system they promised install, the DX10 support show up, and for content past tortage to magically appear. I've really been waiting for someone to clear that up for me, thanks.
Perhaps YOU need to learn how to read what the haters are saying, and stop opening your mouth until you can actually make a response that makes sense.
It is pretty rediculous to see the lengths the hate filled trolls will go to, to try to bring a game they don't like down. I'd also recommend this game to anyone who is wondering about it.
then you must hate much everybody. because i wouldnot let any of my friends play it right now.
the best i can say at the moment is that maybe, let me say that again maybe it would be worth to check it out in 4-6 month. if frackcom is able to use that time to patch all the buggy stuffy.
Really? I'm glad to hear that simply upgrading ones graphics card will automatically make their stat system work, their Tier 3 cities open, their entire PvP system they promised install, the DX10 support show up, and for content past tortage to magically appear. I've really been waiting for someone to clear that up for me, thanks. Perhaps YOU need to learn how to read what the haters are saying, and stop opening your mouth until you can actually make a response that makes sense.
The reason they dont want to read what most haters are saying is because they are trying to ignore the missing content/lack of game and keep telling themselves the game is in good shape. Pretty much being like an Ostrich sticking its head in the sand. If they dont see it/read it, its not there/true.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
There will continue to be crying/hating threads until they find a perfect MMO which will never happen because the haters expect a game to be absolutely perfect at release even though it hasn't happened in the history of a MMO, and everyone has a different idea of what a perfect MMO is. I do see some of these people with an agenda against AoC though, making or posting in many troll threads, which is pretty petty.
As far as moving on , get a grip dude. I bought it, I played it for a short period of time now I will comment on it.
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
omg fyerwall you most be a god to know that all the aoc haters ar running top line pcs i douth that you have even played the game if thats the only things you can say
There will continue to be crying/hating threads until they find a perfect MMO which will never happen because the haters expect a game to be absolutely perfect at release even though it hasn't happened in the history of a MMO, and everyone has a different idea of what a perfect MMO is. I do see some of these people with an agenda against AoC though, making or posting in many troll threads, which is pretty petty.
As far as moving on , get a grip dude. I bought it, I played it for a short period of time now I will comment on it.
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
omg fyerwall you most be a god to know that all the aoc haters ar running top line pcs i douth that you have even played the game if thats the only things you can say
there bugs yes but nothing that kills this game
Ummm... werent you the one assuming that haters are playing with old systems? does that mean your a god aswell?
And yes, I have played the game (37 ranger Dagoth server) and played beta as well.
Lets see, where do I begin...
Hmmm... this is gonna be hard...
- Items had no stats from launch until tomorrows patch (assuming they dont screw that up as well)
- Quests are your standard FedEx quests
- Crafting is still fubar
- Where is all that great PvP fun? Oh yeah, coming in the next few months....
- Where the hell is my group? Ohhhh.... they are in instance 15 and I am in instance 27....
Think before you speak sir.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
im sure ill come off as a "fanboy" which is fine cause i am a fan of the game. the purpose of my post is to point out that AOC has had one of the most successful launches in the history of mmo's. yes there are issues and what not but overall the game is doing great. I see posts where ppl are saying this game isnt gonna last blah blah its gonna become a f2p blah blah. no game has ever seen this much success and failed that bad. Im sure there is gonna be some buyers remorse but not enough to put a dent into the overall success of this game. Now im not saying this game is gonna be the "wow killer" as that was never the purpose of it. Even funcom stated this game isnt for everyone. This game will join the ranks of some of the other very successful mmos out there, so to all the haters deal with it and move on. Oh and if anyone is considering buying this game and is discouraged by all the hate posts on this site dont be. There is less positive posts cause those people are in game rather than on here. ok back to AOC for me
i feel no hate for AOC. I love the Books I read all of them. I just feel disapointed by frackcom and their ever spining PR department.
i frackcom had released AOC in the 1940 in japan they would have had to do seppuku. to clean the shame nothing else would work.
nowdays everybody is a haters and nobody realy cares.
As far as moving on , get a grip dude. I bought it, I played it for a short period of time now I will comment on it.
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
omg fyerwall you most be a god to know that all the aoc haters ar running top line pcs i douth that you have even played the game if thats the only things you can say
there bugs yes but nothing that kills this game
Ummm... werent you the one assuming that haters are playing with old systems? does that mean your a god aswell?
And yes, I have played the game (37 ranger Dagoth server) and played beta as well.
Lets see, where do I begin...
Hmmm... this is gonna be hard...
- Items had no stats from launch until tomorrows patch (assuming they dont screw that up as well)
- Quests are your standard FedEx quests
- Crafting is still fubar
- Where is all that great PvP fun? Oh yeah, coming in the next few months....
- Where the hell is my group? Ohhhh.... they are in instance 15 and I am in instance 27....
Think before you speak sir.
either you didnt really play the game or you just put your brain on timeout and let your mouth start talking
"Sometimes, things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. People are basically good. Honor, courage, virtue mean everything. Power and money, money and power mean nothing. Good always triumphs over evil. Love, True Love Never Dies." Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
As far as moving on , get a grip dude. I bought it, I played it for a short period of time now I will comment on it.
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
omg fyerwall you most be a god to know that all the aoc haters ar running top line pcs i douth that you have even played the game if thats the only things you can say
there bugs yes but nothing that kills this game
Ummm... werent you the one assuming that haters are playing with old systems? does that mean your a god aswell?
And yes, I have played the game (37 ranger Dagoth server) and played beta as well.
Lets see, where do I begin...
Hmmm... this is gonna be hard...
- Items had no stats from launch until tomorrows patch (assuming they dont screw that up as well)
- Quests are your standard FedEx quests
- Crafting is still fubar
- Where is all that great PvP fun? Oh yeah, coming in the next few months....
- Where the hell is my group? Ohhhh.... they are in instance 15 and I am in instance 27....
Think before you speak sir.
either you didnt really play the game or you just put your brain on timeout and let your mouth start talking
Care to elaborate why?
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
One of the most successful launches? Its been plagued with nothing but problems. Issues with preorders, issues with performance, lack of content past 20, lack of 4 or so major features that were promised by the developers... And Funcom's marketing team is doing their best hyping it saying how many boxes they shipped, not how many sold. Brilliant strategy. And they say everything will be fixed "soon". Game wasn't ready to launch.
There will be a huge fall off rate, then you can say how successful it is.
As far as moving on , get a grip dude. I bought it, I played it for a short period of time now I will comment on it.
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
omg fyerwall you most be a god to know that all the aoc haters ar running top line pcs i douth that you have even played the game if thats the only things you can say
there bugs yes but nothing that kills this game
Ummm... werent you the one assuming that haters are playing with old systems? does that mean your a god aswell?
And yes, I have played the game (37 ranger Dagoth server) and played beta as well.
Lets see, where do I begin...
Hmmm... this is gonna be hard...
- Items had no stats from launch until tomorrows patch (assuming they dont screw that up as well)
- Quests are your standard FedEx quests
- Crafting is still fubar
- Where is all that great PvP fun? Oh yeah, coming in the next few months....
- Where the hell is my group? Ohhhh.... they are in instance 15 and I am in instance 27....
Think before you speak sir.
but i did not say eveyone i say abunch and i do know abunch of peeple personaly but you say most of our systems i did not say this game has no bugs but it is nice that you know what your talking about
Yup, spot on, I wouldn't even call it an MMO tbh, an online RPG at most
Then stop playing it like a Oblivion RPG and find yourself a guild to run with or friends to tag along with a help them out to level with you.
Alot of mmorpg.com members are nothing but hardcore solo players anyways.
<In my Opinion> MMO's are all about grouping and sharing adventures with your friends. But there is a new generation of players out there that want to solo the content and PL to level capp as soon as possible. Players want their characters to 1 shot BOSS'es and horde all the loot for themselves.
I know the mmo's are evolving, but with this new type of community, I am just glad I had days like Evercrack, Ultima Online and Dark of Camelot of having fun as a group and not as a person trying to rule a mmorpg.com with the I WIN button.
Stop posting garbage like this. I reached 55 so far by questing only. It really bugs me that someone will actually come to these forums for honest opinions and read this garbage.
lol.. I dont understand why all of a sudden mmorpg.com hatred has become an "issue"... Its happened to ALL the games here and will KEEP happening, yet all of a sudden the AoC fans find it extremely aggravating and dumb.. I bet these same AoC fans are the ones who constantly rip the vangaurd fans for liking their game.. You say AoC is a success, try convincing every one else of that.. No? Pointless? Then dont make posts like this..
For some reason I feel this is a case of the hunters being hunted.. And its HILARIOUS..
"lack of content after 20" Stop posting garbage like this. I reached 55 so far by questing only. It really bugs me that someone will actually come to these forums for honest opinions and read this garbage.
reach 80 by questing. then you can say anything you want.
as far as i now you will not be able to do that right now so LACK OF CONTENT AFTER 20 is right on the money.
but maybe you are thinking that level 60-80 come before 20.
Yup, spot on, I wouldn't even call it an MMO tbh, an online RPG at most
Then stop playing it like a Oblivion RPG and find yourself a guild to run with or friends to tag along with a help them out to level with you.
Alot of mmorpg.com members are nothing but hardcore solo players anyways.
Having a guild or a tight knit group of friends does not make an MMO. That makes like, an online game like Battlefield 2.
An MMO is all about COMMUNITY, and INTERACTION, and socializing with people due to necessity. Games that facilitate completely avoiding everyone you don't want to deal with works to remove this asset of MMOs. Its a running trend lately what with the heavy instancing and PUGs that are going around.
As for lack of content after 20... The newbie adventure is so fine tuned and wonderfully made. All the effort went into wowing the noobs. Then you leave, and the quests become boring, content dwindles, voice acting dries up.... No denying that, that's truth.
Originally posted by mcburly so what game has launched with all of its features and bug free cause ive never heard of one and I dont see the point in expecting something that no one has been able to perform yet.
LOTRO was as close to perfect of a launch as we'll ever see I'm afraid. It was nearly flawless.
This simply isnt true at all ... LotR had exactly the same problems you and others complain about when talking about AoC right now.
Start was polished but after that ...
It was a pain to level when you got above 38 since they didnt't had enough quests ready
Most high level quests where labeled wrong
Itemization was (and still is) poor
It had a meaningless Tradeskill system
No housing in
I could go on ...
Did I enjoyed it ... yes and I enjoy AoC
LotRO had as close to a flawless launch as we'll get in some time. I was there since Alpha and it ran better than most MMOs do months after launch.
As for the points you've highlighted, those are not the points again AoC. The points against AoC was the absolutely abysmal performance the game had up until the miracle patch right before launch, followed by the general poor quality of content after you leave Tortage, the broken city building system, the Battle Keep system that isn't even implemented, lack of spell weaving, lack of drunken brawling, all major systems that were promised that never got delivered. LotRO delivered all their promises.
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MMORPG's success is measured in retention so until a month or two has passed it is way to early to call AoC a success. If it has 500K or better subscribers by August then it will be a success.
As far as moving on , get a grip dude. I bought it, I played it for a short period of time now I will comment on it.
I miss DAoC
Here is the amazon.com user review roundup:
5 stars: 26 reviews
4 stars: 8 reviews
3 stars: 9 reviews
2 stars: 13 reviews
1 stars: 17 reviews
Now people can look at the numbers and make up their own mind about what this actually is telling us. Or they can go on to read the actual reviews for further clues.
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
its candy
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
Really? I'm glad to hear that simply upgrading ones graphics card will automatically make their stat system work, their Tier 3 cities open, their entire PvP system they promised install, the DX10 support show up, and for content past tortage to magically appear. I've really been waiting for someone to clear that up for me, thanks.
Perhaps YOU need to learn how to read what the haters are saying, and stop opening your mouth until you can actually make a response that makes sense.
then you must hate much everybody. because i wouldnot let any of my friends play it right now.
the best i can say at the moment is that maybe, let me say that again maybe it would be worth to check it out in 4-6 month. if frackcom is able to use that time to patch all the buggy stuffy.
The reason they dont want to read what most haters are saying is because they are trying to ignore the missing content/lack of game and keep telling themselves the game is in good shape. Pretty much being like an Ostrich sticking its head in the sand. If they dont see it/read it, its not there/true.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
There will continue to be crying/hating threads until they find a perfect MMO which will never happen because the haters expect a game to be absolutely perfect at release even though it hasn't happened in the history of a MMO, and everyone has a different idea of what a perfect MMO is. I do see some of these people with an agenda against AoC though, making or posting in many troll threads, which is pretty petty.
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
omg fyerwall you most be a god to know that all the aoc haters ar running top line pcs i douth that you have even played the game if thats the only things you can say
there bugs yes but nothing that kills this game
its candy
i totally agree
its candy
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
omg fyerwall you most be a god to know that all the aoc haters ar running top line pcs i douth that you have even played the game if thats the only things you can say
there bugs yes but nothing that kills this game
Ummm... werent you the one assuming that haters are playing with old systems? does that mean your a god aswell?
And yes, I have played the game (37 ranger Dagoth server) and played beta as well.
Lets see, where do I begin...
Hmmm... this is gonna be hard...
- Items had no stats from launch until tomorrows patch (assuming they dont screw that up as well)
- Quests are your standard FedEx quests
- Crafting is still fubar
- Where is all that great PvP fun? Oh yeah, coming in the next few months....
- Where the hell is my group? Ohhhh.... they are in instance 15 and I am in instance 27....
Think before you speak sir.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
i feel no hate for AOC. I love the Books I read all of them. I just feel disapointed by frackcom and their ever spining PR department.
i frackcom had released AOC in the 1940 in japan they would have had to do seppuku. to clean the shame nothing else would work.
nowdays everybody is a haters and nobody realy cares.
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
omg fyerwall you most be a god to know that all the aoc haters ar running top line pcs i douth that you have even played the game if thats the only things you can say
there bugs yes but nothing that kills this game
Ummm... werent you the one assuming that haters are playing with old systems? does that mean your a god aswell?
And yes, I have played the game (37 ranger Dagoth server) and played beta as well.
Lets see, where do I begin...
Hmmm... this is gonna be hard...
- Items had no stats from launch until tomorrows patch (assuming they dont screw that up as well)
- Quests are your standard FedEx quests
- Crafting is still fubar
- Where is all that great PvP fun? Oh yeah, coming in the next few months....
- Where the hell is my group? Ohhhh.... they are in instance 15 and I am in instance 27....
Think before you speak sir.
either you didnt really play the game or you just put your brain on timeout and let your mouth start talking
"Sometimes, things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. People are basically good. Honor, courage, virtue mean everything. Power and money, money and power mean nothing. Good always triumphs over evil. Love, True Love Never Dies."
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
omg fyerwall you most be a god to know that all the aoc haters ar running top line pcs i douth that you have even played the game if thats the only things you can say
there bugs yes but nothing that kills this game
Ummm... werent you the one assuming that haters are playing with old systems? does that mean your a god aswell?
And yes, I have played the game (37 ranger Dagoth server) and played beta as well.
Lets see, where do I begin...
Hmmm... this is gonna be hard...
- Items had no stats from launch until tomorrows patch (assuming they dont screw that up as well)
- Quests are your standard FedEx quests
- Crafting is still fubar
- Where is all that great PvP fun? Oh yeah, coming in the next few months....
- Where the hell is my group? Ohhhh.... they are in instance 15 and I am in instance 27....
Think before you speak sir.
either you didnt really play the game or you just put your brain on timeout and let your mouth start talking
Care to elaborate why?
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
One of the most successful launches? Its been plagued with nothing but problems. Issues with preorders, issues with performance, lack of content past 20, lack of 4 or so major features that were promised by the developers... And Funcom's marketing team is doing their best hyping it saying how many boxes they shipped, not how many sold. Brilliant strategy. And they say everything will be fixed "soon". Game wasn't ready to launch.
There will be a huge fall off rate, then you can say how successful it is.
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abunch of peeple bout this game and found out that there woodoo2 grafices card was just too old to run it so they desided to hate what they cant have
le sigh...
another "Your PC cant handle the game" line...
Sadly, game runs fine on most of our systems, its just the game is vaccant of really anything other than instances and bugs.
omg fyerwall you most be a god to know that all the aoc haters ar running top line pcs i douth that you have even played the game if thats the only things you can say
there bugs yes but nothing that kills this game
Ummm... werent you the one assuming that haters are playing with old systems? does that mean your a god aswell?
And yes, I have played the game (37 ranger Dagoth server) and played beta as well.
Lets see, where do I begin...
Hmmm... this is gonna be hard...
- Items had no stats from launch until tomorrows patch (assuming they dont screw that up as well)
- Quests are your standard FedEx quests
- Crafting is still fubar
- Where is all that great PvP fun? Oh yeah, coming in the next few months....
- Where the hell is my group? Ohhhh.... they are in instance 15 and I am in instance 27....
Think before you speak sir.
but i did not say eveyone i say abunch and i do know abunch of peeple personaly but you say most of our systems i did not say this game has no bugs but it is nice that you know what your talking about
well they ar fixing bugs you say that yourself
its candy
Then stop playing it like a Oblivion RPG and find yourself a guild to run with or friends to tag along with a help them out to level with you.
Alot of mmorpg.com members are nothing but hardcore solo players anyways.
<In my Opinion> MMO's are all about grouping and sharing adventures with your friends. But there is a new generation of players out there that want to solo the content and PL to level capp as soon as possible. Players want their characters to 1 shot BOSS'es and horde all the loot for themselves.
I know the mmo's are evolving, but with this new type of community, I am just glad I had days like Evercrack, Ultima Online and Dark of Camelot of having fun as a group and not as a person trying to rule a mmorpg.com with the I WIN button.
"lack of content after 20"
Stop posting garbage like this. I reached 55 so far by questing only. It really bugs me that someone will actually come to these forums for honest opinions and read this garbage.
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this game has missions out your ying yang
its candy
lol.. I dont understand why all of a sudden mmorpg.com hatred has become an "issue"... Its happened to ALL the games here and will KEEP happening, yet all of a sudden the AoC fans find it extremely aggravating and dumb.. I bet these same AoC fans are the ones who constantly rip the vangaurd fans for liking their game.. You say AoC is a success, try convincing every one else of that.. No? Pointless? Then dont make posts like this..
For some reason I feel this is a case of the hunters being hunted.. And its HILARIOUS..
reach 80 by questing. then you can say anything you want.
as far as i now you will not be able to do that right now so LACK OF CONTENT AFTER 20 is right on the money.
but maybe you are thinking that level 60-80 come before 20.
keep on dreaming
Then stop playing it like a Oblivion RPG and find yourself a guild to run with or friends to tag along with a help them out to level with you.
Alot of mmorpg.com members are nothing but hardcore solo players anyways.
Having a guild or a tight knit group of friends does not make an MMO. That makes like, an online game like Battlefield 2.
An MMO is all about COMMUNITY, and INTERACTION, and socializing with people due to necessity. Games that facilitate completely avoiding everyone you don't want to deal with works to remove this asset of MMOs. Its a running trend lately what with the heavy instancing and PUGs that are going around.
As for lack of content after 20... The newbie adventure is so fine tuned and wonderfully made. All the effort went into wowing the noobs. Then you leave, and the quests become boring, content dwindles, voice acting dries up.... No denying that, that's truth.
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LOTRO was as close to perfect of a launch as we'll ever see I'm afraid. It was nearly flawless.
This simply isnt true at all ... LotR had exactly the same problems you and others complain about when talking about AoC right now.
Start was polished but after that ...
Did I enjoyed it ... yes and I enjoy AoC
LotRO had as close to a flawless launch as we'll get in some time. I was there since Alpha and it ran better than most MMOs do months after launch.
As for the points you've highlighted, those are not the points again AoC. The points against AoC was the absolutely abysmal performance the game had up until the miracle patch right before launch, followed by the general poor quality of content after you leave Tortage, the broken city building system, the Battle Keep system that isn't even implemented, lack of spell weaving, lack of drunken brawling, all major systems that were promised that never got delivered. LotRO delivered all their promises.
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