Lord of the Rings Online: LotRO Nominated for Golden Joystick

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Turbine has announced that Lord of the Rings Online has been nominated for a Golden Joystick Award for Online Game of the Year.

LOTRO, the 2007 PC Game of Year, returns to this year’s Golden Joystick awards as a nominee for Online Game of the Year. Cast your vote (and tell your friends) at http://www.goldenjoystick.com! Thanks for your support!

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Zorvan

You LotRO players remember to be gracious when LotRO stomps AoC for the award.

patrikd23

Its funny to me that this game gets all sorts of rewards and prizes yet not many are playing it,  just shows how bad the game really is.

metalhead980

If i wasnt playing Eve like an addict i would actually start up Lotro again.

jarish

Originally posted by patrikd23


Its funny to me that this game gets all sorts of rewards and prizes yet not many are playing it,  just shows how bad the game really is.

 

Hahaha...that's really funny. You are have a good sense of humor.

/sarcasm off

 

Just goes to show you have no idea what you are talking about.

Garfunkel

LOTRO deserves it's place in the nominations but doesn't deserve to win IMO - it's a short-ride MMO due to the absence of PVP.

I played for 13 months in all. The first 4 months were fantastic as the story unfolded and were definitely worth every penny of the sub.

It tailed off in the later months - pitting myself against pre-programmed computer A.I. has limited long-term appeal and there were a mounting list of small annoyances that commulatively became more and more frustrating. Although they have gone some way to addressing these in recent months.

Monster Play was the reason I stuck with it for more than half my subscription but that is such a mess it's fun but only as a filler. I'm pretty sure that was it's original intention but it's not a filler if you want to develop a viable Creep.

But IMO Turbine shouldn't get an award for LOTRO unless it's the biggest missed opportunity.

If they had properly integrated factional PvP from the start who knows how far this game could have gone. It certainly could have made Blizzard worry. Lets face it, they had one of the best IP's to do that with but they choose to take it in another direction. Shame really. Who knows - maybe the wanted to but there was coding issues? PvE doesn't make the money that PvP does so there has to be some reasoning.

Evilsam

Can't you find a game with pvp in it that's worth a damn ?..Maybe Eve.

You knew before Lorto even went to closed beta that there wouldn't be pvp.Did you not comprehind what NO pvp ment ? More games have been either shut down or revamped because more people by far don't want the pvp gank fests .Remember UO..Pvp servers for games that offer them are the lowest populated ones running..with few if any exceptions.Eve not being considered,it seems to be the exception to the rule.

 there are some really good people that like pvp ..there are also the scum of the earth that come out to play pvp and they far out weigh the good people .

Lotro was and is a great game without pvp.Even the release of AoC didn't really hurt it.Servers are still well populated.No Their pvmp and no pvp has helped the game.there aren't the forum "balance" wars that dominate most games with pvp .the game is made for pve and it works.

Papadam

Originally posted by Garfunkel

If they had properly integrated factional PvP from the start who knows how far this game could have gone. It certainly could have made Blizzard worry. Lets face it, they had one of the best IP's to do that with but they choose to take it in another direction. Shame really. Who knows - maybe the wanted to but there was coding issues? PvE doesn't make the money that PvP does so there has to be some reasoning.

 

I think that PvMP is a nice compromise and Im glad that Turbine didnt whant to go the WoW way with PvP... Even if I agree with you that they could do much more with Monster play I dont think that Lotr is a good IP for factional PvP (even if alot of people do)... the reason is that factional PvP requires factions that are equal.. lets just put it this way: Orcs in LotrO are nothing like orcs in WoW.. they are not missunderstood.. they dont fight for a cause.. they are just henchmen to the dark lord and just do his bidding..

 

Just read the books and I think most people will realize why factional PvP does not fit the IP!

 

and on topic: Well deserved nominee

Garfunkel

Originally posted by Papadam

Originally posted by Garfunkel

If they had properly integrated factional PvP from the start who knows how far this game could have gone. It certainly could have made Blizzard worry. Lets face it, they had one of the best IP's to do that with but they choose to take it in another direction. Shame really. Who knows - maybe the wanted to but there was coding issues? PvE doesn't make the money that PvP does so there has to be some reasoning.

 

I think that PvMP is a nice compromise and Im glad that Turbine didnt whant to go the WoW way with PvP... Even if I agree with you that they could do much more with Monster play I dont think that Lotr is a good IP for factional PvP (even if alot of people do)... the reason is that factional PvP requires factions that are equal.. lets just put it this way: Orcs in LotrO are nothing like orcs in WoW.. they are not missunderstood.. they dont fight for a cause.. they are just henchmen to the dark lord and just do his bidding..

 

Just read the books and I think most people will realize why factional PvP does not fit the IP!

 

and on topic: Well deserved nominee

 

The point on the imbalance between creeps and freeps is well made but could have been scope for innovation instead of being side-stepped.

Off the top of my head, what about at level 10 your orc becomes a team of 2 orcs working in unison. At level 20 it becomes 3, allowing for greater tatics like flanking, and when grouping with other players the appearance would be that of a great unwashed horde with giant melle fights in a similar spirit to the books. There's a Korean MMO out now like this that gives you a party of 3 to play with instead of a single character - name escapes me for now though (looks like Lineage 2 graphically but don't they all).

To answer the comment on whether I knew LOTRO was pve before I started - of course I did and for a time that made a refeshing change.

My comments are made with hind sight and are what I would have like to have seen having played through the content and enjoyed it, rather than what my preconceptions were

lmaodoc

It's been a long year so far...



 

I don't know much about LoTRo, except that it has no pvp (from what I've read and heard), so: *dismissed*

 

The only thing that is the most prevelant in AoC seems to be the glitches and exploits, but they're continuing to improve at every turn, so: *validated*

 

Guild Wars... Where have you been all these years and why did I forget about my account?: *validated*

 

With it's 8th free expansion this year, and the hardest (but also most flavorful) pvp of any MMO to date: *validated*

 

What we need to look at is how far the games have improved the gaming community, and I'm definitely biased towards Eve-O with a 3 year tenure there already.  I give LoTRo a big "LoTok-ty-bb" this year, unless of course they pull another 3 years of content out of their rears.  GW and AoC are definitely canidates, old and new (respectively), but GW is and always will be for the kids.  AoC is for a bit more of a mature audience, and has HUGE ways of making the gamer stick around (i.e. making a town from the ground up).  Eve-O has that same feature, as one could spend several weeks just to deploy a space station, several more weeks setting up sovereignty to be able to put improvements into the station, and 2 days of 23/7 pvp losing it to the lag blob of 300 players raiding their area.  Due to the lag blob, I have to write you off Eve-O, unless of course you have another 2 dozen blade servers with load balancing optimised just for those 300+ player battles... *dismissed*





Thinking AoC will get it for being new and inovative, but then again, I only follow the content, not the awards.



~The Doc

Hashbrick

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Originally posted by Garfunkel
LOTRO deserves it's place in the nominations but doesn't deserve to win IMO - it's a short-ride MMO due to the absence of PVP.
I played for 13 months in all. The first 4 months were fantastic as the story unfolded and were definitely worth every penny of the sub.
It tailed off in the later months - pitting myself against pre-programmed computer A.I. has limited long-term appeal and there were a mounting list of small annoyances that commulatively became more and more frustrating. Although they have gone some way to addressing these in recent months.
Monster Play was the reason I stuck with it for more than half my subscription but that is such a mess it's fun but only as a filler. I'm pretty sure that was it's original intention but it's not a filler if you want to develop a viable Creep.
But IMO Turbine shouldn't get an award for LOTRO unless it's the biggest missed opportunity.
If they had properly integrated factional PvP from the start who knows how far this game could have gone. It certainly could have made Blizzard worry. Lets face it, they had one of the best IP's to do that with but they choose to take it in another direction. Shame really. Who knows - maybe the wanted to but there was coding issues? PvE doesn't make the money that PvP does so there has to be some reasoning.

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It never was meant for PvP it has been said over and over. To say a full PvE game doesn't make the money PvP does is complete lack of information on the subject of matter, remember EQ, yep thought so. That being said I frequently blame Turbine for tailoring to the low majority of PvPers and not keeping focus on the PvE game play, the reason the game was born, story.

Garfunkel

Originally posted by HashBrick


 

Originally posted by Garfunkel

LOTRO deserves it's place in the nominations but doesn't deserve to win IMO - it's a short-ride MMO due to the absence of PVP.

I played for 13 months in all. The first 4 months were fantastic as the story unfolded and were definitely worth every penny of the sub.

It tailed off in the later months - pitting myself against pre-programmed computer A.I. has limited long-term appeal and there were a mounting list of small annoyances that commulatively became more and more frustrating. Although they have gone some way to addressing these in recent months.

Monster Play was the reason I stuck with it for more than half my subscription but that is such a mess it's fun but only as a filler. I'm pretty sure that was it's original intention but it's not a filler if you want to develop a viable Creep.

But IMO Turbine shouldn't get an award for LOTRO unless it's the biggest missed opportunity.

If they had properly integrated factional PvP from the start who knows how far this game could have gone. It certainly could have made Blizzard worry. Lets face it, they had one of the best IP's to do that with but they choose to take it in another direction. Shame really. Who knows - maybe the wanted to but there was coding issues? PvE doesn't make the money that PvP does so there has to be some reasoning.

 

It never was meant for PvP it has been said over and over. To say a full PvE game doesn't make the money PvP does is complete lack of information on the subject of matter, remember EQ, yep thought so. That being said I frequently blame Turbine for tailoring to the low majority of PvPers and not keeping focus on the PvE game play, the reason the game was born, story.

 

I think you've missed my point. I tried to explain a bit more in my second post.

 

Obviously I knew it was PvE before I started playing (closed beta). I don’t buy games blindly I can’t afford to.

 

I’m not saying it should be made PvP now – I’m saying it should have been designed as such from the out-set.

 

It’s all hypothetical as it’s a done deal now. LOTRO is PvE all the way and will always be. You just have to play monster play for a few weeks and you realise the code isn’t optimised for PvP game play.

 

I would have liked to have seen something more PvP orientated done with the LOTR licence but that’s by the by now. After all it is about the war of the ring.

 

My point is that LOTRO is in the line up for the online game of the year.

It’s a great game that I enjoyed a lot whilst I played. But compared to others that have full PvP integration it gets linear at the end. PvE content never lasts as long as PvP content. IMO It’s missing an essential ingredient that would have made it a block-buster, and you shouldn’t get the top awards for getting it 80% right.

 

Slightly O/T but I’ve got to pick you up on saying ‘remember EQ’. Welcome to 8 years ago...