there is also an animation with my dual wielding macer.. as he hits a fatal proc he takes sooo long to finish the job that im takin extera damage from other mobs grrrrrrr...
you cant be hurt during fatalities bro. i prefer long fatalities because it gives more time to regen health and stamina.
you are wrong on this one.. as I can see my health go down as im waiting to throw someone down and smash them.. ive experienced it.. and made sure before i posted this... so dont tell me you cannot
Ok man im lvl 80 and have fatalitied many of times. I have one where i hit the guy, slash his chest when he falls to his knees, kick him over, put my foot on his chest, and dig my sword into his heart. This last a good 11 seconds and i just sit back and watch my health and stamina shoot up when i proc it. (my fatalities add a +150 stamina a sec buff for those of you who dont know)
I was even thinking of goin back to AO but now I have heard they pulled many people off this game to work on AoC (definatly needed) but for the thousands and thousands thatn have purchased this cant they afford to hire more people??? come on, if this is what we are in for in the way of progress we have months ahead to even get some items fixed... I just dont know where to go for gaming anymore.. something challenging...
The PvP servers are just gank fests with no risk/reward/penalty system in place. In what game is PvP not a gank fest? Ummmm, DAOC just to name one. The UI is the worst I have ever seen. It looks like an amateur created it at the last minute. No problem with the UI here. Make your own UI then if its such a problem. Nothing can be moved, resized, or customized. And even if a person knew how and wanted to they cant make their own because Funcom hasnt released the code or whatever to do it. And also because I shouldn't have to. Itemization is a joke. Most people look identical and wear brown paper bags. This isnt World Of Warcraft. Im sorry if you wnat to have some staff with flying stones floating around and some armor that has flames and dragons or something gay imo. When did I ever say I wanted WoW style armor? I hate that game and its armor. All I want is to look like a freakin barbarian and not a peasant for 80 levels. How about some studded armor, fur helmets, etc etc etc. Where the hell is the 1500 sets of armor they advertised? How about some 1h axes? I got my toon to lvl 52 and only saw a few 1h axes. Arent barbarians supposed to use axes? Hell the NPCs look great! Why cant we just get some of that armor? I would kill for a set of the barbarian armor like the NPCs wear in Conall Valley. Now they look like barbarians. Customer Service is a joke and for the most part non-existent. Petitions take days to resolve and get deleted. There is hardly any GM support. Again, going to compare WoW with this. When i played WoW, it sometimes took a week just to get a GM to talk to me. Stop comparing this game to WoW and assuming I am too. I hate WoW. and just because another company sucks at it I should put up with it in this game too? Gold Spammers are becoming rampant already. I have petitioned names and nothing is done. I still get tells and emails from people I reported a week ago. What game doesnt have Gold Spammers? Goto SW in WoW and 90% of your chatlog will be composed of people with names of 'sadasfafgad' spaming services. I played DAOC, COH, and a few other games that I recall seeing very little if any gold spam. While it is true most games have some gold spamming, it is minimal. I dont mind a tell every couple of hours or so. But when the same person sends tells 5 times an hour and you got 5 of them doing it then its a problem, especially when they have been reported numerous times for the past few weeks and Funcom has done absolutely nothing.
OP you hit the nail on the head. Your list is right on. Quests thin out in the upper 40s but get much worse in the upper 50s. I'm 57 now and I have a bunch of group quests I can't do because getting groups in this game is near impossible. I have a few orange quests that are too hard for me solo and I'm afraid to do them with help as I'm expecting that will make things even worse. The main thing that is left is doing villa quests over and over which I've done each of them 3-4 times and it is kinda old esp since there are no loot drops
Oh well.... I'm finding I'm being drawn to eq2 more and more.
Alright so i have a level 80 and a level 30, so here are my responses to your complaints I already responded about some of this stuff so will just reply to the ones I have not already answered in the thread above. Crafting is totally broken, gems bugged, gathering bugged, quests bugged. I have tier 3 gemcutting and tier 3 armorsmithing and havent run into any gathering bugs. The gemcutting bug is easily avoidable, just gotta know how to do it. My understanding is that Alchemy tier 1 stuff isntworking properly, people complaining about architects, the rare tier 2 quests for drops take forever especially the leather drops. tier 2 gem quest you have to log out an back in each time to get credit to name just a few. Stats are broken for both characters and armor. They dont do anything. A lvl 80 piece of armor is only marginally better than a lvl 20. No idea what youre talking about here. I did an epic kheshatta run (lvl 75-80 zone) last night for like 4 hours and boosted all my stats (attributes, resistances/immunities, DPS, armor, etc.) by quite a bit. It shows on your character sheet, but that doesnt mean it actually does anything in game. Read the forums, people are complaining that naked toons are doing as much dmg as the armored ones with all these stat boosts. Graphics are buggy. So many clipping issues with armor and stuff its very sloppy looking. Looks fine to me, beyond fine actually. Beats the cartoony asian MMOs any day. And they are continuely fixing the issues you speak off every week. Again I hate the cartoony stuff too. I am not referring to the texture or style of the graphics. Those are excellent. What I am specifically referring to is clipping issues. Hair sticking thru helmets, shields 5 inches off the back, arms sticking thru the sleeves. Heads sticking thru the top of helmets. Stuff like that makes it look very sloppy. In all the mmos I have every played AOC has the worst clipping issues. Dungeons are bugged. Negative, Ive ran about 12 dungeons. Only thing clsoe to buggy I have come across was the fact that they havent filled one of them with mobs yet. Which im fine with since you can just do boss runs I guess you never went into the Pyramid then? Most of the quests are broken and the mobs are buggy as hell. Also in the Tortage zone the outdoor dungeon mobs were bugged too. I think it was called Acharonian Ruins. Field of the Dead had some major issues too but I think they fixed most of them. Many quests are bugged. On my road to 80 i came across 4 bugged quests, 2 have been fixed since i read in patch notes. I came across 4 bugged quests in Pyramid alone. The last 3 patches has also really, really nerfed the FPS of the game. At release I was getting 50-60 fps in the open field zones and now I am down to about 20-30. Also, they have serious latency and lag issues with lag spikes up to 5 minutes! I dont know how many times I sat there and watched my toon die in combat to a mob 4 levels below me because my lag meter was in the red. Get a better comp. I run on below recommended specs on high and get 40-50 fps. And the five minute lag spike you speak of is the instance shutting down due to lack of traffic or technical issue. which you just disconnect and relog. I have a nice custom built gaming comp I got for christmas well above the recommended specs thank you. And the lags spikes are not instances shutting down or a result of my computer. Its a problem on Funcoms end. Read the forum they have a thread about it. And disconnecting and relogging gets freaking annoying if you have to do it 20 times an hour. Travel is a joke. Running is very slow and horses barely run faster than humans prompting most people travel by suicide to get across maps because there is no other option. Again, they are goin for realism here. Sorry, no griffons you can ride on or floating boats. And horses are a heck of a lot faster than running. Realism? Lol horses running only marginally faster than a man is realistic? Last time I checked a horse in real life could run about 20x as fast as a man. And no I dont want the gay WoW griffons either. Just REALISTIC mounts that travel faster than a man can run. Customer Service is a joke and for the most part non-existent. Petitions take days to resolve and get deleted. There is hardly any GM support. Its not to bad. I had an issue to deal with, my petition started 98th in line and they got to me in 90 minutes. You were one of the lucky ones then. For many people their petitions just get deleted. I petitioned maybe 5 times and was less than 30th in line and stayed on and played for 4-8 hours after sending it and never got a GM response. I would log on again the next day and get an offline message saying they deleted my petition and to resubmit it. Like I can stay online 24 hours a day or something? Get real. Content is lacking the higher up you get. Quests thin out after level 50 and you are forced to grind to level up. (I am quitting at lvl 52). Theyre adding a few zones for this soon. and grinding is not bad if you get in groups and AOE grind. Soon? Lol you wont see that new zone or any of those quests until the end off summer at the earliest. Give the game a few months and it will be flawless. Lol you never played the Other Funcom game Anarchy Offline did you? It took them probably a year and a half to get that game working properly and even today it is far from flawless.
I have tier 3 gemcutting and tier 3 armorsmithing and havent run into any gathering bugs. The gemcutting bug is easily avoidable, just gotta know how to do it.
LOL. I adore you. Your patience is godly and you seem to not have any pain barrier. Well, maybe you are the designated guild armorer with 100% support from the guild. Read: They give you all you need.
I am 53 and my guild now needs T2 wood, stone ect. I cant help them since there is no tin, no ebon ash and no bridled leather. Well, its there and not bugged, but not for me. /shrugs
I cant hunt level 25ish animals anymore. I d die from boredom if i kill just one more wolf. Since they changed greys i need 4-8 arrows for a wolf 30 levels below me. Before the changes i one-shoted them. No, i cant kill wolves anymore without taking brain damage.
And the silk... how did you survive the silk grind ? If your guild didnt give it to you and you really gathered them all, then all i can do is
Alright so i have a level 80 and a level 30, so here are my responses to your complaints Here is a list of whats wrong: PvP is mostly broken especially on PvE servers. Keeps dont work/cant be built, etc, etc, etc. The PvP servers are just gank fests with no risk/reward/penalty system in place. PvP is not broken, its just that no one plays the minigames because there are no pvp rewards yet. Whooptydo WoW didnt have PvP for a year. Crafting is totally broken, gems bugged, gathering bugged, quests bugged. I have tier 3 gemcutting and tier 3 armorsmithing and havent run into any gathering bugs. The gemcutting bug is easily avoidable, just gotta know how to do it. Classes are not balanced and the nerf bat is swinging wildly. Many classes have broken skills still. Here, I agree with you. But then again, its been a month and they have already made some modifications. it aughta be pretty balanced within the next month or so. The UI is the worst I have ever seen. It looks like an amateur created it at the last minute. Uh... what is wrong with the UI? its perfectly fine and easy to use. Itemization is a joke. Most people look identical and wear brown paper bags. They didnt make this game all fantasy like as other MMOs have. They like realism, and running around in flaming armor and whatnot is kinda dumb. Stats are broken for both characters and armor. They dont do anything. A lvl 80 piece of armor is only marginally better than a lvl 20. No idea what youre talking about here. I did an epic kheshatta run (lvl 75-80 zone) last night for like 4 hours and boosted all my stats (attributes, resistances/immunities, DPS, armor, etc.) by quite a bit. Graphics are buggy. So many clipping issues with armor and stuff its very sloppy looking. Looks fine to me, beyond fine actually. Beats the cartoony asian MMOs any day. And they are continuely fixing the issues you speak off every week. Dungeons are bugged. Negative, Ive ran about 12 dungeons. Only thing clsoe to buggy I have come across was the fact that they havent filled one of them with mobs yet. Which im fine with since you can just do boss runs Many quests are bugged. On my road to 80 i came across 4 bugged quests, 2 have been fixed since i read in patch notes. The last 3 patches has also really, really nerfed the FPS of the game. At release I was getting 50-60 fps in the open field zones and now I am down to about 20-30. Also, they have serious latency and lag issues with lag spikes up to 5 minutes! I dont know how many times I sat there and watched my toon die in combat to a mob 4 levels below me because my lag meter was in the red. Get a better comp. I run on below recommended specs on high and get 40-50 fps. And the five minute lag spike you speak of is the instance shutting down due to lack of traffic or technical issue. which you just disconnect and relog. Travel is a joke. Running is very slow and horses barely run faster than humans prompting most people travel by suicide to get across maps because there is no other option. Again, they are goin for realism here. Sorry, no griffons you can ride on or floating boats. And horses are a heck of a lot faster than running. Customer Service is a joke and for the most part non-existent. Petitions take days to resolve and get deleted. There is hardly any GM support. Its not to bad. I had an issue to deal with, my petition started 98th in line and they got to me in 90 minutes. Gold Spammers are becoming rampant already. I have petitioned names and nothing is done. I still get tells and emails from people I reported a week ago. Whats new? Content is lacking the higher up you get. Quests thin out after level 50 and you are forced to grind to level up. (I am quitting at lvl 52). Theyre adding a few zones for this soon. and grinding is not bad if you get in groups and AOE grind. There are also so many display bugs. Inventory items "dissapear" .Items dont show up on the trader, Items dont have mouse over stats, half the time you dont know what your item is.etc, etc, etc. Never came across any of this so i have no clue what youre talkin about. When you are on the verge of crashing sometimes you cant see the items stats, but theyre there. In addition to all this, Funcom is for the most part non-responsive to any issues on their forums. And in the last week or so the moderators have come down hard, deleting any negative posts or moving them to obscure places on the site where nobody will read them. I dont read funcom forums. They seem to be listening to customers though. theyre adding new zones, adding a "prison"like concept, etc.
Give the game a few months and it will be flawless.
why waste all your time replying to him Tidwell no matter what you do you wont win.
Originally posted by Spathotan The simplest way to put this, is like this. Buying a used/refurbished 360 is on the same plane as sharing a condom in a gangbang with strangers.
Customer Service is a joke and for the most part non-existent. Petitions take days to resolve and get deleted. There is hardly any GM support. Its not to bad. I had an issue to deal with, my petition started 98th in line and they got to me in 90 minutes.
Are you serious? I have to call BS on this one, if you were really 98th in line then that would take at least 3-4 hours minimum. I've petitioned twice and the first time I was like 105th, and that one took 6 hours to get to me. The other time I was on late at night, and was 37th in line. At 37th it took a little over 2 1/2 hours. To say you only waited for 90 minutes is absurd, especially considering that if someone is getting harassed and petitions, they get ahead of you in line making your wait even longer. Unless you play on a PVE server.
And about the itemization - Funcom may have gone for a realistic look, but it's too ordinary. They need to get more creative with the armor and clothes design, and maybe even make more social clothing and what not that isn't only available in Tortage. Man-skirts are gay as hell imo, and the game is just jam packed full of them. I would rather wear a set of full plate greaves that are purple than wear a man-skirt for 80 levels. But that's just me.
Oh yea I forgot to mention -when I petitioned those 2 times, I never actually talked to anyone. The first time my petition was deleted when it was my turn without a word, and the second time it timed out when I was #2 in line. They have the absolute worst CS I have ever experienced, I pray that you never need help from a GM for something that isn't "OMG this guy is harassing me, can you stop him? /sniffle"
The OP's replies to the fanbois are right on the money.
I don't understand why the fanbois always accuse people who want a wider variety of gear models of wanting WoW style armor. We are not asking for eyeballs in the shoulders or blue crystal hammers. However, a slightly different color of brown skirt every ten levels is just down right un-creative.
I played one character to 63 and one to 46. I cancelled and uninstalled last week. There is no way this game will be playable for at least 6 months, and knowing funcom, that means 1.5 years.
I really don't find it amazing how much stuff is broken , It's quite the norm as far as MMO"S go . Here is what I find amazing , So many people seem to demand a completely finshed MMO upon it's release . If you have such expectations why would you buy the game in its first few months in the first place? Just to have something to complain about?
Considering the game worked on launch day ,They delivered about the best you can expect from an MMO dev team (quite a few haven't even accomplished this).
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I really don't find it amazing how much stuff is broken , It's quite the norm as far as MMO"S go . Here is what I find amazing , So many people seem to demand a completely finshed MMO upon it's release . If you have such expectations why would you buy the game in its first few months in the first place? Just to have something to complain about? Considering the game worked on launch day ,They delivered about the best you can expect from an MMO dev team (quite a few haven't even accomplished this).
This is going to be the... fourth time today posting something similar to what I'm about to enlighten you about.
Female gender. Broken. At Launch. Beta.
Actually, never mind beta, I've never seen a game in alpha that had a whole gender broken, how the f*ck?
I really don't find it amazing how much stuff is broken , It's quite the norm as far as MMO"S go . Here is what I find amazing , So many people seem to demand a completely finshed MMO upon it's release . If you have such expectations why would you buy the game in its first few months in the first place? Just to have something to complain about? Considering the game worked on launch day ,They delivered about the best you can expect from an MMO dev team (quite a few haven't even accomplished this).
This is going to be the... fourth time today posting something similar to what I'm about to enlighten you about.
Female gender. Broken. At Launch. Beta.
Actually, never mind beta, I've never seen a game in alpha that had a whole gender broken, how the f*ck?
What does that have to do with what I posted?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I really don't find it amazing how much stuff is broken , It's quite the norm as far as MMO"S go . Here is what I find amazing , So many people seem to demand a completely finshed MMO upon it's release . If you have such expectations why would you buy the game in its first few months in the first place? Just to have something to complain about? Considering the game worked on launch day ,They delivered about the best you can expect from an MMO dev team (quite a few haven't even accomplished this).
This is going to be the... fourth time today posting something similar to what I'm about to enlighten you about.
Female gender. Broken. At Launch. Beta.
Actually, never mind beta, I've never seen a game in alpha that had a whole gender broken, how the f*ck?
What does that have to do with what I posted?
You want me to spell it out for you? Ok.
The point is not all of us is demanding a finished, complete, flawless game. However, we do want a level of quality that is expected at launch. All these broken things should be caught in alpha testing, let alone beta. Apparently AoC had neither of these phases.
I really don't find it amazing how much stuff is broken , It's quite the norm as far as MMO"S go . Here is what I find amazing , So many people seem to demand a completely finshed MMO upon it's release . If you have such expectations why would you buy the game in its first few months in the first place? Just to have something to complain about? Considering the game worked on launch day ,They delivered about the best you can expect from an MMO dev team (quite a few haven't even accomplished this).
This is going to be the... fourth time today posting something similar to what I'm about to enlighten you about.
Female gender. Broken. At Launch. Beta.
Actually, never mind beta, I've never seen a game in alpha that had a whole gender broken, how the f*ck?
What does that have to do with what I posted?
You want me to spell it out for you? Ok.
The point is not all of us is demanding a finished, complete, flawless game. However, we do want a level of quality that is expected at launch. All these broken things should be caught in alpha testing, let alone beta. Apparently AoC had neither of these phases.
And I'll spell it out again for you , You made the decision to buy the game when you did . Had you done any research before hand I'm sure you could have discovered it might not have been ready for launch . If you have problems with paying to beta you should have waited until the game was within your threshhold of tolerance .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
So basically you are blaming the consumer for being duped by Funcom? You talk like at any time funcom was forthcoming about any of these problems, heck from what I here they went through great pains to keep beta testers under a NDA until launch day why would a company need to do that? If not to decieve the people they are expecting to buy there game?
In closing in case any of you were unaware if you all stop buying beta games and paying subs for them companies will stop putting them out I couldn't imagine buying a brand new Jag only to go flying down the freeway and find out at 60 mph the brakes don't work and it would be especially disturbing to find out that Jaguar knew this would happen but just didn't tell me so as to start getting my money asap
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
This is a bit reminiscent of SWG. The beta testers warned it was not ready but they launched anyway. After releasing too early, they then attempt to catch up with patches not adequately tested, consequently breaking more stuff in the process of fixing things. The nerf bat starts swinging. Things that need to be fixed are ignored, and things that people don't ask for or want get put into the game. A complete disconnect occurs between community and developers.
There are some noteable exceptions. SWG was much more complex programming wise, and the developers were a lot more talented. So far, all Funcom has shown me is pretty graphics and nice sound track and that's about it. They have talented artists, to be sure. But there is nothing ingame that displays talent or skill from the programmers. They are weak, and in my opinion scared sh*tless because they don't know what they hell they are doing.
Other exception is communication. SWG made a lot of promises which they then proceeded to break rather regularly, ultimately culminating in the NGE. AOC on the contrary has decided only to make grandiose promises about once a month to string people along. Otherwise, they are eerily silent, also in my opinion, indicative of fear. Everything they touch breaks are makes people pissed.
They are weak, and in my opinion scared sh*tless because they don't know what they hell they are doing.
A few quotes from Scott Hartsmann...
[...] All the clichés and matras apply. "Polish, polish, polish," Hartsman repeats. Later he spits out the fabled "quality of quantity". They all point to the same trend. Gamers will no longer accept a hacked together game just because it's an MMO. World of Warcraft changed that dynamic forever.
"Polish means we live or we die," Hartsman admitted candidly. He talked about the time before that fateful Christmas season of 2004 when developers routinely published their "first draft" MMOs. He pointed out that budgets and marketing often directed development cycles and betas were all too often about a last gasp before launch, when in reality, a team should have finished the game before it hits beta so that they're free to iterate and react to feedback.
[...]
Hartsman also touted his teams recent shift towards increased community feedback. Players like to be asked and designers at SOE have become increasingly comfortable with asking them. It's a dangerous game - Hartsman was especially uncomfortable with the idea that something pitched on the boards may be perceived as a promise rather than an idea - but one worth playing. It's valuable, if not the only source of feedback for the team that they have begun to use more and more often.
[...]
Part of the reason for the success of EQII is that all of the Dev Team actually plays the game. They know how changes affect classes, guilds, playstyles… because they are in the thick of it, playing characters they worked up from scratch, under "real-world" conditions. They bring this knowledge and love of the game to every meeting.
I really don't find it amazing how much stuff is broken , It's quite the norm as far as MMO"S go . Here is what I find amazing , So many people seem to demand a completely finshed MMO upon it's release . If you have such expectations why would you buy the game in its first few months in the first place? Just to have something to complain about? Considering the game worked on launch day ,They delivered about the best you can expect from an MMO dev team (quite a few haven't even accomplished this).
The market is not yet void of games perfectly, buglessly running at release. 2 examples: LOTRO and Guild Wars.
I agree that people should stop buying and preordering games when they haven't played the open beta or the free trial for a couple of weeks and they are completely satisfied with the game's state (this is what I did with LOTRO). Hype is the worst thing that can happen to games, and sadly, it most often does
BTW: I know I'm not even able to follow my thoughts on this, as I have purchased AoC in a sudden rush of madness - but I expected a system hog bugfest, and I was pleasantly surprised. I can't say if I spent my 50 EUR well or not yet, but I cancelled my sub already, with the hope of being able to renew it after a couple of months. There had been games in the past that had been released as bugfests, running like crap on average PC's, but were fixed slowly (EQ2 to name one) - I still keep on wishing that the "early release, will fix later" phenomena will die out soon
But it is we, the customers who can help to achieve that, by not buying anything that is not *finished*.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
A lot of the "broken" stuff actually isnt broken and a lot of the unimplemented stuff is just "broken". For example, castle sieges are in, just somewhat broken and theyre fixing them already. Content is in (and from my experience theres more than enough of it) and theyre working on more.
The UI is the worst I have ever seen. It looks like an amateur created it at the last minute. No problem with the UI here. Make your own UI then if its such a problem. Nothing can be moved, resized, or customized. And even if a person knew how and wanted to they cant make their own because Funcom hasnt released the code or whatever to do it. And also because I shouldn't have to. ---------------------------------------------------- I enjoy the game; although,I'm not a rabid fan boy, but Chainmail I have to call BS here. Yes, the UI is not the prettiest out there, but all the functionality is. You appartently have not even tried.
Nothing can be moved. I have four seperate chat boxes open and organized by similiar tabs. These are completely seperated from eachother and not just different tabs within the same box.
Group and Say in the left corner; Guild, OOC, Regional, etc in the right corner; Tell by itself in the upper left; Combat and System in the upper right.
And I'm using the Mirage UI custom interface, because I like what they've done for the hotkeys. Here, would you even like a link - Mirage UI
Next time, try clicking on the "white triangle" and the "Astrix" on the left and right side of the chat box. You will see a variety of options to customize things. They even sent out a letter stating that they will be fine tuning, adding and tweaking the interface more in the near future. Which I agree, it needs.
Nothing can be resized. Again, click the magic "White Triangle" on the left-hand side of the chat box. Make sure the "click through" and "Stickied/Docked" options are not checked. Now move your mouse to sides and corners of the chat interface. Looky! We can resize everything!
Nothing can be customized. Woopps, went alittle out of order. See Mirage UI above. O.. and this link - Guide: AOC UI and Mods and this one - AoCWiki
So, yes, Chainmail it may not be pretty, but it does function with all necessities of a chat interface and there is alot that Funcom needs to get done. Although, I have never seen an MMO a month into release that didn't have some sort of issue. Even LotR had issues with people screaming for content weeks and months after it first released, but everyone's forgotten or turned a blind eye.
In either case, I'm having fun in AoC and from what I've seen I like the direction they're going. They're getting my monthly pennies to help them along.
The UI is the worst I have ever seen. It looks like an amateur created it at the last minute.
No problem with the UI here. Make your own UI then if its such a problem.
Nothing can be moved, resized, or customized. And even if a person knew how and wanted to they cant make their own because Funcom hasnt released the code or whatever to do it. And also because I shouldn't have to.
I enjoy the game; although,I'm not a rabid fan boy, but Chainmail I have to call BS here.
Yes, the UI is not the prettiest out there, but all the functionality is. You appartently have not even tried. Nothing can be moved.
I have four seperate chat boxes open and organized by similiar tabs. These are completely seperated from eachother and not just different tabs within the same box. Group and Say in the left corner;
Guild, OOC, Regional, etc in the right corner;
Tell by itself in the upper left;
Combat and System in the upper right. And I'm using the Mirage UI custom interface, because I like what they've done for the hotkeys.
Here, would you even like a link - Mirage UI Next time, try clicking on the "white triangle" and the "Astrix" on the left and right side of the chat box. You will see a variety of options to customize things. They even sent out a letter stating that they will be fine tuning, adding and tweaking the interface more in the near future. Which I agree, it needs. Nothing can be resized.
Again, click the magic "White Triangle" on the left-hand side of the chat box. Make sure the "click through" and "Stickied/Docked" options are not checked. Now move your mouse to sides and corners of the chat interface. Looky! We can resize everything! Nothing can be customized.
Woopps, went alittle out of order. See Mirage UI above.
and this one - AoCWiki So, yes, Chainmail it may not be pretty, but it does function with all necessities of a chat interface... Umm, yes I have tried. I also tried all the mods out Mirage, Profit and 2 or 3 of the others on Curse.com. Is the UI functional? yes. Is it customizable? definitely not. A supposedely next gen game should have a much better UI than just functional. I'm sorry, but being able to move around the chat box does not count. Can you move the radar, main hotbars, spell icons, etc etc etc....Nope. Can you create simple macros and attach them to bind keys to put on your hotbar? Nope. Can you add nice little gadgets? Nope. This is what a customizable UI is and any "next gen" mmo needs to have this functionality in order to be considered on par with the other popular mmos out now because most of them have these features. Slapping together a very basic UI does not cut if for a game of this supposed calibur.
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you cant be hurt during fatalities bro. i prefer long fatalities because it gives more time to regen health and stamina.
you are wrong on this one.. as I can see my health go down as im waiting to throw someone down and smash them.. ive experienced it.. and made sure before i posted this... so dont tell me you cannot
Ok man im lvl 80 and have fatalitied many of times. I have one where i hit the guy, slash his chest when he falls to his knees, kick him over, put my foot on his chest, and dig my sword into his heart. This last a good 11 seconds and i just sit back and watch my health and stamina shoot up when i proc it. (my fatalities add a +150 stamina a sec buff for those of you who dont know)
I was even thinking of goin back to AO but now I have heard they pulled many people off this game to work on AoC (definatly needed) but for the thousands and thousands thatn have purchased this cant they afford to hire more people??? come on, if this is what we are in for in the way of progress we have months ahead to even get some items fixed... I just dont know where to go for gaming anymore.. something challenging...
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OP you hit the nail on the head. Your list is right on. Quests thin out in the upper 40s but get much worse in the upper 50s. I'm 57 now and I have a bunch of group quests I can't do because getting groups in this game is near impossible. I have a few orange quests that are too hard for me solo and I'm afraid to do them with help as I'm expecting that will make things even worse. The main thing that is left is doing villa quests over and over which I've done each of them 3-4 times and it is kinda old esp since there are no loot drops
Oh well.... I'm finding I'm being drawn to eq2 more and more.
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here is a good cliping issue. your cloak cuts straight down through your horses body. ouch.
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LOL. I adore you. Your patience is godly and you seem to not have any pain barrier. Well, maybe you are the designated guild armorer with 100% support from the guild. Read: They give you all you need.
I am 53 and my guild now needs T2 wood, stone ect. I cant help them since there is no tin, no ebon ash and no bridled leather. Well, its there and not bugged, but not for me. /shrugs
I cant hunt level 25ish animals anymore. I d die from boredom if i kill just one more wolf. Since they changed greys i need 4-8 arrows for a wolf 30 levels below me. Before the changes i one-shoted them. No, i cant kill wolves anymore without taking brain damage.
And the silk... how did you survive the silk grind ? If your guild didnt give it to you and you really gathered them all, then all i can do is
Give the game a few months and it will be flawless.
Sorry as a 5+ year FunCom customer I can tell you the "few months" you're waiting will turn into a year and than some.
why waste all your time replying to him Tidwell no matter what you do you wont win.
Are you serious? I have to call BS on this one, if you were really 98th in line then that would take at least 3-4 hours minimum. I've petitioned twice and the first time I was like 105th, and that one took 6 hours to get to me. The other time I was on late at night, and was 37th in line. At 37th it took a little over 2 1/2 hours. To say you only waited for 90 minutes is absurd, especially considering that if someone is getting harassed and petitions, they get ahead of you in line making your wait even longer. Unless you play on a PVE server.
And about the itemization - Funcom may have gone for a realistic look, but it's too ordinary. They need to get more creative with the armor and clothes design, and maybe even make more social clothing and what not that isn't only available in Tortage. Man-skirts are gay as hell imo, and the game is just jam packed full of them. I would rather wear a set of full plate greaves that are purple than wear a man-skirt for 80 levels. But that's just me.
Oh yea I forgot to mention -when I petitioned those 2 times, I never actually talked to anyone. The first time my petition was deleted when it was my turn without a word, and the second time it timed out when I was #2 in line. They have the absolute worst CS I have ever experienced, I pray that you never need help from a GM for something that isn't "OMG this guy is harassing me, can you stop him? /sniffle"
Nothing wrong with this great game, haven't seen any major bugs mostly minor stuff.
If any bugs I spotted then Funcom have fixed with within a week. Also must agree to many skirts lol.
All in all great game and its still holding my interest, have resubscribed for six month and see how it goes.
My reccomendation is buy and enjoy, you'l not regret it.
The OP is right on the money.
The OP's replies to the fanbois are right on the money.
I don't understand why the fanbois always accuse people who want a wider variety of gear models of wanting WoW style armor. We are not asking for eyeballs in the shoulders or blue crystal hammers. However, a slightly different color of brown skirt every ten levels is just down right un-creative.
I played one character to 63 and one to 46. I cancelled and uninstalled last week. There is no way this game will be playable for at least 6 months, and knowing funcom, that means 1.5 years.
I really don't find it amazing how much stuff is broken , It's quite the norm as far as MMO"S go . Here is what I find amazing , So many people seem to demand a completely finshed MMO upon it's release . If you have such expectations why would you buy the game in its first few months in the first place? Just to have something to complain about?
Considering the game worked on launch day ,They delivered about the best you can expect from an MMO dev team (quite a few haven't even accomplished this).
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This is going to be the... fourth time today posting something similar to what I'm about to enlighten you about.
Female gender. Broken. At Launch. Beta.
Actually, never mind beta, I've never seen a game in alpha that had a whole gender broken, how the f*ck?
This is going to be the... fourth time today posting something similar to what I'm about to enlighten you about.
Female gender. Broken. At Launch. Beta.
Actually, never mind beta, I've never seen a game in alpha that had a whole gender broken, how the f*ck?
What does that have to do with what I posted?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This is going to be the... fourth time today posting something similar to what I'm about to enlighten you about.
Female gender. Broken. At Launch. Beta.
Actually, never mind beta, I've never seen a game in alpha that had a whole gender broken, how the f*ck?
What does that have to do with what I posted?
You want me to spell it out for you? Ok.
The point is not all of us is demanding a finished, complete, flawless game. However, we do want a level of quality that is expected at launch. All these broken things should be caught in alpha testing, let alone beta. Apparently AoC had neither of these phases.
This is going to be the... fourth time today posting something similar to what I'm about to enlighten you about.
Female gender. Broken. At Launch. Beta.
Actually, never mind beta, I've never seen a game in alpha that had a whole gender broken, how the f*ck?
What does that have to do with what I posted?
You want me to spell it out for you? Ok.
The point is not all of us is demanding a finished, complete, flawless game. However, we do want a level of quality that is expected at launch. All these broken things should be caught in alpha testing, let alone beta. Apparently AoC had neither of these phases.
And I'll spell it out again for you , You made the decision to buy the game when you did . Had you done any research before hand I'm sure you could have discovered it might not have been ready for launch . If you have problems with paying to beta you should have waited until the game was within your threshhold of tolerance .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
So basically you are blaming the consumer for being duped by Funcom? You talk like at any time funcom was forthcoming about any of these problems, heck from what I here they went through great pains to keep beta testers under a NDA until launch day why would a company need to do that? If not to decieve the people they are expecting to buy there game?
In closing in case any of you were unaware if you all stop buying beta games and paying subs for them companies will stop putting them out I couldn't imagine buying a brand new Jag only to go flying down the freeway and find out at 60 mph the brakes don't work and it would be especially disturbing to find out that Jaguar knew this would happen but just didn't tell me so as to start getting my money asap
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
This is a bit reminiscent of SWG. The beta testers warned it was not ready but they launched anyway. After releasing too early, they then attempt to catch up with patches not adequately tested, consequently breaking more stuff in the process of fixing things. The nerf bat starts swinging. Things that need to be fixed are ignored, and things that people don't ask for or want get put into the game. A complete disconnect occurs between community and developers.
There are some noteable exceptions. SWG was much more complex programming wise, and the developers were a lot more talented. So far, all Funcom has shown me is pretty graphics and nice sound track and that's about it. They have talented artists, to be sure. But there is nothing ingame that displays talent or skill from the programmers. They are weak, and in my opinion scared sh*tless because they don't know what they hell they are doing.
Other exception is communication. SWG made a lot of promises which they then proceeded to break rather regularly, ultimately culminating in the NGE. AOC on the contrary has decided only to make grandiose promises about once a month to string people along. Otherwise, they are eerily silent, also in my opinion, indicative of fear. Everything they touch breaks are makes people pissed.
A few quotes from Scott Hartsmann...
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All the clichés and matras apply. "Polish, polish, polish," Hartsman repeats. Later he spits out the fabled "quality of quantity". They all point to the same trend. Gamers will no longer accept a hacked together game just because it's an MMO. World of Warcraft changed that dynamic forever.
"Polish means we live or we die," Hartsman admitted candidly. He talked about the time before that fateful Christmas season of 2004 when developers routinely published their "first draft" MMOs. He pointed out that budgets and marketing often directed development cycles and betas were all too often about a last gasp before launch, when in reality, a team should have finished the game before it hits beta so that they're free to iterate and react to feedback.
[...]
Hartsman also touted his teams recent shift towards increased community feedback. Players like to be asked and designers at SOE have become increasingly comfortable with asking them. It's a dangerous game - Hartsman was especially uncomfortable with the idea that something pitched on the boards may be perceived as a promise rather than an idea - but one worth playing. It's valuable, if not the only source of feedback for the team that they have begun to use more and more often.
[...]
Part of the reason for the success of EQII is that all of the Dev Team actually plays the game. They know how changes affect classes, guilds, playstyles… because they are in the thick of it, playing characters they worked up from scratch, under "real-world" conditions. They bring this knowledge and love of the game to every meeting.
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The market is not yet void of games perfectly, buglessly running at release. 2 examples: LOTRO and Guild Wars.
I agree that people should stop buying and preordering games when they haven't played the open beta or the free trial for a couple of weeks and they are completely satisfied with the game's state (this is what I did with LOTRO). Hype is the worst thing that can happen to games, and sadly, it most often does
BTW: I know I'm not even able to follow my thoughts on this, as I have purchased AoC in a sudden rush of madness
- but I expected a system hog bugfest, and I was pleasantly surprised. I can't say if I spent my 50 EUR well or not yet, but I cancelled my sub already, with the hope of being able to renew it after a couple of months. There had been games in the past that had been released as bugfests, running like crap on average PC's, but were fixed slowly (EQ2 to name one) - I still keep on wishing that the "early release, will fix later" phenomena will die out soon 
But it is we, the customers who can help to achieve that, by not buying anything that is not *finished*.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
A lot of the "broken" stuff actually isnt broken and a lot of the unimplemented stuff is just "broken". For example, castle sieges are in, just somewhat broken and theyre fixing them already. Content is in (and from my experience theres more than enough of it) and theyre working on more.
The UI is the worst I have ever seen. It looks like an amateur created it at the last minute.
No problem with the UI here. Make your own UI then if its such a problem.
Nothing can be moved, resized, or customized. And even if a person knew how and wanted to they cant make their own because Funcom hasnt released the code or whatever to do it. And also because I shouldn't have to.
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I enjoy the game; although,I'm not a rabid fan boy, but Chainmail I have to call BS here.
Yes, the UI is not the prettiest out there, but all the functionality is. You appartently have not even tried.
Nothing can be moved.
I have four seperate chat boxes open and organized by similiar tabs. These are completely seperated from eachother and not just different tabs within the same box.
Group and Say in the left corner;
Guild, OOC, Regional, etc in the right corner;
Tell by itself in the upper left;
Combat and System in the upper right.
And I'm using the Mirage UI custom interface, because I like what they've done for the hotkeys.
Here, would you even like a link - Mirage UI
Next time, try clicking on the "white triangle" and the "Astrix" on the left and right side of the chat box. You will see a variety of options to customize things. They even sent out a letter stating that they will be fine tuning, adding and tweaking the interface more in the near future. Which I agree, it needs.
Nothing can be resized.
Again, click the magic "White Triangle" on the left-hand side of the chat box. Make sure the "click through" and "Stickied/Docked" options are not checked. Now move your mouse to sides and corners of the chat interface. Looky! We can resize everything!
Nothing can be customized.
Woopps, went alittle out of order. See Mirage UI above.
O.. and this link - Guide: AOC UI and Mods
and this one - AoCWiki
So, yes, Chainmail it may not be pretty, but it does function with all necessities of a chat interface and there is alot that Funcom needs to get done. Although, I have never seen an MMO a month into release that didn't have some sort of issue. Even LotR had issues with people screaming for content weeks and months after it first released, but everyone's forgotten or turned a blind eye.
In either case, I'm having fun in AoC and from what I've seen I like the direction they're going. They're getting my monthly pennies to help them along.
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that doesn't count as a free trial.