Sounds like you're describing Fury pretty closely.
Check it out at http://www.unleashthefury.com or there's a link to the board on the left so you can see people's opinions on it. It's depth isn't exactly my favorite but you may like it since it is very structured.
EDIT: Oops didn't see that last part about you already trying Fury. Have you tried DaoC though? Apparently it's quite easy to get to max level now and the RvR is unmatchable as I hear so frequently.
Wait till fall. That's when Warhammer is coming out.
Warhammer, is a grind fest without any structured PVP.
Im looking for something that you can play without grinding PVE for armor/weapons.
Sometthing that provides areana for PVP and does matching of players according to thier skill level.
I don't know what you mean by "structured" then. Matched fights like WoW arenas? If so then play Fury - I hear that it improved a bit. In addition there are many online FPSs out there you can try for that tiered "e-sport" feel.
And on another note - you're quite misinformed about WAR. You gain XP with PvP there and the best gear rewards are obtained through PvP. You can play the game from 1-40 without almost ever touching a mob. In addition gear is supposed to matter quite a bit less there than what is the current norm. It'll feature horizontal gear progression similar to how skills in GW work.
And as for "grind fest without any structured PvP" - it depends on your definitions of "grind" and "structure". According to my definitions of both terms you couldn't be farther from the truth.
Originally posted by markoraos And on another note - you're quite misinformed about WAR. You gain XP with PvP there and the best gear rewards are obtained through PvP. You can play the game from 1-40 without almost ever touching a mob. In addition gear is supposed to matter quite a bit less there than what is the current norm. It'll feature horizontal gear progression similar to how skills in GW work.
Originally posted by markoraos Originally posted by redOrc Originally posted by markoraos Wait till fall. That's when Warhammer is coming out.
Warhammer, is a grind fest without any structured PVP. Im looking for something that you can play without grinding PVE for armor/weapons. Sometthing that provides areana for PVP and does matching of players according to thier skill level.
I don't know what you mean by "structured" then. Matched fights like WoW arenas? If so then play Fury - I hear that it improved a bit. In addition there are many online FPSs out there you can try for that tiered "e-sport" feel. And on another note - you're quite misinformed about WAR. You gain XP with PvP there and the best gear rewards are obtained through PvP. You can play the game from 1-40 without almost ever touching a mob. In addition gear is supposed to matter quite a bit less there than what is the current norm. It'll feature horizontal gear progression similar to how skills in GW work. And as for "grind fest without any structured PvP" - it depends on your definitions of "grind" and "structure". According to my definitions of both terms you couldn't be farther from the truth.
try WoW.. once you cap lv70 (it won't take more than 2-3 weeks, is this alot?) you can PvP with randoms @ Battlegrounds, while getting your rank @ the arena according to your skill. You will need (at least) one partner for the arena.. but it will be pure PvP.
I've been playing GW for more than 2 years. Im looking for a game that can provide structured PVP. Im not looking for grinding, just PVP. Im not looking for FPS that pretends it's an RPG. I've tried Fury, but it failed to deliver. Is there anything around ?
Hey Red... If you don't mind spaceships then EVE is the only game i can really recommend. Especially now it has really opened up to everyone with the factional warfare. You don't need to play for years to compete, every kill and death is recorded on your character sheet, easily enough to equip without grinding for hours.
The reason why factional warfare is working well is due to the fact you can enter PvP very quickly and not being pwned. Faction missions have different levels that have a limit on the size of ship. So even after 1-2 weeks you can enter in PvP that has meaning (fighting for your faction and affect boundaries) but you can take a frigate in and not be bothered if you lose....besides pride and letting your race down!
I am playing AoC as well and the PvP is not 'amazing' but its definitely better than most fantasy games. You can at least use a bit of strategy and hold your own. Not the usual 2 clicks and someone is dead. RP PvP servers are the best. People tend to not gank as much but PvP is more around RP.
If you can wait and still don't mind spaceships then Jumpgate is almost pure skills, real flying, real shooting, real aiming. Its tough.
Wait till fall. That's when Warhammer is coming out.
Warhammer, is a grind fest without any structured PVP.
Im looking for something that you can play without grinding PVE for armor/weapons.
Sometthing that provides areana for PVP and does matching of players according to thier skill level.
I don't know what you mean by "structured" then. Matched fights like WoW arenas? If so then play Fury - I hear that it improved a bit. In addition there are many online FPSs out there you can try for that tiered "e-sport" feel.
And on another note - you're quite misinformed about WAR. You gain XP with PvP there and the best gear rewards are obtained through PvP. You can play the game from 1-40 without almost ever touching a mob. In addition gear is supposed to matter quite a bit less there than what is the current norm. It'll feature horizontal gear progression similar to how skills in GW work.
And as for "grind fest without any structured PvP" - it depends on your definitions of "grind" and "structure". According to my definitions of both terms you couldn't be farther from the truth.
I stand corrected. Thanx for the input. I just jumped on WAR site and it realy looks promising.
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I don't know what you mean by structured PvP, but would a battle arena work? Perfect World has them in every city.
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Wait till fall. That's when Warhammer is coming out.
Warhammer, is a grind fest without any structured PVP.
Im looking for something that you can play without grinding PVE for armor/weapons.
Sometthing that provides areana for PVP and does matching of players according to thier skill level.
Sounds like you're describing Fury pretty closely.
Check it out at http://www.unleashthefury.com or there's a link to the board on the left so you can see people's opinions on it. It's depth isn't exactly my favorite but you may like it since it is very structured.
EDIT: Oops didn't see that last part about you already trying Fury. Have you tried DaoC though? Apparently it's quite easy to get to max level now and the RvR is unmatchable as I hear so frequently.
Warhammer, is a grind fest without any structured PVP.
Im looking for something that you can play without grinding PVE for armor/weapons.
Sometthing that provides areana for PVP and does matching of players according to thier skill level.
I don't know what you mean by "structured" then. Matched fights like WoW arenas? If so then play Fury - I hear that it improved a bit. In addition there are many online FPSs out there you can try for that tiered "e-sport" feel.
And on another note - you're quite misinformed about WAR. You gain XP with PvP there and the best gear rewards are obtained through PvP. You can play the game from 1-40 without almost ever touching a mob. In addition gear is supposed to matter quite a bit less there than what is the current norm. It'll feature horizontal gear progression similar to how skills in GW work.
And as for "grind fest without any structured PvP" - it depends on your definitions of "grind" and "structure". According to my definitions of both terms you couldn't be farther from the truth.
Completely agreed.
Hopefully Warhammer will be a huge step in the right direction for this genre. :]
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Warhammer, is a grind fest without any structured PVP.
Im looking for something that you can play without grinding PVE for armor/weapons.
Sometthing that provides areana for PVP and does matching of players according to thier skill level.
I don't know what you mean by "structured" then. Matched fights like WoW arenas? If so then play Fury - I hear that it improved a bit. In addition there are many online FPSs out there you can try for that tiered "e-sport" feel.
And on another note - you're quite misinformed about WAR. You gain XP with PvP there and the best gear rewards are obtained through PvP. You can play the game from 1-40 without almost ever touching a mob. In addition gear is supposed to matter quite a bit less there than what is the current norm. It'll feature horizontal gear progression similar to how skills in GW work.
And as for "grind fest without any structured PvP" - it depends on your definitions of "grind" and "structure". According to my definitions of both terms you couldn't be farther from the truth.
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try WoW.. once you cap lv70 (it won't take more than 2-3 weeks, is this alot?) you can PvP with randoms @ Battlegrounds, while getting your rank @ the arena according to your skill. You will need (at least) one partner for the arena.. but it will be pure PvP.
Hey Red... If you don't mind spaceships then EVE is the only game i can really recommend. Especially now it has really opened up to everyone with the factional warfare. You don't need to play for years to compete, every kill and death is recorded on your character sheet, easily enough to equip without grinding for hours.
The reason why factional warfare is working well is due to the fact you can enter PvP very quickly and not being pwned. Faction missions have different levels that have a limit on the size of ship. So even after 1-2 weeks you can enter in PvP that has meaning (fighting for your faction and affect boundaries) but you can take a frigate in and not be bothered if you lose....besides pride and letting your race down!
I am playing AoC as well and the PvP is not 'amazing' but its definitely better than most fantasy games. You can at least use a bit of strategy and hold your own. Not the usual 2 clicks and someone is dead. RP PvP servers are the best. People tend to not gank as much but PvP is more around RP.
If you can wait and still don't mind spaceships then Jumpgate is almost pure skills, real flying, real shooting, real aiming. Its tough.
All the best..
fury 100% the only thing you do on fury is pvp
Warhammer, is a grind fest without any structured PVP.
Im looking for something that you can play without grinding PVE for armor/weapons.
Sometthing that provides areana for PVP and does matching of players according to thier skill level.
I don't know what you mean by "structured" then. Matched fights like WoW arenas? If so then play Fury - I hear that it improved a bit. In addition there are many online FPSs out there you can try for that tiered "e-sport" feel.
And on another note - you're quite misinformed about WAR. You gain XP with PvP there and the best gear rewards are obtained through PvP. You can play the game from 1-40 without almost ever touching a mob. In addition gear is supposed to matter quite a bit less there than what is the current norm. It'll feature horizontal gear progression similar to how skills in GW work.
And as for "grind fest without any structured PvP" - it depends on your definitions of "grind" and "structure". According to my definitions of both terms you couldn't be farther from the truth.
I stand corrected. Thanx for the input. I just jumped on WAR site and it realy looks promising.
I'm looking farward to that game....