Unless they want to fail from the get go ..... Hey mabey they only want 100 subs at launch. many DEvs have tried Full Loot pvp and the game died or they just forgot about the idea altogethor... I mean Look at AoC right now the WoW fanboy whimps cried and now FFA is going away.
Says who?
What qualifies you to give such statement?
What are the games that you are talking about?
AoC DOESN'T have full loot..............FFA doesn't mean full loot, but free to kill who you like.
The only game with full loot I think of is UO, and it did good.........considering is a 2D game.
I really cannot think of a 3D MMO who implemented full loot (Lineage 2 had partial loot), so how do you know it is going to fail?
Look how many people are interested in Darkfall which has full loot, at least 100.000 people applied for Beta, which is a very good number indeed.
Just because you can't deal with losing your stuff, that doesn't mean everybody else can't.
If you don't like Full Loot, find yourself another game, I hope Earthrise devs won't listen whiners like you, because that's what can kill their game.
Yeah, turn it into another WoW. Sheesh, don't you people have enough grindfests that you want to carebearise each and every MMO? There are other people out there that don't share your taste for games. You're not the judge of all things good and bad and games won't be tailored by your desires.
"The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands, To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming! On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
Unless they want to fail from the get go ..... Hey mabey they only want 100 subs at launch. many DEvs have tried Full Loot pvp and the game died or they just forgot about the idea altogethor... I mean Look at AoC right now the WoW fanboy whimps cried and now FFA is going away.
Didn't you just make the exact same post in DFO forums?
Oh, yes you did.
Earthrise fans! Hope you get a smooth ride to release!
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Unless they want to fail from the get go ..... Hey mabey they only want 100 subs at launch. many DEvs have tried Full Loot pvp and the game died or they just forgot about the idea altogethor... I mean Look at AoC right now the WoW fanboy whimps cried and now FFA is going away.
Didn't you just make the exact same post in DFO forums?
Oh, yes you did.
Earthrise fans! Hope you get a smooth ride to release!
Well I am happy that DFO is getting all the trolls
We all have our fingers crossed for a smooth ride to release! Still waiting for that beta announcement!
on topic tho: As the person above me stated. If you are afraid of loosing your stuff... insure it... Simply... Not hard at all.. If you don't want to insure than don't wear it!
Right.. Eve doesn't have a full loot system and it also doesn't have more then 200k+ subscriptions even though its like, 5 years old. FYI, Eve doesn't have safe zones, they have "safer" zones. All it takes is a war dec and thats gone aswell. Full loot phrase alone is enough to gather PvPers imo.
Ok, I believe its time for the wall of text. So lets pick this apart shall we:
THE CAREBEAR COMPLAINT:
"Oh no, I dont wana lose my epix cause some high level character ganked me!"
The Answer:
This is fairly simple really, Im almost insulted that it must be brought up but as many before have said this game is first off based on SKILL. Not level, not loot, SKILL. Losing gear may suck a bit but it wont make you helpless, infact gear will be easily replaced. Insurance is another way to combat the loss of said gear by allowing you to make it "bound" to you for a price. Now about "high level characters", if you know ANYTHING about this game the reason this is invalid is the simple fact the game doesnt have levels. The newby and the vet are going to do the same amount of damage with the same weapons in the most basic terms. In short: if you lose a shootout its your own damn fault.
THE CAREBEAR COMPLAINT:
"Why should I have to worry about getting ganked in open, unwatched, lawless territory?"
The Answer:
This should be fairly obvious. There are no police, no one to arrest or stop someone from killing you, so why should you be safe? Safety is a relative thing even in real life, you are only safe because people fear the reprocusions of their actions. Many say this creates a world were assholes will fester and gankers will be rampant, welcome to the real world son. Just like in reality the best defense is a good offense. Get your friends together, move in groups, always be aware of your surroundings and plan methods of escape. There are many ways you can proactively prevent your demise. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to fear ganking, its a game and sometimes you die, big deal.
THE CAREBEAR COMPLAINT:
"Full loot is stupid!"
The Answer:
No, its realistic. Most people arent going to kill for giggles in real life, they are after something. Money, weapons, armor, equipment, and in this case supplies. This is after the world as we knew it ended for crying out loud. People are going to be looking out for themselves, at any cost. Insure your gear, watch your back, and dont assume your safe ever. Its not that hard.
Also EVE had a very open pvp system and loot system, sure there are greifers but you have to learn to deal with them.
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Full loot is the only way to go imo.
Says who?
What qualifies you to give such statement?
What are the games that you are talking about?
AoC DOESN'T have full loot..............FFA doesn't mean full loot, but free to kill who you like.
The only game with full loot I think of is UO, and it did good.........considering is a 2D game.
I really cannot think of a 3D MMO who implemented full loot (Lineage 2 had partial loot), so how do you know it is going to fail?
Look how many people are interested in Darkfall which has full loot, at least 100.000 people applied for Beta, which is a very good number indeed.
Just because you can't deal with losing your stuff, that doesn't mean everybody else can't.
If you don't like Full Loot, find yourself another game, I hope Earthrise devs won't listen whiners like you, because that's what can kill their game.
Everytime I think about full loot pvp, I get wet.
Yeah, turn it into another WoW. Sheesh, don't you people have enough grindfests that you want to carebearise each and every MMO? There are other people out there that don't share your taste for games. You're not the judge of all things good and bad and games won't be tailored by your desires.
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
I think thats why they are doing the Insurance thing so if you dont insure your stuff thats your fault lol.
But ya this game is gonna be awesome i hope least the read up on the game is sounding awesome gameplay might be a different story =...
Didn't you just make the exact same post in DFO forums?
Oh, yes you did.
Earthrise fans! Hope you get a smooth ride to release!
*****************************
I have nothing clever to say.
Geez it's full loot BUT with insurance. Just like EvE and UO in the later expansions (can't recall when it happened)
You scared of loosing an item that you can just make it again? Ok make an insurance
Chillout ppl
Didn't you just make the exact same post in DFO forums?
Oh, yes you did.
Earthrise fans! Hope you get a smooth ride to release!
Well I am happy that DFO is getting all the trolls
We all have our fingers crossed for a smooth ride to release! Still waiting for that beta announcement!
on topic tho: As the person above me stated. If you are afraid of loosing your stuff... insure it... Simply... Not hard at all.. If you don't want to insure than don't wear it!
ouch full pvp loot some is cool but you should be able to keep some of your stuff
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Retired:,runescape,swg,
everquest2,lotro
Right..
Eve doesn't have a full loot system and it also doesn't have more then 200k+ subscriptions even though its like, 5 years old.
FYI, Eve doesn't have safe zones, they have "safer" zones. All it takes is a war dec and thats gone aswell.
Full loot phrase alone is enough to gather PvPers imo.
THIS pretty much...
OP is a troll
Ok, I believe its time for the wall of text. So lets pick this apart shall we:
THE CAREBEAR COMPLAINT:
"Oh no, I dont wana lose my epix cause some high level character ganked me!"
The Answer:
This is fairly simple really, Im almost insulted that it must be brought up but as many before have said this game is first off based on SKILL. Not level, not loot, SKILL. Losing gear may suck a bit but it wont make you helpless, infact gear will be easily replaced. Insurance is another way to combat the loss of said gear by allowing you to make it "bound" to you for a price. Now about "high level characters", if you know ANYTHING about this game the reason this is invalid is the simple fact the game doesnt have levels. The newby and the vet are going to do the same amount of damage with the same weapons in the most basic terms. In short: if you lose a shootout its your own damn fault.
THE CAREBEAR COMPLAINT:
"Why should I have to worry about getting ganked in open, unwatched, lawless territory?"
The Answer:
This should be fairly obvious. There are no police, no one to arrest or stop someone from killing you, so why should you be safe? Safety is a relative thing even in real life, you are only safe because people fear the reprocusions of their actions. Many say this creates a world were assholes will fester and gankers will be rampant, welcome to the real world son. Just like in reality the best defense is a good offense. Get your friends together, move in groups, always be aware of your surroundings and plan methods of escape. There are many ways you can proactively prevent your demise. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to fear ganking, its a game and sometimes you die, big deal.
THE CAREBEAR COMPLAINT:
"Full loot is stupid!"
The Answer:
No, its realistic. Most people arent going to kill for giggles in real life, they are after something. Money, weapons, armor, equipment, and in this case supplies. This is after the world as we knew it ended for crying out loud. People are going to be looking out for themselves, at any cost. Insure your gear, watch your back, and dont assume your safe ever. Its not that hard.
Also EVE had a very open pvp system and loot system, sure there are greifers but you have to learn to deal with them.