Some people forget how bad most mmos suck their first few weeks. Aoc is doing fine, it will get better, it might get worse but some of you seem like " the glass is empty types" lol
Based on server counts, and overall play time in Xfire (just for trending methods), the actual player counts are still good, and people are still playing.
Now, with the changes to their testing methods for patches (new test server) and a commitment to better notes for patches, and to finally bring in the promised goodies, who knows where this will go.
All I know is AoC is definitely more fun than LOTRO, EQ2, Vanguard or Tabula Rasa. And if anything...THOSE games needed people.
I am willing to go back, but Funcom needs to show me that there is a reason to play at 80.. and I am not talking about NPC raids either, had enough of that in WOW. I want to see sieges working with acceptable FPS.
Are most of the people who frequent these forums new to the MMORPG genre? I mean really? I would like to know which game hit the market flawless with all that was intended in the game implemented?
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry.
To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine.
Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now .
THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice.
this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
Flawless?
On release LOTRO experienced the following...
An exploit was found in the first 24 hours of release in the AH
Floating NPC's (including the infamous hopping Hobbit in Bree) existed for well over a month after launch
Certain quests could not be completed due to the NPC not speaking to you, etc
HUGE memory leak in the Hi-Res textures that went on for close to 6 months
The infamous sound delay in the Barrows (the main instance) and the overall area had an issue where music would completely stop, and not play again until you either logged, and in the instance you had to turn sound off, as the delay was close to 2 seconds between a hit and the actual sound.
Characters would be frozen in place after a Fellowship Maneuver (1 or 2)
All resource icons were a dull green, and certain resources all had the same icons
))))))))))))))))
I could go on. But, for those who believe LOTRO was the end all be all of perfect release...the only game with that honor is DAoC (who had one...yes, just ONE bug on release)
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry. To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine. Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now . THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice. this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
btw my I ask where is WoW on so called biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs ?
I was just letting people know. I know some people that would be happy to know that this is finally happening. I know a lot of people that were wanting to see if it would stand at the top or fall soon. I guess we have signs of the answer to come if not the full blown answer right now. <modedit>
Yeah, thank you for letting everyone know what you discovered. Really, how sad can you get.
The game's hype time is finally starting to end. LOTRO has passed it up now, and if Funcom doesn't fix some major problems soon then it might even be off the type 5 or so list before we know it.
I'm sure that wasn't hard to do for all you supposed LoTR fans who do nothing but plague the AoC threads make posting alts and post negative Hype because you know that LoTR is just too boring to play. If LoTR it is such a great game why are you guys here 24/7? Most the players enjoying AoC don't even know this site exists, and the sales & subscription numbers clearly speak for themselves.
The game's hype time is finally starting to end. LOTRO has passed it up now, and if Funcom doesn't fix some major problems soon then it might even be off the type 5 or so list before we know it.
I'm sure that wasn't hard to do for all you supposed LoTR fans who do nothing but plague the AoC threads make posting alts and post negative Hype because you know that LoTR is just too boring to play. If LoTR it is such a great game why are you guys here 24/7? Most the players enjoying AoC don't even know this site exists, and the sales & subscription numbers clearly speak for themselves.
Only one problem, there are no subscription numbers. Sales numbers show they have sold about 700k boxes (so about 700k people signed up for the first 30 days) but that is no indication of subscriptions because you have to figure in all those who canceled during or at the end of the free 30 days.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I just point out the obvious. The most successful MMO isn't even in that list. Why people want to see that happening, or are happy about it is beyond me. The MMORPG.com boards are, after all, in no way any indicator of what game is successful or not. <modedit>
What game would that be?
Don't even say FF11 or Lineage 1 or 2. I might throw up.
Yet...people continue to play. I left as well, but it was not because the "game" sucked, but the fact Funcom is a screw up. Until I see progress on their part for fixing the mess they made, I decided to put my time elsewhere. But, I did a write up on the actual players, and their time in game...here Simple -n- Complex Based on server counts, and overall play time in Xfire (just for trending methods), the actual player counts are still good, and people are still playing. Now, with the changes to their testing methods for patches (new test server) and a commitment to better notes for patches, and to finally bring in the promised goodies, who knows where this will go. All I know is AoC is definitely more fun than LOTRO, EQ2, Vanguard or Tabula Rasa. And if anything...THOSE games needed people. I think they are playing AoC instead.
People are playing because they have a false hope Funcom is going to bring the SAVIOR patch.
Tell people something enough and they start to believe it.
The game's hype time is finally starting to end. LOTRO has passed it up now, and if Funcom doesn't fix some major problems soon then it might even be off the type 5 or so list before we know it.
I'm sure that wasn't hard to do for all you supposed LoTR fans who do nothing but plague the AoC threads make posting alts and post negative Hype because you know that LoTR is just too boring to play. If LoTR it is such a great game why are you guys here 24/7? Most the players enjoying AoC don't even know this site exists, and the sales & subscription numbers clearly speak for themselves.
LotRO is funcoms Crom. Bottom line, Funcom will never reach the superior development status that Turbine has with how they deal with high pressure situations, it is like watching a tornado take out a small 2 person camping tent... While if Turbine see a tornando coming , they know to get to the basement and take certain things offline.
Fyi , I own 2 computers, I'm able to play VG / LotrO / CS / and what ever else, and post on mmorpg at the same time. Think miost serious beta testers have a similar set up to me....
Sorry, but you state "Superior Develpment Status". Turbine has been in charge of two large failures in Asherons Call 2 and DDO. All of this before LOTRO.
LOTRO only sells due to it's IP, not because it is a good game. Many issues plague the game in UI usability, boring quests, and more.
AoC is not perfect, but sure was more fun than LOTRO.
Now, Funcom as a company is an issue, and that I will not deny. But, do not try to shine the light on Turbine as if they are a great company themselves. AC2 and DDO were proof of that.
Are most of the people who frequent these forums new to the MMORPG genre? I mean really? I would like to know which game hit the market flawless with all that was intended in the game implemented?
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry.
To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine.
Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now .
THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice.
this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
Flawless?
On release LOTRO experienced the following...
An exploit was found in the first 24 hours of release in the AH
Floating NPC's (including the infamous hopping Hobbit in Bree) existed for well over a month after launch
Certain quests could not be completed due to the NPC not speaking to you, etc
HUGE memory leak in the Hi-Res textures that went on for close to 6 months
The infamous sound delay in the Barrows (the main instance) and the overall area had an issue where music would completely stop, and not play again until you either logged, and in the instance you had to turn sound off, as the delay was close to 2 seconds between a hit and the actual sound.
Characters would be frozen in place after a Fellowship Maneuver (1 or 2)
All resource icons were a dull green, and certain resources all had the same icons
))))))))))))))))
I could go on. But, for those who believe LOTRO was the end all be all of perfect release...the only game with that honor is DAoC (who had one...yes, just ONE bug on release)
Cheers
you making up again lol, care to show any prove of that bugs. i was there since beta and didn't saw any of the bugs you mention. if they were true LOTRO forums should have posts about them.
don't even compare lotro launch with aoc. AOC has like 1 million bugs still, want me to make a list?
Thanks Openedge1 for sharing YOUR OPINION! Im sure that all that counts in the MMO market is YOUR OPINION...
LotrO had plenty of bugs at release.. there is never going to be a a MMO released that doesnt have bugs... but everything is relative...
the difference between LotrO release and AoC release is that Turbine delivered exactly what they promised and they were very open with what the game was about and what was in it... A very opn beta, buddy keys and the free trial came not long after launch so they werent trying to hide anything...
And by the way... who cares about theese numbers?? Its just silly arguing about such things..
If WoW = The Beatles and WAR = Led Zeppelin Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Are most of the people who frequent these forums new to the MMORPG genre? I mean really? I would like to know which game hit the market flawless with all that was intended in the game implemented?
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry.
To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine.
Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now .
THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice.
this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
Flawless?
On release LOTRO experienced the following...
An exploit was found in the first 24 hours of release in the AH
Floating NPC's (including the infamous hopping Hobbit in Bree) existed for well over a month after launch
Certain quests could not be completed due to the NPC not speaking to you, etc
HUGE memory leak in the Hi-Res textures that went on for close to 6 months
The infamous sound delay in the Barrows (the main instance) and the overall area had an issue where music would completely stop, and not play again until you either logged, and in the instance you had to turn sound off, as the delay was close to 2 seconds between a hit and the actual sound.
Characters would be frozen in place after a Fellowship Maneuver (1 or 2)
All resource icons were a dull green, and certain resources all had the same icons
))))))))))))))))
I could go on. But, for those who believe LOTRO was the end all be all of perfect release...the only game with that honor is DAoC (who had one...yes, just ONE bug on release)
Cheers
you making up again lol, care to show any prove of that bugs. i was there since beta and didn't saw any of the bugs you mention. if they were true LOTRO forums should have posts about them.
don't even compare lotro launch with aoc. AOC has like 1 million bugs still, want me to make a list?
I do not need to prove these as people who DID play in beta and were founders know about these.
The fact you even call the bouncing hobbit in Bree (which existed for close to a month, and was even discussed in the forums lovingly by Patience stating how she would miss him) just lets me know you are only here to argue.
The fact remains, LOTRO had issues as well as AoC, and no MMO except DAoC ever launched with a minimal set of bugs..period.
Thanks Openedge1 for sharing YOUR OPINION! Im sure that all that counts in the MMO market is YOUR OPINION...
LotrO had plenty of bugs at release.. there is never going to be a a MMO released that doesnt have bugs... but everything is relative... the difference between LotrO release and AoC release is that Turbine delivered exactly what they promised and they were very open with what the game was about and what was in it... A very opn beta, buddy keys and the free trial came not long after launch so they werent trying to hide anything...
And by the way... who cares about theese numbers?? Its just silly arguing about such things..
Wait.,..it is my opinion that AC2 and DDO both failed? I fail to see your logic that that is an "opinion"
As well as the bugs, these are not "opinions". These were known issues. All you need to do is go onto LOTRO forums archives to see the many issues with the memory leaks, etc. The only thing you will NOT find is the exploit (which all MMO's delete, as no dev wants info on exploits available)
Are most of the people who frequent these forums new to the MMORPG genre? I mean really? I would like to know which game hit the market flawless with all that was intended in the game implemented?
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry.
To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine.
Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now .
THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice.
this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
Flawless?
On release LOTRO experienced the following...
An exploit was found in the first 24 hours of release in the AH
Floating NPC's (including the infamous hopping Hobbit in Bree) existed for well over a month after launch
Certain quests could not be completed due to the NPC not speaking to you, etc
HUGE memory leak in the Hi-Res textures that went on for close to 6 months
The infamous sound delay in the Barrows (the main instance) and the overall area had an issue where music would completely stop, and not play again until you either logged, and in the instance you had to turn sound off, as the delay was close to 2 seconds between a hit and the actual sound.
Characters would be frozen in place after a Fellowship Maneuver (1 or 2)
All resource icons were a dull green, and certain resources all had the same icons
))))))))))))))))
I could go on. But, for those who believe LOTRO was the end all be all of perfect release...the only game with that honor is DAoC (who had one...yes, just ONE bug on release)
Cheers
You are really going to keep going on about a bouncing Hobbit and a sound glitch ( which I know of no one experiencing (and I played through Beta )and then compare it to the glitches /bugs in AOC? As a a matter of fact other than the AH exploit ( which is very common in games) and the barely noticeable memory leak ,( which was so minimal in live that I think I only ever heard a handful of people complain and it didnt lat for 6 months) the other bugs you list Ive never heard of.
Really no need to bust on you because you are doing a fine job yourself in comparing apples to rotten oranges being eaten by maggotts
Are most of the people who frequent these forums new to the MMORPG genre? I mean really? I would like to know which game hit the market flawless with all that was intended in the game implemented?
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry.
To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine.
Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now .
THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice.
this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
Flawless?
On release LOTRO experienced the following...
An exploit was found in the first 24 hours of release in the AH
Floating NPC's (including the infamous hopping Hobbit in Bree) existed for well over a month after launch
Certain quests could not be completed due to the NPC not speaking to you, etc
HUGE memory leak in the Hi-Res textures that went on for close to 6 months
The infamous sound delay in the Barrows (the main instance) and the overall area had an issue where music would completely stop, and not play again until you either logged, and in the instance you had to turn sound off, as the delay was close to 2 seconds between a hit and the actual sound.
Characters would be frozen in place after a Fellowship Maneuver (1 or 2)
All resource icons were a dull green, and certain resources all had the same icons
))))))))))))))))
I could go on. But, for those who believe LOTRO was the end all be all of perfect release...the only game with that honor is DAoC (who had one...yes, just ONE bug on release)
Cheers
You are really going to keep going on about a bouncing Hobbit and a sound glitch ( which I know of no one experiencing (and I played through Beta )and then compare it to the glitches /bugs in AOC? As a a matter of fact other than the AH exploit ( which is very common in games) and the barely noticeable memory leak ,( which was so minimal in live that I think I only ever heard a handful of people complain and it didnt lat for 6 months) the other bugs you list Ive never heard of.
Really no need to bust on you because you are doing a fine job yourself in comparing apples to rotten oranges being eaten by maggotts
The point is someone stating that LOTRO had a "pristine" launch is the issue, I never once said AoC had no bugs, and I am fully aware of their bugs,
But, painting LOTRO in this light of perfection is not fact, and I wished to share the facts that LOTRO also was rocky, but thanks to a polished starting zone (sound familiar?) a lot of these problems were not seen until the same hardcore players found the issues.
I can point to many a blog showing people who have hit max level, with no issues. That to me at least sounds playable...
Never gave real credibility to mmorpg.com game rating. Seems every new games being released always get the no. 1 spot for a few weeks. But it's nice to see that it's gone from the number 1 spot.
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Some people forget how bad most mmos suck their first few weeks. Aoc is doing fine, it will get better, it might get worse but some of you seem like " the glass is empty types" lol
Yes lots of MMOs suck at first but AOC has gone one leap further then just sucking.
Yet...people continue to play.
I left as well, but it was not because the "game" sucked, but the fact Funcom is a screw up.
Until I see progress on their part for fixing the mess they made, I decided to put my time elsewhere.
But, I did a write up on the actual players, and their time in game...here
Simple -n- Complex
Based on server counts, and overall play time in Xfire (just for trending methods), the actual player counts are still good, and people are still playing.
Now, with the changes to their testing methods for patches (new test server) and a commitment to better notes for patches, and to finally bring in the promised goodies, who knows where this will go.
All I know is AoC is definitely more fun than LOTRO, EQ2, Vanguard or Tabula Rasa. And if anything...THOSE games needed people.
I think they are playing AoC instead.
I am willing to go back, but Funcom needs to show me that there is a reason to play at 80.. and I am not talking about NPC raids either, had enough of that in WOW. I want to see sieges working with acceptable FPS.
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry.
To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine.
Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now .
THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice.
this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
Flawless?
On release LOTRO experienced the following...
An exploit was found in the first 24 hours of release in the AH
Floating NPC's (including the infamous hopping Hobbit in Bree) existed for well over a month after launch
Certain quests could not be completed due to the NPC not speaking to you, etc
HUGE memory leak in the Hi-Res textures that went on for close to 6 months
The infamous sound delay in the Barrows (the main instance) and the overall area had an issue where music would completely stop, and not play again until you either logged, and in the instance you had to turn sound off, as the delay was close to 2 seconds between a hit and the actual sound.
Characters would be frozen in place after a Fellowship Maneuver (1 or 2)
All resource icons were a dull green, and certain resources all had the same icons
))))))))))))))))
I could go on. But, for those who believe LOTRO was the end all be all of perfect release...the only game with that honor is DAoC (who had one...yes, just ONE bug on release)
Cheers
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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btw my I ask where is WoW on so called biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs ?
WoW is listed, look to the left "at the bottom"
WoW is 20th on the list. After VG. LOL
Yeah, thank you for letting everyone know what you discovered. Really, how sad can you get.
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"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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I'm sure that wasn't hard to do for all you supposed LoTR fans who do nothing but plague the AoC threads make posting alts and post negative Hype because you know that LoTR is just too boring to play. If LoTR it is such a great game why are you guys here 24/7? Most the players enjoying AoC don't even know this site exists, and the sales & subscription numbers clearly speak for themselves.
Because Warhammer closed its Beta for 6 days.
Waiting for the next thing
I'm sure that wasn't hard to do for all you supposed LoTR fans who do nothing but plague the AoC threads make posting alts and post negative Hype because you know that LoTR is just too boring to play. If LoTR it is such a great game why are you guys here 24/7? Most the players enjoying AoC don't even know this site exists, and the sales & subscription numbers clearly speak for themselves.
Only one problem, there are no subscription numbers. Sales numbers show they have sold about 700k boxes (so about 700k people signed up for the first 30 days) but that is no indication of subscriptions because you have to figure in all those who canceled during or at the end of the free 30 days.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
What game would that be?
Don't even say FF11 or Lineage 1 or 2. I might throw up.
People are playing because they have a false hope Funcom is going to bring the SAVIOR patch.
Tell people something enough and they start to believe it.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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I'm sure that wasn't hard to do for all you supposed LoTR fans who do nothing but plague the AoC threads make posting alts and post negative Hype because you know that LoTR is just too boring to play. If LoTR it is such a great game why are you guys here 24/7? Most the players enjoying AoC don't even know this site exists, and the sales & subscription numbers clearly speak for themselves.
LotRO is funcoms Crom. Bottom line, Funcom will never reach the superior development status that Turbine has with how they deal with high pressure situations, it is like watching a tornado take out a small 2 person camping tent... While if Turbine see a tornando coming , they know to get to the basement and take certain things offline.
Fyi , I own 2 computers, I'm able to play VG / LotrO / CS / and what ever else, and post on mmorpg at the same time. Think miost serious beta testers have a similar set up to me....
Sorry, but you state "Superior Develpment Status". Turbine has been in charge of two large failures in Asherons Call 2 and DDO. All of this before LOTRO.
LOTRO only sells due to it's IP, not because it is a good game. Many issues plague the game in UI usability, boring quests, and more.
AoC is not perfect, but sure was more fun than LOTRO.
Now, Funcom as a company is an issue, and that I will not deny. But, do not try to shine the light on Turbine as if they are a great company themselves. AC2 and DDO were proof of that.
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry.
To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine.
Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now .
THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice.
this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
Flawless?
On release LOTRO experienced the following...
An exploit was found in the first 24 hours of release in the AH
Floating NPC's (including the infamous hopping Hobbit in Bree) existed for well over a month after launch
Certain quests could not be completed due to the NPC not speaking to you, etc
HUGE memory leak in the Hi-Res textures that went on for close to 6 months
The infamous sound delay in the Barrows (the main instance) and the overall area had an issue where music would completely stop, and not play again until you either logged, and in the instance you had to turn sound off, as the delay was close to 2 seconds between a hit and the actual sound.
Characters would be frozen in place after a Fellowship Maneuver (1 or 2)
All resource icons were a dull green, and certain resources all had the same icons
))))))))))))))))
I could go on. But, for those who believe LOTRO was the end all be all of perfect release...the only game with that honor is DAoC (who had one...yes, just ONE bug on release)
Cheers
you making up again lol, care to show any prove of that bugs. i was there since beta and didn't saw any of the bugs you mention. if they were true LOTRO forums should have posts about them.
don't even compare lotro launch with aoc. AOC has like 1 million bugs still, want me to make a list?
Thanks Openedge1 for sharing YOUR OPINION! Im sure that all that counts in the MMO market is YOUR OPINION...
LotrO had plenty of bugs at release.. there is never going to be a a MMO released that doesnt have bugs... but everything is relative...
the difference between LotrO release and AoC release is that Turbine delivered exactly what they promised and they were very open with what the game was about and what was in it... A very opn beta, buddy keys and the free trial came not long after launch so they werent trying to hide anything...
And by the way... who cares about theese numbers?? Its just silly arguing about such things..
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Good bad good bad and so on...
I'll be back in this game later on, most games tend to be better after some updates. It has potential.
Threads like this will be created for every coming MMO, they all have their haters and lovers and I am getting tired of it.
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry.
To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine.
Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now .
THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice.
this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
Flawless?
On release LOTRO experienced the following...
An exploit was found in the first 24 hours of release in the AH
Floating NPC's (including the infamous hopping Hobbit in Bree) existed for well over a month after launch
Certain quests could not be completed due to the NPC not speaking to you, etc
HUGE memory leak in the Hi-Res textures that went on for close to 6 months
The infamous sound delay in the Barrows (the main instance) and the overall area had an issue where music would completely stop, and not play again until you either logged, and in the instance you had to turn sound off, as the delay was close to 2 seconds between a hit and the actual sound.
Characters would be frozen in place after a Fellowship Maneuver (1 or 2)
All resource icons were a dull green, and certain resources all had the same icons
))))))))))))))))
I could go on. But, for those who believe LOTRO was the end all be all of perfect release...the only game with that honor is DAoC (who had one...yes, just ONE bug on release)
Cheers
you making up again lol, care to show any prove of that bugs. i was there since beta and didn't saw any of the bugs you mention. if they were true LOTRO forums should have posts about them.
don't even compare lotro launch with aoc. AOC has like 1 million bugs still, want me to make a list?
I do not need to prove these as people who DID play in beta and were founders know about these.
The fact you even call the bouncing hobbit in Bree (which existed for close to a month, and was even discussed in the forums lovingly by Patience stating how she would miss him) just lets me know you are only here to argue.
The fact remains, LOTRO had issues as well as AoC, and no MMO except DAoC ever launched with a minimal set of bugs..period.
Sorry you wish to argue and troll instead.
Wait.,..it is my opinion that AC2 and DDO both failed? I fail to see your logic that that is an "opinion"
As well as the bugs, these are not "opinions". These were known issues. All you need to do is go onto LOTRO forums archives to see the many issues with the memory leaks, etc. The only thing you will NOT find is the exploit (which all MMO's delete, as no dev wants info on exploits available)
EDIT: Added links to patch notes...here
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=35853 (Memory leaks)
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=39394 (AH exploit...was not deleted...weird)
END EDIT:
I also think you believe I am saying AoC is some godsend, and that cannot be farther from the truth.
But, to state Turbine is a "shining" example of a good development company ...THAT is an opinion, as history shows otherwise.
Cheers
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry.
To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine.
Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now .
THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice.
this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
Flawless?
On release LOTRO experienced the following...
An exploit was found in the first 24 hours of release in the AH
Floating NPC's (including the infamous hopping Hobbit in Bree) existed for well over a month after launch
Certain quests could not be completed due to the NPC not speaking to you, etc
HUGE memory leak in the Hi-Res textures that went on for close to 6 months
The infamous sound delay in the Barrows (the main instance) and the overall area had an issue where music would completely stop, and not play again until you either logged, and in the instance you had to turn sound off, as the delay was close to 2 seconds between a hit and the actual sound.
Characters would be frozen in place after a Fellowship Maneuver (1 or 2)
All resource icons were a dull green, and certain resources all had the same icons
))))))))))))))))
I could go on. But, for those who believe LOTRO was the end all be all of perfect release...the only game with that honor is DAoC (who had one...yes, just ONE bug on release)
Cheers
You are really going to keep going on about a bouncing Hobbit and a sound glitch ( which I know of no one experiencing (and I played through Beta )and then compare it to the glitches /bugs in AOC? As a a matter of fact other than the AH exploit ( which is very common in games) and the barely noticeable memory leak ,( which was so minimal in live that I think I only ever heard a handful of people complain and it didnt lat for 6 months) the other bugs you list Ive never heard of.
Really no need to bust on you because you are doing a fine job yourself in comparing apples to rotten oranges being eaten by maggotts
Lord ofThe Rings online did. It may of not of sold more coppies then AoC but it is just a better game then AoC and the people on mmorpg.com recognize this , as well as people all around the mmorpg industry.
To say Turbine has no right to be number one is like saying Michael Jordon can't dunk a basketball, it is asinine.
Before this happened , all of the AoC fans where sopouting about the front page of this website "where number one where number" and I commonly replied "for the moment" Great games have great staying power, and Lord of the Rings Online has been staying for over 1.5 years now .
THe person who stated that Lord of The rings Online jumped from some lower number to this "new" number is wrong. LotRO has maintained the 8.4-8.5 through out this year and a half. I been on this forum forum for little under 3 yewars and I've never seen a game drop as fast on this chart as AoC has. This chart as insignificant as the AoC player base on this website wwant it to be , is a good reflection of the current player choice.
this is mmorpg.com , this biggest website dedicated to mmorpgs , yet somehow they got it wrong , according to the AoC community...
Flawless?
On release LOTRO experienced the following...
An exploit was found in the first 24 hours of release in the AH
Floating NPC's (including the infamous hopping Hobbit in Bree) existed for well over a month after launch
Certain quests could not be completed due to the NPC not speaking to you, etc
HUGE memory leak in the Hi-Res textures that went on for close to 6 months
The infamous sound delay in the Barrows (the main instance) and the overall area had an issue where music would completely stop, and not play again until you either logged, and in the instance you had to turn sound off, as the delay was close to 2 seconds between a hit and the actual sound.
Characters would be frozen in place after a Fellowship Maneuver (1 or 2)
All resource icons were a dull green, and certain resources all had the same icons
))))))))))))))))
I could go on. But, for those who believe LOTRO was the end all be all of perfect release...the only game with that honor is DAoC (who had one...yes, just ONE bug on release)
Cheers
You are really going to keep going on about a bouncing Hobbit and a sound glitch ( which I know of no one experiencing (and I played through Beta )and then compare it to the glitches /bugs in AOC? As a a matter of fact other than the AH exploit ( which is very common in games) and the barely noticeable memory leak ,( which was so minimal in live that I think I only ever heard a handful of people complain and it didnt lat for 6 months) the other bugs you list Ive never heard of.
Really no need to bust on you because you are doing a fine job yourself in comparing apples to rotten oranges being eaten by maggotts
The point is someone stating that LOTRO had a "pristine" launch is the issue, I never once said AoC had no bugs, and I am fully aware of their bugs,
But, painting LOTRO in this light of perfection is not fact, and I wished to share the facts that LOTRO also was rocky, but thanks to a polished starting zone (sound familiar?) a lot of these problems were not seen until the same hardcore players found the issues.
I can point to many a blog showing people who have hit max level, with no issues. That to me at least sounds playable...
Oh, and as to the sound delay glitch
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=71690
Never gave real credibility to mmorpg.com game rating. Seems every new games being released always get the no. 1 spot for a few weeks. But it's nice to see that it's gone from the number 1 spot.