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AudioVisual is no experienced game publisher
Antikythera
Member Posts: 128
At best this AudioVisual company is nothing more than a mass replicator of media. It doesn't exactly require any kind of skill or experience to mass produce DVD's and ship them out.
It's pretty obvious a company like this would not have much experience in video games considering they are a Greek company to begin with and video game development there is basically a non-existent industry.
So for all anyone knows this company could have simply been shown the same Alpha vids that they've been showing to the public all these years and because of their lack of experience thought these vids were actually meaningful , saw an opportunity to break into a new field and ignorantly jumped at it.
This news mean nothing. The only news that is going to mean anything is a full featured video showing complete gameplay and again for some strange reason it's taking them a million years to produce one less than 6 months to a commercial launch.
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Unfortunately this certainly is a possibility, although it a very cynical and pessimistic assessment that I’m sure will make you eligible to be called all sorts of names by people who are a lot more positive and optimistic about this latest information.
Considering what we know about this company (AVE, not Aventurine), I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and wait and see for a while for any further developments at this stage.
My own personal opinion is that things could be a lot worse, at least they finally have a publisher after so many years, though exactly what indication that is of the quality of there product remains to be seen in my opinion.
Tasos himself said that Aventurine are involved in the management of this new division, so that means they are self-publishing. Of course, they will need a partner for the actual printing and distribution, so AVE will be providing that.
But AVE is no Publisher in the standard meaning of the word, i.e. they will have no say on running the game, and will likewise not be required to contribute financially to development - it's a deal between two parties (Aventurine and AudioVisual Enterprises) for printing and distribution.
So you're saying AVE is not the Publisher as much as it is a Pressing Manufacturer and Distributor?
Will AVE also be Pressing, Boxing, and Shipping, the US Versions of the game?
- CaesarsGhost
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"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
That’s why I’m personally advocating the wait and see approach on this for a while because unlike Aventurine which is a private company, AVE is a publicly traded company that is obligated to release financial information for its share holders.
So whilst Aventurine has spent years without disclosing any of this sort of information.
AVE presumably will be a lot more forthcoming even if Aventurine are not.
If Aventurine have made similar commitments to AVE about Darkfall’s schedule for beta and release in 2008, hopefully AVE will disclose this.
If Aventurine have not, then we can assume that these official commitments to the community are probably not very realistic.
Yes, AVE is not the Publisher, Aventurine is publishing (that's why Tasos said they signed a deal with AVE as part of Aventurine's effort on a "self-publishing deal" - latest forum News update from Tasos).
So AVE is not involved in the making of the game, as traditionally Publishers are.
About the US version, Tasos has said they are looking for Publishers/Distributors in the US so AVE is not gonna be distributing there, only in the EU market...
http://markets.ft.com/ft/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=ABE%3AATH
Looks like AVE’s share price has gone down 50% In the last year.
Presumably this is why they mentioned wanting to branch out into online subscription services/games to make them less vulnerable to the pirate copying that is obviously a significant threat to a major part of there business.
Hopefully this new games division and its deal with Aventurine is not a desperate attempt to expand the business away from an increasingly un profitable enterprise.
The best i can hope for is Aventurin have a good running game that is still not shown to the public yet, until they are very polish, which only Audio have seen.
Than they will call for beta to further fine tune the game, and comes a short open beta. And we know words will spread very fast regarding this game from than on, and they really want to have a good word of mouth....
i really hope so for the sake of the current gene....
RIP Orc Choppa
If they would have signed with a US publisher than I would basically say that the game is in a decent state... but I'am almost positive that they will never get a USA publisher and be forced to self publish here too... and that's when everyone will know the game is doo-doo.. DnL could not get a publisher in the USA either for reasons already known.
God is a fucker send me to hell
They are going to setup an international distribution network. Just for DF. They saw the potential.
Yes, AVE is not the Publisher, Aventurine is publishing (that's why Tasos said they signed a deal with AVE as part of Aventurine's effort on a "self-publishing deal" - latest forum News update from Tasos).
So AVE is not involved in the making of the game, as traditionally Publishers are.
About the US version, Tasos has said they are looking for Publishers/Distributors in the US so AVE is not gonna be distributing there, only in the EU market...
So AVE (which, although inexperienced in gaming and retail, is a big company and not the comedy called Aventurine) is going to air Tasos arse, while he is pressing boxes and shipping them to the stores. And for that precious airing, they are going to get a 50% share of the sales.
Hm, ... makes sense.
YAY DF IS GONNA ROCK. STFU VAPORTROLLS, DON'T YOU SEE TEH FACTS HERE?
Yes, AVE is not the Publisher, Aventurine is publishing (that's why Tasos said they signed a deal with AVE as part of Aventurine's effort on a "self-publishing deal" - latest forum News update from Tasos).
So AVE is not involved in the making of the game, as traditionally Publishers are.
About the US version, Tasos has said they are looking for Publishers/Distributors in the US so AVE is not gonna be distributing there, only in the EU market...
So AVE (which, although inexperienced in gaming and retail, is a big company and not the comedy called Aventurine) is going to air Tasos arse, while he is pressing boxes and shipping them to the stores. And for that precious airing, they are going to get a 50% share of the sales.
Hm, ... makes sense.
YAY DF IS GONNA ROCK. STFU VAPORTROLLS, DON'T YOU SEE TEH FACTS HERE?
Youre wrong, its 35%.