Ultima Online Poll: Why Aren't you going back?

donjn

If so many of us love sandbox MMO's, why aren't we going back to Ultima Online? Time after time I see repeated posts about everyone's "perfect" game; and a lot of these posts lead straight to Ultima Online.

So here is a poll for you..

 

nariusseldon

You forget the option "there are even more people who do not like sandbox games and just want a good hack-n-slash".

Wolfenpride

Its an old game, chew on the same thing for years and you get tired of it.

Alot of us want somthing more modern.

Eve attracted plenty of sandbox customers as well.

donjn

Originally posted by nariusseldon


You forget the option "there are even more people who do not like sandbox games and just want a good hack-n-slash".

 

Yes but the scope of those people are outside of this website. From what I gather, there seems to be a growing demand for a sandbox mmo within this small community. This poll was directed at said small community.

shade633

Originally posted by nariusseldon


You forget the option "there are even more people who do not like sandbox games and just want a good hack-n-slash".

 

thats cause hack-n-slash is not an mmorpg, that would actually be considered a single player game, you can add multiplayer function and you have a game with a chat room and maybe someone to hack-n-slash with.

shade633

Originally posted by donjn


If so many of us love sandbox MMO's, why aren't we going back to Ultima Online? Time after time I see repeated posts about everyone's "perfect" game; and a lot of these posts lead straight to Ultima Online.

 

i honestly have to say that your right everyone does pretty much want a sandbox MMO but they want a new one, with a new story.  All games are at some point based around past and older games, Ultima Online has probably everything a game needs to have in it, and there is really not much more you can add to make it a better game as far as content.  But all that needs to be recreated maybe in a new universe or even in a familiar one, like Dragonlance maybe, even though thats associated with DnD you get the idea.

GungaDin

They just need to make classic servers.  Simple as that. 

Hexxeity

Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by nariusseldon


You forget the option "there are even more people who do not like sandbox games and just want a good hack-n-slash".

 

Yes but the scope of those people are outside of this website. From what I gather, there seems to be a growing demand for a sandbox mmo within this small community. This poll was directed at said small community.

 

Correction:  that demand exists within the small segment of this small community represented by the select few boards within MMORPG.com you choose to read.

In other words, a gnat's eyebrow.

donjn

Originally posted by Hexxeity

Originally posted by donjn

Originally posted by nariusseldon


You forget the option "there are even more people who do not like sandbox games and just want a good hack-n-slash".

 

Yes but the scope of those people are outside of this website. From what I gather, there seems to be a growing demand for a sandbox mmo within this small community. This poll was directed at said small community.

Correction:  that demand exists within the small segment of this small community represented by the select few boards within MMORPG.com you choose to read.

In other words, a gnat's eyebrow.

 

You are very frustrating to argue with. I will continue however...

It is safe to say that there are MMO fans outside of this website that also want a sandbox MMO. Go to other MMO boards and you will see this. Not ALL of them, but I am sure we can find some sandbox fans outside of the MMORPG site, dont ya think? lol

So what if my poll was directed at a "gnat's eyebrow". What's your point? That the poll is irrealevant? Fine. So is everything else. Aren't all posts here irrealevant?

Effect

It's to old of a game in the end for me. The game lags insanely for me and there is to much stop and go in terms of graphics lag. It's all leads back to the graphics and the actual client. As much as they try to change it the whole thing needs to be scrapped and completely redone from the ground up.

obii

For myself the big break came with AOS and the turn of UO to get itembased.

I tried to ignore that expansion and the following as best as possible and continued to roleplay, but each year less and less roleplayers were left.

 

EA does nothing to get new players and their events are halfhearted at best. They feel automated, devoid of human touch and are mostly just plain boring.

 

So I decided to check out the freeshard community and picked a sort of P16 shard with statloss and without the itme based gameplay. I cannot see myself return to EA as they have no intention to better the game but rather to keep it going and collect the monthly fees and for Warhammer to be a success.

 

 

MachoM

Too item based, PvP is dead, factions are dead, no open looting

Briansho

One big reason for me is they pretty much destroyed the lore of the Ultima games. The game feels and looks less and less like the Ultima universe with each expansion.

Coldren

Another option you may want to include:



Age of Shadows 

Nightsorrow

I am playing, but the UOKR client is really sucks, hard to use, with a lot of bugs, and relatively wasting system resource considering its graphical level.

And the Oceania server is pretty much dead, but connecting to a US server with 200-300 ping is almost unplayable in UO (I played US WoW with ~200 ping and is ok).

_Seeker

Originally posted by shade633

Originally posted by donjn


If so many of us love sandbox MMO's, why aren't we going back to Ultima Online? Time after time I see repeated posts about everyone's "perfect" game; and a lot of these posts lead straight to Ultima Online.

 

i honestly have to say that your right everyone does pretty much want a sandbox MMO but they want a new one, with a new story.  All games are at some point based around past and older games, Ultima Online has probably everything a game needs to have in it, and there is really not much more you can add to make it a better game as far as content.  But all that needs to be recreated maybe in a new universe or even in a familiar one, like Dragonlance maybe, even though thats associated with DnD you get the idea.

 

/agree

lapomme

I answered this exact poll on this site not too long ago and that one didn't have my reason either.  The population is way too small.  Even with the lame elves, I would still go back in a heartbeat if more people played it.

Obee

Originally posted by donjn


If so many of us love sandbox MMO's, why aren't we going back to Ultima Online? Time after time I see repeated posts about everyone's "perfect" game; and a lot of these posts lead straight to Ultima Online.
So here is a poll for you..
 

 

Those posts lead to what UO used to be.  UO has been in a nosedive since the Age of Shadows expansion (for many other former players, it was the Renaissance release that ruined the game).

I still don't understand why an actual classic ruleset server was never an option for EA.  They had shown they were willing to put up a server with a different ruleset with Siege Perilous.  Before anyone claims Siege was a classic ruleset server, it isn't.  Siege is a server that contains all the things that make the current version of UO not worth subscribing (artifacts, loot based equipment, elves, ninja, etc.,), with the added annoyance of having restrictions on placed on character development.  Sure it has open PvP, but it is still open PvP in a game with the current game's 'features'.

Unfortunately the folks at Mythic seem to have the same blindspot the former Origin developers had.  They claim to want to look forward, not backward.  The only thing that means is that all the good things that are no longer a part of the game, will not be a part of the game in the future.

 

Obee

Originally posted by obii


For myself the big break came with AOS and the turn of UO to get itembased.
I tried to ignore that expansion and the following as best as possible and continued to roleplay, but each year less and less roleplayers were left.
 
EA does nothing to get new players and their events are halfhearted at best. They feel automated, devoid of human touch and are mostly just plain boring.
 
So I decided to check out the freeshard community and picked a sort of P16 shard with statloss and without the itme based gameplay. I cannot see myself return to EA as they have no intention to better the game but rather to keep it going and collect the monthly fees and for Warhammer to be a success.
 
 

 

How sad is that, guy who has almost the same name as me, that amatures are doing a better job making developing their version of UO than the official development team has in the past five to six years?

 

Hrothmund

In my opinion the whole game is outdated, from the game mechanics to the graphics. Also, the hackers/exploiters haven't exactly run amok, but are still an annoying presence. Oh what I would give for well done remake! I seriously don't understand why one isn't in the works.

obii

Actually rumour is, that there is another dupe method in uo again. Is maybe why character transfer is down for the last 2 weeks., though I still wonder how selling gold can be profitable when 1 Million is sometimes as low as $0.5.

 

EA's problem is that they tackle things half heartedly (or sometimes with no thought at all). That there are duping methods which take months to half a year to stop is just no way to do business.

 

On a sideneote - EA changed wood/ore resources so that they are random now after you chop/mine - all of that because they may plan to change crafting in the future .....

They change on maybes and I still think that is one of the stupidest changes ever ... just to make the highend resources 'rare', pushing the game further to an itemgame.

Nightsorrow

About UO's economy, I don't see them balancing the inflow and outflow of currency.

Monsters keep bringing gold to the market from no where, while people mainly use the gold to buy stuff from other players, buying from players mean that the money is still in the market, but monsters still producing money, resulting in an unlimited increase in currency in the market, i.e. the item are more and more expensive but each gold worth less and less.

This is a problem.

When monsters are producing money from no where, there have to be some way to destroy the money as well, i.e. players spending money to npc. This is how the economy balanced, UO fails at this because you don't really need to spend much on npc. (yes UO concentrates on player to player crafting/trading, but still the economy have to be balance)

Vastar

 I didn't see my option, 'I'm only here reading this board while I wait for these two noobs to come back and do a house trade with a couple interesting non-blessed items for me to steal.'

 

 I'm so glad I can just play UO at it's best rather than complain about it.

IAmMMO

 For me UO really changed for the worse when AOS hit, which took the game in a direction that made it Ultima in name only. I really didn't like the new stats on all the items and the colour cons. I much preferred the way weapons and armour worked before AOS. With the Power or Vanquishing etc. As UO moved further and further away from the perfect Britannia medieval simulation that it was, the less I started to enjoy logging in to play until it was time to say goodbye.

insom69

the best mmo in history got ruined due to ea trying to make it the same as every other game i just wish it could go back to the way it was back in the day just one server is all i ask

Ezen_Surreal

The game is broke. To much bullsht. I remeber when it was good stuff.