I dont get it though? How do you have a blance with 2 races missing their 4th class? How can you say you are NEVER going to replace or fix the class? You cannot permanently delete these classes... I don't understand this reasoning at all. I am super pissed becasue I wanted to play a KoTBS.... Great give Mythic a cookie for telling us the content is cut (something all devs should do anyway) ahead of time, but they need to fix this. They can't PERMANENTLY DELETE these classes without replacing them.
Oh my god...do you read before spewing out nonsense? None of the content they are putting on hold will be permanently removed. I'm sorry about you KotBS, but try one of the other tanks. I mean seriously, the humans are going to need all the tanks they can get!
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You could always play a Squig Herder, they will have decent DPS. I am sure you can specialize yourself and/or your pet to be more effective in melee combat as well.
Me personally? I wanted to play a blackgaurd. I like their look, their mechanic, and their playstyle. I don't like the Black Orcs Mechanic and I can't say I love their look, Chosen I like the look but i don't like the mechanic/weapons. So if I want my mechanic I need to play a Dwarf and I absolutely 100% will never play a dwarf seriously EVER. I hate them. So I am basically left Classesless atm since my guild is going to be destruction. I don't like using pets unless it is fluid and doesn't take much micromanagement. I don't like playing female toons. And I don't like the marauder mutations. Magus Disc turns me off as well.
So I got Zealot, DoK, Shaman, and a sorcerer. So I HAVE to be a caster/healer if I play destruction when I wanted to be melee/damage class.
On the opposite side of the fence since I hate Dwarfs their goes 3 classes. Again removing the class mechanics that I don't like It leaves Shadow Warrior, Archmage, and Warrior priest. BW's hair just makes me hate the class.
Yes I am picky but playing a class that i enjoy is important to me. This isn't the big reason that I don't like the 4 classes being removed either so don't try and put it on me as I am just mad I lost my class. While I am mad I can see passed that look at the balance issues and the problems that others will also have with finding a class they like now.
How can you like the BlackGuard mechanic? They never really told us ANYTHING at all ever about how the blackguard plays, its career masteries or anything. No one knows what the blackguard would of played like not even the Beta Testers because he's never been in beta (check the herald!). Obviously there was a serious flaw with him to never come out of internal testing. Though I do agree he looked cool as hell.
You honestly can't comment on any toon's mechanic until your hands on. Sometimes reading about a character does not do it justice in how it comes out when actually playing it.
People crying over missing toons while I get that your upset (i really wanted to play a choppa but i'd already planned on several alternatives since I consider myself rather versitile when it comes to which role I want to play and a toons sexualitiy never mattered to me) ... there's still 20 others to try out and find one you might like. Be hands on with it before you decide there's no character for you...you might be surprised.
fungis...you should get some info straight...the missing cities...never been tested...the missing classes? No one's seen some of them since last year or at all...its kinda obvious they've been working with balance all along without them even involved. They can launch without the missing classes players who only built stradegies involving these missing characters will just have to adapt or move on.
btw OP you have the names messed up of the ones removed. The Orc Tank is still in the game.
You know, you don't HAVE to play the game. If your class isn't in there (Which I doubt, seeing how you draw conclusions based on writings, pictures and movies), stay out then.
I have read dozens of times now that the classes would be out permanetly that if the dyanmic works with PVP in the next stage of beta without those classes.
If they are going to replace them or re-do them and put them back in that is fine, I can accept that.
I dont get it though? How do you have a blance with 2 races missing their 4th class? How can you say you are NEVER going to replace or fix the class? You cannot permanently delete these classes... I don't understand this reasoning at all. I am super pissed becasue I wanted to play a KoTBS.... Great give Mythic a cookie for telling us the content is cut (something all devs should do anyway) ahead of time, but they need to fix this. They can't PERMANENTLY DELETE these classes without replacing them.
Oh my god...do you read before spewing out nonsense? None of the content they are putting on hold will be permanently removed. I'm sorry about you KotBS, but try one of the other tanks. I mean seriously, the humans are going to need all the tanks they can get!
The balance of the game is not dramatically affected by the loss of the four Careers. The Choppa and Hammerer were two sides of the same coin, and since their role and play style was similar, cutting them both at the same time ensured that the balance issues from having one and not the other were resolved.
The decision to drop the Knight (Order’s Aura Tank) and the Blackguard (Destruction’s Hatred Tank) was trickier. In the end, we wound up redistributing certain abilities to other Careers in order to create the balance that had originally been provided by these tanks. The one downside is the fact that this play style only exists in one of the three pairings.
In the end, we wound up with the following overall distribution:
10 Close Combat Careers
10 Ranged Careers
In addition, we worked hard to ensure neither side was missing a major Career type, such as a Pet Career for example. Both sides have the same number of Tanks, MDPS, RDPS, and Healer Careers to choose from. Fortunately, only the play style balance suffered."
Oh my god do you read before spewing out nonsense?
Edit: added link
EDIT2: "Nothing is set in stone" But the classes are not being planned on. I hope they at least release different or new ones.
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Oh my god...do you read before spewing out nonsense? None of the content they are putting on hold will be permanently removed. I'm sorry about you KotBS, but try one of the other tanks. I mean seriously, the humans are going to need all the tanks they can get!
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
They will most likely replace the classes, but the cities are just coming out after the release.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
Me personally? I wanted to play a blackgaurd. I like their look, their mechanic, and their playstyle. I don't like the Black Orcs Mechanic and I can't say I love their look, Chosen I like the look but i don't like the mechanic/weapons. So if I want my mechanic I need to play a Dwarf and I absolutely 100% will never play a dwarf seriously EVER. I hate them. So I am basically left Classesless atm since my guild is going to be destruction. I don't like using pets unless it is fluid and doesn't take much micromanagement. I don't like playing female toons. And I don't like the marauder mutations. Magus Disc turns me off as well.
So I got Zealot, DoK, Shaman, and a sorcerer. So I HAVE to be a caster/healer if I play destruction when I wanted to be melee/damage class.
On the opposite side of the fence since I hate Dwarfs their goes 3 classes. Again removing the class mechanics that I don't like It leaves Shadow Warrior, Archmage, and Warrior priest. BW's hair just makes me hate the class.
Yes I am picky but playing a class that i enjoy is important to me. This isn't the big reason that I don't like the 4 classes being removed either so don't try and put it on me as I am just mad I lost my class. While I am mad I can see passed that look at the balance issues and the problems that others will also have with finding a class they like now.
How can you like the BlackGuard mechanic? They never really told us ANYTHING at all ever about how the blackguard plays, its career masteries or anything. No one knows what the blackguard would of played like not even the Beta Testers because he's never been in beta (check the herald!). Obviously there was a serious flaw with him to never come out of internal testing. Though I do agree he looked cool as hell.
You honestly can't comment on any toon's mechanic until your hands on. Sometimes reading about a character does not do it justice in how it comes out when actually playing it.
People crying over missing toons while I get that your upset (i really wanted to play a choppa but i'd already planned on several alternatives since I consider myself rather versitile when it comes to which role I want to play and a toons sexualitiy never mattered to me) ... there's still 20 others to try out and find one you might like. Be hands on with it before you decide there's no character for you...you might be surprised.
fungis...you should get some info straight...the missing cities...never been tested...the missing classes? No one's seen some of them since last year or at all...its kinda obvious they've been working with balance all along without them even involved. They can launch without the missing classes players who only built stradegies involving these missing characters will just have to adapt or move on.
btw OP you have the names messed up of the ones removed. The Orc Tank is still in the game.
You know, you don't HAVE to play the game. If your class isn't in there (Which I doubt, seeing how you draw conclusions based on writings, pictures and movies), stay out then.
I have read dozens of times now that the classes would be out permanetly that if the dyanmic works with PVP in the next stage of beta without those classes.
If they are going to replace them or re-do them and put them back in that is fine, I can accept that.
Keeping them out completely is a major bummer.
Oh my god...do you read before spewing out nonsense? None of the content they are putting on hold will be permanently removed. I'm sorry about you KotBS, but try one of the other tanks. I mean seriously, the humans are going to need all the tanks they can get!
This is from their website:
How does this affect the balance of the game?
The balance of the game is not dramatically affected by the loss of the four Careers. The Choppa and Hammerer were two sides of the same coin, and since their role and play style was similar, cutting them both at the same time ensured that the balance issues from having one and not the other were resolved.
The decision to drop the Knight (Order’s Aura Tank) and the Blackguard (Destruction’s Hatred Tank) was trickier. In the end, we wound up redistributing certain abilities to other Careers in order to create the balance that had originally been provided by these tanks. The one downside is the fact that this play style only exists in one of the three pairings.
In the end, we wound up with the following overall distribution:
In addition, we worked hard to ensure neither side was missing a major Career type, such as a Pet Career for example. Both sides have the same number of Tanks, MDPS, RDPS, and Healer Careers to choose from. Fortunately, only the play style balance suffered."
Oh my god do you read before spewing out nonsense?
Edit: added link
EDIT2: "Nothing is set in stone" But the classes are not being planned on. I hope they at least release different or new ones.
For all those whose career choice got shelved, maybe they'll get a better replacement from the IP.
For example:-
Instead of Blackguard, maybe Corsair or Executioner
or Instead of Hammerer, Slayer (unlikely) or Longbeard.
There's a few other choices of Knight for Empire tanks that could make it in.
Not too sure about orc melee dps.
They'll either do a supefluous revamp of a career or two or we'll get a far superior replacement.
I'm glad they did this because I don't want dull or unacceptably poor avatars in a game.