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Failcom... ANOTHER GAME?

I was searching threads, and I found out that Failcom is making another game... "The Secret World"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ElHi2H8rfsQ

Why would they attempt to make another game, with Age of Conan in the condition it is... Bad idea...

That's my opinion though

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  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249

    I'm fully convinced after playing AoC for nearly two months that FunCom is run by a bunch of trained monkeys...and not well trained ones at that.

  • NarsheNarshe Member Posts: 563

    Old news.. move along.

    Waiting for Fallen Earth, World of Darkness, Old Republic, FFXIV

  • HairysunHairysun Member UncommonPosts: 1,059

      I believe it was Mr. P.T. Barnum that coined the phrase .....

    "There's a sucker born every minute."

      My point?  Funcom will create another game, hype the shit out of it like they did with AoC and release it in the condition they released both Anarchy Online and Age of Conan.  They will do quite well ....and why?

      Ask Mr. Barnum .....

     

    ~Hairysun~

     

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Who cares what Funcom is working on? I know for a fact that I will never buy another Funcom product again. Not because of the current state of AoC but because of the lies and deciet that surrounded AoC's release.

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  • Originally posted by xaldraxius


    I'm fully convinced after playing AoC for nearly two months that FunCom is run by a bunch of trained monkeys...and not well trained ones at that.

     

    While I agree with this, taking people off the other game would do no good.  Doing so would actually show them to be completely retarded monkeys rather than poorly trained monkeys.

  • OpticaleyeOpticaleye Member Posts: 498

    Im not sure what you guys expected here at launch.

     

    Perfection?

    Anyone who has played an mmo for the last 5 years  KNOWS that the product in question is NEVER finished.I dont P2P for the game to be perfect i play it for ongoing content.

    If i wanted a perfect game it certainly is not an online game.A perfect game is 1 that is offline and never crashes and does not (most of the time) require a internet connection.

    I dont understand how you can expect at launch anything except a playable game at bare minimum.

    What i find even more amusing is that now WarHammer online is expected to release  with fewer features than what was being developed.I suppose that when they saw the sales total of 700k or so it turned into a panic to get it out.Who knows its not as if they will admit it.

    As far as Conan is concerned FC has the background to make this a success.Its shown that with its other game AO it can do this.Already they are showing initiative with 1nce a week updates.

    Im not a fanboi trust me there are things with AoC that i do not like.I think part of the problem is hype and expectation.

    Warhammer will launch soon with fewer features than expected.I guess the same thing will happen then.I dont know but ive learned to lower my expectations at any mmo release.

    What is your physical limit?

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by Opticaleye

    Warhammer will launch soon with fewer features than expected.I guess the same thing will happen then.I dont know but ive learned to lower my expectations at any mmo release.

    difference is:  Mythic is announcing what wont be in the game for launch

     

    Funcom never made any similar announcements for what -wont -be in AOC for release

    (unless you want to count Funcom announcing "no DX10" buried in a Press Release for CE SOLD OUT  -- 2 days before release)

     

    Funcom could have announced that PVP Blood Money got dropped / delayed

     

    on topic,

    many companies develop many games -- its no big deal

  • DelanorDelanor Member Posts: 659
    Originally posted by Opticaleye


    I dont understand how you can expect at launch anything except a playable game at bare minimum.



     

    Of course people expect a full game for the full price. It is a sad affair when this is not the case.

    --
    Delanor

  • TheSheikhTheSheikh Member Posts: 804
    Originally posted by Opticaleye


    Im not sure what you guys expected here at launch.
     
    Perfection?
    Anyone who has played an mmo for the last 5 years  KNOWS that the product in question is NEVER finished.I dont P2P for the game to be perfect i play it for ongoing content.
    If i wanted a perfect game it certainly is not an online game.A perfect game is 1 that is offline and never crashes and does not (most of the time) require a internet connection.
    I dont understand how you can expect at launch anything except a playable game at bare minimum.
    What i find even more amusing is that now WarHammer online is expected to release  with fewer features than what was being developed.I suppose that when they saw the sales total of 700k or so it turned into a panic to get it out.Who knows its not as if they will admit it.
    As far as Conan is concerned FC has the background to make this a success.Its shown that with its other game AO it can do this.Already they are showing initiative with 1nce a week updates.
    Im not a fanboi trust me there are things with AoC that i do not like.I think part of the problem is hype and expectation.
    Warhammer will launch soon with fewer features than expected.I guess the same thing will happen then.I dont know but ive learned to lower my expectations at any mmo release.



    Not features, just 4 areas and 4 classes. You can still City siege, and you can still PvP at all tiers in the lands currently without capital cities. Features are still there, just less variety.

    STOP WHINING!

  • courtsdadcourtsdad Member Posts: 326
    Originally posted by Opticaleye


    Im not sure what you guys expected here at launch.
     
    Perfection?
    Anyone who has played an mmo for the last 5 years  KNOWS that the product in question is NEVER finished.I dont P2P for the game to be perfect i play it for ongoing content.
    If i wanted a perfect game it certainly is not an online game.A perfect game is 1 that is offline and never crashes and does not (most of the time) require a internet connection.
    I dont understand how you can expect at launch anything except a playable game at bare minimum.
    What i find even more amusing is that now WarHammer online is expected to release  with fewer features than what was being developed.I suppose that when they saw the sales total of 700k or so it turned into a panic to get it out.Who knows its not as if they will admit it.
    As far as Conan is concerned FC has the background to make this a success.Its shown that with its other game AO it can do this.Already they are showing initiative with 1nce a week updates.
    Im not a fanboi trust me there are things with AoC that i do not like.I think part of the problem is hype and expectation.
    Warhammer will launch soon with fewer features than expected.I guess the same thing will happen then.I dont know but ive learned to lower my expectations at any mmo release.



     

    Your questions have been answered 1000 times both here and over at AOCs forums. People werent expecting perfection, just quality. ( if they were they were foolish as you pointed out) To many it hasnt even reached average yet.

    The company is to blame more than anything. Go back and look at all of their press, then go log in. Notice anything(s) missing?

    And yes if WH does the same thing expect an even bigger backlash. It seems players are finally growing tired of lies and subpar workmanship

  • OpticaleyeOpticaleye Member Posts: 498

    Hey look i understand disappointment i really do.

    Believe me this is not it.

    You know what disappointment is?

    The 1st year of Anarchy Online.Thats right i played that title from the same developer in its 1st year.I played it for 2 years as a matter of fact.

    You think THIS IS BAD?!?!?!

    OMG you have no idea how good this is in comparison.Constantly crashing.Get a mission almost finish and disconnect.Log back in start over.Lag spikes like you would not believe.FPS in the 10's so unplayable its not funny.

    This was on DIALUP!!

    But ya know what happened a year later?

    It won game of the year:ARTICLE right here.Not to mention that Notum Wars won expansion pack of the year as well.

    Look i know most people are disappointed but im willing to give this some time to flesh itself out based upon Funcom's track record.All im saying is exercise some  patience.

    Give it a year lets see what happens.

     

    What is your physical limit?

  • SnowcapSnowcap Member Posts: 8
    Originally posted by Opticaleye



    Give it a year lets see what happens.
     

     

    I'll gladly give it a year but I won't be paying for it during that year.

  • bsmith239bsmith239 Member Posts: 108
    Originally posted by Opticaleye


    Im not sure what you guys expected here at launch.
     
    Perfection?
    Anyone who has played an mmo for the last 5 years  KNOWS that the product in question is NEVER finished.I dont P2P for the game to be perfect i play it for ongoing content.
    If i wanted a perfect game it certainly is not an online game.A perfect game is 1 that is offline and never crashes and does not (most of the time) require a internet connection.
    I dont understand how you can expect at launch anything except a playable game at bare minimum.
    What i find even more amusing is that now WarHammer online is expected to release  with fewer features than what was being developed.I suppose that when they saw the sales total of 700k or so it turned into a panic to get it out.Who knows its not as if they will admit it.
    As far as Conan is concerned FC has the background to make this a success.Its shown that with its other game AO it can do this.Already they are showing initiative with 1nce a week updates.
    Im not a fanboi trust me there are things with AoC that i do not like.I think part of the problem is hype and expectation.
    Warhammer will launch soon with fewer features than expected.I guess the same thing will happen then.I dont know but ive learned to lower my expectations at any mmo release.

     

    Um sir I will point to LotRO as an example of a game that was very well launched. Proof that not all games are a buggy mess at launch.

    I am a forum troll hunter. Be afraid trolls, very afraid!

  • OpticaleyeOpticaleye Member Posts: 498

    Yeah Yeah Yeah so it launched perfectly i can see there is no patience in this thread so ill go log in to AoC and enjoy it.

    What is your physical limit?

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


    I'm fully convinced after playing AoC for nearly two months that FunCom is run by a bunch of trained monkeys...and not well trained ones at that.

    /signed

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by Opticaleye



    Give it a year lets see what happens.
     

     

    Um, how about no.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • cukimungacukimunga Member UncommonPosts: 2,258

    They will have it finish by the time its released for the 360...       I think they shouldn't have even made Conan and stuck with a Sci-fi mmo.  AO was a sweet game IMO.

  • HairysunHairysun Member UncommonPosts: 1,059
    Originally posted by Opticaleye


    Yeah Yeah Yeah so it launched perfectly i can see there is no patience in this thread so ill go log in to AoC and enjoy it.

     

    Lol ...... has it ever crossed your mind that this "Patience" attitude you speak of is what enables the developers to release games way before their time.  A year before it's time with AoC, as you said.

      Perhaps if the players would quit buying into the BS that these companies dish out, a few more of them would release a quality game.  Just a thought......

     

    ~Hairysun~

     

  • OpticaleyeOpticaleye Member Posts: 498
    Originally posted by TheSheikh

    Originally posted by Opticaleye


    Im not sure what you guys expected here at launch.
     
    Perfection?
    Anyone who has played an mmo for the last 5 years  KNOWS that the product in question is NEVER finished.I dont P2P for the game to be perfect i play it for ongoing content.
    If i wanted a perfect game it certainly is not an online game.A perfect game is 1 that is offline and never crashes and does not (most of the time) require a internet connection.
    I dont understand how you can expect at launch anything except a playable game at bare minimum.
    What i find even more amusing is that now WarHammer online is expected to release  with fewer features than what was being developed.I suppose that when they saw the sales total of 700k or so it turned into a panic to get it out.Who knows its not as if they will admit it.
    As far as Conan is concerned FC has the background to make this a success.Its shown that with its other game AO it can do this.Already they are showing initiative with 1nce a week updates.
    Im not a fanboi trust me there are things with AoC that i do not like.I think part of the problem is hype and expectation.
    Warhammer will launch soon with fewer features than expected.I guess the same thing will happen then.I dont know but ive learned to lower my expectations at any mmo release.



    Not features, just 4 areas and 4 classes. You can still City siege, and you can still PvP at all tiers in the lands currently without capital cities. Features are still there, just less variety.

     

    Hmm sounds familiar........like Age of Conan .........Still able to PvP limited areas to do so in and.....player built towns....still in the game......interesting......oh but wait AoC has more classes to play.....

    Well ...........sounds like the way AoC launched?

    What is your physical limit?

  • OpticaleyeOpticaleye Member Posts: 498
    Originally posted by Hairysun

    Originally posted by Opticaleye


    Yeah Yeah Yeah so it launched perfectly i can see there is no patience in this thread so ill go log in to AoC and enjoy it.

     

    Lol ...... has it ever crossed your mind that this "Patience" attitude you speak of is what enables the developers to release games way before their time.  A year before it's time with AoC, as you said.

      Perhaps if the players would quit buying into the BS that these companies dish out, a few more of them would release a quality game.  Just a thought......

     

    ~Hairysun~

     

     

    TBH i could not agree with you more.Ive seen in the last decade a repeated trend of overhyping a game and players wanting their game to be the game that will"change gaming forever".

    It happens over and over again:Tabula Rasa ring a bell anyone?How about the WoW expansion and the player that got to lvl 70 in just under a day?

     

    What is your physical limit?

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by Opticaleye 
    Hmm sounds familiar........like Age of Conan .........Still able to PvP limited areas to do so in and.....player built towns....still in the game......interesting......oh but wait AoC has more classes to play.....
    Well ...........sounds like the way AoC launched?

     

    You know what the major difference is? The simple fact that Mythic is letting their potential customers know what is going to be missing at launch. The customer is making the purchase fully aware of the state of the game. Funcom only said that drunken brawling was non-functional. Everything else, including DX10 was working, or so they claimed. After June 20th, when the game officially launched, they pushed the release of DX10 to sometime later.

    Not to mention that almost all of the features were completely broken when AoC launched. The god damn stats didn't work.

    In short, no, it sounds absolutely nothing like AoC when it was launched.

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  • OpticaleyeOpticaleye Member Posts: 498
    Originally posted by heartless

    Originally posted by Opticaleye 
    Hmm sounds familiar........like Age of Conan .........Still able to PvP limited areas to do so in and.....player built towns....still in the game......interesting......oh but wait AoC has more classes to play.....
    Well ...........sounds like the way AoC launched?

     

    You know what the major difference is? The simple fact that Mythic is letting their potential customers know what is going to be missing at launch. The customer is making the purchase fully aware of the state of the game. Funcom only said that drunken brawling was non-functional. Everything else, including DX10 was working, or so they claimed. After June 20th, when the game officially launched, they pushed the release of DX10 to sometime later.

    Not to mention that almost all of the features were completely broken when AoC launched. The god damn stats didn't work.

    In short, no, it sounds absolutely nothing like AoC when it was launched.

    Im sorry but most people havent even played Warhammer yet so its really pure speculation at this point.

    Lets just speculate that the warhammer letter to its community never went out.What then?More importantly why did they feel the need to do so?

    Ill tell you why Mythic saw the somewhat negative feedback surrounding AoC and realized they better fess up BEFORE launch not after.Kudos to them for doing so anyway but it still remains they had to do it.

    All of it as a result of overhyping its game with an over the top spokesman.At least they had the luxury and foresite to cover their asses.

    What is your physical limit?

  • NuichNuich Member UncommonPosts: 123

    I am not one to post in these types of threads, but, I figured I would let you know why I canceled my Pre-Ordered CE. Being in closed and Open beta really opened my eyes on what type of company I would be dealing with. Lies were told and then others on top of that to cover up the earlier lies.

    There were times I really wanted to let folks know what they were dealing with, but as with anything on this and other forums, if you posted anything negative about the game, you were a troll, hater etc, plus I am not a rich man and could not take a chance with my luck on Fraudcon actually nailing me with a breach of the NDA.. I really loved the first 20 levels in the game, after that it really went downhill. We knew that A LOT of the promised systems and such would not be in there on launch, even though Fraudcon said it would, there was no way possible of it happening with all the bugs and lack of systems.

    I really wanted and still do want the game to succeed. Granted I will never return to a Fraudcon game, but being an avid Conan fan for over 30 years, I really wanted to find a home in the world that I came to love and adore.

    Anyway, thanks for reading this ramble, flame it, take it as you will, Fraudcon failed the players with lies and coverups. Everyone has their own opinions and can believe what they wish. I will never give money to anyone who lies to me, I demand the same respect that they wish to have. Sooner or later the players will get tired of paying for half finished game(then again maybe not)

    Peace

    Nuich

     

    "Now remember, things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is."

    -- The Outlaw Josey Wales

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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by Opticaleye 
    Im sorry but most people havent even played Warhammer yet so its really pure speculation at this point.
    Lets just speculate that the warhammer letter to its community never went out.What then?More importantly why did they feel the need to do so?
    Ill tell you why Mythic saw the somewhat negative feedback surrounding AoC and realized they better fess up BEFORE launch not after.Kudos to them for doing so anyway but it still remains they had to do it.
    All of it as a result of overhyping its game with an over the top spokesman.At least they had the luxury and foresite to cover their asses.

     

    Let's assume that Funcom made such a letter to the community, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. The fact is that the letter went out telling the community of the reasons for removing certain aspects. That's all that matters. Mythic did the right thing by letting potential customers know, Funcom, on the other hand, knew very well what is going to be missing at launch, yet they said absolutely nothing to the community. The big difference is that both Mythic and Funcom had previous experience with MMOs. The difference is that Mythic learned from it and applied it to their new game. Funcom didn't.

    Besides that, I highly doubt that Warhammer will be released in the same state as AoC was. After the backlash caused by Funcom's release, they would be stupid to release their game in a similar state.

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  • Gamefreek333Gamefreek333 Member Posts: 166

    WAR ALL THE WAY!

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