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Before I start I did Pre-order the CE and will play the game before I judge it at all good our bad. That be said wow some of the fanboyism is approuching AOC levels lol And we see what happened there. Even up to today there are peeps there who refuse to see what they are playing and will tell you everything is perfect. Now the several peoples in these forums points that not everyone having a racial city and missing player classes is a valid one. And one I share but I will wait and see if they can add the content back in when its ready , Hopefully it will be added down the line. But please dont blast people because they done beleive what you do. And the if dont agree with me there is the door routine is tired and sad.

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  • PureChaosPureChaos Member Posts: 839
    Originally posted by MichaelCr


    Before I start I did Pre-order the CE and will play the game before I judge it at all good our bad. That be said wow some of the fanboyism is approuching AOC levels lol And we see what happened there. Even up to today there are peeps there who refuse to see what they are playing and will tell you everything is perfect. Now the several peoples in these forums points that not everyone having a racial city and missing player classes is a valid one. And one I share but I will wait and see if they can add the content back in when its ready , Hopefully it will be added down the line. But please dont blast people because they done beleive what you do. And the if dont agree with me there is the door routine is tired and sad.

    i really dont care what people do with the game its just i hate the amount of misinformation their is on these forums, i dont know how many people think that the city cut means their whole zone is gone, or their starting areas got cut . Or do horrible math and say 2/3 of the game is gone.

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  • Capn23Capn23 Member Posts: 1,529
    Originally posted by MichaelCr


    Before I start I did Pre-order the CE and will play the game before I judge it at all good our bad. That be said wow some of the fanboyism is approuching AOC levels lol And we see what happened there. Even up to today there are peeps there who refuse to see what they are playing and will tell you everything is perfect. Now the several peoples in these forums points that not everyone having a racial city and missing player classes is a valid one. And one I share but I will wait and see if they can add the content back in when its ready , Hopefully it will be added down the line. But please dont blast people because they done beleive what you do. And the if dont agree with me there is the door routine is tired and sad.



     

    They aren't cutting content, they are phasing it in after launch. I don't see anything wrong with that.

     

    We still have 4 different types of tanks. I'm on the edge between playing a Shadow Warrior and a Black Orc

     

    I just don't see how the sky is falling because 10% of the world won't be there at launch. I'm getting the feeling warrior priests and DoK's will be able to tank until level 7.

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  • CendhariaCendharia Member UncommonPosts: 319
    Originally posted by MichaelCr


    Before I start I did Pre-order the CE and will play the game before I judge it at all good our bad. That be said wow some of the fanboyism is approuching AOC levels lol And we see what happened there. Even up to today there are peeps there who refuse to see what they are playing and will tell you everything is perfect. Now the several peoples in these forums points that not everyone having a racial city and missing player classes is a valid one. And one I share but I will wait and see if they can add the content back in when its ready , Hopefully it will be added down the line. But please dont blast people because they done beleive what you do. And the if dont agree with me there is the door routine is tired and sad.



     

    What I don't understand..is why the PANIC BUTTON is pushed every time some changes take place....as if its the end of the world.

    It is NOT the end of the world....things change because they need to change...period.   I think the people who know best about that ...are the Dev team...don't you?

    Furthermore it is ONLY the capital cities and 4 classes cut or delayed at this time..........so that the rest of the game can still be launched in the timeframe that has been planned.

    Logical thinking and coherent reasoning...are not fanboyism.     I just refuse to get on the "Bandwagon of Hysteria"....that seems to permeate each and every gaming forum prior to a game release.

    If you or others are unhappy that certain things are being delayed due to problems and needing to be changed or altered to better fit................well I don't know what to tell you other than,   they can't pull rabbits from their hats if there's no rabbit..or if it happens to be a turtle instead.   :P

    Patience really is a virtue....even these days...wish more people would practice it.

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    A few things and then I'm probably signing off these threads as I've said here and elsewhere everything that I can say regarding these changes. Over the next few weeks we'll be talking a lot more, especially after the NDA lift.



    1) For those that are saying that they should cancel their pre-order, that they feel betrayed after ordering it, well, if that's how you feel, you should do exactly that. That's why we made these announcements now and didn't hold them back just before release (when it would be too late to cancel) or not even make them at all. So, I can understand people being upset but saying that we weren't acting with integrity is just wrong.



    2) Regarding this content going in as paid expansion packs, not likely. We want to give out plenty of free/subscription content, just like in DAoC, if you're a subscriber, you get the content as part of your monthly fee as these things are part of the plan. Now, just so we're clear again, I'm not sure that these 4 careers will go back into the game now or ever. They'll only go in if they are great. We want to get the next city pairing in as soon as possible but only after we are sure that we've had enough time to fix what will inevitably go wrong with the the first pairing and make sure that it goes into the second pairing. We do not, repeat do not, have any plans to make this content available as a separate expansion pack.



    3) Regarding other MMORPGs and cut content, there has never been a single large-scale MMORPG that hasn't cut out ideas/content that might have looked good either on paper or even during development. That's just how it goes when you are working on a game that can take anywhere from 3-6 years to develop that has as many systems/features/content as these games. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been paying enough attention to a MMO development or is being less than truthful. Things change all the time during development and sometimes things that are cut are cut for the best reasons.



    4) Regarding the concept that everything was in the game and working great and that we only delayed the game for polish, sorry but that is not true. When we announced the delay for Fall I said:



    http://warherald.warhammeronline.com...le.war?id=111:



    "During the most recent phase of beta testing, two things have become clear. One was that our key innovations - Public Quests, Tome of Knowledge and Realm vs. Realm combat - were all coming along very well, as was the first stage of our innovative crafting system. The second, that the game would benefit from additional iteration time as well as adding a layer of polish or two. Fortunately, as part of Electronic Arts, we are able to do just that."



    Iteration time + additional polish time. Here on WHA I also talked about iteration time and polish time as two separate things. I'm sorry, like I said, I can understand people being upset but when they say I said that everything was great and all we needed was polish time, that's simply untrue.

    I think people need to reread this statement...I think I got the gist of it the first time around...however, some folks seem so busy reading between the lines...they don't read what is actually stated.   

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  • gFizgFiz Member Posts: 153

    I suspect once NDA drops you'll understand how this is just an unbelievable move for the bad....between the classes and the cities...

  • PureChaosPureChaos Member Posts: 839
    Originally posted by gFiz


    I suspect once NDA drops you'll understand how this is just an unbelievable move for the bad....between the classes and the cities...

     

    iv only heard and seen good i mean like most we are dissapointed but still fun and it works, if you can show some disgruntled beta players go for it.

    Iv mainly heard it works better cause the mass is now in a area fighting not w/e

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  • Capn23Capn23 Member Posts: 1,529
    Originally posted by gFiz


    I suspect once NDA drops you'll understand how this is just an unbelievable move for the bad....between the classes and the cities...



     

    I suspect we will have to wait for the NDA to drop to see. I also suspect that you will keep on saying that this game will be terrible like your word is gospel.

     

    obvious troll is obvious.

     

    Time to go twoll huntin'!

     

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