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The PR goes on
Alan0n
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Funcom PR ppl were at E3 talking about the great launch and their polished game !
http://www.massively.com/2008/07/15/e308-erling-ellingsen-talks-patch-timeframes-for-age-of-conan/
On official forums
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=135004
Now - this is why I hang around to warn ppl what is really going on. They are still lying to ppl. And some of us need to make sure all the ppl they are trying to fool know what Funcom stands for.
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I think some of the biggest problems is that players have become so jaded that once they form their opinion, they are incapable of stepping back and trying to look objectivly.
They stating that AoC is Polished - Wrong
You Stating that AoC is terrible - Also wrong
The real answer lies in between, the vast majority of the AoC playerbase (the ones who dont frequent the forums) say "AoC is a Decent game" ...not the next diety of online gaming and not the biggest failure of all time...just a decent game
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
"How do you feel about the transition from the Beta to Live experience? It seemed as though those final patches changed a number of things and smoothed things out.
A lot of people were saying that we put in "miracle patches", and it really feels that way. Even for us at Funcom, the last couple of weeks was a real turnaround. We knew we were on track, but the last few weeks before launch everything just came together. That's the thing about MMOs, though, they can look unfinished for so long and suddenly all the pieces of the puzzle fit together. Thank god!"
Vomit material
And its stupid things like this that they say that gives them even less credability.
The miracle patches were nothing more then removing of animations/effects and reducing the number of players in each instance and the removal of the debugger in the background. For being such a super-instanced game AoC's performance is really really bad.
And its stupid things like this that they say that gives them even less credability.
What he is saying is actually not stupid, everyone who knows about this game knows that there was a patch just before release that turned the game around.
He is stating fact no more no less so it cant possibly affect his credability unless of course you have a biased view from the start.
laughable
And its stupid things like this that they say that gives them even less credability.
What he is saying is actually not stupid, everyone who knows about this game knows that that there was a patch just before release that turned the game around.
He is stating fact no more no less.
There was no miracle about those patches. Maybe it was for Funcom cause the closed beta servers were unplayble for a whole week cause of the 10k lag issue.
But Im pretty sure that the ppl that payed for the game and are STILL not able to play cause of memory leaks and FPS issues dont look at those patches as miracles.
But... to point out another http://vault.ign.com/View.php?view=editorials.detail&id=71
"Conan’s launch was one of the most successful launches ever for a mmorpg save for a few customer services issues that have since been remedied. "
Ye... the customer service problems were that some customers were able to publicly complain on official forums I guess... before they were banned and posts deleted. But like said - this has now been taken care of. If you dont belive me - then I can point out that the link to the tread about this interview has been deleted from the official forums. Why ? Becuase ppl were outrageus about the crap beeing said in that interview.
Well as far as i know, as i didnt play beta, the beta players were under the impression that the game would crash and burn since it was so laggy, only to find that it was patched just before release.
So from going from "crash and burn" to playable is some form of a miracle from the players point of view, check back in these forums and you will see for yourself, the posts indicating that it will fail.
As far as memory leaks go now, they may still exisit but tbh i dont experience them. That doest mean to say that they are not there however. But ultimately they will be fixed.
I actually consider the release a success, why, beacue i could log on without queuing i had no major bugs and did not crash, compared to other games i would say that that is a successful launch.
As for customer services, i do think they were overwhelmed with issues, but that is not just down to Funcom, as there were 1000s if not more petitions on things that people simply didn't know how to do, and instead of going to find out, they would rasie a petition, which will need to read and addressed before being discarded, all this take time. So yes they were lacking but thus is not soley there fault. And ultimately the servers were up almost 100%.
It is a good thing people like you and the SWG "Vets" are there to look out for us.
I mean, who knows what would happen if we actually had to decide for ourselves...
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
And ultimately a human beeing will be standing on Mars. I wonder if those PCs getting him there will have memory leaks.... You know... all programs have bugs....
6 months into his trip to mars we will see patch 1.45 that will fix few issues and then ... add few things back like they were. Like for example XP for grey quests !!! Oh the fun.
Thx good Funcom did not talk about trips to Mars on their AOC box. They could have you know... And ultimetly.... you know... " MMOs are never finished".
You will be able when this game goes free trial. Until then its pure PR time. And you think Funcom cares as long as they get their money ?
And its stupid things like this that they say that gives them even less credability.
What he is saying is actually not stupid, everyone who knows about this game knows that that there was a patch just before release that turned the game around.
He is stating fact no more no less.
There was no miracle about those patches. Maybe it was for Funcom cause the closed beta servers were unplayble for a whole week cause of the 10k lag issue.
But Im pretty sure that the ppl that payed for the game and are STILL not able to play cause of memory leaks and FPS issues dont look at those patches as miracles.
But... to point out another http://vault.ign.com/View.php?view=editorials.detail&id=71
"Conan’s launch was one of the most successful launches ever for a mmorpg save for a few customer services issues that have since been remedied. "
Ye... the customer service problems were that some customers were able to publicly complain on official forums I guess... before they were banned and posts deleted. But like said - this has now been taken care of. If you dont belive me - then I can point out that the link to the tread about this interview has been deleted from the official forums. Why ? Becuase ppl were outrageus about the crap beeing said in that interview.
There was a miracle patch in beta. Accept it and move on...
Don't care what the game state is now, there was a patch that doubled everyones FPS and fixed numerous graphical bugs and gliches. So no they aren't lying when they say that there was a miracle patch.
Also maybe they lied their way into selling all those retail boxes, but the fact is that they sold around 500k copies in the first week (or was it two?) and that makes AoC a game with one of the most successful MMO launches in history of MMO and that is a fact.
Doesn't matter how the game plays for you or how you feel about AoC, those things they said in these quotes are facts and they weren't lieing about it. No need to bash everything about Funcom, that makes you people worst then they are.
And its stupid things like this that they say that gives them even less credability.
What he is saying is actually not stupid, everyone who knows about this game knows that that there was a patch just before release that turned the game around.
He is stating fact no more no less.
There was no miracle about those patches. Maybe it was for Funcom cause the closed beta servers were unplayble for a whole week cause of the 10k lag issue.
But Im pretty sure that the ppl that payed for the game and are STILL not able to play cause of memory leaks and FPS issues dont look at those patches as miracles.
But... to point out another http://vault.ign.com/View.php?view=editorials.detail&id=71
"Conan’s launch was one of the most successful launches ever for a mmorpg save for a few customer services issues that have since been remedied. "
Ye... the customer service problems were that some customers were able to publicly complain on official forums I guess... before they were banned and posts deleted. But like said - this has now been taken care of. If you dont belive me - then I can point out that the link to the tread about this interview has been deleted from the official forums. Why ? Becuase ppl were outrageus about the crap beeing said in that interview.
There was a miracle patch in beta. Accept it and move on...
Don't care what the game state is now, there was a patch that doubled everyones FPS and fixed numerous graphical bugs and gliches. So no they aren't lying when they say that there was a miracle patch.
Also maybe they lied their way into selling all those retail boxes, but the fact is that they sold around 500k copies in the first week (or was it two?) and that makes AoC a game with one of the most successful MMO launches in history of MMO and that is a fact.
Doesn't matter how the game plays for you or how you feel about AoC, those things they said in these quotes are facts and they weren't lieing about it. No need to bash everything about Funcom, that makes you people worst then they are.
Its still pure PR and you know it. And you also know that 500k sold boxes was because of PR - not because of the quality of the game.
There was no miracle patch. They removed the debugger like has been stated above by another poster. OFC that increased the FPS - but it did not fix the memory leaks for alot of ppl - and if you care to read then you might notice that last few patches have been causing new memory leaks for new ppl that were able to play before.
Now - thats bad programming in the first place. It has nothing to do with miracles.
lol well, good job they didnt talk about trips to Mars as you may have well bought it thinking it was true!
To be fair, in the case of SWG they at least have free trials up. That game can burn on its own merits, and at no cost to you.
So far as I have heard...there is no free trial here. So the lies perpetuated by the company DO sort of need some opposition in order to at least inform people BEFORE making a purchase. If you had to decide for yourself (and are among the many of us who would find a 50$ investment that leads to disappointment substantial loss) then you would simply be out the money and time.
Dunno 'bout you, hoss....but I ain't gettin' no younger. Ain't gettin' no richer either.
lol well, good job they didnt talk about trips to Mars as you may have well bought it thinking it was true!
There was same chance they would get a person to Mars as getting DX10 into the game. The close beta testers knew that but were not allowed to talk about it. Yes - its actually quite funny to think there was the same chance ... It will help you get the right picture about PR and the truth when it comes to watching what Funcom said and what was actually going on in closed beta at the time. But there was no miracles involved l8ter on. Cause then... we might have a man on Mars already.
And its stupid things like this that they say that gives them even less credability.
What he is saying is actually not stupid, everyone who knows about this game knows that that there was a patch just before release that turned the game around.
He is stating fact no more no less.
There was no miracle about those patches. Maybe it was for Funcom cause the closed beta servers were unplayble for a whole week cause of the 10k lag issue.
But Im pretty sure that the ppl that payed for the game and are STILL not able to play cause of memory leaks and FPS issues dont look at those patches as miracles.
But... to point out another http://vault.ign.com/View.php?view=editorials.detail&id=71
"Conan’s launch was one of the most successful launches ever for a mmorpg save for a few customer services issues that have since been remedied. "
Ye... the customer service problems were that some customers were able to publicly complain on official forums I guess... before they were banned and posts deleted. But like said - this has now been taken care of. If you dont belive me - then I can point out that the link to the tread about this interview has been deleted from the official forums. Why ? Becuase ppl were outrageus about the crap beeing said in that interview.
There was a miracle patch in beta. Accept it and move on...
Don't care what the game state is now, there was a patch that doubled everyones FPS and fixed numerous graphical bugs and gliches. So no they aren't lying when they say that there was a miracle patch.
Also maybe they lied their way into selling all those retail boxes, but the fact is that they sold around 500k copies in the first week (or was it two?) and that makes AoC a game with one of the most successful MMO launches in history of MMO and that is a fact.
Doesn't matter how the game plays for you or how you feel about AoC, those things they said in these quotes are facts and they weren't lieing about it. No need to bash everything about Funcom, that makes you people worst then they are.
Its still pure PR and you know it. And you also know that 500k sold boxes was because of PR - not because of the quality of the game.
There was no miracle patch. They removed the debugger like has been stated above by another poster. OFC that increased the FPS - but it did not fix the memory leaks for alot of ppl - and if you care to read then you might notice that last few patches have been causing new memory leaks for new ppl that were able to play before.
Now - thats bad programming in the first place. It has nothing to do with miracles.
I agree with you, but the second part of your post talks about now, and I talked about what happened before.
I'm not playing AoC atm, so I have no clue whats happening with recent patches.
And its stupid things like this that they say that gives them even less credability.
What he is saying is actually not stupid, everyone who knows about this game knows that there was a patch just before release that turned the game around.
He is stating fact no more no less so it cant possibly affect his credability unless of course you have a biased view from the start.
Yes, there was a patch right before the game was launched that improved most people's FPS issues. However, then you have people like me who experienced great FPS before the patch and started to get 10FPS after the patch. So miracle patch for some, crappy patch for others. The same patch also removed the jumping animation and the water collision. So all-in-all, it wasn't that great.
To stay on topic, after skimming to the above massively article, I just want to know, where do these people get the nerve to outright lie about the state of their game? Early release was only about 2 months ago and most people who were there still remember it.
What kind of crap is that ffs!!! You need to get your priorities straight. There are devs out there right now destroying lives!!! OP keep it up dude, fight the power!!!
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What kind of crap is that ffs!!! You need to get your priorities straight. There are devs out there right now destroying lives!!! OP keep it up dude, fight the power!!!
A thief doesn't destroy lives, but he's still a criminal.
I don't think that the Funcom guy is lying about anything. They had a great patch that made the difference between a disaster and a success. I witnessed it myself, and noone can change my mind about that. It was the most surprisingly good patch I've ever seen in an MMO. After that, they had a smooth launch. The game was totally playable and enjoyable. Launch is not about end game sieges and loot. Launch is about the first weeks of gameplay. And AoC got that right. They sold in huge numbers, and they got great reviews from media all over the world. That is a good launch. Bad launch was AO. Bad launch was VG. Unplayable games, low sales.
You might be packed in this forum trolling and hating, but it is always like that. Same thing will happen with WAR and AION. People that don't like a game are moving on, people that like it are playing it, bored people come here and start a crusade against a company. Whining is a very exhilarating activity anyway, I do it all the time. But that does not make me lose connection with reality. Sad truth for you Anti-FC crusaders.
When you say majority of Playerbase, do you mean the ones still playing? Or the majority that has quit the game?
Waiting for the next thing
That's coming from a guy totally connected to reality: mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/187806 Your king is pretty much naked... Sad truth for you FC crusader!!!
