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AoC is going down ... Funcom's conspiracy ???
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LOTRo is actually doing all that fantastic. The player base is currently slowly improving. The difference is, the adv campaign for lotro was/is much smaller than WoW/AoC. And while WoW spent 40$ mil just for advertisment before release, turbine hardly payed that much for the whole development.
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Agreed but ur first post is sorta not specific, i can see why it has attracted flammers and fan boys alike, i also would like to i wouldnt be surprised if funcom has deleted account and posted misleading info, i mean everyone new the jig was up like 2 days into launch saying they had no probs and their worlds best customer support would deal with any prob hahaha bs lol i mean seriously , and for those of us that lost of accounts massing gold for our guild that quit we our characters were wiped tat was the last nail in the coffin for me, I mean people can play this game and enjoy this game, it has some fairly innovative stuff but would I ? its a personal decision , maybe a stupid one , but its every bodies choice to make.
Basically U should have been clearer, and yes funcom can be.. "misleading" to say the least
And to OP: I don't need to know everything about these games, that is a mistake many people on these forums make, cause when they read "stuff" they suddenly become experts in the field. I enjoy a game for what it gives me and not how high or low stocks are. Unless one would have stocks of FC it might be intresting to them.
Sandbox games bore me to death, I'll gladly take EQ/WoW over something like UO or AC.
Believe it or not you do not talk for all MMORPG fans.
LOTRo is actually doing all that fantastic. The player base is currently slowly improving. The difference is, the adv campaign for lotro was/is much smaller than WoW/AoC. And while WoW spent 40$ mil just for advertisment before release, turbine hardly payed that much for the whole development.
I was participating in the Codemasters management of LOTRO not Turbines. The game isn't a flop, but its not really all that great. (my opinion). While I did enjoy the books as a kid, the movies as an adult, fantasy MMOs are getting way oversaturated IMO. And its a shame because LOTRO should be a centerpiece for that class of games.
Also Turbine is a publisher not the developer. And LOTRO has more than one publisher. Just an FYI.
Even though I am a current AOC player I agree with your intent and rational behind it. being well informed is a good thing. The problem with these forum is that the most vocal part of the community has become so polarized. If you like something about a game the nay sayers call you a fanboi, if you dislike the game you are a troll and narry the twain shall meet. Thus, nearly every thread breaks down into a flame war.
Visit the WAR forums, it is the same nonesense and the game is still in closed beta. Go back to the beginning of the LOTRO forums. Same thing. The funny thing is the so-called haters and trolls (which there are definately some of) throw out all this consipracy, game is crap, will fail posts and these game will all still be around with their loyal fanbases and make enough money to continue forward.
I consider myself a pretty "cup half full" type of guy and these forums have become so negative I aske myself why I return. I come back to keep up on real items, good or bad, that are brought up, such as was intended in this thread chain. The problem is I start reading the rest of the garbage too.
To be honest. I would prefer a sandbox game over the linear games that make up most of the MMOscape. While the Pre-CU version of SWG was underdeveloped and buggy, the concept is sound. The guy doesn't speak for me, but there are a lot of us MMO fans that are wanting a sandbox game.
There are also MMO fans looking for more SciFi games. Eve Online is nice, I play it, but we need more.
There are millions of MMO players that play classic grindfest games like 2moons/Dekaron put out by GameTribe and Acclaim. While no one game has the millions, over a broad span of games the numbers add up. And this is what a lot of developers see. Lots of people willing to gind away and very simplistic, linear systems with the occational flashy particle effect.
There is plenty of room in the MMOsphere for every kind of gamer. What is a real gamer? Any gamer that has a passion for their game.
Also, I saw some talk about how Dev rarely if ever go to boards and flame other games. Trust me, they do. They also come post in support of their games to counter flamers. You seem to forget, they can log in as anyone they wish. There is no need for them to say 'hi Im a Dev'. You see, devs are normal people like you and me. Its best you remember that. Devs are here, they are reading, they are posting as themselves, not as devs.
LOTRo is actually doing all that fantastic. The player base is currently slowly improving. The difference is, the adv campaign for lotro was/is much smaller than WoW/AoC. And while WoW spent 40$ mil just for advertisment before release, turbine hardly payed that much for the whole development.
I was participating in the Codemasters management of LOTRO not Turbines. The game isn't a flop, but its not really all that great. (my opinion). While I did enjoy the books as a kid, the movies as an adult, fantasy MMOs are getting way oversaturated IMO. And its a shame because LOTRO should be a centerpiece for that class of games.
Also Turbine is a publisher not the developer. And LOTRO has more than one publisher. Just an FYI. Wrong... Turbine is the developer as well as publisher. Codemasters and Midway Games are also co-publishers.
LOTRo is actually doing all that fantastic. The player base is currently slowly improving. The difference is, the adv campaign for lotro was/is much smaller than WoW/AoC. And while WoW spent 40$ mil just for advertisment before release, turbine hardly payed that much for the whole development.
I was participating in the Codemasters management of LOTRO not Turbines. The game isn't a flop, but its not really all that great. (my opinion). While I did enjoy the books as a kid, the movies as an adult, fantasy MMOs are getting way oversaturated IMO. And its a shame because LOTRO should be a centerpiece for that class of games.
Also Turbine is a publisher not the developer. And LOTRO has more than one publisher. Just an FYI. Wrong... Turbine is the developer as well as publisher. Codemasters and Midway Games are also co-publishers.
Fair enough. I stand corrected.
I agree, no issues here. And yes AoC was one of the best launches of a MMO period. It is just missing some end-game content, but the stability has been there.
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Wowriot is not the most credible site you know. They have been posting flames and trolling AoC since before launch. Its just a bunch of bored WoW players that are having fun with provoking the community with lies and exaggerations. Every single line of this trash has inaccuracies, lies and exaggerations.
I wasn't writing about game content ... yet ...!
I'm simply concerned when gamers cannot post criticism on official forums.
Some ppl maight say ok it's bad 4 marketing or like i c it remindes me of some political regime in witch critics are wiped out!
No hard feelings AoC fans i'm not so disappointed with game itself but the way Funcom deals with the problems AND players is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Gaming community must tell clearly to Funcom and all game publishers that this is not the way and we will not tolerate such attitude from publishing corporations! There's a big difference between dealing with public opinion and creating one 4 selling puposes !
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Dude, go to the f'n offical AoC forum NOW, and tell me if you can see and posts about criticsm. According to what you claim they should be deleting all criticism. But still I can see lots of them. And it is working hours in Europe right now.
You are an outright lier, hidden behind the anonymity of the internet. At least the company is a legal entity and you or any of the 700k customers can sue them anytime. But what can we do about ppl like you? You are the problem mate. Not Funcom. You are the scam here.
well i dont think funcom's stocks have anything to do with the crisis at all. i mean their stocks were doing great till they released AOC. this "crisis has been going on alot longer then May of this year so if FC was being affected by the "crisis" then it would have happened way before AOC was released. but you can keep believing that and spewing the "crisis" is the cause for FC stocks downfall all you want but the truth is quite obvious....FC missed the boat by a long shot with this game and they are paying the price...
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Why should you be worried about the company's health? If the company goes down then the game goes down. SOE's take over of SWG should be proof that even a company's take over is something to worry about.
Many of the supporter's posts mention plenty of people are playing and enjoying AoC, but Funcom will not say how the retention is. 700K stat of activated accounts is very deceiving. There is an estimated 50% of accounts that never saw time past the free month. If that doesn't give you pause to think then you have bought a lot of lemons in your time. Even now there a posts on the official AoC forums denigrating this game.
Gaute's latest post glosses over the fact that there are still game breaking flaws in the game. The memory leak is still there. The female DPS issue is being worked on but combos still are not fixed. Sieging is still buggy. End game content is still missing. The crafting system is still a mess.
While this game has (or had) promise, its present state is still too close to a paid beta.
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Funcom will have ZERO chance of getting the game 'approved' by M$ to release on XBOX 360 if they follow the current development/quality approach they have towards AoC.
By not testing the patches properly, they are pouring a mix of water and petrol (gas) onto the fire, i.e. they fix some stuff - but start new blazes elsewhere.
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