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Is warhammer a "sandbox" ?
tornsage
Member Posts: 26
Because if it's Conan "follow the narrow trail" the Barbarian then I'm already done. Also; is the game good for solo play?
Thanks ahead of time.
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It's not a sandbox game by any sense of the word, but it should still be fun.
Its not a true sandbox.. but it certainly is not a single player game!!!
The game is designed for group play.. but you can drop in on public quests as and when and leave also. Ideal for casual soloers . Read up on 'public quests'.
This game has a little bit of everything.
For the PvEer you can Complete quest (duh), but there is also a new type of quest Mythic has introduced called a Public quest. You can find more information on Public quests at the official WAR website and many of the player-run forum sites. There are, of course, dungeons and what not.
For the PvPer (RvR) we'll start at the bottom. You can actually level up by going to an RvR (Realm vs Realm) area to fight people of the opposing realm/faction. There's also something similar to WoW's BG system called senarios. In senarios you have a 15 minute time limit to complete a task given to you. You and a set amount of other players will have to complete the objective to win, but if you fail the other team earns the points. If you want to do something a little more epic than senarios and have a couple hours then get together with a group of people or your guild and siege a keep. If you are successful in taking the keep you can claim it for your guild and it kind of becomes like a guild hall. The bosses of keeps drop the best armor you can find in the tier of gameplay you are in. Once you have taken 2 tier 4 zones you may siege the enemy's main city. This is the pinnacle of RvR and doesn't have that often (1-2 times every 2 months about). Here you have to organize yourself with the rest of the guilds in your faction to rampage through the city and take out the king. Once you beat the king you have successfully sacked their city. A little added bonus is their king is sent to your city and you can throw rotten fruit at him.
And everything you do helps to push your realm forward in destroying the enemy's city. Whether it be PvE or RvR...it helps the war effort. So whether you be casual or hardcore, pvp or pve, a soloer or a grouper...this game has something for you to do.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
I wish. But it still appears to be an amazing MMO. I'm starting to believe, due to WAR, that an MMO doesn't have to be sandbox to be worth the code its written with. I think WAR will be a lot of fun and have some sandbox qualities due to the fact that there is so much to do you will be able to create whatever type of path you want. RvR, PvP, PvE whatever.... it should be good.
Considering how the game is divided up, I don't think you can really call it a sandbox, but that is to say it is not really linear as AoC. They are implementing many features that promote grouping, but don't shove it down your throat and have to group.
Tier 1 for the High Elves is a giant sandbox. They defend the beaches (sand) from the Dark Elf invasion.
Is that what you mean?
Mythic certainly encourages you to explore with hidden quests, lairs, ect., but you can't do quite anything you want, so it certainly won't be a true sandbox - but it won't be an AoC either.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
They have stated there will be easter eggs to find. So exploration is definately in. I've played AoC, so I know what you're talking about as far as linear goes.
A true sandbox to me though is SWG pre-cu.
What do you define Sandbox as? Sandbox, for me, is an open world where you can go or do anything. Kind of live Oblivion, that seems to come to mind. I don't know of any MMO that is "sandbox" except Vanguard and the original EQ, thats about as close as I can see.
He was talking about it being linear, like follow the line, go here and here, no where else.
EQ a sandbox?? wot? EQ is like the archtype of the linear ,quest driven, mmorpg!
Nothing wrong with that, by any means, but Sandbox is Ultima Online, sandbox is EVE, sandbox is old SWG!
Where the world is alive because of the players, where the players are the focus and you can literally do anything you want, from being a humble cobbler to a dragon slayer.
Sandbox is being able to move trough the world from day one, not limited by levels or artificial constraints.
I'm sure there are many more things that belong in it, and WAR is definitly not a sandbox game.
Again, nothing wrong with that, making a sandbox is extremely difficult as you are making a world simulator more than a game, it is not for everyone, requires a lot more time and effort on the players' behalf to pull it off and it can ve highly variable depending if the players actually cooperate in it or not as a sandbox is not as content driven as a linear mmorpg but depends a great deal on the players to provide such content.
I am not sure if WAR will be more or less linear than AoC. WAR has 3 distinct regional areas (a total of 6 starting areas, one per race) that go all the way from level 1 to 40 so at ANY given time you have 3 zones to adventure in. Dunno if AoC pull that off, but that is more or less about the same that WoW does (before BC), so it is at least as varied as WoW in matter of areas and the like
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
To the OP:
No
WAR will make WOW look like sandbox. Enough said.
No, it's pretty far from being a sandbox game. Anything that begins with specific classes automatically fails this test
Thats not true. I would consider Shadowbane a sandbox. It has classes , but there is still an insane amount of different ways to make a character.
Just once I wish you would think before vomitting your half-baked ideas onto the keyboard and clicking the post button.
Just once.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
I think we need a definition for "sandbox" >.<
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
Rofl no. Anything with levels is not sandbox.
The only sandbox game atm is Eve Online but it´s a game that´s definetly not for players with a short attention span. It´s hard to get into.
The only sandbox game close to releasing would be Darkfall Online
Not at all a sandbox.
But I hope its good never the less, and cant wait for it after tons of disappointments such as AoC etc (Dont argue with me about this, im not saying its a bad game... just that to me it was a disappointment)
Not a sandbox.
No, it's not a sandbox game.
Thank god.
Nope, no sandbox. It's designed to be a fast paced, RvR PvP game.
What do you define Sandbox as? Sandbox, for me, is an open world where you can go or do anything. Kind of live Oblivion, that seems to come to mind. I don't know of any MMO that is "sandbox" except Vanguard and the original EQ, thats about as close as I can see.
He was talking about it being linear, like follow the line, go here and here, no where else.
EQ a sandbox?? wot? EQ is like the archtype of the linear ,quest driven, mmorpg!
Nothing wrong with that, by any means, but Sandbox is Ultima Online, sandbox is EVE, sandbox is old SWG!
Where the world is alive because of the players, where the players are the focus and you can literally do anything you want, from being a humble cobbler to a dragon slayer.
Sandbox is being able to move trough the world from day one, not limited by levels or artificial constraints.
I'm sure there are many more things that belong in it, and WAR is definitly not a sandbox game.
Again, nothing wrong with that, making a sandbox is extremely difficult as you are making a world simulator more than a game, it is not for everyone, requires a lot more time and effort on the players' behalf to pull it off and it can ve highly variable depending if the players actually cooperate in it or not as a sandbox is not as content driven as a linear mmorpg but depends a great deal on the players to provide such content.
I am not sure if WAR will be more or less linear than AoC. WAR has 3 distinct regional areas (a total of 6 starting areas, one per race) that go all the way from level 1 to 40 so at ANY given time you have 3 zones to adventure in. Dunno if AoC pull that off, but that is more or less about the same that WoW does (before BC), so it is at least as varied as WoW in matter of areas and the like
Sandbox is also Saga of Ryzom...which is due to be making a comeback in the near future I hear. I'll be checking that out too. New owners evidently.
Sandbox is generally (the way I understand it) not level based, its more about giving you freedom to advance in any or all directions skillwise..if you so choose. It also doesn't limit you to walking on certain designated paths...ie steering you towards predetermined game goals. You are pretty much free to do whatever is available. Saga of Ryzom has a "Ring" where players can construct their own scenarios for other players to play.
I think Warhammer from what I have seen of the podcasts and other info from fansites and the like ..looks to be a fun immersive game overall.
Cend
What do you define Sandbox as? Sandbox, for me, is an open world where you can go or do anything. Kind of live Oblivion, that seems to come to mind. I don't know of any MMO that is "sandbox" except Vanguard and the original EQ, thats about as close as I can see.
He was talking about it being linear, like follow the line, go here and here, no where else.
I think he means by sandbox, something a very intelligent person, such as himself, plays as opposed to linear games which appeal to most people because they are sheep/idiots.